Wing T in the Spread Offense

[@CoachMcKie]

Hey Coaches, Do any of you use sequential play calling during your games? If so, how do you go about doing it? Is it something you plan during the week, or more of a feel thing? I'd love to hear ya'lls thoughts.

[@jeffreymolinaro4128]

Coach McKie as a wing t guy who has incorporated spread formations into the concept, I would say it's always a feel thing. Wing t offense is designed on the idea of defensive conflict. In other words, whatever reaction the defender makes he is wrong. Traditionally, to do that you would count defenders and start by attacking 3rd defender out from center and see his reaction. I tend to call plays off the point of attack defenders reaction and who is making the tackle. For example, belly iso, watching playside end, if he is up field and inside backer making tackle because of flow, then we have tackle trap ctr. If olb making tackle, then we have our belly 2nd man through sweep. If de squeezes, then we will log him and run opt or keep pass or boot pass. All interrelated weak side running plays in wing t. Only time I script is formationally if I want to see how a deefebse adjusts to the formations, but the play calling still based on reaction.

[@greghood1552]

I've run split back veer and single wing. We always start with a base play, then try to organize the rest of the offense into an "if-then" sheet. Basically we try to imagine every adjustment that a defense might make to stop the base play and have a predetermined answer for it. So for instance if the defense is stopping ISV by Scrape exchange, then run base dive Lbs overpursuing, then run counter Safeties flying up to the alley, then call play action etc. It makes game planning easier as the game plan is somewhat built into the offense. We try to have one "answer " for every problem and to have one answer be able to address multiple problems if possible.

[@bamfam8544]

Hey Coach, why do you call your Receivers: L, Y, R ?

[@rileyblack4415]

We always used to script the first 12 plays for the first drive of the game. If the driver ends before then, we would do away with the rest. If it goes longer than 12 plays, we were doing our job a little too well on offense...

[@cantstopwontstop04]

Sequential play calling . Love it !!!! Yes!!!

[@ArmondoOrtiz76Lincol]

Love the fact this has many options from one formation, keeps it simple. Thanks

[@Kakavian70]

2 notes Coach, 1) As a wing-T guy, nice to see how you incorporated the sequential football concept into your play calling. Sorry I'm getting to this video rather late, but liked it. 2) Loving the library, especially the DeMeo Coaching the Triple Option!

[@robthornton7357]

Love what I just saw. You can absolutely punish a defense with this. Great vid!

[@spartanQB10]

I’m a coach in Delaware (which as you know the Wing T originated) and I LOVE incorporating Wing T plays into all offenses most teams here have adjusted to the spread but it’s still amazing to hit the counters and packer sweeps

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Webb, I'm slowly being brought over to the idea of incorporating some Wing-T runs in the spread. Do you have any materials you think I should look at to get better at the Wing-T runs? I want to learn as much as possible about the Buck Sweep. Would love it if you could point me in the right direction.

[@spartanQB10]

Coach McKie yes coach do you have an email I can reach you at? And you seriously should consider implementing some wing T in the spread especially for teams using a spread to make up for a lack of size.. our recent D2 state champion is a public school of 500 kids and won their 7th state title using wing T blocking and back motion, impressive when executed right

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Webb, My email address is [e-mail]

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

Coach McKie A tip that I used when I made the adjustment to the shotgun wing t was to look at plays ran away from the traditional tight end side of the formation. Hopefully that helps in any kind of way.

[@erickilpatrick5265]

at 7:18 to 7:21 also incorporate the seam route with the RPO action. Make it look like your snag first, then have the slot plant that foot and open his hips and get vertical up the seam. TOUCHDOWNS galore.

[@CoachMcKie]

+Eric Kilpatrick You aren't lying coach. We wouldn't use it as a RPO. We would use it as a Pop Pass.

