I Got GM on EVERY ROLE.....Here's What I Learned

[@coach_mills]

Private Coaching! Get GM FAST www.patreon.com/Coach_Mills?Link&

[@peterhill519]

Hey Mills! Considering doing your 'Instant Rank Up' Patreon, and I'm wondering about the 'Constant stream of monthly VOD REVIEWS': does that mean I can submit a limited number of my own to you, as well as see VODS supplied by other Patrons? Thanks from a fan.

[@KogaHarine]

2:10 The NEVER giving up bit is really important. The match is never over til victory or defeat appears on screen. I cannot tell you how many times I have stalled 3rd point on most maps as Ball by just being aggressive and staying on the cart to prevent the final push, only to see one of my dps or supports just standing in spawn... Feels so bad sometimes...

[@Shikaitsu]

😢

[@metaslave5566]

General tip #2: if you have a job, good luck 🤣

[@linxismenow5804]

I work 3 jobs :( and i am only dimond and it took 3 aeaso seasons

[@GiggaGMikeE]

I work from home as a sysadmin. If I'm not on a call your ticket is being handled during comp matches.

[@raiderjedi4160]

Has nothing to do with having a job, there’s 24 hours in a day..

[@metaslave5566]

@@raiderjedi4160 bruh, general tip was best time to play was 10-5, if you work during that time you're not playing with optimal as possible people, so i simply made the joke. The fact that you couldn't correlate the joke as a play on the tip astounds me.

[@raiderjedi4160]

@@metaslave5566 like I said 24 hours in a day, not everyone is working during that time

[@TheBrandonCraig]

I'm a 32 year old, 9-5 career, M2 support player who pays 45m a day. I appreciate this and hope it pushes me to GM.

[@Jonap2001]

Masters with only 45 minutes a day is so impressive

[@TheBrandonCraig]

@@Jonap2001 thank you. I’ve been playing since the game came out, so 6 years or so. Consistency is key. It adds up to more than you think :)

[@noahmcnamara6005]

If you're paying that much a day Blizzard should just give you rank#1 at this point.

[@ayembic7933]

@@noahmcnamara6005 wait until you hear abt the OWL pros who are on salary to grind it 12 hours a day the past 7 years

[@Tenebris8444]

no joke this is inspiring. ty so much.

[@josesalvador9118]

The problem with low ranks is that once you understand comps and picks and the hole "paper scissors rocks" of overwatch you gonna only get more and more sour about your team mistakes

[@michaelmorales3172]

Feels bad when my DPS doesn’t go sombra to help deal with doom and hamter

[@BaxxyNut]

@@michaelmorales3172 don't need sombra for doom. He's so easy to deal with

[@wikihowsamples2972]

@@michaelmorales3172 he literally says in the video to focus on carrying on your best character rather than counters. Would you rather have your genji main on genji or learning sombra for the first time?

[@jello6845]

@@BaxxyNut I wouldn't call ball easy to deal with, by that logic every tank is easy to deal with. Rein is so easy to deal with, sigma is so easy to deal with

[@luisxaviersanchez8799]

@@wikihowsamples2972 he also talk about balance, let’s say they have a symmetra and that main genji won’t swap because he can’t play a different hero

[@Insidious-l8z]

The issue with support is that if your team constantly makes bad mistakes and your supports constantly have to bail you out its hard to make good plays cause they have exhausted all their resources bailing people out of trouble. For example, a rein decides to charge into a 1v5 and is now about to die. Your kiriko and you know that if your teams tank dies and the enemy tank is still alive chances are your gonna lose. So you tp over to try and save him now you dont have suzu or an escape method. Now the situation is either your tank surived but your dead.

[@tedreyer1561]

....or?

[@KB-ql5il]

@@tedreyer1561 or tank survives but you now don’t have any util to win a team fight

[@everilliem3292]

I get it, it's a hypothetical, but you DON'T TP! Simple. IF your tank it taking a 1v5-2v5 or whatever, you let them die, it's the only way they will learn. Only time I ever do an agreessive TP is with a Dive, mainly monkey, as I know I have space to work with. Other than that TP is 100% a defensive bail out ability.

[@astroavation]

just prioritize tank cuz if they die it’s over

[@sirfailalotful]

This is why support is the hardest role to carry on. If your tank doesn’t know what the fuck he’s doing, you just lose. You cannot win without a competent tank.

[@Kamorzy]

Pretty solid takes. I don't play a lot of tank, but I do dps and support. The way I see it is that dps has really high carry potential, but they have no tools to help fix a faulty team. Getting elims is the highest impact things you can get in the game, but it won't matter if your tank is feeding or your supports aren't healing - your team will be dead by time you find any opening. Their independence makes it fun, but also frustrating when your team has issues and its just not in the scope of your role to do anything about it. Meanwhile, support has a lot of tools to fill whatever the team needs, both offensively and defensively. Healing for sustain, utility for transforming plays, and damage for their own independent value. However, their kits aren't optimized to shine in any one area on an individual level, healing is too easy for skill to show through, utility requires the team to follow up, and their damage is lower than tanks and dps. So it takes a lot more gamesense and skill to force things to work if your team is lacking - but it can be done.

