Worst Thing About Western Governors University - WGU update - 6 weeks in

6 weeks into the term. 7 classes down. I've now repeatedly encountered what may be the most frustrating thing I've had to deal with in any school I've attended. It's the kind of problem that could be a dealbreaker for some people considering attending WGU.
Edit 5/24/2019:
I've gone back to look into several of the error reports I made to zybooks. To their credit, they have actually made corrections to some of the errors I reported to them. Others, including the one I showed in the video, are still there.

[@Uwek212]

You are a huge motivation! I'm in the BSCS program, and I finished three classes in one week like you. I'm committed to finish the program in one term. I watch your videos whenever I'm feeling demotivated ^-^

[@kimconroy9535]

I can tell you're tired and you're brilliant. I'm looking to go for Accounting and your video is awesome. However, I'm a little scared.

[@tasnimhaque6645]

I am planning to start on JAN 1st. My major is accounting as well!

[@novadhd]

Man I wish I had your dedication when I was in school! Good luck.

[@billeecraddock4555]

Thanks for the video. I am planning on going to WGU soon, still studying for the SAT, very helpful info.

[@felinefurreal8730]

You don’t need SAT to enroll in WGU

[@kurrwa]

@@felinefurreal8730 are they taking anyone?

[@felinefurreal8730]

@@kurrwa what do you mean?? I am not for my masters they looked at my bachelors transcript

[@kurrwa]

@@felinefurreal8730 I mean you don't need SAT to enroll it sounds to me like they take almost anyone. I'm interested in school os just looking for information to be sure if is it good choice

[@felinefurreal8730]

@@kurrwa i am doing my MSiT and I think its a good school, it's more hands on. Mentors are always in touch with yiu. Best thing would be you set up a call with the advicer and get information from.them.

[@MichaelBrown-gt4qi]

I think I see the confusion in the question about the 4 way cache. It's not clear from the question but from the response from the incorrect comment it seems they want to know the necessary size of the multiplexer. A 4 way 32 word cache would require a 8 to 1 multiplexer. Thus, the correct answer should be 8. So, I can understand why they would drag their feet on changing this answer. However, this highlights an even bigger problem with question clarification. Or the lack thereof in this situation. Good video and thanks a lot for putting this out there.

[@Lukesp00k89]

Awesome video, il make sure to prepare for that going forward. Glad to hear it's more up to date than I've heard as well!

[@justincook534]

Thank you very much for posting This. Extremely Helpful.

[@NefariousElasticity]

Every IT course I've taken with WGU so far has had little "moments" like these in the textbooks. I'm glad I went into my degree knowing most of what I would be learning in those IT courses already, because if I didn't, I would likely make myself look like a total idiot in front of future coworkers. The tradeoff of being able to blow through content as fast as you can is definitely worth it to me, though, like you said. I completed 10 courses in my last term, and I'm looking to get at least 8 done in my current one.

[@Frissdas1207]

Only 10? Wtf were you doing? Typing with your toes?

[@MrUnknown0013]

Super Informative thanks for the info. Looking forward to more updates.

[@Dream25_]

I've noticed some questions wrong like that before but nothing really major, but I just finished taking ITIL v4 and the test literally referenced materials that weren't in the book at all, I remembered some context from the questions and did a Ctrl + F on every page of the course material and it wasn't there.

[@jvolstad]

I'm a Math Major, and between using Zoom and Aleks, I see little need for classes on campus.

[@pardboiled]

I'm a bit ahead of you, but you're on a better pace than me. Nice work. Sloppy mistakes in Zybooks or otherwise poorly presented content is so demoralizing; easily the #1 impediment to my progress. I'm a bit quicker now to cross-check (or flat-out replace) WGU's content with outside material, especially when I get that feeling like "Wait, I've been here before...".

[@codeBueno]

I definitely spend too much time on the errors when I encounter them.

[@jaytea23]

Thanks for the heads up on those errors! I was wondering how you are flying through the material so quick. 8-10 hours a day is definitely going to help haha. I’m curious if you do that every single day or not. Also, what are you focusing on when you are studying? Thanks!

[@codeBueno]

Yeah it's not so much flying through it as it is putting in a huge amount of time every week. 8-10/day is a weekly average. It's often 12-16 in a given day to make up for other days where it's more like 4-6.

