COD: Vanguard Zombies is the WORST Zombies experience ever made

[@Bricky]

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[@prime3k695]

Damm bro this shit DUMMMMMMYYYYYYYY BAD

[@Frankenllama]

NGL it's like if you ordered Conan Exiles from Wish

[@jeremythomas1081]

How did you not even mention the xp from zombies is absolutely dog dodo. I would bet zombies get 50% of normal multiplayer xp..

[@tomasfidalgo1122]

im just going to say one thing to u ... yes

[@leroymcclelland7042]

I am bored on first and only time playing want my money back

[@etl2474]

“If it ain’t broke, break it, and then forget how to fix it.” -Activison

[@xXJofflesOo]

yknow vanguard was developed by sledgehammer games right?

[@HALOman-vi2tg]

@@xXJofflesOo yeah which is owned by activision

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

"But we know how to fix it, though." "......" "Boss?" *"You're fired."*

[@appleboy5243]

“Maybe we should just make it good this time?” “The fuck out of my office”

[@elvispresley3327]

This game would be a lot better if treyarch full made it but sledgehammer made it

[@AveragePixel]

today i learnt that the COD zombies economy is currently experiencing inflation

[@m27zero44]

Zombies dropping harder then german economie in 1921

[@digibear97channel5]

Thank you AveragePixel very cool

[@aintheidot9111]

You gonna make videos again?

[@doroz015]

Thats legit what I was thinking lmfaooo

[@jofloch9955]

No biggie, they are waiting a little before they start selling micro transaction points cards.

[@AnjaliyaIronwolf]

"the only thing Activision is better at then delaying games, is abusing women" oh fuck, I'm almost as dead as Activision after that.

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

*Damn* that was a good one.

[@hunde2430]

Oh fuck I'm gonna need a timestamp for that, sounds fking rad

[@hunde2430]

Oh wait nvm, found it 19:41

[@TheArklyte]

Activision doesn't care about such things one bit. I stopped buying their products after fall of 2019(release of CoD2019 that attributed several irl warcrimes to other nations, censorship of Blitzchung and Hong Kong, inner purge in the company). But you kept on buying their products. Just like I did when I ignored the Red Shirt guy only to be reminded what a shitty corpo that is. And after you left, they still have enough customers. And will have even more. They can rape children on live TV and they'd still have enough target audience for their products.

[@emma6648]

Lol they even abuse me without me being there, I’m abused by playing their games.

[@tencraziest5697]

Honestly seeing zombies stand completely still is so weird. In the good games the zombies were constantly coming towards you, like a swarm of heat seeking robots so seeing em being passive is a bit of a trip.

[@winlover37]

I actually liked that part about outbreak in cold war. Being able to sneak up on or just observe passive zombies is pretty cool, just not in a round based map.

[@cookies23z]

reminds me of when your friend or brother would find a cheese spot and youd chuckle at the zombies standing around

[@Rich4198]

Way worse when you realize Sledgehammer had an extra year to develop Vanguard while Treyarch was forced to push out Cold War a year early. Treyarch was responsible for the zombies for vanguard and I honestly believe Activision burnt out Treyarch

[@xNemesis_]

They do indeed and also cold war was in the hands of Sledgehammer and Raven software but Activision had to give it to Treyarch because both studios (Raven and SH) acted like a bunch of kids according to the reports

[@406MontanaChad]

And yet Treyarch decided to drop this garbage mode instead of roundbased.

[@joshmillere6263]

@@406MontanaChad yes because it was treyarchs decision to release this game LMAO

[@DonaldDuck-s8v]

@@joshmillere6263 they did though? They were in charge of Zombies and chose to release Shit-break. *ONCE AGAIN* even though literally nobody loves it.

[@gealach4665]

@@DonaldDuck-s8v Outbreak is good this isn't and a lot of people love outbreak.

[@iberis361]

Call Of Duty: Black Ops zombie minigame is still my personal favorite, not everyday can you play as a past President of United States teaming up with Castro to kill zombies

[@voidcheque7019]

I enjoyed the arcade game a lot as well! Unless that's what you're referring to.

[@thefbi3350]

@@voidcheque7019 he was talking about bo1 zombies map where you play as John f Kennedy

[@voidcheque7019]

@@thefbi3350 okay, his use of "minigame" led me to believe it was the arcade game.

[@thefbi3350]

@@voidcheque7019 idk how since the next part he was talking about John f Kennedy

[@voidcheque7019]

@@thefbi3350 that's where the confusion was, because he said "minigame". No one calls zombies a minigame. They just call it zombies. So when he mentioned those guys, I was completely fucking lost. That's as deep as I'm going with this lol. You can see it or not.

[@AnEdgyWeeb]

They really castrated Pack-A-Punch, huh… The sick looking guns with the laser gunshots were the highlight of doing it, the damage and ammo increase was an added benefit.

[@tylerbastow5012]

this literally made me pissed. the gutted zombies and made a disgrace. I haven't bought the game and I'm not going to. have been a cod player through and through and I'm jumping ship to battlefield till they make a good game. I'm sad to say it but cod is a dieing game.

[@AnEdgyWeeb]

@@tylerbastow5012 Have you seen the state of Battlefield 2042, it's not really any better

[@ningyo5855]

There was no better feeling than shooting a Pack-a-Punched SMG or LMG and hearing those satisfying PEW sounds.... fucking hell, what happened to CoD?

[@OpticHamster69]

@@AnEdgyWeeb what's so bad about Battlefield? Haven't really been following it much

[@AnonymousNut]

@@OpticHamster69 Bugs... bugs everywhere

[@copyrightedshortsword9900]

“I’m gonna play Halo Infinite, they show some promise” Well that aged poorly

[@CrimsonArk3]

The moment he said that i came scrolling through the comments to find exactly this

[@Sam_Hyde_Apologist]

writing was on the wall with that terrible E3 reveal, yet everybody fell for it.

[@sauceinmyface9302]

@@Sam_Hyde_Apologist The initially fun beta and promising campaign turned everyone around to favor, but the initial jank and lacking content didnt get fixed fast enough. It should've been several gamemodes, maps, and weapons in a few months, not a few years.

[@B1g_B0sssss]

@@sauceinmyface9302 i am not into halo, though i heard a lot about infinite. I also heard that they promised a split screen campaign, and that the ceo also promised it... But they didn't. Actually more embarassing that vanguard zombies.

[@9VOL9]

Infinite is good

[@Jormyyy]

I didn't even know Vanguard _had_ zombies mode, that's how little I cared for the game.

[@Coswalker27]

I didn't even know the game it was coming out until I got a KZbin ad.

[@Jormyyy]

@@Coswalker27 Bruh basically same I saw the ad on my xbox one day and said "Wait there's another new cod already tf?"

[@biwarayoganata]

Yeah, same. I got a notification for this video, read the title, and went, "wait, Vanguard *HAS* zombie mode?". Honestly, I'm at the point where if I were to hear or see the word "Vanguard", my brain would automatically avoid it altogether.

