Coding Bootcamp Lawsuit (Clever Programmer)

[@chessnuttreviews6619]

I did a coding bootcamp, got a pretty good gig right out of the bootcamp. That being said I was no where near job ready, I got lucky and had a company and boss that spent time on me and getting my skills up to snuff.

[@Orangepeel723]

What boot camp did you attend?

[@andyibanezk]

People need to understand programming jobs wouldn’t pay that well if anyone could become proficient at it in less than a year.

[@69-Bot]

Depends, I think most people could become proficient at HTML and CSS in a couple of months if they put enough time into. But on the other hand, something like PowerShell or Python would take a lot of time. When I first looked at HTML, I saw the pattern, very simple and easy to pick up, when I look at python it’s like looking at a foreign language, and the same for my short attempt at learning the basics of powershell, wasn’t willing to dedicate enough time to understand the complexity.

[@atharvabhosale3529]

Exactly 😂

[@privacyofjayden4834]

That makes sense

[@freaklore]

Nice job, give people realistic expectations not fantasy promises.

[@freewheelburning8834]

I attended one of these college-endorsed bootcamps, and despite having the option to learn from their online system at a lower cost, I decided to attend the classroom sessions, assuming it would be more effective with a tutor available. Unfortunately, it turned out to be a disappointing experience. Instead of receiving the expected guidance from a knowledgeable coding tutor, we were simply overwhelmed with videos. It became apparent that the supposed tutor was only doing this to earn money for her nursing class, and she wasn't much help at all. Consequently, I failed the course because I wasn't getting the assistance I needed and was left with the advice to "google it" if I had questions.😡

[@GTPressure]

Unfortunately that’s part of the job lol most programmers google it

[@freewheelburning8834]

@@GTPressure well if I would have known that I would have stayed at home, they should be sued

[@adamvplzni]

I am attending boot camp rn. The bootcamp i am in has contracts with companies that will offer you job for at least a year. So i guess some bootcamps can make you learn enought to get a job as junior programmer.

[@redtoxiin1610]

Bro thank you for being realistic like I was thinking about coding boot camps but this seems to not work I have a family want to get into it I’m glad I ran into this video I subscribed for you being real

[@paljain01]

having a income sharing agreement in a paid (expemsive) bootcamp is messed up.

[@jacobsolomon427]

Interesting that you're saying it takes 16 to 18 months but doesn't ds advertise then you can take their course for about 6 months wt 20 hours a week??

[@codewithabuki]

Bro its happened in my country like you say i live in Ethiopia(africa) and people pay for bootcamp $1000-$2000(don't see this money in your country ) even the biggest university in ethiopia also teach 2month in higher payment I will say agian thanks bro for ever thing video

[@topicmodellingproject9002]

One of the things that drives me fucking crazy is that they try to depict college students as lazy bozos who just get a name on a piece paper. I've been on multiple hiring committees and I'm open to anyone with any background but there is always going to be people with STEM degrees that have extremely impressive resumes that are going to totally outcompete those with bootcamp certs. That's just reality.

[@dequeue3301]

I hate the visual effects.

[@Robert08010]

Something I learned in video production and I think it applies here even more so. Often the only guys who are making bank are the ones creating their own work. If YOU come up with a good idea for an app and you develop it, you own the intellectual property. The potential income is greater than if you're just someone's employee. But often consistency of salary is far more important. Most of us would be lucky to come up with 1 great original idea for an app. So working for someone else can be less stressful and more rewarding in the long run.

[@Blackleaf013]

I want to learn game development but I have never written a single line of code in my life so how do I go about learning to code. Also the game engine I want to learn is unity witch uses c# as it's programming language.

[@dainsleif3122]

well. it took me 4 years of self-study before I got a job..

[@a.m.4154]

Currently on year 2, and this is with a CS degree too. Current market is MENTAL.

[@josephreagan9545]

Now we need to have colleges sued for forcing people to take classes that do not actually contribute to the subject of their degree and for selling people degrees that do not get them jobs.

[@TheSaltyMans]

What if I go to a university that offers a boot camp like Penn State university or A community college.

[@BtK-gn5hb]

Bootcamps that partner with universities are not any better. They just pay the university for marketing purposes. It's kind of unethical imo.

[@muhammeddiab723]

I got into coding recently and im glad i found this vid to not invest any cash into bootcamps. Better to trust the process, keep learning and be patient.

[@daveayeni7114]

Please can we link up. Am just starting and looking for friends with similar interests.

[@_happydare]

Why would you pay thousands of dollars for resource that are available almost for free, KZbin, Udemy, Coursera, Udacity, plurasight to name a few have amazing contents to make you become an excellent programmer and thy just charge little. How is able to guarantee your job at a Faang company, is he the ceos of this company, or is there any agreement of sort between his bootcamp and this companies, this is a question someone en here should have asked

[@yoyoyo7083]

Hello, I just noticed that your playlist "Everything you need to know about Android Development" is gone. I wanted to learn from it. Could you kindly return it for viewers to learn from the videos?