[@darpinian1]

I use seam as a sequential play tagged along with using the Y to continuously crack the Outside linebacker and pulling the CB during my Jet and Rocket calls. Once I get that CB and LB used to getting pulled out of plays and crack blocked....we fake that so the CB stays at home to stop the jet/rocket, the LB is anticipating the crack then the Y hits the Seam route. Its a money play for sure.

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Darpinian, So you use that as a Pop Pass type deal?

[@darpinian1]

Yeah, its depends on the look we expect. We call it crack seam when we know the safety is play the run too hard, it lets the receiver know to get deep, we call it crack pop when we want the pass right over the LB who anticipates the run. Its usually called by us from the sideline based on what we saw the previous play. The joys of the Wing T is that I get to counter call vs players as opposed to defenses.

[@jamesbynum985]

I love it how you broke down the concepts of the Formation. Keep up the good work Coach. Can you do a segment on RPO

[@jacobphillips1483]

Coach, I absolutely think sequential play calling is devastating. I've seen it on my teams, particularly in the run game. I'm an OL guy so I love getting downhill, but I think when those three or four plays look exactly the same it keeps them guessing. As a DC, my strategy would be to take away the play you do best and align our defense to hopefully give us a chance vs. the others. Thanks for sharing!

[@randytongue]

I coach at a Wing-T school, so I have some understanding of sequential play calling. One of the important components of the Wing-T is the use of a Wingback to put the DE in conflict. Since you don’t have that, it might be hard for your Tackle to base block a stud DE. A suggestion I have for your second play is to have the Tackle pass set to invite the DE upfield.

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Tongue, Would an off-set tight end take the place of a wing back? And great suggestion on the pass setting with the tackle. I'm going to mess with that in the Spring to see if it works better. Thanks for the advice.

[@randytongue]

Yes, you could use an offset Tight End to block down on the DE. To me an off-set Tight End is a Wingback. It’s just a matter of personnel.

[@CoachMcKie]

I got you. Know, can I say I'm a Wing-T guy if I am in an off set look and run buck sweep? Because I freaking love Buck sweep. I've been studying it the past couple of weeks.

[@randytongue]

I would say you’re a Wing-T guy when BuckSweep is the first play that you teach. Here’s a video of some ways to run BuckSweep out of shotgun that might interest you. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/n37HhX9maqyVna8

[@CoachMcKie]

Great video coach. Thanks.

[@dustinmartin22]

I ran a lot of your RPO stuff last year... it worked well for us at the middle school level. I want to get better at coordinating the entire season though... what to learn first (after the basics of stance and angles)... what plays to focus on first, how large of a playbook is needed to be successful, do I teach sequence first, air raid, or just RPO.... if you had a seminar, I would be there in a heartbeat! This is the type of football I can hang my hat on, but I am always looking to get better at the coaching progression aspect of it throughout the season.

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach, I don't think you need a large playbook at all. Just continue to focus on the basics and rep the plays you usually have. I did a series on the plays I think middle schoolers need to know in order to be successful at the Air Raid. Give it a look. And I'm looking into creating a course on the Air Raid and installing it. Would you be interested in something like that if I did it?

[@dustinmartin22]

YES. I would most certainly would spend money on something like that!

[@jayroyal37]

Coach, thanks for the reply. Having difficulty designing our midline without disrupting that backfield alignment. Happy scheming!

[@henryjordan8899]

Also, Coach, you can go backside with the Motion Man up the sideline have Qb run a Waggle see what that looks like.

[@CoachMcKie]

Thanks coach. That would be a great addition

[@nykia31]

Gus Malzahn smashing that like button

[@CoachMcKie]

His offense is amazing when it’s clicking.

[@bjalomo]

Great video. Which software are you using to create those formations?

[@CoachMcKie]

Hudl

[@campbellmccauley8891]

Love the content coach. I've thought about pairing plays and this is the perfect trio. What's your opinion on pairing plays? I believe UT does it which makes them go at such a fast pace. I think if you pair these plays and use them in the same series you drive down the field with ease

[@CoachMcKie]

+Campbell McCauley Coach McCauley, Thank you for the kind words. I agree with you on pairing plays. I do think it makes you go faster. I think you can pair counter with power and power with buck. Add a couple of RPOs into the mix and you have 90 percent of your offense.

