Coal Trains of the Powder River Basin - The Orin Sub

[@nickwelchoff4677]

It’s amazing to see all those hopper cars without graffiti.

[@christopherbuckley94]

Yes, most of the "contemporary petroglyphs" can hardly be considered art! LOL!

[@cooke127]

I was thinking the same thing

[@andrewyaden5209]

Not a lot of gangsters in Montana and Wyoming 😂

[@tomrinde4487]

The big unit trains Hardley ever stop in urban areas. Watch unloading.

[@denisetindall1487]

I like train videos on KZbin 👍

[@gp3829]

Great to see SD70MACs in fabulous Executive livery. Thanks for posting.

[@PCBill0622]

Very educational video. I see these videos were shot before the BNSF tariffs required the shippers (coal mines) to spray a surfactant on top of the coal loads to reduce coal dust as the trains travel. At West Thunder the spray apparatus is just north (railroad west) of the load out silo. I personally think the area is also very scenic and the p.m. thunderstorms can be spectacular.

[@25mfd]

good comment... all that coal dust settles on the ballast, preventing proper drainage which leads to derailments... BNSF knows all about that

[@williammorigeau2980]

I didn't see coal dust near or around the ballast!

[@25mfd]

@@williammorigeau2980 what you didn't see is a good thing... that means the surfactant they are spraying on the coal is working

[@petrivatanen9017]

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[@NormanSilv]

We visited Bill and were amazed at the facility

[@AustinWesternRailfan]

I own this one on DVD, and honestly is my favorite production from yall. glad to see this one uploaded for others to see!

[@20molecula]

Coal trains are my favorite consist to watch, so this video is on the top of my list. Thanks for the great production quality!

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[@jleveille2]

Thank you and thank you again for this video. I love the explanations. That is why when I have my bagel at the bagel shop I watch this video over and over. Thanks again one last time

[@sonnicman]

1:25:21 Two trains next to a field of Sunflowers 🌻. What more could you ask for. ❤

[@jleveille2]

Living the dream watching this video on new I-Phone and eating blueberry pancakes I enjoy this video

[@robertcummings1971]

I love the different engines for these coal trains, like the BNSF SD70 macs or the UNION PACIFIC AC 44'S AND AC 60'S great power from those railroad companies. Also the SD70 aces and GEVO units too!🙂💯👍

[@mattanderson6336]

43:14 When they tried to do the original lift to put the loadout tube in place it was a windy day and the tube fell across the tracks tying up traffic for several days.

[@Mcdaffodilhill]

Most interesting video, thanks for your excellent commentary.

[@JoshuaEhlen]

Been looking forward for this one

[@jaygeist1425]

It's so cool to see

[@3006USMC]

Excellent video!

[@JohnNyren65]

Fantastic video and footage!

[@trainsofmichiganproduction5418]

11:45 looks like a model train passing the set of engines

[@jamesburnside3023]

Fantastic location and captures will have to check it out sometime

[@caseyalan5812]

I’ve been waiting for this one!

[@bradleyjanes2949]

Great video

[@EntertainmentWorldz]

super great video sir ❤❤😍😍

[@CollinCountyRailfan]

Very cool video

[@lastnamefirstname7950]

Very interesting, show more digging and loading ……..thanks

[@randallfawc7501]

I certainly hope 7idea will be doing a comprehensive video on the 4014 BigBoy excursion this year! (2024)

[@davidmcintosh4301]

1:30:42

[@osrr6422]

49:50 Aww look at the baby!

[@ericbamberg8524]

Wow, the camera pans to follow the train? There's no crossing bell blaring in every shot? There's no machine gun SLR camera going rata-tat-tat tika tika tika tika tat a foot from the microphone? I thought this was impossible.