[@jsl6155]

It’s behind a paywall now. You need to pay and join dev slopes to learn it.

[@yoyoyo7083]

@@jsl6155 Oh🥲😥😕🫤🙂 okay.

[@stepbyfaith101]

I'm sure you're busy but can you research the Holberton School and let us know what you think...?

[@doodle3723]

Programming became get rich quick scheme 😂

[@HCTR3]

What about state university 6mo program?

[@me_souljah]

Am sure they don't make promises. The problem is the unrealistic promises

[@f00kwhiteblackracismwarsh07]

they all do hype promises that is unrealistic

[@saikeebuk2961]

What do you have to say about Codecademy, as they also promise a 6 month full stack developer course?

[@I_Love_Lord]

There is a difference in approach. Codecademy (and many others) pitch more of a covering content, means they will teach you all the things in 6 months (or whatever they say) which is 'necessary' to land a job, means giving complete training, but then its upto student to polish skills and get better and polish skills as required by employers, However Celever Programmer's main pitch is that all you gotta do is complete the bootcamp and there you go, next day you will see yourself in Google or Netflix or Amazon etc coding and stacking money. Its same like if football coaches coming up with 'hey, just come and train with me, and I gaurantee you that after completing my training, you will be a next Cristiano Ronaldo ready to sign contract with Real Madrid, or PSG or FC baracelona'. I hope you got my point

[@yashkryadav7844]

Bro I want you to review the criodo full stack web development program they also promise the same things every review on yt about criodo is paid review I want a genuine review of criodo full stack web development program review from u

[@TheJacrespo]

Snake oil sellers and bootcamps... Perfect marriage

[@sarahafreenmalik2679]

Thank you for saying this I’m so glad I didn’t fall for this 😭

[@Newth1234]

So is it not possible to learn a lot in 6 months?

[@tymondabrowski12]

It is possible to learn a lot, but you probably won't be at the same level as someone after a good uni with 5 year CS course (which is more of what FAANG expects from you). And if teachers are not competent or don't even come to the class, then you'll learn even less. CS is a huge topic, even just programming is a big topic. Would you expect to become a proficient lawyer in 6 months? Thankfully, programming (unlike law) doesn't require you to know *all* of what's out there to know, so you might still be able to land a job if you really applied yourself through those 6 months (though might be harder now). But realistically, you're still at best a proficient code monkey, not an engineer. Which is not bad, you can improve, it just takes a lot of practice and understanding and learning and practice. For example, in my uni on the master's degree course there were math courses where you were expected to deliver a project at the end of the semester in an entirely new language and it was expected you'll just learn it on the way on your own, and no one complained because it would just be a tenth language, similar to all the previous ones, and frankly a good practice, too (we could choose between Python and R there, I believe). Teachers knew that a new language, more suitable for the task than languages we knew before, would not slow us down. It's this kind of programming efficiency: you can just adapt to whatever technology you need to use. Plus, 6 month bootcamps probably won't give you all the nittry gritty background knowledge that you learn in uni or in a longer course than 6 months.

[@bikertilldeath1273]

💙💙💙

[@xXrandomryzeXx]

I know that guy's face. Always seemed a bit weird to me. Guess my gut was right.

[@njengathegeek]

That large debt figure was a joke 😅😅

[@BlessedBeJESUSCHRIST]

10k debt is a joke?

[@njengathegeek]

@@BlessedBeJESUSCHRIST it was $9,999,999, which is a funny exaggeration 😂😂

[@f00kwhiteblackracismwarsh07]

@@njengathegeekthis is no laughing matter. 10 thousands usd or aud is quite a lot.

[@Eminno-Ab]

Fantasy promises 😂

[@DenzelOden]

I agree that this was something terrible that ruined peoples lives and outlook on the industry but you can %100 percent become a software engineer in 3 to 6 months and get a job at top tech companies. It takes more then just following a bootcamp training but I have seen many do it with the right mentorship.

[@chrisalt971]

Can you give me any advice on how to?

[@DenzelOden]

@chrisalt971 it depends on what you are looking for but there are places like "Course Careers" who take the time to set you up, teach you the job and help you get a job. Ive seen people get hired in a week, 2 months, 3 months and sometimes even before they finish the course.

[@CristinaJeanDonato]

20000 usd @@

[@malcomgreen4747]

I warned many people i toldcthem its a lie

[@sarahafreenmalik2679]

Clever Qazi new it was a lie

[@pulkit12966]

how else you get admissions without a single lie

[@wave641]

Give me a break, this bootcamp is literally no different than Dev Slopes bootcamp. Even the time horizon claims.

[@jsl6155]

The claims are not the same. You an employee of Clever Programmer trying to spread misinformation?

[@devslopes]

We have always been realistic with timing it takes to learn how to code. 3-6 Months to land a job is unrealistic and false. We've helped make that clear!

[@jakew4829]

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[@Jakeolivier1]

Wtf hahaha are all of y’all grapplers?? 😂😂

[@GEETBHAKTISARGAM1176]

Deez programme