[@klanker22]

What kind of advice do you have for someone looking to get into coaching? I only played high school football and I was a kicker. I feel like that pigeon holes me into only being a special teams guys, which is great in its own right, but I feel that I know so much more and I’m willing to learn even more.

[@codywaligursky8873]

Another great option for the 3rd play (against the man blitz) is PA slant wheel.

[@byronmcmullen5599]

good job coach. great video.

[@CoachMcKie]

Thanks coach. Means a lot.

[@Royals-mx5nj]

Instead of the snag, why not run a slant and keep the Y in stride in grass may give you more explosion : )

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Baldridge, I like that. I'm going to mess around with it during the Spring.

[@kamaubentley3378]

I got a question it may seem stupid but what is the difference between the inside zone from the inside veer? It looks like the same play to me. I am interested in running the veer but with maybe a little more passing possibly

[@palmettobouy1]

Sequential play calling is the best. Forcing the defence into the wrong habit two or three times and then hitting them where they are vulnerable.

[@Cathcart66]

What’s the website you’re using to setup plays?

[@mikeadams581]

My 12&u team won the state championship last year running the Wing T. Old School.

[@CoachMcKie]

Mike Adams congrats coach

[@colonelrobertsjr.7882]

Wing T is a great system for 12 & U

[@coreybrown4826]

Great video coach

[@jakethornton4856]

yeah chip runs his plays like that at least in his college offense(see kenjon varner 400 yard rushing game against usc. i think it was because usc kept running man 2 or cover 2 its been awhile but i think he may have had a more presnap read to his offense cuz they would come to line and see if the quick call was there and then if it wasnt they would call a play from the sideline, but they did run a fair bit of rpo plays. his offense was also based on the inside zone but he didnt always push motion his back because he wanted to run the ball more and ran sum triple option out of that look. also he didnt run a two back backfield that much he used receiver motions to do the same thing tho

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Thornton, I remember that game. Barner had a massive day on the ground. I wonder if Chip only sets up his game planning by formation and then a couple of plays from within that formation. I want to say I heard Noel Mazzone talk about him doing that and that allowed him to go faster than anyone else in college football. Have you heard anything like that?

[@jakethornton4856]

idk how many plays kelly had in each formation. im not an actual coach i wud like to be and i study the game a lot. i am more of a pro style fan but i have been researching the spread thats how i came across ur channel. i love the chess match of adjustments and tbh i havent found a lot of resources online about his offense that really explain his play calling philosophy they always just talk about his base plays(inside zone, read option, bubble screen, bubble pop) but i have watched a lot of his games and i know his passing offense had some other more complex plays. i have tried to find a more in depth explanation of his offense but idk how. if i end up finding something ill send a link tho

[@artwayne757]

Great videos Coach. I have a simpleton question. What is that software you’re using?

[@CoachMcKie]

Hey Coach, Thanks for the kind words. I'm using Hudl Playbook.

[@jamescrandall9388]

What was the book that you showed at the beginning of the video?

[@CoachMcKie]

Airraidbook.com

[@daonetim]

Coach, do you send the motion to the same side each time?

[@RoadHouse-nm4nr]

Coach, what program is this that you are using?

[@marcosmartinez6286]

Great video! Thanks!

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Martinez, Thank you for the comment. Glad you liked it.

[@BLUEWHOR9]

Simple & good! Great vid coach! I just subscribed! You're going to be very helpful. I coach in Maryland!

[@CoachMcKie]

Thanks for watching coach. I also have s podcast if you are interested in listening. itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/talking-football-with-coach-mckie/id1329567772?mt=2

[@demetriodelgadillo1629]

Love the pass routes coach go left lol

[@CoachMcKie]

Thanks coach.

[@albriannatheprincess8369]

I need help on trying run the spread out of the double wing formation @coach mckie

[@CoachMcKie]

What are you looking for coach?