[@vernonmatthews181]

BNSF#9615 working hard as a DPU leaving Donkey Creek 😊 BTW - Greetings from New Zealand 🇳🇿 ❤ PS - Yes I did spot BNSF#9615 @ "28:03" on the second occasion in the number 1 of 3 trailing dpu's at the rear. 👌 PS2 - Incidentally it was BNSF#9315 @ "26:42" the number 2 lead position same consist 😊 between the flashing simultaneous sìgnals either side of the tracks 🚦🚦 Love that triple track curve @ "30:39" ❤

[@Aaronnanneman-c1q]

Did any of you want to hear about those big massive trucks that Aaron benston told you man that's freaking huge dude

[@turkfiles]

Was wondering, since this video is from 2011, how much the traffic has declined since then, especially since 2021?

[@brian4958]

Didn’t live in the area then but move near this sub in 2015. I think it’s slowed down quite a bit

[@AustinWesternRailfan]

eh, it went from about 60-70 trains a day to now about 40-45 a day, still a good number but it ain't as busy as it used to be

[@johnniewelbornjr.8940]

I'll echo the other replies. Lived in the region (as well as in Casper) since about 2014 and it's obvious it has slowed. As a truck driver doing heavy-haul, I've been into several of these mines, as well as the surrounding oil field. Always enjoyed doing my photography up this corridor between Douglas and Gillette.

[@brian4958]

@@johnniewelbornjr.8940 I live in Douglas use to work oil wells up by country line just off hwy 59.

[@TedFerguson-k4h]

I live in Casper since 1978 and have been to the coal line several times over the years

[@Trackroamer]

Question, why is AC power “sd70macs” used so much in the basin? I noticed this on my way through about 3 years ago. There was an entire 70 locomotive string of sd70macs on a siding near Gillette WY. Is this something do to with the heat and extreme cold?

[@25mfd]

AC units are used because their traction motors perform better for longer periods while under load... AC traction motors stay much cooler than DC motors which makes them last longer

[@railfannerofthenorthwest]

Its a once in a lifetime chnace to see a CNW let alone have an SP pass a maintence train

[@TrainsStorms]

I love coal trains for most railways

[@bigd510]

Does the marking on the end of each car indicate that end has a rotary coupler? I see the bottom dump hoppers are not marked like that. Great video, love all of your videos.

[@erniew5805]

east of Gillette there are hundreds of BNSF locomotives sitting on sidings.

[@flyboy6876]

Watch them come into Vancouver, WA, to turn north to Vancouver, B.C.

[@Trashman702]

It amazes me how they can pull these drags with only 3 locomotives but you will se an intermodal train of equivalent length which is considerably lighter with 4 or more locomotives

[@ericterbeek4309]

That's because the intermodal trains run higher speeds and need the additional horse power to overcome wind drag as well as the tonnage they pull. Bulk trains just need enough power to slog over the line.

[@Trashman702]

@@ericterbeek4309 That makes sense. More wing drag at high speed. Thanks

[@Tirpitz_44]

Z trains always have lots of power especially for the ups

[@user-wm3hu7lo1g]

@@ericterbeek4309 Its not wind drag. Diesel engines work in a way that pull is reduced as speed goes up. There's four, five or even more engines heading z trains simply because three engines could not achieve high speeds. Even though coal trains can weigh much more than stack trains they can do with fewer engines, simply by accepting moderate speed. (Assuming no heavy grades)

[@ScottKew-g8r]

I am wondering how many export docks in Comifornia ban coal until the only one left is San Diego. That abandoned San Diego Arizona and Eastern right of way might start looking kind of juicy right about now.

[@cowboyup1215]

Funny, I got friends that live by this mine and I’m from Birmingham, funny how our lives have been connected long before I knew them

[@jimmievetor5008]

Do they have a set number of hopper cars in each train departure. In the 60 and 70’s I started my railroad career with the New York Central as a trainman and conductor running from Indianapolis IN to Cincinnati OH. My favorite was catching the daily coal train run especially with a hot rod engineer. I’ve been on disability since 1988 but still love those trains.