[@strikeforce1500]

I legit thought Vanguard was a DLC to CoD WW 2, I only knew it was a new game when a friend told me it's a different game

[@FriendlyGoblinWasTaken]

​@@JormyyySame here, saw an ad on the PS store before that I had no idea, at first I thought it was a new season for warzone

[@SWOL]

I love watching Vanguard Zombie rants because I feel like we’re all in the same support group. How in the hell did we get here after such amazing maps like shadows of evil, origins, der eisendrache, Mob of the dead, all of black ops 1 and so many more

[@mindofmantae8288]

Greed. That’s how we got here.

[@ltldrmrby7973]

Yes, greed, but I don't understand how making a game terrible increases sales.

[@lordheadass3662]

@@ltldrmrby7973 warzone makes enough money, they don’t need to put effort

[@danielaromeo4334]

I know right? Like I’ve been constantly playing black ops3 zombie maps, even when Cold War came out.

[@therandomgamer8107]

Jimmy zilenski left blundel was ok and left too

[@AzureRoxe]

Just by watching the gameplay, i noticed something. It plays as if this zombies mode is part of the BR. The weapons are color-coded, stuff drops from zombies, there's chests that spit out weapons [not THE random chest, loot chests], safe points, sudden "go do this objective" that you're forced to do it, etc. It all plays like this mode is part of Warzone, but they added it to Vanguard because lolzombiesmode.

[@moose8021]

This comes from Cold War, they did this same gameplay in Cold Wars zombies, most noticeably in Outbreak.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

@@moose8021 imo Cold War zombies did it well though. This feels like a super simplified version of outbreak on a smaller map with little to no content. One big criticism I did have with Cold War though is that the maps didn’t seem to have much personality

[@moose8021]

@@jeremyroberts8822 100%, still wasn't my cup of tea, but based on reviews of friends and BrockyTulip9, I think I'd still like it leagues more than Vanguard zombies.

[@beatsbymonny]

They wanted to have an RPG-ish loot system in zombies which is sick but it’s attached to vanguard

[@ronnieradon]

Did you play Cold War zombies xD

[@ryanbolson23]

22:36 “halo infinite, ran by a company who knows what they are doing” That did not age well

[@leonkennedylk18]

It's kind of embarrassing when you can't do better than the first WaW map, which was basically 3 rooms, and the box. No perks, no pack a punch, not even really a huge variety of weapons, but I remember me and my friends staying up all night to see how well we could do. This is just garbage.

[@kingofbeez14]

This is a nostalgia effect to a degree

[@nerychristian]

I loved that Zombies map. It was simple but fun. It required teamwork to move on. The new games are garbage.

[@grtf47]

Dude I stayed up all night on nacht see untoten camping with my team on the second floor in the back where the grenade on the wall is with the mg42 and I don’t regret a second doing it. Those days were special and will always be.

[@roronoazoro2970]

@@kingofbeez14 I wouldn’t say it’s just nostalgia, I’ll still go back and play nacht but this new zombies is seriously garbage

[@andrewmeyer3599]

@@kingofbeez14 It's actually called good map and game design, unlike now

[@SilentButDudley]

I bought vanguard, instantly went to zombies, played for 30 minutes, then refunded. The experience is EMBARRASSING. It’s a far cry from anything that made Zombies successful.

[@hyennavernhyavonragnarok3999]

Same except I'm on PS4 so i got fucked 80$ and have a game i won't even play it anymore...... Thanks treyarch for hyping up this zombie

[@Anthony-ve6og]

@@hyennavernhyavonragnarok3999 you can refund it, gotta go through support and hope they refund it, worked for me a few times

[@hyennavernhyavonragnarok3999]

@@Anthony-ve6og i did the day after and it has been since launch that i have 0 reply, so i got ignored i guess

[@DatHombre]

I already started hating zombies when they made it sooo focused on the Easter egg forever ago, but this is by faaar a new low. Just crazy how insanely blind they can be to what made zombies popular from the start

[@Drocksas]

Careful on that wording. Some Activision exec might see it and think they need to make Zombies into a Far Cry clone to make it successful again. And we all know how that'll go

[@eji]

A little insight on the part at 20:15 coming from someone who worked on COD games for almost a decade, Activision always wanted a COD every year, and so the 3 "main" studios (IW, Treyarch, Sledge) would usually switch off, as you indicated. But what was rarely known from the outside was that the studio wouldn't truly get that full 3 years to work on the game as they should have. A lot of the first half of the "3 year cycle" would be still stuck in DLC content work or assisting one of the other studios with a level or two, and so by the end of it, you were really lucky to get a year, or a year and a half tops to completely make/finish a AAA title that was expected to make billions. Add to that that Activision would often step in and veto or demand changes that the studio didn't really want to make, and you just end up with a meat grinder assembly line of COD games getting pumped out and becoming progressively more derivative. And as you mentioned earlier in the video, it's not even one main studio heading the game anymore... they have multiple studios working on separate elements and then frankensteining it together for the final product. TBH I'm glad I left when I did, lol.

[@novared7]

That's what I thought. I figured they didn't actually get three years. Good on you for getting out

[@winlover37]

You should share this more, this was really fascinating to read. Sorry you had to deal with Activision...

[@RatSpleam]

Man it would be nice to play a half decent Cod again. It's been years.

[@zzStiitchzz]

Anybody with a brain cell would know this , cool story bro

[@Boricua9353]

@@zzStiitchzz good to know you are the proud owner of one brain cell. Very cool! 👍

[@dimetime35c]

I loved zombies and this looks absolutely garbage!!! I remember playing with my zombies crew and having to hold crawlers for like 30 minutes while someone had to go eat dinner.

[@the_jones528]

Holding a crawler while your friend eats dinner is awesome to hear.

[@dimetime35c]

@@the_jones528 dude wed hold crawlers for bathroom breaks, when someone needed to do something, take showers, pretty much if someone needed to step away we'd hold them.

[@ahahm3]

@@dimetime35c Lol your friends are cool for that, for me, if you had to do something, we'd keep the last zombie for like 5 mins but then kill it and start trolling the afk player lol

[@coreyenglish9566]

Get on the catwalk I gotta eat dinner guys 😂 der reise lol

[@dimetime35c]

@@coreyenglish9566 pretty much it only worked cause we would do it for each other. We knew if we needed to do something we could trust the others to wait.

[@rhys8354]

The ending rant about Activision is honestly really tragic, when you really take a step back and look at how the company is now.

[@scarymeunster9095]

Remember when Activision was the _good guys?_ Nah, me neither. 35 years is a long time. Pretty sure most COD players aren’t even that old. Or gamers in general, really. But once upon a time, they were actually the heroes. Check way back in Atari history and you’ll see it. It’s true what they say - _”You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”_

[@FecalMatador]

@@scarymeunster9095 you don’t even have to go back that far. The Tony Hawk Pro Skater series says enough

[@taintsmacker4008]

If you didn't know, part of the reason Halo Infinite is good right now is that during development they formed a team of feedback experts by gathering a bunch of the biggest Halo content creators so they could tailor the game to actual long time fans and veteran. Every developer should take big ass notes in bold and italics from that.

