Code Foils

[@joebenjamin6139]

Thanks for the good info- it all keeps gettin better!

[@nwkitesurfer]

Look like absolute weapons. 💥

[@foilsurfmachines]

yes they are, Jacky already ripped her canopy.

[@nwkitesurfer]

@@foilsurfmachines oh wow! Been there

[@mikesiddells3211]

What do you particularly like about them ? Code certainly seem to be on a roll currently !

[@foilsurfmachines]

Lots of fast glide and pump. The speed coming out of jibes is the highest I’ve experienced. The take-off is super easy, like a wing 18mm thick, but they are 12-13 thick. Kind of mind blowing. Really low stall speed. Surfs great. Very pitch stable. Zero hobby horse. Stiff mast. Light.

[@obx_foiler]

Have you demo'd the AFS Silk by chance? I demo'd the Code 850S and found it way too pitchy. Demo'd the 850 Silk and it felt really good. Probably 2 months between rides and similar conditions, 4.5m Wing but different boards. Maybe something was off that day.

[@foilsurfmachines]

I’m using the long fuse. Prone surfers and kids tend to use shorter fuselages and that makes them all pitchy, regardless of brand. The Code long fuse is pretty long. Mike’s Lab foils run long fuses too. Foils this fast and thin, I think excel with longer fuses. I’m 70 years old, so I’m very sensitive to stable pitch. The Code is like a rock. So easy. I have not demoed the AFS Silk, but did just listen to the mediocre podcast, where they talked about it. The guy had major quality issues with it. So glad I didn’t go that route.

[@foilsurfmachines]

Regarding something being off with the setup, that is a whole can of worms. There are so many wingers riding foils and boards not compatible or tuned right. The issue is board rockers matching modern foils, versus old foils. Thinner, faster foils, need this really dialed to the boards rocker or lack of rocker. This is why Armstrong masts come with a built in one degree base plate angle and most brands offer base plate shim CAD files for printing. Code offers these files.

[@obx_foiler]

I was on a 62.5L Appletree Jazz. The water was pretty rough that day and turbulent water. End of November and very cold. I wish I could have another go on it and try a different fuse/tail combo.

[@ricopo3522]

I'm on axis, ride mostly spitfire, 900 and 960 when lighter. I'm taking a hard look at code. I'm 95kg. Want an all around for winging surf, free ride and capable DW/down-winger occasional prone. The rave reviews make R series tempting, but thinking an 850S w/ 150 ar fuse seems the safe bet. You have any opinions? Is the 850S a capable downwinder in good 25+ conditions? Thanks!

[@foilsurfmachines]

I haven’t ridden the Spitfire. I’ve only ridden the HPS and ARTs. Convert Axis to Code using span, not area. The S has lots of glide and pump. I have not ridden the R because I’m not into SUP downwinding. I’m not sure I’d go R for wing because the S is so good at everything. I’d start with the 980s. It would likely replace your 900 and 960 with just that one. The range is crazy good.

[@ricopo3522]

@@foilsurfmachines appreciate the feedback!

[@oskarhansson3744]

Dwight could you share your typical wind conditions and your weight? Thanks

[@foilsurfmachines]

85kg wind 10-20 most often.

[@oskarhansson3744]

Thanks

[@joebenjamin6139]

OK Dwight lets have some more information and detail on how they work here-JoeB

[@foilsurfmachines]

We’ve totally converted and sold off most of our old gear. So I went into this looking for a stiffer mast, and more glide and pump. The contenders were SK8/7seas or Code foils. I could not get the local shop to demo any of the F-ones. I took a chance on Code, thinking it’s the hot new thing, and should sell easier if we didn’t like it. I ruled out the new Armstrong HA, because my buddy said it hobby horses. My pet peeve. Same with UNI. I demoed it. Hobby horsing. The Code has zero hobby horse. Some call this great pitch stability. The speed and glide is so extreme, your wing handling needs to be top notch, or you’ll body slam the sail going mach 1 through the jibe. So fun. It should be killer surfing down wind in the Gorge this summer. The sick thing….it takes flight nearly as easy as a beginner foil. No joke. How is this possible in a foil only 12mm thick? that is Mike’s Lab thin!

[@cosmecaballero5601]

@@foilsurfmachines Converted to code few months ago. Havent looked back. No other foils Ive tried are as stable through their speed range as code.

[@foilsurfmachines]

@@cosmecaballero5601 so true. They also act immune to turbulent water.

[@sikguystg]

What do you mean by hobby horse?

[@foilsurfmachines]

@@sikguystg Also called porpoising by some. Minor rocking in pitch caused by running at high speed, just under a choppy surface. So slight, you feel it through your legs, but it cannot be seen to the eye.

[@briansangeorzan4986]

So, you sold all your GoFoil?

[@foilsurfmachines]

yes

[@shanestimac4340]

What made you switch?

[@foilsurfmachines]

Mast flex

[@shanestimac4340]

What are the symptoms of mast flex?

[@foilsurfmachines]

@@shanestimac4340 delay in turns. Random wobbles. The best way to feel mast flex with any mast (different masts flex differently) is to install a very wide span front wing to trigger it. Then you’ll experience flex at the extreme, then you will recognize the flex feel with smaller foils. It’s easy for someone to have issues, but think it is them and not understand it’s mast flex. So doing this wide span front wing test is very educational. I learned so much back in the days when I was testing Axis prototype masts and wide span wings.