[@ripstah1908]

I actually played a match with you the other day on Esperanza push during your GM grind; you were Zarya and still Masters at the time, it was cool being in vc with someone I watch on youtube all the time.

[@ghostirq]

Idk man I feel like I got the least impact on support. You can heal and save all you want, but if your tank and DPS are potatoes there is nothing you can do to change that.There is too many games where I feel like I have to do the healing and the killing on top of just surviving because my teammates can’t kill shit. In a close matched skill game yes I can see the impact and difference a support can do, but at least half my games are not evenly balanced

[@lividshay8530]

Felt

[@ghostirq]

@@lividshay8530 if you gonna be grammar police on YT comments at least be right. It’s not past tense because it’s not in the past and my point of view didn’t change

[@greenecarlos93]

Just hit Diamond 5 and it was rough try a 3 stack with people close to your rank it really helps a lot and make sure one is a tank and one is a dps

[@Ravitas3]

If you think you are capable, I suggest you to play Baptiste. Your performance with Baptiste will depend on how well you are able to handle the information and also on your aim. What you have to do with Baptiste is very simple. You have to try to take down the enemies while keeping an eye on your allies. And trust me, you have the firepower to take them down

[@ghostirq]

@@Ravitas3 yeah that doesn’t work when you’re getting rolled. I can count on one hand how many even games I get a week. The rest is either rolling or getting rolled

[@Mink0550]

The DPS counter swapping point I think is a bit of a miss imo. Learning 2-5 heroes should be the main goal for a dps player so you can counter swap when there's a point if little to no value you're getting. Hitscan are just simply really strong so you should be able to play cree and soldier without an issue. Picking up Tracer / Genji, Widow, Sym, Mei and Reaper are also characters you should be able to play at a decent level if the position calls for it. Staying Ashe vs Widow is simply a throw if the Widow can hit shots. Don't play Ashe, or you have to play in a passive position which doesn't even contest her, and you can only minimally fight back. Don't play Widow if Tracer, sombra, ball, mark you and try to always fight you. You lose value by not being a threat.

[@dtabor85]

This. Tank swapping can change the match immediately too. If you have a Dva tearing you up as hog, not going zarya is basically choosing the hardest road possible and there really is no good reason to handicap yourself. As a dps if ur backline is getting wrecked by a Dva and you stubbornly cling to say junkrat instead of going sym or mei is similar. I would say if you have no swap ability and you want to take his advice youd want to play a generalist only. Probably sigma, soldier, mercy. As they dont really have true counters. But if you just decide to one trick junkrat to climb ur truly screwing yourself out of matches where a simple swap would have been a win.

[@feedingfrenzy4961]

Yeah I found that section a little contradictory since he still mentioned learning a couple DPS that are good in different situations. I think the point he was trying to make is don't just pick whatever the biggest counter to the enemy is if you don't know how to play them really well. You want to pick something you're good enough at that the enemy team feels pressure to counter you as well.

[@mateuszzielinski2166]

Picking 3 characters that cover each others weaknesses is ideal but by no means should you do this if you arent playing 24 hours a day. You will get much more value from picking what you are super confortable with opposed to flexing half the roster. I dont play hitscan on my main at all and i still climb just fine

[@Mink0550]

​@@mateuszzielinski2166 Well you don't need to play 24 hours a day but actually looking into characters even if they aren't your main, should have you understand the playstyle so you're not actually throwing. Of course you don't need to be able to play every role, some people can just 1 trick and do fine but being able to be flexible will certainly help you in the long run.

[@mateuszzielinski2166]

@@Mink0550 i dont agree, being sort of good at half the roster is no where near as good as mastering 3 characters that cover each others weaknesses. Yes the game is about counter picks, but there are always multiple options that can work equally well

[@clarity6155]

i agree heavily with playing in the am/afternoon and not night. it tends to be less toxic, less kids, and overall better teammates than at night when people are toxic and don’t play as well

[@datwolfe3512]

summary for tank, Find the balance between diving and protecting your team. You decide when to fight and when to backout, learn when is best to engage and which fights are "winable" Change your playstyle when necesarry based on your teammates and even which character you are playing if you can't see a playstyle working with your current character.

[@dkking787]

As a support main there is nothing you can do when your entire teams splits up and your tank dives into a 1v5 with only 20% hp meanwhile you dps are completely split up dying one by one asking for healing since there’s no front line support is jus left with every man for themselves type of thing in which you get blamed because the stats show your not healing enough ….

[@Nathan-ux1bb]

oddly specific...

[@alexmaganda5827]

@@Nathan-ux1bb this is so common sadly

[@KogaHarine]

I've started hopping in chat and telling people I can't heal them through walls when they start complaining.

[@CloudChaser_]

Its not impposible as a gm player a good strat is to try trade the enemey tank (not yourself duh😂) try getting the attention of the enemey supports to stop them healing the enemy tank even if you die its then just becomes down to the skill of the dps 3v4 with no tanks is wayyyy more winnable then a 4 v5 with your tank dead its always winnable supports always complain and say we dont have any sway over the game dont give up ! If anything the game is mostly in our hands !overwatch is a game of mistakes like chess its about recourses and recourse mangment whoevther makes more mistakes will lose

[@dkking787]

@@CloudChaser_ you playing pc or console because on console it’s like a Russian roulette cluster fuck your gambling everytime you start the que

[@the_hiroman]

Playing times is a good tip. Mornings also are when uncooperative kids are (or should be) in school. It also worked for me during very late night (midnight or later).