[@Michael-ws2yp]

Yeahh, I can see the frustration. I've encountered the same things in ASU, when they made their own mathematics online homework system. It would mark wrong correct statements, and then would display the correct answer, and it would be exactly what you've input previously. This is a very common problem in online homework/learning systems unfortunately.

[@markgardner1241]

I took a math course at a local university that had a similar annoying online test program. It would literally repeat exactly what you typed as the correct answer, yet it would claim you were incorrect. Luckily it was in person so the teacher would roll his eyes and correct it on the final grade. Online would be extremely frustrating though.

[@techmaster242]

I think the answer for #2 is 8 and #4 is Mem[21]. Maybe the book was just confusing, and they didn't do a good job of explaining how it works. Their example of 4 and 4 was bad, because it makes you think that there's an association between the two numbers. And their example with variables, instead of n and n, they should have called them something like x and y, so you realize they're not the same number, but they can be.

[@takingbackprofits1280]

I'm planning on starting in September for a masters degree in IT management, so hopefully it's a good decision. I don't think I'd be as calm as you about errors like that. I would definitely let them have it. They are a professional institution of higher learning, if they can't get the material right, they need to take a good hard look at themselves.

[@mohamedyagoub314]

How's it going so far

[@Roccatansky]

I'm looking to startthe IT mgmt program in July..How has your experience been so far?

[@husinneelove1766]

you finish the masters?

[@takingbackprofits1280]

@@husinneelove1766 Lol nope, decided to try to become debt free instead of taking out more loans.

[@coreybarton1085]

Is the computer architecture a class to study added to computer science or is this a completely different course?

[@stephenbraudo2766]

I am about to start the CS course as well in about 2 months. I was curious if you have hit the Software development class yet and does it teach a good amount of programming. I was worried this degree was super theoretical based instead of project based and applied practice. Side note, thanks for the videos. I have been trying to found out detail on what the degree is like and have found very little on it.

[@inspisiavideos8542]

Hey I just started this December with Cybersecurity as major. I'm about to take my first test. Please if you have any tip let me know.

[@davis.kevin82]

Thank you for all this info!

[@KJ7JHN]

That complacency in software or other is one of my fingernails on the chalkboard pangs. When you have a fine tuned car, those hiccups are what bring down planes. Thank you for this video.

[@TheProfesionalGamerGGN]

ive noticed that with some material...ive reported and asked about that...i heard their trying to go with only one vendor now...very frustrating but ill be done in the summer..still may go ahead and get my masters...

[@FrancoNepomuceno]

Going for my MBA... to those people who graduated from WGU, do you consider yourselves as competitive as the ones who graduated from a brick and mortar school?

[@thechillmaster5836]

Most employers don't care how you got ur degree with exceptions like a doctor of course

[@mohamedyagoub314]

How's it going so far

[@FrancoNepomuceno]

@@mohamedyagoub314 I'm currently on term break and planning on finishing my last two courses starting next month. My company stopped tuition assistance because of the company's situation/ economy. Now, I'm asking for the air national guard to pay for it using their tuition assistance. I learned a lot since I started my journey especially on evaluating financial statements. Still needs alot of practice but better than a year ago.

[@mohamedyagoub314]

@@FrancoNepomuceno good to hear hopefully you finnish soon

[@kdiggity4802]

This has been my experience at 3 different colleges... It. is. the. worst. It eats up so much time trying to sift through this online cookie cutter crap. Schools use these online companies to subsidize there tech departments because they don't have enough knowledgeable staff and its sucks. This age where the instructors are detached from the material is a serious motivation killer, it makes it very hard to get help, and has wasted too much time and money. I was looking at WGU 10 mins ago but am worried having had this experience at three real-world universities and colleges trying to get a degree. Good luck brother and thanks for the vid.

[@firSound]

Thanks for making these videos, very helpful. You know how when you "enroll" in a class it says you're locked into the current version? Are you sure this isn't affecting your ability to see corrections zybooks makes? Either way sloppy on zybooks part, and sincerely appreciate knowing what to look out for as I just started the CS program June 1st. What fields were your brick & mortar degrees in?