[@theunknownleaf409]

Tape it to the wall of the front hall with text size 1000

[@taintsmacker4008]

@@theunknownleaf409 I say write it on the inside of the eyelids with glow in the dark ink. Every time they blink, they get reminded.

[@ScoutTrooperMan]

and they also got one of the older devs(joe staten) to join their dev team

[@supremecai5857]

Playtesting/Designing for your target audience?? Revolutionary. Lmaooo (might as well be nowadays unfortunately...)

[@taintsmacker4008]

@Mehdusa Yeah. But they are taking steps to fix it quick. They already did what they could without reworking it by ensuring you get at least one or two easy challenges that are going to be earned by just playing like normal.

[@Forcer69]

I think we owe Black Ops 4 a big apology, that game looks like an 11/10 compared to Vanguard

[@afternoon_cigarettes2372]

You're preaching brother. Vanguard zombies is so fucking bad.

[@roguegamer1173]

Perhaps we treated it too harshly…

[@MrDustyGaming]

It was still shit compared to bo1 and 2

[@godhand2018]

I actually had a lot of fun with BO4. My main gripes with it were the bullshit operator gadgets (mainly Prophet) and the gunplay/slow ttk made it feel like it's not a cod game. Multiplayer was pretty fun, zombies was good, blackout was fun for a battle royale and the camos were amazing (especially diamond). That being said I also think vanguard is better than both MW and cold war purely from a multiplayer standpoint.

[@afternoon_cigarettes2372]

@@MrDustyGaming Damn right lol, but compare bo4 to vanguard and bo4 is an absolute masterpiece.

[@Winasaurus]

I remember watching my friend play black ops zombies after trying it myself and seeing the cool tech I didn't know about was mind-blowing. Discovering map secrets, learning how to access certain areas in different ways, what perks are strong, which guns are good even if you might not think so. I remember thinking shotguns were pretty good because they deal a lot of damage and you can interrupt the reload. But seeing my friend ditch shotguns to get weak rapid weapons to farm points was such a great revelation moment. Same for learning how to get pack a punch on the maps where it was more esoteric like tranzit. Now it's just like "No, stop having tech. Stop having interesting things. Here's your damn pack a punch. You don't get points anymore. Now play."

[@afterpasthours7504]

Why do we need a minimap AND a compass for zombies? The compass seems completely useless as it ALSO shows enemy directions while your minimap is telling you exactly where they are all around you.

[@hunde2430]

Even a red dot for enemies too, like what the fuck?

[@feedthemeat543f]

It's nonsensical cause you don't need all that shit for zombies lol They're basic enemies that both charge you, and make a ton of noise doing it. It's not hard to see them coming

[@ronnieradon]

Yeah, the only use for the compass in zombies is in Cold War when playing Outbreak.

[@johnromero6315]

We definitely don't need any kind of map or compass in zombies, but it seems weird to complain about such a non-issue. Especially considering how bad the rest of this shit show is.

[@yinlo5876]

Maybe they're just lazy to remove it from multiplayer..

[@chrisrivera4922]

I will say, I loved outbreak and round based maps. I really like how both experiences felt familiar yet different from each other. This game just feels like the worst of both worlds blended together

[@disturbedone3036]

Absolutely loved outbreak. Vanguard just totally shit on zombies though...

[@codystartin999.]

Outbreak was pretty good enjoyed it a lot

[@jackswanson8096]

Outbreak wasn’t very good in my opinion, but I agree with this statement

[@codystartin999.]

@@jackswanson8096 like good for when we had no other content I mean my bad

[@Time-LG]

Actually this took the best of both and combined hem ino a great round based experience

[@makapaka_madafaka_]

As a gun guy and a history nerd this game gave me immense amount of pain. And I didnt even play it.

[@Overlord99762]

Holy shit fucking same

[@makapaka_madafaka_]

@@Overlord99762 honestly I dont have problems with for example red dots in ww2. Little stuff like this doesnt bother me that much. BUT SAYING THAT BAR IS A F'ING ASSAULT RIFLE? OR THOMPSONS FRONT GRIP ON A MP40?

[@Overlord99762]

@@makapaka_madafaka_ it's just horrifying

[@makapaka_madafaka_]

@@Overlord99762 or the infamous Mosin in 12,7x108. OR THE STEN. THE FUCKING STEN FROM THE TRAILER JESUS CHRIST.

[@Overlord99762]

@@makapaka_madafaka_ MOSIN IN WHAT

[@SunnyyScott]

I just miss zombies when you was alone in a bunker or a swamp, creeped out to the max but enjoying it so much. THAT was zombies. Simple and scary, but genius

[@bigmanliam]

yeah zombies kinda fell off at BO2. I love BO2 but man it is way too complex. i hate having to watch the yt videos just to understand wtf is happening

[@0Rosanna]

​@@bigmanliam I mean bo3 wasn't too bad aside from the gobblegum imo

[@deacon6221]

@@bigmanliamyeah at least in bo2 you could figure out the map by yourself just by playing. In bo3 you had to look up guides for things as simple as power.

[@Hugabugahugabuga]

@@deacon6221yeah but the Easter eggs in bo3 where s tier

[@Yuhyeauhuhsurebuddy1]

​@@bigmanliamZombies hit an all-time peak with BO3, with the community and the YT scene and how it became more mainstream.

[@renegadepyro726]

They’re trying too hard in zombies now. It used to be fun just playing with friends trying to see how far you can go or if you wanted you can do the easter egg with a bit of a challenge. Now they’re making it just objective based, and just so boring.

[@ShaddySoldier]

Yeah, and tbh while the map was cool if you want to talk story wise once it because great war zombies time travel it has jumped too many sharks in trying to take itself seriously. Stuff like moon was well over the top, of course, but it was still like an O.G. map. Same with mob od the dead.

[@JayRM714]

How many wave based zombie matches can you play until its just not fun anymore? Outbreak on cold war was a ton of fun and vanguard zombies is actually pretty decent... Wave based zombies is just boring af now...

[@kylelegarvier172]

@@JayRM714 not at all. The older zombies are more fun and while cold war was good it wasnt even bo1. And yeah outbreak was fun but this isn't because they took outbreak made it WORSE with no "open world" and honestly just worse challenges, and the only mode you can play, and not to mention the Easter eggs S U C K

[@lljw7151]

oh please people were complaining about how boring waves were getting and then when they change it up you guys hate it too... no real winning with you guys lol

[@kylelegarvier172]

@@lljw7151 ok maybe it's a bit true but this is a HUGE change and straight up HUGE steps back from the basics even its almost entirely justified to be hated

[@roguegamer1173]

Zombies has just fallen off for me since BO3. I was a fan going into BO3, and BO3 was such a hype period, but it’s just fallen off over the last half decade or so. It’s been half a decade. Half a decade and we haven’t even seen anything close to what we had in 2015 and 2016, hell even 2013. Blundell left Activision is in shambles. It’s safe to say for me, after this game I’m done.

[@zbrownbb]

Yea you’re not alone

[@phoenixvance6642]

Every year people say they're done "after this one"

[@OpticHamster69]

@@phoenixvance6642 well seeing how this game isn't even finished and Cold War was complete dogshit no point in wasting 80 a year on CoD

[@roguegamer1173]

@@phoenixvance6642 Unless they manage a 180 and make some god tier shooter and fire the fuck out of Bobby Kotick, I am.