[@K3end0]

Mornings are pretty much the best time in general if you can play at they time, even in quickplay. I figured it was no kids and no exhausted day workers. In the morning I can say hello and the whole team responds, in the evening I get 1 hello or a "shut up" 🥴

[@emanchi8403]

This is the first time I've heard someone say use transcendence to save yourself. This is often criticized and viewed as selfish but honestly I can see more value in staying alive than dying and coming back to a losing team fight.

[@nufrontierII]

Man, every time you drop a video it's always something I agree with! Thanks again Mills for the analysis on my Junkrat and hope you continue to pop off homie! You truly deserve the best! When I hit master I'll hit you up for a duo teacher mode haha.

[@jackosullivan8539]

It is ridiculously hard to play support sometimes, tanks that practically kill themselves and dps that can’t or won’t help you when dived on

[@cuppy1199]

its also ridiculously hard to play every other role, more so than support by far

[@bigsmall2842]

Top tier supports have the most carrying potential in solo queue.

[@MadaraUchiha-.._]

@@bigsmall2842no… supports cant carry themselves, they allow the potential for your teammates to carry. well, unless theyre dpsing.

[@cuppy1199]

Support is the easiest role by far, its also the role with the most impact, and most supports have one or two get out of jail free cards. Support ults have the biggest chance to swing fights in most cases and they decide if you win or lose as tank. Its rather easy to carry as support in my experience, coming from one tricking ball to gm, now im playing ana, the difference in skill required is insane, i just sit there and anti the enemy team and they kinda just collapse@@tubisi

[@DustyDustington89]

This lol. Idk why it is so hard for people at low rank to simply get behind cover. Occasionally you have to stop shooting reposition and not expect to stand in the opening shooting at the enemy team hoping your supports can out heal the damage

[@TheAlchemistAero]

Now I’m not Gm, I’m a diamond support player but I really feel like tank had the most impact, if everyone is playing a perfectly maybe support had the highest impact but if there’s a tank diff the game is almost unwinable or super easy, this isn’t the case with either other role

[@Alex_Aramayo]

FACTS

[@adeeshadeegala5900]

Mainly when the tank doesn't know how to hold their ground. The ones that just hold s the entire time on defence.

[@Fleebuss]

i don’t get it if the other 2 dps are better the game is over i lose all my games once i see my dps has died 4 times in 2 min.

[@TheAlchemistAero]

@@Fleebuss statistically your dps are just as shitty ad the enemy dps

[@KlebinDaBoca]

​@@Fleebuss most of the time if the tank is doing their job correctly it's a won game unless both supports hard throw and completely ignore the game and stay afk on spawn or insta feed. What most of the people call "DPS gap" on their game most of the time is DPS players having to make plays without space being gained by their tank. Hence, they have a high chance of dying due to playing on no man's land or actually on enemy space. DPS won't ever do shit if they don't have space and tank can't be cowards if they wanna win games.

[@xanana3217]

You’re right about the never give up thing. I was playing comp dps ( I’m plat ) and we were getting rolled by the enemy widow. All I had to do was switch to genji and we won. Great tip! 😃

[@realglutenfree]

Also, often you win just because the enemy team gets so cocky, that they literally stand on your spawn. At this point you can easily turn the fight and capture the point.

[@tyrant8541]

Couldn't agree more on being alive as a support provide so much value

[@Jyeoi]

I think the best tip to climb, is to find teammates who u can rely on.

[@sudoo6987]

8:48 this line is too real I've died alot of times trying to save my big boi

[@astroavation]

my teammates don’t follow me as tank, if i’m pushing they sit back and if im falling back they start playing aggro and push up

[@SnakeSkinz]

That thumbnail got me, ngl haha. I solo queue as a support player with a 9-5 and it's tough lol. Masters 4, so not terrible but I want to climb to GM. But I was so confused by the thumbnail until I watched the video and heard the the opposite haha. Glad to know it's the hardest role, cause it feels like it for sure

[@juliansinghbassi5320]

The hardest role is actually dps, if your tanks are ok, and your supports do well, the diff comes from the dps

[@Alex_Aramayo]

@juliansinghbassi5320 dps is the easiest Tanks & Support have multi faceted jobs while dps don't

[@SnakeSkinz]

@@juliansinghbassi5320 No, DPS is the easiest role. You have nothing to worry about except for your own aim and CD management. There is nothing else required of you and you don't have to think too hard. Support is easily the hardest role. DPS you can just carry by being better, but Support it doesn't even matter if you are better. If it's a DPS diff it's GG. Getting diffed doesn't make the role hard lmao. It's the overall impact in how you determine the game. Support can have high impact plays that DPS never capitalize on and then your actual impact becomes minimal. You have to control your tank's actions, watch out for flanks, try not to get LoS'd, deal damage, keep the team alive, and decide when fights are won or lost on Support. It's not even close

[@kingks1325]