[@codeBueno]

I went back through the email confirmations they sent about reports I made in Computer Architecture a couple weeks ago and found that they have actually made most of the corrections I got confirmation emails about. (They stopped sending me confirmations emails after I submit about a dozen reports). There are still other mistakes I reported that need to be fixed. I've got a lot of thoughts on that textbook - it's just not very well written and the conversion to zybooks made it worse, when it could have made it a lot better. My first 3 degrees were in aviation and law. Welcome to WGU! Good luck!

[@michaele.stovall6364]

@@codeBueno what do you think about wgu? Have you had any prestigious job internships or prospects? I'm thinking of it. And how long does it take to get your bachelors,?

[@ArtIsDrawing]

I used zybooks at my CC as well..

[@killerdude2476]

Any advice on Cloud Computing degree?

[@latrishablakey8105]

This is good info we need to know…. I am looking into applying

[@hollybecker5975]

How did you feel about the exams? Did you have a hard time with any of them because of the way the questions were phrased?

[@codeBueno]

I thought most of the exams were fine. Some were worse than others. The worst was Software Quality Assurance. That was the only one I thought was really poorly made.

[@chuy14nba]

I just want to let you know that at Texas Universities zyBooks is frequently use

[@yoidkldk]

You're not wasting your time...you're learning it more intimately...becoming an expert!@

[@blackpassenger]

great vid. im starting the ms in cybersecurity next month. I have zeeeeero experience in the field, but i do have a strong interest. my big problem so far is, i live in japan, but currently in california. will be moving back to japan next march, but they told me i cant pursue the degree in japan ( or outside the US) unless im in the military or contracted by the military. This just doesnt make sense. Its an online uni.

[@CMD1999]

I just started this month so I can relate. I believe it has more to due with data privacy, copyrights, etc. You may be able to overcome this by using VPN software that lets you determine how your IP Addresses translate back to WGU. Some VPN software lets you determine your location from available addresses around the world. Check out NetworkChuck's KZbin page.

[@alphafox9162]

Do you have to register for all the classes you want to take at once? For instance, I might just wanna do 5 classes and see how I do. If I finish them in a month... can I then register for more classes?

[@silentlygaming3396]

You'e probably figured this out by now but you pay for a 6 month block of time and can do as many classes as you want.

[@alphafox9162]

@@silentlygaming3396 Got it. Thanks ^^

[@stockmarketindicators7693]

Maybe it's being typed out by people say ...farther away from the root of proper English . Where are zybooks written?

[@koneal8190]

Can you transfer classes you take at WGU to another university?

[@r34p3r_here]

I don't learn anything from my college work. I'm in a community college and forget everything once I'm done with the class. Everything I know about computer science is from my own discovery not from college. I've come across automated tests that were clearly wrong but as long as I passed I could care less. College is a game that you have to play because society is indoctrinated to believe once worth is demonstrated by what group he has been raised by.

[@rahultirkey7950]

In India, you have to complete at least 3 years of graduation after school. But marks doesn't matter at all to get job. You'll get job by your skills. So degree isn't worth it unless you have no knowledge about what you've studied in college.

[@thechillmaster5836]

Well you obviously didn't go to a good school because any good school having computer science, will definitely have hands on

[@stephenberzinsky2065]

You’re a very smart guy. I never took a course at WGU. That misguided tech material you experienced in academia, will certainly be experience in the world. Unfortunately, more than not. Incorrect and dis/mis-information about technologies is important obstacles to delay your future projects. I am sure you may have practical experience with that situation. You should be disgruntled with these deficiencies during your education. Disinformation is a great challenge during education. Yes, it’s poor-quality control on their part. You passed the most important test. You are confident of your knowledge, enough to address the “unforeseen errors”. Thankful?

[@bonniekerr4964]

There are always errors in textbooks. I do agree they should be willing to fix the issues. From what I learned about their degrees, the do save yuh a lot of money and time.