[@joeh7824]

yeah, its sad to think that zombies is slowly dying because the devs are braindead. Remember when BO2 was out for a little bit and out of nowhere Mob of the Dead dropped and it became one of the greatest maps of all time? Never gonna see anything like that again. Cod will never 'wow' us again like that

[@jeremydees8669]

Honestly the main problem with vanguard is somehow in a zombie game they made killing zombies completely pointless. In earlier games you could spray into a crowd of zombies and get thousands of points and go hell yeah but now if you spray into a crowd of zombies you wouldn’t even have enough money to spin the mystery box. The entire economy is based on doing the objectives but they’re so mind numbingly bland that two of the objectives are just kill zombies and survive which was already the whole point of the game.

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

Maybe they should bring back the survival mode. Where it's you and some buddies against increasing enemies and stuff. They already put a juggernaut in this one, so...

[@xx-knight-xx2119]

My favorite thing about cold War zombies was there was always something to spend points on. You didn't get all your perks, open the map, and upgrade weapons and then just sit on 30,000 points until you went down and rebought everything. You could always get something new or some new upgrade.

[@ligmajohnson]

why is no one talking about how the map is literally just made up of maps from multiplayer and campaign

[@webbyoyster]

The hub area for the zombies map is gorod krovi from bo3 zombies and they took shi no numa from waw

[@bobinski2368]

@DURP16 but we loved veruckt and nacht 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@D3AL1O]

@@webbyoyster The hub is actually Red Star from multiplayer.

[@Not_MissHina]

Remember when CoD zombies was really scary, makes your heart pounding, shivering when you hear zombies screaming behind you, and jump scares sometimes, makes your adrenaline pumping? Yea, i didn't feel it anymore in this one

[@RSparrow3936]

I think I'd prefer to play call of duty infinite over this. I don't even touch vanguard, I play warzone and black ops

[@googlegoogle9712]

You remember the World at war days? Thats classic.

[@mace3lite432]

For me it’s not the scare, it’s the endless killing, intense training, round racing, guns blazing, perk drinking, box mashing, guns packing, and just having a good time playing zombies

[@lubricatednoodle8256]

feel like i just got older it wouldn't scare me the same anyway

[@SuperKamiGuru831]

Classic cod zombies is so nostalgic

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

Lets be honest for all the crap that people talk about CoD Ghost we have all got to admit that it's horde mode was really Original and unique.

[@yoyo18072]

Extinction was peak! Loved that, hell even Exo zombies was alot of fun.

[@eddiespall5651]

extinction was good because it was developed by neversoft. i miss neversoft.

[@kelvinsantiago7061]

@Joseph Stalin touche!.

[@andyperez6105]

I loved that alien mode 😢

[@vincentveryvile5051]

Extinction Mode was the only 4 player co op where they decided to go to the Cosmic Horror route instead of copying Treyarch's zombies. I was mad at it at first because I thought they were trying to be Halo, but it was much cooler when I found out they weren't aliens and something more Earthly than anything.

[@Red-fi1ty]

“Look at this Thompson.” That’s a Thompson?

[@terratheterribl]

"Seige, Fortify, you know I'm all about those words" Me who knows there hasn't been an Imperial Fists adeptus ridiculous episode: *interesting*

[@unklesterben]

It's because they have to get Primarch approval on Space Marine episodes, and as we all know, Rogal Dorn can't read.

[@PeachDragon_]

That's EXACTLY what i thought. Watch the next adeptus ridiculous episode be dorn.

[@jakenator7427]

Well they did do a perturabo episode

[@morgothastartes]

@@unklesterben So I guess I aint getting Blood Angels ever

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

@@morgothastartes now they’re adding more time until they release that episode since you mentioned them

[@can_can9119]

Cold War zombies was honestly a breath of fresh air. You can tell Treyarch truly tried to reinvent the wheel and give players a reason to grind zombies with upragadeable everything. For all its minor flaws the zombies wouldve been spectacular if it had the personality of the old VA and we all know it.

[@VainSick]

Go play Infinite warfare zombies if you want something unique and fresh, I skipped IW on release and went back last year to have probably the best 2 months of zombies since blops2 , it’s so unique, has some problems but was a blast. Also the Campaign was insanely good.

[@Suigeneris999]

Eh Cold War zombies to me felt like a sad attempt to keep aether going. In all honesty it’s just the aether storyline but with a different name and no memorable characters (oh wait that’s because they’re operators not characters). Maybe if they didn’t add chaos for bo4 and added it to Cold War then it would’ve been cool. But then again Jason blundell left so I guess the magic of zombies is gone.

[@WillyBeamin.]

It was until they stopped dropping content for it

[@snake1759]

@@VainSick So this was the only COD I never played on release, didn't pre-order, anything like that. Loved watching competitive and Zombies egg hunts for it and stuff like that, but really didn't want to buy it. I ended up getting a stitch to try the only Zombies mode I never played, and wow dude, I am blown away. Not even just with Zombies, but the Campaign, and even the multiplayer is leagues better than what we have today. I remember when it released how pissed people were. I remember people, including myself, hating on AW or IW, just to look back on it like "holy shit we were spoiled back then". Activision, and Activision alone, will dig COD's grave. There is a reason studios like Deviation Games exist now, and the root cause is Activision. But nothing will change since creators will make videos bashing COD, Warzone, or Activision, but then stream for 8 hours playing their game and making copious amounts of cash. As long as they keep seeing profit, Activision will change nothing.

[@kevmoful]

Cold War zombies might be my favorite of all time honestly. I miss survival mode

[@A.C_B.]

Would be nice if we could get more 25-40 dollar games that just focus on doing one thing really well. I really don't care for fps multiplayer, but a standalone zombies title might be interesting.

[@ethandasilva8227]

In theory, that sounds nice. But look at it from the company's perspective. Why make a game only for zombies for $25-$40 when people will buy the $80 that includes both zombies and multiplayer regardless of if they play multiplayer or not. It just doesn't make sense for them, they would be losing out on more money.

[@ghostsparta13]

Well look at back for blood im pretty sure that was a flop even before release and that was its own zombies game

[@theinfinity2994]

@@ghostsparta13 That’s not a good example considering that B4B and COD Zombies are completely different

[@wienerwarrior8381]

imagine a zombies type collection, with all the maps, that would be pretty cool.

[@Lordfakekick]

I’m 16 an spent my last 70 on dis shi

[@logantafoya8348]

Bricky: "I truly believe this is the worst CoD Zombies ever made." Black Ops Zombies for the DS: "Allow me to introduce myself."

[@DragonSan299]

The "Modern Warfare with a coat of paint" is too real. I legit thought for way too long that Cold War and Vanguard were expansions or DLC of Modern Warfare, not standalone games

[@deefour28]

They pretty much are just warzone expansions marketed as full release games but they aren't gonna put effort into it seeing as warzone is clearly their big money cow

[@brianb-t4v]

At least Cold War was on its own engine. Vanguard is literally in the same engine.