@@SnakeSkinz support is definitely easier than dps you’re probably playing the wrong hero if you’re finding it difficult to rank up. Top 500 on multiple accounts just playing zen, and, bap, and sprinkle in Kiriko occasionally masters+. It’s the easiest role because you can enforce a supp gap a lot easier carrying on support. A 32 37 3 Kiriko with 10k dmg and 18k healing is more valuable and going to win much more games at a higher rate and climb faster due to performance base sr gain than a 1 20 8 1k dmg 29k healing Kiriko. The biggest issue with a lot of support players is the mindset you should still heal your team but if you constantly think I can’t heal my team fast enough or these matches are hard or not going in my favor on support…. It’s because you’re not adding enough value other than healing. On an ana anti more and shoot the enemy team more to apply pressure, zen constantly pumping damage you don’t do enough healing to not be contending with your dps damage to wise, bap apply shield pressure while healing since you need to be shooting in between heals anyway. Doing these things and changing your mindset of support so long as you have the mechanics and game sense you’ll realize support is much easier than dps. Support is literally dps with heal passive the ability to heal your team, once you grasp that you’ll notice high win rates in support with ease notice how the enemy team then focus their weak points. No Kiriko go ana if they never pick up one and you execute well it’s a free game. No ana or a passive one go zen and abuse their tank and the team by result. So much at your disposal on support as opposed to dps where you’re at the mercy of your tank’s rhythm and supports play style. If you’re tank is too passive only a matter of time before you get punished for trying to make up for it on dps due to then focusing you for “feeding”. If you’re on support you can apply that pressure and still live, and force your tank to play differently. Once you’ve played at higher levels you’ll see how much easier support is than dps, I’d say hardest to easiest is definitely dps,tank, and then support last. Dps is the only role where if you do your role flawlessly you still can be sub 60% win rate due to uncontrolled variables. Edit: I am gm1 on all roles for context, just providing my insight as a top 500 support player comfortably always get to gm1 the quickest on support on any account I’ve gone d1 to m3 from 5-1 before. The same in the old ranking system ranked up going 7-12 on support playing with friends few can say the same on dps. By nature of the ranking system dps is the hardest to rank up solely off of population density and competition it’s why your records need to be so good as well as performance, going anything less than 5-3 at d3+ basically nets no rank up. I’ve gone up 2 ranks at once in master at 5-4 on support.

[@SnakeSkinz]

@@kingks1325 Performance based sr doesn't exist outside of the metal ranks. You mentioning this automatically makes me question your claims of being Top 500. No, I don't need to change my mindset because apparently you can't read. I deal damage just as much as I heal as a Bap main. My whole response literally mentions all the things a support has to do outside of healing. You are absolutely wrong in DPS being the hardest role. I don't know where you got the idea of climbing with a lower win rate for the support role, but I've gone 5 - 2 and haven't even moved up before. There are just as many players in the support role as there are as DPS. Despite the changes, Tank is still the least popular role. What's funny to me is you openly admit that supports (particularly your flex supports) are pseudo dps with heals. That literally just means you have more responsibilities. As you said, you have to worry about making impact with your utility. Meanwhile DPS is pew pew, cooldowns and that's it. Nothing more. Stat lines also mean nothing in OW. A Moira can go 32 and 3 cause she can get elims by touching someone with grasp one time without actually killing them and them just not dying by having some escapability. Doesn't mean they're truly doing anything impactful though. You can play a perfect game as a support and still lose, but if you play perfect on DPS it's borderline impossible that you lose the game unless your tank is feeding the entire game; which regardless of whether you are a dps or support that will affect you. I've climbed much faster on dps than I ever have on support just by doing mind numbing work. Especially with the recent Cree buff, being able to take out a Pharmacy by myself and duel Ashe/Widow a bit better makes all the difference. All I have to do is just rely on my raw mechanical aim and I'm golden. Support is so much more involved. I'm not just spewing bias, I'm regurgitating what most of your Top 500 players who stream or make content say. I mean even look at the SVB podcast. You have plenty of people who appear and play different roles and mention how more difficult it is to play support. Because it's a much more dynamic role. The only mindless support hero is Zen since he's literally a DPS being a glass canon. Just keep discord on the tank and then focus on mechanical skill like any other DPS.

[@thegamingillustrator]

my kiriko main made it into silver in my placements today. this, and over 50 tutorials helped a ton.

[@bryanbkool1341]

I started watching ur videos when Overwatch 2 came out and back in overwatch 1 I was harstuck Gold and would rarely reach Platinum, but now I have just finished reaching Master and pushing to GM, thank you for the helpful videos

[@yoman738]

nice video buddy, I don't subscribe to many, and you are now one of the few.

[@typicaltilly2535]

The biggest issue I have trying to break out of silver and bronze is 5 people join with their own agenda and nobody is in voice or using ping commands to try to do anything together.