[@jimba6486]

In a traditional setting, the professors aren’t aware of what is in the books either. I spent 30minutes as well, I knew the book was wrong, zybooks had a few errors in their digital circuits courses (COMPE Major) and when I brought it to my professors attention, he was surprised as well. It doesn’t matter where you go to college, you’re always going to be alone. Also, whether you go to a community college or traditional college as I have. Anytime you used 3rd party software the Professor provided, they made sure to express in writing that you can figure it out by reaching out the to company :) Personally. I love zybooks, it is the best way I ever learned anything in a college setting. We all learn differently. Despite some unprofessional mistakes you come across their material. I think it it works great from technical majors. I need a lot of interactive materials, hands on learning. Traditional methods of teachings: slides, videos, reading a boring text book, just doesn’t work for me.

[@twinkiemp]

Thanks for this!

[@stewtech]

How were the general courses?

[@10joJoe]

Unrelated completely, a girl left the exact cap you’re wearing at my place. I just call it the Pokémon bears cap

[@cliftonmccallum8660]

Hey, did you just finish discrete I? I think that's what you were getting at toward the end. How much time did you dedicate to that course?

[@codeBueno]

Clifton McCallum hey, yeah I did finish Discrete Math I. Sorry I didn't make that clear. Recorded this late at night after a long day. I started it on the 3rd and took the exam on the 11th. Probably put something like 70-80 hours into it.

[@cliftonmccallum8660]

@@codeBueno Nice. I'm taking it at a traditional college right now, and I just find that balancing being in my 30s--adult stuff--and multiple classes at once is pretty challenging. I'm seriously considering WGU.

[@codeBueno]

@@cliftonmccallum8660 Despite the problems with the materials I talked about in the video, I do highly recommend it. The flexibility is great, and you can't beat the price. Especially if you're able to accelerate things. Good luck regardless!

[@kortneyfield1899]

@@cliftonmccallum8660 Do it! I am a full time teacher and I wouldn't have been able to pursue this new adventure without the WGU self-paced style. I feel like I have been able to devote myself to quality learning instead of "beating the clock/rushing" which is how I felt during my first degree (brick and mortar).

[@HerdingDogRescuer]

I just bailed out of WGU. The student support is great, I just wish they had had the same standard for academic quality. zyBooks and uCertify materials are so out of date as to make them useless. I sent my instructor a SQL code example and he trashed it. I told it was from uCertify and he back peddled. He blamed uCertify, uCertify blames WGU. the SQL course at the graduate level MSDA program was a complete joke. It below a beginner's level. It was the icing on the cake for me. I don't want to spend $4-8K for a few letters, I want to learn something. If you can cram a graduate degree into 6 months, I posit that you really aren't learning anything. You're just good at jumping through hoops, which is what the WGU experience really is.

[@andrewadams8601]

Still worth it if you are just trying to get a bachelors in the fertile you are working in, along with the industry certs. There are plenty of ways to learn the correct information outside of a college program, but if you want to get ahead in your career then you still need a diploma. That’s where WGU is good, since it is easy to rush the diploma. Of course, it would be even better if the material was on point.

[@Ki1ngOfGods]

Seems like you're not working a full time job while in school? How many hours per day do you usually dedicate to wgu?

[@codeBueno]

My wife and I have an online business that allows a lot of flexibility around when work gets done. Over a week, I aim to average 10 focused hours a day of studying, between 4am and 11pm. I'll make my next video on study habits.

[@Ki1ngOfGods]

@@codeBueno you are very fortunate congratulations. I'm still debating if I can pass wgu with only 3-4 hours per night

[@chrislogan6403]

@@Ki1ngOfGods you should since you study and complete assessments at your pace

[@pucks_pups]

Dude the tasks can make or break my frustration. I'm studying special ed masters

[@cfossedal4274]

The real thing about that first question is they shouldn't have used "n" across the board in the same sentence to describe sets, comparators, and blocks. This makes the lesson both misleading and technically incorrect.

[@carnelforeman9719]

Have you tried to contact Zybooks instead of the Univesity?

[@codeBueno]

Yep. Every error I reported was through zybooks built in error reporting tool. They even sent me emails saying thanks for the first 6 or 7 error reports a few days I submit each of them. Some were corrected when I checked back a few months later. Others are still there.

[@eric.capehart]

10:59 Love that silver lining

[@ArtIsDrawing]

my professor did not care if the book wasnt correct either. I dropped my class at my CC.