[@AmateurDomin8r]

@@brianb-t4v it’s the same one as bo4

[@DaBlaccGhost]

The funny part is 2019 MW was actually a good multi-player cod experience, they've somehow regressed by completely ruining years balance in cold war An aside didn't they JUST release a ww2 game?

[@Lost1ntheSauc3]

@@brianb-t4v Why does engine matter? Idk that you know what you're talking about lol. Should be grateful that Vanguard uses the same engine as MW because they spent multiple years developing the engine.

[@zachloszchuk1877]

Bro I love this guy. This my first video of him and he explains in detail why this game sucks ass. He put more effort in this video than Activision put into all of vanguard

[@frostedbear6853]

Welcome to the brick gang.

[@thewarriors2282]

Wow a guess Zack pack the punch to Activision

[@mugmod6435]

You gotta admire him the best effort’s for him is 100 percent chance is 0

[@samuelsmith5400]

What’s sad is that they really emphasized one of the “greatest zombies experiences in COD” and it’s literally just barebones, actually not even that it’s worse than barebones!!!

[@RainyCloudCore]

WAW Nacht is still so much better

[@Deathmare235]

Wait they did not like it has any meaning but really

[@Red-fi1ty]

Yes it is worse than barebones…there is no bones

[@Darksky1001able]

I miss OG zombies that had a mysterious story, multiple things and the girl thats a spirit, and the environments making you ask just what the fuck happened, the illuminati, fucking everything.

[@hoteltrivago.3034]

They’re too busy abusing their interns to actually make a good, working game by the absurd deadlines they create for themselves. Legitimately ashamed to admit I bought the game, because the trailer actually looked great.

[@chrisnotpratt1903]

*If* they do make another game or any game in general, it is best you wait for review videos first before buying the game. That's what I'm doing nowadays.

[@illucidate3749]

I knew the game was gonna be shit when they made a Hollow stock, sawed off M1

[@duttoHCGFL]

@John Doe they never do.

[@DD-hx8td]

I'll play your game Bricky and set for 25 minutes with a bottle of pepsi

[@activevertex4475]

Cold War Zombies taught me that innovating zombies was a great thing. Vanguard Zombies taught me that you can also completely misunderstand what that innovation was and why it worked.

[@GrayD_Fox]

“I’m gonna go play halo infinite, at least some company looks like they have a modicum of knowing what the fuck they’re doing” They did not and they played us even harder than Sledgehammer did.

[@axetheviking6482]

I personally liked the early stages of Cold War Zombies. Up until about Mauer der Toten's release, it felt like a somewhat believable sci-fi horror arms race thriller story, where the American government rushed to gain any sort of advantage over Omega group's advanced Dark Aether research.

[@PedroRodrigues-je6xp]

13:50 vermintide 2 did ranged enemies pretty well The rat-tlingunner makes clunky sounds letting you know roughly where they are. Then, they are extremely frail and you can have a shield to block all dmg

[@veronicatazri9092]

I second this In addition they're very inaccurate, have trouble turning while firing and can friendly fire other swarming Skaven (theres even a challenge reward to making them kill a certain amount of enemies)

[@parallaxishappy7492]

I honestly think Vermintide 2 is so underrated. Sure the online needs more polish but you can feel the passion in that dev team and the game is so fun and has some decently high replay value.

[@CollinandBri]

Vermintide 2 has one major problem which is the loot system. That’s also my biggest fear for Darktide. There doesn’t really need to be as in depth and grindy of a loot system as they have now. Just give us load outs we can upgrade

[@parallaxishappy7492]

@@CollinandBri Personally I think think loot system becomes kind of useless when you play a lot. You can get to a point were gear you get doesn't matter because you can create and fully upgrade any weapon to your liking. Red weapons are a thing, and there the main goal for people who want God tier builds but they are not as significant as people think.

[@PedroRodrigues-je6xp]

@@CollinandBri yea, it's really complicated if we think about it. On one hand we want to be rewarded with the unlockment of high quality items and different builds, on the other, it is a grind

[@Sweet_V1v]

Honestly, if they made a Zombies Mode for Halo Infinite with the Flood, and if they did well with it, I'm sure a lot of people would play the fuck out of it. Given the fact that Halo and CoD have always had that sort of "rivalry" for spot as best FPS, it could be a chance to deal a HUGE blow to Activision and CoD as a whole and hopefully kick them enough to where they finally start to get their shit together

[@2_r_a_w_]

I'd play that low key the flood was always my favourite faction in halo

[@shoto42]

Vanguard sales alone should be enough to tell Activision and all its studios to start actually trying, and with the whole Microsoft buyout, they now have another chance to make a good game. I have hope that MW2 will be better, I always have hope that a game can be good but usually that hope is ripped from me.

[@Khronik_]

Well we got floodfight now sooooooo

[@whymiss3312]

Yeah just got off the phone with the devs of halo infinite they said they just have to sell a few more 20 dollar skins and then they will release halo flood in 3 years and forge and co op multiplayer will be in 5. 🤡

[@Sonichero151]

FFS *HALO ALREADY HAD A GODDAMN WAVE BASED ARCADE MODE* It would be so fucking easy to turn that into a vod zombies like with the Flood...... why is that not happening......

[@anamusingidiot2565]

When we complained that menus made it hard to buy stuff in a pinch, this is NOT what we fucking wanted.

[@grimmlight4541]

The idea that you have a SP game you can't pause shows just how bad games are becoming.

[@boltogen5416]

The fact that game devs are finding a feature that even VCRs have being too much work to implement is absurd

[@ianodonnell5552]

Not only that, you get kicked if you need to do something and don’t move for five minutes, when you’re alone!!

[@malachiswedberg8367]

Damn, I didn't think it could get worse after cold war zombies. The team has clearly lost all ambition and drive to create the masterpieces of maps that they used to.

[@elvispresley3327]

Remember it's a sledgehammer game treyarch was only given a short amount of time to make this mode

[@malachiswedberg8367]

@@elvispresley3327 yeah, that doesn't forgive the failure of zombies installments that was cold war though.

[@lego007guym8]

@@malachiswedberg8367 Cold War zombies was really good though. Vanguard is totally shit though.

[@malachiswedberg8367]

@@lego007guym8 HARD disagree. Cold war zombies had alright gameplay but was just trying to appeal to mass audience and lost the phenomenal Easter eggs, characters, story line, and map design. Cold wars insteresting gameplay design was completely wasted on bland, unambitious maps with the simplest Easter eggs in history, played with not even the worst zombies characters because there weren't even any characters lmao.

[@lego007guym8]

@@malachiswedberg8367 The reason they made the Easter eggs easier was too draw even more people into the games. I mean, look at me. I had absolutely no interest in Zombies before Cold War but now I'm honestly kinda obsessed. I'm even going to go back to the older games and try out those Easter eggs as well. As for the writing, considering all the context of what's happening to Activision in general now, we should be glad we got a decent coherent plot at all. Mostly because I doubt we're gonna get another anywhere as good.