[@carlphilipperning3986]

In silver and bronze you just have to get better. They have an agenda but you do as well. No one who can get a higher rank gets stuck there. If i were go vod review i think i could find a ton of mistakes on your part

[@kalismols606]

Solo q support is hell they literally walk into you backline to end you

[@_neddy_teddy_8048]

dps has been rough i just started playing after taking a long long break from overwatch in general ive had a positive win loss and after 10 wins my bronze 2 rank hasnt moved

[@Leppits]

14:41 when I am DPS I always try to prioritize. You should have a character to go to for any situation like needing a hitscan, diver, ect. Then you look at the enemies and find out which threat is the one you can deal with that nets you the most impact. If you can completely shut down the terror mercy pocketed phara with your widow then that's what to do. Sure you wont be able to deal with the winston much but if you swap to Reaper in that scenario you and your entire team will get destroyed by pharmercy.

[@thesoulofagame]

7:23 “don’t be overly agressive so that your team doesn’t have ti waste cooldowns to bail you out” Meanwhile in the video, Mills going too deep and just barely surviving the disengagement hahah

[@avuury]

haha

[@salt5999]

I figure that clip was included to show as an example of maybe what not to do ideally.

[@cheesy_potato9243]

Omg finally someone acknowledges support being so hard and we get blamed for everything too

[@Windbend3r]

What? Supports don’t get flamed tank is the most flamed role then dps. You have to be sucking hard for your team to flame a support

[@ethereal-2jz]

@@Windbend3r at low elo supports definitely get flamed the most because universally players are worse at positioning resulting in healers not getting to them in time. a lot of low elo players also don’t understand the role specific supports are supposed to play. for example in low elo a mercy that had a 90/10 heal/ dmg boost ratio with 10k healing most likely would be appreciated more than a mercy that had a 50 / 50 heal /dmg boost ratio and 7k healing. i feel like in high elo people respectively have a more firm grasp on the game and have a *better* idea at who was underperforming (even though the chat still generally turns into a cesspool of blaming).

[@tyrenace6597]

@@ethereal-2jz Really? All I see is supports flaming everyone else lmao. The moment someone starts chatting it was always a support in most of my games.

[@cheesy_potato9243]

@@Windbend3r I literally get the most healing in the lobby and get yelled at for not getting kills, next round I get kills and I get yelled at for no heals I try to do both and I’m not getting the dps kills? Idk what was wrong with those guys but there’s always something

[@armando5994]

@@Windbend3rthe term “tank diff” is so common that i seen someone have it as their username once

[@ZeroKami86]

Playing losing matches out with full effort can also teach you the most.

[@OfficialDeathScythe]

The only thing I hate about support as a support main is that balancing heals, damage, and ult 100% perfectly is half of the game. If you're entire team at that point shoots randomly and dies then there's no chance

[@kitnoCC]

Really good tips, Mills! Thx

[@mateuszzielinski2166]

In regards to being overly flexible, try to pick 1-3 heroes for each role and focus on getting really good at them. Sure a different pick might be more suitable in that matchup, but it doesnt matter if you arent comfortable playing that hero or dont jive with their playstyle. Also, yes, please focus on one role at a time it will be way easier and less frustrating. This is probably the best tip in the video. For example: for tank i do ram, queen, road. For dps i do genji, pharah, hanzo. For support i do kiriko, zen, bap.

[@BabyMandingo]

This is interesting because for me as a support main my dps is ALWAYS easier to climb, then support, then tank. Granted I’m only diamond and masters

[@Alex_Aramayo]

Same as a Support main it's so easy to climb as dps & Tank prob even more unless ur dps are just getting diffed hard

[@olivia1911]

I feel like you can get stuck in the trenches of Elo hell significantly easier as a support, like you can only do so much when your team is being stupid and playing horrible, you can't really pop off too much on your own.

[@dressednplaid4875]

The lack of impact dmg has directly relates to how powerful tanks are. A lot of strats get thrown out the window in favor of "dump everything into the tank" on quickplay. What's really good at mitigating damage? Tanks! Then you consider that lot's of tanks and supports are capable of dishing out their own respectable dps and dmg dosn't really look so great on the stat screen lots of the time.

[@beigegaming9905]

Here’s a good rule of thumb when it comes to swapping. Do you have ult? If so. Don’t swap. Close to it? Don’t swap. If it takes you 3 or more lives/ fights to build ult, you should probably be switching something. The times where these things don’t apply is when you’re winning. Don’t switch up what isn’t broken unless it’s OT and you’re going for a surprise cheese strat. Also, you don’t have to counter the person doing the most for the enemy team. Sometimes, killing the Lucio boosting them in/ away can be the difference when a rein is running you down.

[@coachtheory]

Great video keep it up! I just got gm in all roles for the first time this season and it was a fun process

[@ncascini01]

I was a cool approach to a video. I really liked it.

[@thegreatgamingkid8252]

1:33 Sent Orisa to the “shadow realm”

[@luanamadeira4952]

this is gold!!! thank you

[@bryonycooper6751]

I love this video but most of my matches are being rolled cause tank gets 2/3 kills the whole match and as support I cannot make up for such a huge difference

[@gabrielspencer3621]

I randomly found myself from a diamond 4 to a gm 5 in like one day and now trying to learn how to survive in gm

[@sunvesu]

thanks dude ur the best coach ever

[@bluepurple1315]

Okay I will say as a GM3 mercy main who climbed from plat 3 (i played ow1 but im translating for new people) I feel the struggle of climbing. im not trying to disregard mills but it is VERY VERY hard to climb as supports because of the reliance on your team. people who say “it isnt your teams fault you cant climb” isnt always true in the lower ranks. people split up, overextend (especially tanks), and overall there are a lot of games you cant carry. my only tip is try to find a tank main or a good dps to duo with and you’ll climb, i promise (keep in mind i didnt say all games, we all make mistakes. so its not ALWAYS your teams fault, try to recognize times you made mistakes too!!)