[@BoomBubbleBustRepeat]

Your channel is very good and your videos are very informative! I hope you continue to make content and grow your channel. I was a WGU student and had a miserable experience back in 2013 and felt the accountancy program was just empty and pointless. I graduated but felt very unprepared and missed out on what I felt was critical experiences and educational requirements needed to succeed in accounting.

[@codeBueno]

Sorry to hear that. I guess they've had a chance to improve over the last 6 years. I certainly can't speak to their business program at all. But I'm having a very different experience in their computer science program. I've got undergrad and graduate degrees from brick and mortar schools in fields unrelated to what I'm doing now, and this experience has been far superior to those. But I've always preferred learning by reading and studying on my own over being lectured to. Mostly because I hate doing something slowly if I could just as effectively do it faster. WGU lets me do it at my pace, at a cost that beats any other school I've been able to find. Everyone I've dealt with has been completely professional, knowledgeable and polite. Material is based on the current real world environment. Even the issue with Zybooks I mentioned in this video hasn't been that big a deal. They are making corrections to errors in their material, slowly but surely. And zybooks ended up being a smaller part of the degree program than what I expected when I made this video.

[@donnavitek2852]

I'm considering applying to WGU, but I'm concerned about having questions and getting answers, as you've demonstrated here. This videos concerns me because it doesn't appear that you are able to get clarification on for the concepts you don't understand. Do you know why those answers were incorrect? That type of feedback needs to occur within 2 days!

[@donnavitek2852]

Thank you for your response. I'm planning to apply to the BSN program with no medical experience. I want to be sure I am learning everything correctly, so I can offer the best medical care possible.

[@binderbinder6920]

Donna Vitek the Biggest thing you will ever learn in school is how to learn. Especially in life sciences as everything is constantly changing.

[@FrankTricamo]

you can submit the error, they will turn themselves into pretzels 'not to correct it"

[@codeBueno]

Frank Tricamo yeah... actually of the dozen or so errors I submit to them a couple months ago (I eventually decided if if they didn't consider it worthwhile to invest in editing, I probably shouldn't do it for them for free), it looks like they have corrected some of them since I made this video. The one I showed in the video has Not been corrected.

[@OLACALLE305]

If possible make a video on your study habits

[@codeBueno]

Will do that next. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@kortneyfield1899]

@@codeBueno YES! I would love to hear more about how other students time manage.

[@saltyzebra6489]

Time transferring to WGU. I currently go to APUS and we have the same problems

[@josephparker646]

maybe check out Liberty University. We actually have major student support. We even have most lectures also hosted on iTunes U. itunes.apple.com/lc/institution/liberty-university/id427898998?mt=10

[@josephparker646]

by the way, we (Liberty University) don't use ZyBooks. We use Pearson or McGraw-Hill materials for our computer courses.

[@kodiererg]

Any links to youtube lectures using zybooks?

[@demetriogarcia517]

use different books from amazon

[@windell0121]

Many of these Schools are great with the intent but come up short in terms of execution. NONE of them are perfect. Get in--Get out - The real test and learning are when you are in the field and you must get vendor-specific certs. His correcting and researching the curriculum is worth 10 fold in the field because you will research customer issues using many sources to do so. Nice work

[@raponzel2006]

I’m an instructor here. You should report this to your Assigned Course Instructor. Usually those links are not very helpful. A lot of books are new and a lot of work has been done, which is not easy. We really appreciate when you find a typo, but I understand your concerns. So please make an appointment with your Assigned Course Instructor and discuss this. We do have a repository, and mistakes like these have to go through our PDSs, which means they are product development specialists and they submit the tickets for items like these to be fixed immediately. WGU is really always striving to become the best Online school out there ... We are one of the most innovative ones in the world and with rapid change comes some imperfection. But no other school cares about students like we do. I hope you understand. Have a great day.

[@blackpassenger]

Greetings sensei, i have a question. Im in the process of starting an MS in cybersecurity at WGU (or wagyu, as I like to call it) mid may. im currently in california, but will be returning home to japan in march next year. However, ive been told i cant continue my degree if i return to japan, unless im military or contracted by the military, neither of which I am. In this day and age, why cant i continue pursuing my degree if I return to japan? The whole idea of doing a degree online is to have international flexibility. Could you please explain why that policy is in place? arigatou.