[@usxldcom7543]

"What if we took everything people maybe liked about Cold War zombies and just took all of that out" "Genius"

[@BA_115]

I played it and mannnn. Believe me i said out loud “ i would rather play extinction on ghost “ and i fucking did

[@SolarBoy204]

Extinction is actually really fun

[@BA_115]

@@SolarBoy204 That’s what i’m saying. Smh people slept on ghost harddd

[@ImCarpet]

Something to mention is that Jason Blundell, the old director of the zombies mode is working at his own studio now. I hope his team is going to make something similar to CoD zombies, but a full game.

[@surelyfyre9258]

You want a pretty decent endless wave based “zombie” killing game? Try killing floor two’s endless mode

[@jaidenhicks2186]

Wack.

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

@@jaidenhicks2186 How so?

[@jaidenhicks2186]

@@theguylivinginyourwalls never actually played it. Trolling, loved the first one.

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

@@jaidenhicks2186 Ah. Gotcha. It's on PC right?

[@jaidenhicks2186]

@@theguylivinginyourwalls sure is. Look it up on steam.

[@cheeseypotato1134]

In my opinion the Cold War zombies was okay, it got really good closer to the end. Outbreak was a cool idea and I believe people give Cold War zombies a lot of shit because it's not the classic zombies experience. Having round based maps and Outbreak was a great idea cause there is something for everyone.

[@brendanpalmer4348]

Yeah I personally like outbreak alot but I wish they kept updating and bringing all the old maps with each game so if you want round based we had some good maps

[@ElMarcoHoJ]

I really enjoy Outbreak

[@FemkjeMW]

It was mt first zombies i really enjoyed it allot with friends i mean they liked bo3 best but to me i though cold war was really fun because i enjoy the grind and skins but after a while i kinda started doing other things i just played it a bit too much maybe one day

[@vazquezmoralesgildardo9386]

Agree.

[@heyitsmushu7393]

I am normally a BO1-BO3 elitest, but cold war was actually genuinely phenomenal. Giving you the option to have a knife as your weapon of choice and have it actually be useful at very high rounds was a really fun concept to fiddle with. It was insanely expensive and you had to get either really lucky or play very much economically to stay up with the wave.

[@LiilJiimmii]

@15:53 i agree. I think weapon rarity is a great thing. I always hated that there used to be like only a handful of guns there were viable past round 30. But the rarity system allows the player to be able to use literally any gun they like and actually play with it up to whatever round they want. I always liked shotguns in zombies but they were always shit after 20/25. In CW zombs I just run around with my Hauer and I can't be stopped. Sometimes I'll grab a second gun if I'm feeling sexy but for the most part I'm running through all enemies with just my shotty.

[@jacobjensen9871]

DANG. Never thought I'd hear Bricky give something such a total death sentence. If he can't find any redeeming qualities in a product that's a REAL bad sign.

[@itsJohnnyArsenic]

When you said youd rather play the burgertown map instead, i cried a little because I totally agree

[@richiek1155]

You can see and feel the games feel more and more hollow with each game. From a game full of constant. Story’s that makes you feel emotions and have tons of stuff and make you grind and work for stuff. And now it’s just empty. You can feel it get empty over time. Take like modern warfare the original and then Cold War or even the new modern warfare. I think the little bit less polish on the games and the simpler market back then made the games feel more full. There artist that lost there drive to creat and now just do it to get a pay check each month. Truly sad to see this giant of a franchise fall from the inside out

[@DonnyMesa]

So they looked at outbreak and said "yes, this is the future of zombies", then proceeded to rip a huge line and absolutely demolish the shit out of this game mode by replacing it with a somewhat ok game mode from cold war. This is the peak of their creative genius and I am absolutely blown away that all they could do was make a rehashed zombies that's kid friendly. Wow

[@ShadowTheSanta]

I feel like the soul of the series is just gone, it has been completly snuffed out and replaced by corporate greed. As a possible future game developer I see inspiration for storys and gameplay from the older zombie titles, from the new ones I've learned what NOT to do so hey that's the first positive thing I have to say about Vanguard.

[@Lordfakekick]

War zone is the new zombies to them. They don’t care

[@malnuxtherestless7196]

I legitmately SLAMMED my fucking desk when I heard there was no pack-a-punch camo, everything else was already bad, but holy shit how can you desecrate the fundamentals to that degree.

[@boltogen5416]

It makes no sense, cause it literally doesn’t take any effort to do at all. All you have to do is just slap a texture jpeg and that was apparently that was too much work for them

[@naedanger123]

Makes me miss one thing about WW2 Zombies, where you could choose whether to keep the gun's original look or give it the sick PAP camo. I'll admit sometimes I'm in the mood just to keep the gun looking the same, but just give everyone the option, how hard could it really be?

[@-VaLaK]

Literally SLAMMED your desk? Dude, that's pathetic. Although.......I suppose your desk wont hit you back, if you know what I mean 🤷

[@TylersRapPromo]

This man even went into depth of the economics of zombies lol someone give this man a award

[@NomadWhy2]

Vanguard: this is the worst zombies! Modern Warfare 3: the worst zombies *so far*

[@Pranaynaynay]

Bricky going through the stuff he believes sounded like he was running for political office lol

[@wgreenewgreene1022]

I'd vote for him

[@Cthulhuwarlord]

Make call of duty and warhammer great again

[@SomeCrusader]

"Vote for me if you hate shit games!"

[@socksleeve]

I'm just glad the Infinite multiplayer kicks so much ass, it's been a blessing

[@PeachDragon_]

I love how they never learn. Everytime they tried to make zombies complicated it never worked. So why would it work now?

[@failtronic2646]

People still bought it, so it worked for them. The problem isn't actually the fact that they tried to make a complicated zombies, it's they tried to make a complicated zombies in 1 year because they want more money that they don't need.

[@Brian-tn4cd]

Bo3 is quite complicated and people like that, IW and WW2 remained as complicated as that and are decent/great at what they were going for, but people didn't even bother to try them, define "complicated"

[@failtronic2646]

@@Brian-tn4cd As in, more complex than previous iterations. Trying to be original and add many more mechanics to an actually pretty simple game.

[@FecalMatador]

i played MW2 and MW3. I enjoyed those. They didn’t have zombies. They had spec ops which was so fun on Survival. It was its own thing. Infinite Warfare tried reinventing the mold into something people didn’t want from Infinity Ward. I can’t speak on WW2 as I didn’t play it tho, but I heard the MP was pretty good.

[@mariosmatzoros3553]

Bo3 had complicated zombies and it was the most successful zombie game...

[@foxfox8665]

I know this is two years old, but: “There’s a market for horde style shooters with interesting mechanics” **Queue the Democracy Horns**

[@StreetsNeedIt]

The problem with this version of zombies is you never feel like your in danger. It takes like a full hour to feel any challenge at all if you play solo. One time I had to stop playing two hours in because otherwise I would have been sitting there forever. I think if you successfully exfil you should restart where you left off. I don’t understand the point of exfil,you don’t get rewarded you might at well just leave the game.