[@alondraghoul5449]

Do you 5 stack? I solo cue and my team is always so fucking bad

[@lma0henry]

Imo as a none gm support main, the hardest thing about dps is your aim and I have no aim therefor dps is super hard xD

[@szmulexakalemon352]

13:36 goddamnit i feel personally attacked here XDD

[@scrubzero1735]

Tank = Easy Support = just swap to what the team needs Dps = just uninstall

[@papapillcosby]

“Less people who are drunk” I can’t lie playing overwatch while drinking is pretty damn fun 😂

[@lukeGGlee]

I find support to be the hardest role to climb on . Other roles have more affect on the match tank and dps have that raw damage that support doesnt really have

[@AdoptieCenter]

a good support has rly rly high dmg. most ppl think that support is only heal heal heal but if you want to climb on support you need to make plays and do rly high amounts of dmg

[@Ghost-gf4yd]

@@AdoptieCentertrue, i climbed from plat2 to master 4 in a week by being a dps juno

[@rage_tv4493]

I have an ultra aggro play style. Dive in get a pick or a good get in get out Disruptor with pretty much every role. I made it to diamond playing dps lucio ,for the most part. I’d say it definitely was easy but support is an adaptable role. I obviously don’t have to engage a lot if I don’t need to u can still bring value to my team by healing. But heal botting doesn’t win games getting picks does and playing objective. If you aren’t dealing dmg or getting picks support is the hardest role but if u are taking matter into your own hands support is a medium. For tank it depends on which type of tank you play if you play dive tanks like Doom and Dva it’s without a doubt the easiest role. Dive tanks are literally just better DPS characters so if you’re diving those supports games will win themselves. ZBRA is top 10 for a reason characters like rein and ram can’t snowball games if their supports are always dying. So I’d say dive tank easy. DPS is the hardest role. Not even a debate. Even if you play the easiest DPS characters like mei, torb, sym you can still struggle to win. The damage class has pretty much devolved to one shot everything or supports with just reverse all your progress. Hit scan meta is boring bcz getting one shot isn’t fun to fight against but at the same time if you nerf hitscans the game will just revolve around tanks and support even more. It’ll just feel like goats all over again bcz you have to play the tanky utility DPS characters

[@jacoberb4459]

I main support and i'm currently m3 and I'll just be honest and say that basically every game I lose, it's either a tank diff or dps diff. I definitely could be better and most definitely make mistakes but I usually get put with the diamond 4 tank or I'm going against the players that don't miss and my dps get hard diffed

[@akshayy_xd]

Support is by far the most chill

[@m7b774]

I am diamond Lucio main, and I want to talk about this thing u mansion in 18:45 as a Lucio a can’t out heal the damage that our tank take from hard pushing right, so what I do is go in risking my life and most of the time I die cuz of that to give him speed to retrieve and doing my job as Lucio, but instead he push harder and he is low. Like what I supposed to do, and what triggers me he types Lucio change u need more heal or sup diff

[@stefanemanuel5606]

love that in a community like ows 'dont give up' is an actual tip

[@mete2519]

that dps call that your high impact if your tank is good is like the worst way to put it you are low impact but can do a lot under a tank thats good(his well playing is more important hence his impact is higher)

[@asjeje]

I just hope people actually use team work instead of needing to carry. Crazy how many games with ppl with no mic

[@sergeyson423]

As a Winston main: Duck you all reaper swappers

[@sirnetflix7162]

“Don’t give up.” This is so important and it bothers me when certain streamers say, “Go next this game is lost”. What a defeatist mentality. Keep trying. It shows an immense sense of entitlement from these people.

[@deqod4949]

Truth is I'm just trying to get better as I don't feel I deserve my rank and if they do a reset want to be able to stay in masters rather than go back down again

[@christianemerson4622]

In order from easiest to hardest to actually get good at, the order is Support, Tank, and then DPS based on my experience

[@dq9405]

Ngl, after being a brain dead COD/destiny player at just being efficient at killing, overwatch is a totally different beast for me. Killing solo isn't as easy and teamwork is literally everything. That's something that I'm not use to because everyone kinda just takes care of their own in COD. But here, it's a lot harder and more braincells are required. And I genuinely give a lot of appreciate for players who do great and do a lot of great decision making on the fly.

[@murdermelon6103]

Literally !! DPS is so hard to rankup in. I’m constantly getting highest damage and kills in the game and wining more than loosing but I go down ranks still !