[@raponzel2006]

blackpassenger hello dear student ! I honestly don’t know why / if that’s the case. I do know students who aren’t in the military and are studying at WGU from abroad. Who told you this ? Here is what I know you should do. Please contact your program mentor, if you have one now. He or she will be able to tell you better what the policy is. You can email me at **** if you have more questions! Welcome to WGU and I hope all works out well.

[@blackpassenger]

@@raponzel2006 thanks for your quick response, I'll shoot you an email.

[@thechillmaster5836]

So you hate WGU because of their ebooks?

[@christinestrange4295]

Thank you

[@stever24]

How many credits did you transfer when you started WGU?

[@codeBueno]

37 - 8 of which were from two courses I did in January through Straighterline.com, just before starting WGU

[@stever24]

@@codeBueno Awesome. I'll be starting WGU in Data Management/Analyst with about that many transferred credits as well. Thank you for the transparency in your videos.

[@mdtaylor2274]

@@codeBueno do you recommend Straighterline? How was that experience?

[@codeBueno]

@@mdtaylor2274 If you can put the time in to get it done quickly, absolutely. You pay by the month, then pay for each course individually. No restriction on how quickly you go through it. You take the tests as soon as you're ready to take them. I did two courses in one month and had a discount for one of the courses, so it was definitely worth it for me. I don't remember exactly off-hand but I want to say it ended up costing me somewhere about $30-40 per credit unit. The credit transfers to a ton of schools - online and brick and mortar. That's obviously a way better cost per credit than you'll get at any brick and mortar school.

[@chancealewine8199]

@@codeBueno which classes did you take from straigherline?

[@sharonclark7301]

I don't find your errors to be errors your skipping over some details... example 32 one word blocks [32÷4=8]. I'm actually going to wgu for education and one strategy to help students is to mark up the problem as to not miss pertinent information

[@ArtIsDrawing]

I wasted so much time at CC because of this too because they only had IT courses during Fall and SPRING!!!! 😡😡😡😤

[@Dillon421]

WE NEED AN UPDATE!👀👀

[@codeBueno]

recorded one a few days ago, but have had my GPU loaded training deep learning models the last few days. Will get it edited and uploaded as soon as I get a chance!

[@Dillon421]

codeBueno yay! Can’t wait!

[@OPTIONALWATCH]

You might want to check here for help with those wrong answers: www.studypool.com/tags/zybooks

[@Franky566]

wgu is making me nervous. they were heavily investigated by the Department of Education for being bad at educating people. looks like they fixed nothing.

[@ArtIsDrawing]

this is wut I did for my python course as well at CC.

[@ahmedshahab4105]

I'm doing zybooks now and I fkin hate it

[@anthonysmith553]

Your beard gone is the first thing I noticed

[@We4redev0]

They need to give you your money back!!!

[@mralchemist5944]

I cant wait to start in November

[@mohamedyagoub314]

How's it going so far

[@mralchemist5944]

@@mohamedyagoub314 awesome honestly I read all the material then do the study guide then I'm ready for the test

[@mohamedyagoub314]

@@mralchemist5944 what do you study

[@mralchemist5944]

@@mohamedyagoub314 business management.

[@mohamedyagoub314]

@@mralchemist5944 how is it so far I'm going to study business administration

[@PaladinLeeroy42069]

It’s not a bug it’s a feature lmao

[@Joshiewoshieee]

Dude no homo but if you starred in a movie I’d definitely watch. You’re a pretty smart guy and your voice and face are pleasing to hear and look at. You seem like you’d be good in a military themed movie

[@ReyBanYAHUAH]

Always remember to repent of your sins (sin is transgression of YAHUAH The Father In Heaven’s LAW: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy) And Have Belief On Yahusha The Messiah. HE Died and Rose three days later so that you can be forgiven of your sins! HE Loves you! Come to HIM🙂🙂🙂

[@peonyflowers23]

I thought the mentors and their nagging was the worst thing.

[@fredharvey2720]

Get an alternative text

[@Coananlover]

Anyway, you're very handsome.

[@ygbodybuilder3023]

Just reminded me not to take computer science