[@dropbearattack6152]

There is one thing that you didn’t touch on in this. It’s easy. It is painfully easy. You are spoonfed weapons, ammo and armour to the point that once you max the perks in the game which takes 25 minutes you don’t even need to reload. You don’t ever run out of ammo because there are so many ammo drops it isn’t even an afterthought. You hold the trigger and just stand in a spot and mow down the horde in an objective. In a 3 hour play through I didn’t once get even close to being downed. It was so boring we didn’t even bother exfil. We just turned it off.

[@ket451]

Ouch n' I thought cw zombies was bad

[@Jugggernaawwt]

@@ket451 at least cold war zombies had some fun in it

[@guyonagravitronmachinestan7595]

@@ket451 CW zombies was good with gameplay and content, and bad with identity, storyline, etc. Vanguard is bad at everything.

[@spiderguy7620]

How is that bad?

[@guyonagravitronmachinestan7595]

@@spiderguy7620 catering a game to new, inexperienced players can have bad results for longtime fans and players because the game is too easy and not challenging enough to hold their attention. CoD has slowly increased its catering to noobs over the course of its last 3 titles, and on Vanguard it's worse than ever.

[@NanoTSTJ]

As someone who came off the high of Cold War zombies, something that I actually really really loved despite its flaws and that I actually do consider my favorite zombies mode in CoD at this point, I was unironically incredibly excited for what Vanguard Zombies could be. They had the Cold War system to build off of, they had Treyarch lending itself to them, they had all the feedback in the world as to what did and didn't work in Cold War and what direction to take. Despite that, for some odd reason, they just proceeded to throw literally everything away and build on the least popular mode, strip away every system introduced in Cold War, and ignore any and all feedback about what fans want in some desperate attempt to remake the wheel. I just don't at all understand what they were thinking when they made this, if they were at all.

[@FecalMatador]

3arc had barely any time to throw this shit together because of how bad sledgehammer fucked up

[@Koolaidbloke]

@@FecalMatador sledgehammer I think you mean tryarch the only reason we’re in this mess is because bo4 was shitty don’t blame sledgehammer because tryarch made a shit game

[@xNemesis_]

@@Koolaidbloke nah he is right, BO4 Zombies at launch was bad then it was meh. But sledgehammer idk what they are doing, Treyarch had to literally took their project (project that SH and Raven worked on it) to make Cold War when it wasn't their idea. They had to make this atrocity. Yes Treyarch is doing some weird qhit since BO4 but when you cat catch a break because you have a studio like SH that you have to constantly help well YEAH it leads to Vanguard zombies

[@Koolaidbloke]

@@xNemesis_ tryarch took the campaign for bocw and made it there own characters and then tryarch took over the multiplayer and all that shit and sledgehammer knows how to make a good game they just need time like everything else and they didn’t get the time they needed

[@xNemesis_]

@@Koolaidbloke you can check the reports, they took what SH and Raven did because they can't act like adults and built it from there. It's like asking to a new creative director to builld a game from another creative who left, that task is nearly impossible. All i'm seeing is Infinity ward and Treyarch were capable to put good Cods in short amount of times and with stupid crunch even tho both had some bad cods since PS4 (except MW19). Sledgehammer always was the weakest compared to the other 2, financially and community wise. They should just put SH as a support studio, give more times to 3arc and IW and give a shot to Raven. After that long time support i think they deserve it but Activision has the last word

[@Field_Marshal_Emu]

Zombie with zero higher order brain function manages to co-ordinate precise muscular function to effectively fire a weapon.

[@vaulthunterfromterra4053]

In an alternate dimension, all 3 studios work on every game together. Each being in charge of the 3 facets of gameplay: Story Mode, Zombies/Survival, & PvP/Co-Op. Graphics & functionality would be universal for each studio.

[@Yomom12388]

And in that alternate dimension, this new Call of Duty game only comes out every couple years once the whole game is completed. Everyone is happy because they were able to get their full mileage out of the previous game, they don’t feel like they literally wasted their money if there was a cool blueprint they decided to splurge on, and nobody is entirely fatigued of the franchise as a whole. Man, wouldn’t that be nice.

[@domhopper7402]

I’m surprised that you didn’t mention the fact that Pack-A-Punch and the perk machines go hand-in-hand with each other and they just nuked the perk machines from existence, replacing them with completely different things, then keeping Pack-A-Punch.

[@josephs.3372]

Touch grass

[@big.gib.4L]

"Hey, they really liked what we did with the last zombies mode" "Yeah fuck that, make it nearly unplayable"

[@mindofmantae8288]

“Pass me my lucky crack pipe. I got a sweet tooth for some free base”

[@lukemimnagh2594]

WaW-BO4 are the peak zombies games. (BO4 is actually good compared to Cold War and then practically BO3 compared to Vanguard Zombies.)

[@L0ne_Phoenix]

22:27 I love how he shoots down a zero with a frickin 1911. Totally real - miss with the mg, but hit with a pistol.

[@DiagonalByte]

I remember reading about that happening irl once.

[@HazagyShuji]

What I’ve seen so far: -reskin of MW -reskin of CW Yeah no, that’s about it Edit: got into the video a little bit more, and some of these things actually sound like fun if done right. For example, the zombie with a mini gun. If done right (like in Zombie Army), the challenge could be rewarding or just fun to do

[@MetalxLicaxPP]

It isn't rewarding nor fun, trust me. The gun zombie does basically no damage, you get no reward for killing them, and they're pretty tanky unless you're using an upgraded shotgun.

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@MetalxLicaxPP Could it be fun if they made it more challenging and more of a boss figure? Something that you go "oh sh!t" when you see it and need to use up a lot of resources or map knowledge to deal with? Or is it just so antithetical to CoD Zombies that it can't fit in?

[@MetalxLicaxPP]

@@haruhirogrimgar6047 Definitely could work if it was a boss figure that you rarely saw and actually gave you a challenge. I don't think there's a point to it, though, since the rest of the mode is so empty anyway.

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

@@MetalxLicaxPP they could just make it like the margwas in revelations where they don't show up often but for the more average players it gives a real "oh shit" moment.

[@0lionheart]

"It's like watching your favourite thing just get abused by people who have no idea what the hell they're doing" don't worry you grow numb to the pain. Alien, Fallout, Rainbow Six.. most of my favourite series have become absolute mockeries of what they originally stood for.

[@dominicscreativefilms]

Agreed. it's honestly killing my love for the hobby and it's causing me to develop trust issues. I just can't tell if a game can be good or not anymore, and even when it is, it usually not as good as maybe the older games from that series.