[@normanbrown5177]

How do UP & BNSF handle dispatching trains in the PRB? In one clip three of the four mains were occupied by UP trains.

[@slug96]

All trains on the Orin Subdivision are dispatched by BNSF dispatchers in Forth Worth. UP trains leave the BNSF Orin Sub at Orin Junction, where they go onto UP's Powder River Subdivision; which is dispatched by UP dispatchers in Omaha.

[@normanbrown5177]

Thanks!

[@REVELLO608]

trains rolling coal and coal rolling

[@jleveille2]

I have a question I was wondering when the loaded coal go to there destination and empty there load Do automatically head back to the PRB thanks for all your videos

[@fasteddiesgarage5000]

Boy those rails must get ground all the time to sound like that no slippage in these tracks

[@JOHNNYCARROLL-f9e]

thats a lot of coal trains if ever did I see.

[@curtislowe4577]

Wasn't there inconsistency as to whether the rotary coupler end was forward or trailing in the consist? If the engine is always decoupled at the delivery site it wouldn't matter. Are there delivery sites where the engines are not decoupled? Do some bottom dump cars also have rotary couplers? One such consist had the painted end (usually a bright green panel) distributed forward and trailing throughout the consist. I worked at the WA Parrish Power Plant in the 80s. That plant was once out in the sticks but now has new subdivisions within a few miles. I cannot recall if the engines were decoupled or not. I was hoping to see that the Utility Fuels cars were still in use but a dim recollection is that the WAP plant got the coal from a mine in Montana, not Wyoming. I have seen a consist of those cars in the last decade or so here in Texas. UTFX is the acronym?

[@Nicola636128]

Fantastic video! One question: why do both BNSF and UP use AC locomotives instead of DC locomotives on coal trains?

[@ericterbeek4309]

AC locos are better suited for heavy tonnage.

[@ScottKew-g8r]

Comifonia has cities like Richmond and Los Angeles trying to stop shipping coal out of their ports. SO CP bought out KSU into Mexico and said " Looks like it s my turn now fella s."

[@Atsf1976]

Great video and thanks for posting as I am going out there next week. Do the manned helpers cut off as the train is moving like they do at Crawford Hill? Are all of the BNSF coal trains utilizing manned helpers or just certain ones?

[@AllanLoveJr]

There are less than 200 coal Fired power plants in this country left. So I do not know how much longer the Powder River Basin Coalfields are going to last.

[@pjtemplin]

There is a huge export business that won’t disappear quickly.

[@JETZcorp]

Tons of these trains roll through Oregon and Washington on their way to Asia. China burns a ridiculous amount of coal, and they're building new coal plants faster than the US is shutting them down. The global coal business is still very strong. Forgetting about climate for a moment, coal pollution kills over a million people per year globally via respiratory and chronic disease.

[@allthingsconsidered3211]

america runs on coal

[@hhhgame3161]

BNSF Seattle sub please

[@DL541]

I wonder if someone ever actually put the pencil to paper on fuel consumption. I can see slowing down from 60 to 40, but, in many case more horses gives you better fuel efficiency.

[@railyardfilms6491]

Gas 4 locomotives is pricer now days because of oil plus gas from other countries on planet that we don't know about how fuel good it can be

[@railyardfilms6491]

And the cheapest gas pipe we had in USA from Canada to Texas got cancelled because of government

[@turkfiles]

@@railyardfilms6491and we’ve been paying the price for that plus all the other drilling and exploration that the current administration stopped. What a mess we’re in because of their ignorant or purpose driven decisions.

[@DL541]

@@railyardfilms6491When I started for the RR, bulk diesel was $.40. I should have said: I wonder if anyone ever penciled out isolation and throttle limit instructions actually saves fuel over getting over an engineers experience.

[@johnv.cramer3008]

What are those birds that are flying around over the trains.????????

[@jackvonfeld1178]

“Clean burning Powder River coal.”