[@jayroyal37]

Coach, do you run any inverted veer or midline out of this concept?

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach, We have not. It's something I'm looking into for next year.

[@dylanbreshears222]

Looking to run something similar to this next year. Something I have been looking at is throwing the swing route to the back that goes in motion after we fake the inside zone, I think it will help draw the attention of backers or whoever else is supposed to have flat coverage(depending on their alignment). I believe this should help open up the TE snag as well as make them account for that man so that "catty" will be even more open in the middle of the field. My question is... Should that work? Will adding that swing route as a designed no read play be effective, and/or help with the next plays in the sequence?

[@CoachMcKie]

That should work coach. Anything to get the eyes of the defender off his key.

[@kevinsowers8041]

You talked about adding a link to a Coach Morehead video. I didn't see it in the comments.

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Sowers, I'm stupid. Here it is kzbin.info/www/bejne/rZ6ag5iVrNisfdU Sorry

[@besmanoska]

Coach mckie. May I ask what program you're using to draw up these plays?

[@CoachMcKie]

I use hudl playbook

[@Kakavian70]

Ah here's where you hid what I was looking for.

[@jorgemerio]

What is the App you are using to Drawing the plays?

[@CoachMcKie]

Hudl playbook.

[@MormonMustang_]

2000--2001.. Wing t under coach AL Lown went 30- 0. Back to back state championships. I'm sure there video somewhere. Silver bluff high school, Aiken, SC.

[@CoachMcKie]

I know all about Coach Lown. I went to school with his daughter.

[@grandmasterset5612]

great channel coach mckie

[@josephfouchaiii7775]

What program is this that you use to draw this up?

[@CoachMcKie]

Hudl playbook coach.

[@MrBigmel97]

Coach what if they have 2 in a gap

[@AuGold808]

Gus malzahn was so insanely dominant w the power wing t spread

[@CoachMcKie]

For a little bit he was.

[@thomash.l.9382]

ran the del wing-t in jersey, top 20 in the state 20 years in a row. Then they went to spread just like this, they got even better with less superior athletes.

[@CoachMcKie]

That’s awesome coach. Love it. And thanks for sharing

[@mspitalle]

I have that book in the back lol

[@alextorres8696]

Amazing

[@southernkingzentworldwide5099]

Pro offense

[@nickthompson5153]

Interesting article about running pretty much the entire offense out of one formation for sequential play calling reasons, with a lot of reference back to Chip. I get the impression this coach may be operating at a slightly lower level than you may be, but interesting nonetheless. prostylespreadoffense.com/2017/12/01/4-steps-insanely-fast-no-huddle-tempo-offense/?

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Thompson, Great freaking article. I wonder what level the coach is at.

[@suburbandiyguy661]

This is just the veer in different clothing.

[@CoachMcKie]

How so coach?

[@aSkylitDriveYO]

Inside zone and rpo is not wing t...

[@bigripj]

Madden player here 2023

[@deandrepowell4484]

Best against a 5-3

[@eli2142]

Eligzz

[@coachzac5442]

Obviously Y needs to be off the ball...

[@vanillamillz]

Fuck the spread give me the old wing t or double wing any day. All these coach's that have no clue what they're doing run this overplayed offense.

[@CoachMcKie]

Hey Coach, Thanks for letting us know how you feel. Hope you have a great day.

[@jacobphillips1483]

Coach, I absolutely think sequential play calling is devastating. I've seen it on my teams, particularly in the run game. I'm an OL guy so I love getting downhill, but I think when those three or four plays look exactly the same it keeps them guessing. As a DC, my strategy would be to take away the play you do best and align our defense to hopefully give us a chance vs. the others. Thanks for sharing!

[@CoachMcKie]

Coach Phillips, Thanks for leaving a comment. I love hearing from other coaches. I agree with you. I think keeping the DC guessing is the greatest thing about sequential play calling. It's the one thing the Wing-T has gotten 100% right.