[@MetalxLicaxPP]

I was gonna say Skyrim xD

[@edivh_stories7287]

Nah Alien isolation was pretty cool

[@trashynecromancer1155]

"Zombies are worth less and Objectives are with more." god sounds like Warhammer-

[@adrianofreitas2101]

I love coming back to this video and see bricky shitting on vanguard all over again, jolly great fun

[@aunthaggis8856]

This actually hurt seeing what they did to the mode

[@MrBuurh]

The problem with this zombies is we've played it all before in Outbreak... & that was a miles better experience & even that wasn't great! This is just Outbreak but with worse gameplay, worse map, worse objectives! I could go on! Nobody wants to do the same 3 objectives over & over & over again! It's so mind numbingly boring! & the best part is 2 of the 3 objectives you don't even have to kill any zombies to complete them 😂 When they first announced Cold War zombies I was skeptical but it turned out to be one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had on zombies, was easy for newer players to understand, the maps weren't amazing but they were enjoyable & had replay value! This zombies you play it once & you're done with it forever! I can't believe they made all these small improvements in Cold War zombies just to ruin them in Vanguard! The gamemode is a complete mess! No zombies youtubers wanna touch it, no casuals wanna play it, it's embarrassing! & not only that the map is just multiplayer maps it's not even original maps 😂😂 they should have just done a zombies chronicles 2 for Cold War & left out a third game mode or made it spec ops like MW2. Hopefully it gets better as time goes on but from what I've seen from leaks it's not getting any better which is a shame because I loved zombies in BO3 & Cold War.

[@GPmayne]

seriously? cold war? I played the beta and it was one of the most non call of duty things i've ever played lmao. Cold War is so fking boring and the health bars? Are we trying to make a COD zombies a fking RPG?

[@ringoshintaro]

I bought Cold War a few days ago because of the Black Friday Sale and I've been having an absolute blast with it. Although it's not the best zombies game (Bo3 is my favorite), I've had tons of fun with it. Although the maps aren't that great, I've had most of my fun with Outbreak and Firebase Z. It has fun movement mechanics and I can't help but love the der wunderfizz, along with its amazing customizations with weapons and progression systems. Vanguard on the other hand... Haven't played it, but from all its criticisms, I don't want to touch it lmao.

[@azaril7780]

The problem is, they will never make a zombies mode as good as bo3 or bo2 for that matter, not unless they really put their heart into it, Wich won't happen and if they are given enough time to dedicate to making it good, once a cod game comes out, they should put the updates and dlc in the hands of a cod company not involved with the next game so the devs can focus all their time and effort on making the cod game we know that they can, cause they've done it before.

[@MrBuurh]

@@GPmayne Zombies wasn't available in the beta? I'm talking specifically zombies not multiplayer! I never said Cold War was this GOATED game but it was enjoyable & was fun for what it was! Not like this zombies which is absolutely abysmal! It's not even zombies it's just bits of shit thrown together & that's it!

[@jxsiah-msc]

Ok so grinding out the same 3 objectives is boring… isn’t simply holding out wave after wave kinda the same thing? That also gets boring to me unless there’s an Easter egg involved.

[@saintpoli6800]

I actually enjoyed WW2 zombies for a mindless type of thing. Plus the spooky attempt was cute

[@bijuutamer729]

WW2 zombies is pretty underrated if you ask me. I think it comes closes to capturing the type of feel that was unique to Veruckt.

[@excalibur493]

Agreed. Final Reich and that house map was pretty fun for me.

[@andyperez6105]

The german speaking zombies deff creeped me out, was a nice touch

[@artyomsaveli9681]

It feels like every attempt Sledgehammer makes on a Zombie mode is just them trying to bake a cake, but they ended up making sugar cookies out of the batter, with cheese and salsa on top for some reason. It barely even nails the basics while bloating it with all this unneeded stuff.

[@DarthShadow25]

If there was a polished zombie game that was effectively just reskinned BO2/3 with clear passion and creativity behind the project I would buy it in a heartbeat.

[@captaincaffeine]

"things that you love being abused by people who dont know what the fuck they are doing" -Mass Effect -Need for Speed -CoD -Battlefield -Battlefront -GTA -Fallout The heydays of gaming are gone

[@Basisreallycool]

Where's assassin's creed

[@Lynch2507]

@@Basisreallycool the games just changed. Origins through Valhalla all have issues themselves, but to say they're on the same level as Fallout 76, Vanguard, Andromeda, 2042 or GTA remastered is disingenuous.

[@Basisreallycool]

@@Lynch2507 well considering CoDs up there... Assassin's Creed is pretty much the same.

[@alastor8091]

@@Lynch2507 lmao no. They've fallen from grace just the same. Every franchise is worse now. They may not be as AS bad, but they're still nothing like the good entries.

[@spimpsmacker6422]

I'm very certain that zombies was merely an afterthought that was hastily rushed at the end stages of development. Nothing about this mode looks even remotely thought-out or enthusiastic. It's almost like Activision's employee abuse was what led to this game-mode being so unpolished and underdeveloped.

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

It's come full circle from waw lol

[@spimpsmacker6422]

@@SnailSnail-lo4pm Meh, you could argue Nacht had at least some sense of system.

[@SnailSnail-lo4pm]

@@spimpsmacker6422 I'm just saying it was kinda unpolished bc it was just a random one off mode. It had glitch spots and the possibility for infinite rounds and it was really bare bones with almost nothing. Don't get me wrong it's still good but it's unpolished and underdeveloped

[@chrisupton6190]

12:49 The mini gun gun basically is only able to be dealt with wolfenstein 3D style, shoot at it, duck in cover till it stops shooting, repeat

[@terrytwotoes3225]

I honestly can't believe how horrible zombies has gotten. I never even bought the game and I hate it

[@samuelrecendez9260]

You can't judge a game you haven't played

[@terrytwotoes3225]

@@samuelrecendez9260 actually I can and I did

[@samuelrecendez9260]

@@terrytwotoes3225 Understandable, have a nice day

[@biggiewiggie5557]

Considering this has been the straw that's breaking the camel's back of the Zombies for a lot of people, even content creators, I didnt think it was this atrocious...

[@Bigtaffy6_9]

3:25 is the biggest insult you could give a zombies map

[@vicjctanuki7344]

Hello from 2024, This is where I first got put on to your channel. Loved your killing floor vides.

[@Smique4542]

I had this video on the background while I was doing the other things and I had to stop whatever I was doing and open up the video to see that you were not BS'ing here even as a joke. This right here makes me cry. I heard things here and there that the new CoD game messed up the Zombies, but I didn't expect it to be this bad. Thank you for showing the footage as well and not just talking even tho seeing the changes hurt more.

[@soyboyiii8771]

My biggest question is why does zombies need a minimap like that's just unnecessary

[@BrotherVoidBomber]

We are seeing the beginning of the end as you said. Honestly after MW3 it went downhead, however I do think people got too much wrong about ghosts and infinite warfare compared to what came after (not counting zombies for BO3) was slim picking. Especially after COD WW2 I knew it was over. Bad/blizzard's blueprint to using the least amount of work for a product was complete.

[@Upsetkiller456]

MW2 killed it.

[@Upsetkiller456]

By kill I mean doomed

[@FecalMatador]

Ghosts/Infinite Warfare MP < Bo3/Bo4/Cold War/MW2019

[@Lorefunder]

I think we just got spoiled by Ultimus and Primus too much and the bar is so insurmountable for playable characters lol I love my goofballs

[@loganb7059]

11:12 I wasn’t prepared for this and I’ve been laughing for a good 5 minutes send help.

[@troyherrmann235]

"LIFE HAS MENY DOORS ED BOY" died to that one tbh

[@infinitydogex6665]

19:43 destructive finish