[@williamshalz611]

Where they do the turn around+

[@25mfd]

at the mine itself... every mine has a giant loading loop

[@RandThompson-dd3sk]

I put in an app for Black Thunder Mine back about '79 or so.

[@NuclearSalmon]

It's not much but I find it funny that some coal makes 2 or even 3 trips in the same car, along for the ride!

[@NorthBay43]

Howling emd SD70 locomotives

[@cpr8959]

no warbonnets?

[@AustinWesternRailfan]

no, seeing warbonnets or any dash 9 on coal service is rare because of them having DC traction. DC put with heavy trains under load don't mix well. AC traction is best for these heavy trains, as they have great performances for heavy loads such as coal.

[@rustybales6826]

I wanna move to Bill. Lol.

[@johnniewelbornjr.8940]

The store and old post office seem to be for sale... lol

[@mattanderson6336]

When I worked for BNSF on a mechanical crew in Gillette we had Bill as a resupply point when we had to go way south for an engine repair. Had a membership in the world famous Bill Yacht Club.

[@fakecumberland]

You were doing so well until the end when you said ‘Appalachian’ the way no one who lives there says that.

[@7ideaproductions]

Yes I have heard that most of us out west were taught in school to say it wrong. My apologies!

[@davidmorris7696]

WV Coal charges this MacBook!!!!

[@royo1450]

Coal keeps the lights on.

[@KimiWallrus]

Those DPUs need a respirator!

[@Paul-jb7br]

I went to college to become an engineer but never got to drive a train.,

[@railyardfilms6491]

😊😊

[@toolsteel8482]

Quality fuel for electric living.

[@andrewmcarthur3843]

Imagine trying to replace coal with wind and solar power lol

[@JETZcorp]

Natural gas is much better, and nuclear is better still. Coal is great at keeping the lights on, but the cost in human lives is about 10x higher than anything else. The coal deaths from respiratory disease amount to about 1 Chernobyl per week. It's also where most of the mercury in fish came from. It's a bad scene. But the trains are cool, and it really is better than not having any power because it's cloudy.

[@cobra7250]

I like the content on your channel. I just wish you wouldn’t use telephoto lens shots. I see nothing redeemable about them. Trains are slow, distorted and a waste time. Just my opinion thanks.

[@chrisszollos1543]

Long focal length telephoto lenses are required to get clear close up shots from a long distance. And you'll find that it's not just the lens that makes these trains look slow, most of them are just slow

[@Pam-y7y]

Kinda rude people

[@michaelreynolds1892]

Lots of flat spots on wheels there

[@kenmelrac]

Thirteen year old video!!! how about spending some of the money you've made to make NEW videos instead of doing what hollywood does, re-releasing old, out-of--date videos?

[@marcg.3830]

They put their videos on KZbin for free and you’re complaining! I mean some people!

[@horseman942]

Great attitude🙄

[@Trashman702]

Get lost. Enjoy this epic production or go elsewhere

[@chipsrafferty8362]

Git boy,git outa here boy.

[@rivergladesgardenrailroad8834]

this is Decades old, and should be confined to the dustbin....of poluting America history. How dare you put this out, as anything other than historical.

[@ericterbeek4309]

What are you talking about? This is still a current operation that powers more than 50% of the country. Get out of here with your crying. There's no way to currently replace coal for the power requirements this country needs without spending more money on less reliable sources of energy. The coal and power industry as a whole is cleaner now than it's ever been.

[@EmmaBarr-ft8le]

his video...he can do whatever he wants. guess if you can do better, do it. i personally like his videos, old or new. ive bought a bunch off of him. furthermore, it shows 2011, that aint decades.

[@stevenconnolly7907]

There have also dockets before the STB about service issues to and from the coal markets. I believe the issues are large enough to support the need for reciprocal switching. 🛤️

[@25mfd]

yea this type of crap has been an issue for YEARS with the railroads... there have been NUMEROUS court cases even supreme court cases regarding unfair railroad rate practices and the like