[@deadjrnnl]

Try playing with a team

[@toxic9874]

2:50 dont lose yourself even when you losing the game

[@timothychinye6008]

I'm a support main, started the game two months ago. Went from Bronze 5 to Gold 5 - start of this season. I've only played one full month. Here's my secret from ranking so fast (with no prior experience - I don't even play FPS games) 1. I'm a fast learner, so I might just be a cheat code - just being honest. 2. I play all support hereos with the exception of Life weaver because I hate him, his playstyle is quite boring, he's too different, and his skill ceiling is too high. 3. Because I play all support heroes, I pick the perfect hero to play well with my team and counter the enemy team at the same time. 4. I actually listen to overwatch tip videos, I've watched maybe... 10 in total, of all kinds of Overwatch tip advice videos. And from that I understand counter picks, specific character tips and tricks, different types of line ups (puck, brawl, and dive). This is the big one: 5. I teach my teammates how to play the game and/or their character, nid-game. Whilst not being toxic about it. I will literally quickly type in chat to tell people to use the walls as cover and not take so much damage, or if they tap a moira primary fire thing they'll get their heal sprays faster. This is the main thing that has made me rank up so fast. I do not complain, I just give advice on how we can win, and give a brief explanation on why it works... all during the game.

[@rocknu55]

LOL in what world is 10am-5pm morning hours?

[@wiciu8383]

13:35 yeah just let me kill that pharah mercy combo with my reaper cuz i need to get better on reaper

[@Khemith_Demon_Hours]

Support is the most mind numbing role in any game. Sitting back and watching health bars go and down.

[@ameliajane1999]

I’ve been playing the game for some time now and I just can’t get out of bronze 😢 the highest rank I’ve gotten is silver and it feels so bad because I know I can do better I just don’t know how to do it better

[@rebornjoker359]

Who do you play? I spent a long time in silver, but finally made it to gold/plat

[@ameliajane1999]

@@rebornjoker359 tbh I really don’t have a main character but I took the videos advice and played solider and I’ve gotten a lot of wins! Ranked from bronze 5 to 3 just today!! ☺️

[@praetorianplays]

I love these vids, i just have issues when I try doing the right thing and no one follows. Then everyone is typing "tank diff" (for an example). no one follows or groups

[@1ntothefray583]

I was a high plat low diamond player all through OW 1. This season alone I have made it up to GM 4 on DPS and SUPPORT. Tank is in diamond 3. There is hope :)))

[@Tantemify]

u are too good at this game. well done

[@Louis-kr6of]

Why not Baptiste instead of Zen ? It counters more often dives and deals so much damages / heals

[@Aiycey]

Hey! I haven't finished the vid yet, so sorry if he already said this but its 100% Zen's discord orb + ult. The 25% dmg debuff is brutal, especially on tanks. It basically melts them. His snap kick with a good zen can deal with a diver and his trans is a great ult that can save you or ur team. :^)

[@vanessaoftheundead2613]

I’m a mid masters dps. I recently picked up kiriko but goddam playing support just feels like I’m healing people that have no idea how to play lol

[@TiagoMorbusSa]

No shade on any GM support because they can own the crap out of me, but I'd rather be Diamond DPS and have fun than be Diamond Support and have to endure the endless barrage of inting and feeding and trickling from my team mates. At least as DPS when my team mates feed one by one I just stand back and get picks.

[@Bluerock121]

The most annoying thing about support is that you are the instant target for basically every ult in the game. Like you will get hunted down by rip tires and blades etc and are a much bigger priority than the other roles in that regard

[@rebornjoker359]

Find better positioning and ult tracking

[@Bluerock121]

@@rebornjoker359 what a dumbass lmao. There is no positioning in the world to avoid ults. They’re a part of the game and you will get hit with them no matter how well you play. You can minimize it but acting like you can completely avoid it is absolutely braindead

[@olivia1911]

@@rebornjoker359 it's not usually that simple, especially if your dps are horrible at helping you

[@f1reflam3]

Sadly it's not a problem with the game. If you as a support are very good at your job, keeping your team alive, then it's the enemy dps' job to kill you

[@chrustopherhenderson4988]

Yeah you’re but that comment is still right. It’s annoying and it is hard to deal with but u have to find a way cuz they’re always gonna attack you

[@Heavyarms0]

Would like to resume everything in one work... resillience is the key... seems something many players lack when it comes to winning/losing...

[@callumfrew285]

that reaper gameplay was smexy

[@codecraftercc]

If u play rein for example and their doom pushes in u should NEVER go back and try to help the backline. Try to block the backup and keep the space.

[@neilmallick20]

Real shit dude. The tank that turns their back first loses, cause their dps and supports are shooting into ur team while you are giving up lots of space to go peel with ur useless damage output. Sometimes tank trading and peeling works but if they're balls deep in your backline then you have to zone their backline or else you lose.

[@raunox5938]

bro said never give up yet i’ve been plat since 2016

[@Revenkin]

Fascinating.... So why does the gameplay look like gold?

[@ryls.]

Am I crazy. or I heard Gwyn, Lord Of Cinder LoFi version? I don't even know if one's extists.

[@mattyice165]

His support mains are Ana, Best Overall Support (Kiriko), and a DPS character in the wrong category.

[@Yesterday__]

Morning games are the worst for me. I tested this for about a month, usually around 4pm to 10pm were the best times for me.

[@TiMonsor]

Weird thing about ur first point. Bliz pushes us to flex. Play the flex, get the points, get faster ques. BUT the game punishes you for it. In OWL players have their fixed role and swapping roles is so rare its always talked about. I played flex so much I DONT KNOW ANYMORE WHO I AM. I got plat finally on all 4 ques. But i want to get higher, i want to focus, but i dont even know what role i have more chances on. I get bored of one and swap. And I play too many heroes. Onetricks have an upper hand cause they know the game from the perspective of their pick. I can name phara and ana as my mains, but phara is hard countered a lot and ana... i learned that i enjoy her, but it doesnt mean she fits me well. Im bad with her, my scoping is bad, etc.

[@MercurialDecree]

I dont fully agree with the statement about dps being the least impactful. My reasoning is that they are the gears that enable the game to move for either side. A tank can hold that line while supports assist but a tank even while being double pocketed will not be able to push a team back alone. Only the dps might can do that effectively.

[@alexm5318]

yo mills are you solo queueing or grouped with friends for comps? I can't seem to understand the logic behind ow2 comp ranking system, getting deranked even with 5-1 wins and dropping big after being afk for a season and a half... now stuck in bronze 5 and was SIlver 1 (stuck for avery long time) a while ago. Does this comp mode even climbs?

[@Pekara121]

Whenever my team struggles to get kills i just hop on zenyatta lol

[@dtabor85]

I think tank is the highest carry potential. Then support. Dps has the least. One great support can shut down several good dps skills alone. Suzu in general can ruin almost every ult. Then they turn around and kitsune and its gg go next.

[@swordofkhaine8464]

Wrong take. DPS are the difference makers. At a certain level, all tanks become the same level except for some crazy ball and doom players. But the ceiling and potential of dps like Widow, Sojourn is ,much higher.

[@Alex_Aramayo]

I want what you're smoking bc Dps diffs can't be solved, a Tank diff can be compensated & same for support but Dps??? Dude think

[@kingks1325]

@@swordofkhaine8464 you proved his point dps only makes a difference if the tanks are equal and the support cancel out . An equally skilled dps player and support player the support player will have more value simply off their kit alone.

[@swordofkhaine8464]

@@kingks1325 they will be equal almost all the time, because that's how match making works. The devs made it a point to force tanks to be always as close to each other as possible, there is no diff like in season 1. In almost all matches, tanks have similar dmg dealt, elims, and mitigations (if using shield). It's the DPS that are match made to make a difference.

[@kingks1325]

@@swordofkhaine8464 correct so since the tank matchup is equal majority of the time. By nature of their kits support will have the higher impact between dps and support in their games. One of the best dps in the game isn’t even in the dps category which is zen. If you don’t already play him pick him up and see how often selecting him can turn around perceivably losable games. Barring widow dps that have the next highest impact are being pocketed by mercy another support. Effectively showing op has a good grasp of the game and probably plays at a high elo. A lot of low elo players believe dps has an high impact due to playing support poorly. The only time dps have the highest impact is literally in a vacuum/ high elo where your tank and support are both getting equal value which even in high elo are very rare games.

[@toku5397]

I felt its extra hard to win on dps this season i hovered around masters the season before but now im losing games where i go like 30/7 in a 20 min game while tank has 16 deaths. Also my tanks have been lower ranks in a l9t of my games

[@luiscordero1072]

Skill issue

[@toku5397]

@@luiscordero1072 so true bestie

[@lonzoball5433]

Bros playing Tracer and Sombra💀

[@Fleebuss]

if you’re destroying on dps and so is the other one you win, even with a trolling tank you will win. on the other hand if you’re a tank and your dps is ass you will lose that’s how it works

[@toku5397]

@@Fleebuss that is not true lol tanks if both tanks are equal it's up to the dps to secure the win but if there is a clear tank gap the team gets run over

[@duncanalexander4241]

Wait, people actually wait for their tank? I played Ow1. When did this start happening?

[@noahlove9615]

I have been playing about 6 months now, my highest rank is gold 4. I usually outdo everyone but I have games where I’m just burnt out. How do I overcome the burnout part and play consistently?

[@SphereRS]

Honestly if you're struggling with burn out/mindset/tilting etc, the best thing to do is to just take a break in my opinion. Whether it's standing up and stretching a little bit and grabbing a glass of water, or taking a few days/weeks off of the game completely. Everyone is different but I personally just stop playing a game for a week or longer if I'm really not having fun but if I'm having fun and just getting mad in the moment I'll just step away from my PC for a minute

[@carston855]

How to climb past masters when the game starts transferring you to another server really far away cause there is not enough competition in your region?

[@aposslex]

This is so true. I don’t play enough to have levelled off yet but my current ranks are Dps: Gold 4 (last change from gold 4) Tank: Plat 4 (last change from Gold 3) Support: diamond 2 (not done 5 games yet in S4) I’m winning in tank and support pretty easily as I can do damage and provide utility. With dps all I can do is damage and when a couple do picks every fight don’t e rough, it’s just hard to carry

[@aposslex]

I went 5-1 on open (diamond 5 now) 5-0 on tank and 5-7 on dps

[@zGoldenHawk]

yeah it is I was in a comp game and I went like 50-10~ as Cassidy without a tank and we managed to hold off a full team for a bit since I was picking off the healers and dps first

[@zodiaccowboy2131]

POV you're getting tips from a meta slave

[@sroskjaer]

Is torb/soldier good for dps variety? And do they get countered by the same things?