A Brief Look at Jordan Peterson - SOME MORE NEWS

Hi, woke moralists! In today’s episode, we take a look at Jordan Peterson through the lens of Jungian archetypes - just as he would want - and explore some of his other ideas about climate change, gender, marriage, hierarchies, and lobsters. Don’t check the timecode!
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Chapters:
00:00 - Intro
8:53 - Jordan Peterson Is Not A Climate Expert
19:24 - Jordan Peterson Demands That You Respect His Bigotry
26:28 - Who, What, Why, and How is Jordan Peterson?
34:56 - The Persona
1:28:44 - The Shadow
2:00:47 - The Anima And Animus
2:34:13 - The Self
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[@maciejgrenda216]

As an ex-Petersonian, this is just to say to all his fans that are probably lurking here somewhere in the comments - there is no shame in reassesing your beliefs.

[@syklone_]

I’m a big fan of his older stuff, his newer stuff that’s coming out is less my style. I like to think I’m pretty centralised on the political spectrum for most things, but I like his opinions on the Male-Issues of the world. I actually really appreciate this comment because I have been reassessing a lot of my beliefs I held.

[@greebj]

Like he says. Sort his wheat from his chaff. There is a lot worth listening to and thinking about when he lectures within his field of competence, psychology and self-help. There are many simplistic summaries (clean your room, lobsters, etc) pedalled that do not adequately reflect the thought provoking core of his earlier lecture series, borne of his clinical practice, and he has participated openly in that with the drive to make his platform more ... "accessible". There are many trivial criticisms in this video that ironically are unnecessarily verbose and spend a Pareto-esque amount of time away from the powerful discussion points. Unfortunately JP has devolved into the culture warrior that 5 years ago he protested he was not, and his output is filled with ever more subjectivity in what is not psychology but far more rigidly objective topic areas. His adaptation of definitions to be broad and subjective to support his conservative bent to find reasons to explain the world as it exists, from a self-identifying scientist who advocates precision in speech, is something he has always done to some extent but is increasingly overt and hypocritical. He is eroding his own credibility with this current hyperventilation about facism and deadnaming, switching from provocateur to expedient claim of victimhood. Ugh.

[@maciejgrenda216]

@@syklone_ thanks for the reply. I'm somewhat centrist-left now (social democrat) but I observed that my more left-leaning friends have really no patience or space for allowing other people to reflect and reach conclusions that they propose. I do believe that if you just derisively criticise somebody, somehow trying to shame your opponent into submission they are just going to rigidify themselves and double down. I think one can acknowledge some of the real plights modern men are experiencing without discrediting real challenges that women experience. Just a thought. Also, what led me further away from JP's stuff (besides stuff Cody mentions) was realization that all the interesting wheat I sifted out from JP's chaff was 99% consisting of Jung, Campbell and maybe Nietzsche. The rest of self-help I needed I found on therapy and the need for Peterson stuff just disappeared naturally.

[@katattack907]

This is a great comment for everyone to remember. Reassessing our beliefs is part of what makes us intellectually healthy, especially since we come across new information all the time. Thanks so much for this reminder.

[@h3rteby]

Hey I'm a centrist/social democrat too, though I'm less leftist than my family. Always was a bit suspicious of him but in many of his early talks I ended up siding with him. The way he gets so passionate and emotional in many of his lectures looks like mild mania to me, at state where everything you say can start sounding profound and you lose your inner critic.I think it almost looks like his mental state has deteriorated over the years, perhaps a combination of his illness and his no doubt streesful place in politics an twitter.

[@dionysus913]

Cody mentioning he has a girlfriend kinda made my brain short circuit because it reminded me that he is an actual human and not some ethereal news goblin here to punish me for my news crimes.

[@Tesla_Death_Ray]

I've heard a lot of good things about sex, and I look forward trying it myself one day.

[@nullskull6860]

Guys lying through his teeth

[@GalactusOG]

He's just a KZbinr with a gimmick bro.

[@hitzoneproductions7858]

​@@GalactusOGthank you

[@GalactusOG]

@@Tesla_Death_Ray Las Vegas is a great place to get started.

[@daviebananas1735]

You should turn this into a full length video. These shorts are ok but leave me wanting more.

[@viktorthevictor6240]

Part 2 perhaps

[@EbonyPope]

No hierarchies did not start with our industry. Sure we were more egalitarian but looking at tribes living today all of them have some form of hierarchies. We see this also across the animal kingdom in all kinds of animals. Peterson doesn't argue for a strict hierarchie but just says that they are inevitable. And the more complex a society becomes the more you need a better hierarchie to organize the society. The Inkas and Mayas all had kings and hierarchies and you will find the same with every other culture that grows to a certain size. There is no way around it.

[@daviebananas1735]

@@EbonyPope Yes, we must be like the Incas and Mayans, they have been consistently successful for Millennia and they have hierarchies. Just look at how they still succeed even today. How can we ignore their lessons. They are still amongst the strongest and most successful societies. Aren’t they? Checks notes….. oh.

[@EbonyPope]

@@daviebananas1735 And there is the one who has no comprehension skills. A desrciptive statement just says how things are/were not how they should be. Peterson never argued that there is no wiggleroom. He is fully aware that ancient cultures were more egalitarian but that wasn't his point. His point was that as soon as you have a society you create hierarchies. He elaborated on that saying that it would be better to call them competence hierarchies. You want a plumber? How you gonna call? Surely not the worst you clearly want someone who is capable. Bang. You created a hierarchie. Or preference if you prefer that word. Even the most egalitarian hunter gatherers had hierarchies. Or do you think the most inexperienced hunters were leading the hunt? It is well documented that even our ancestors had elders, head of families, town leaders or kings. None of what he said contradicts what Peterson said. He is only defeating the strawman he created.

[@DavidHudgins-pi9nt]

😂😂😂😂

[@erikanderson1402]

As an engineer… we use all sorts of tests and sensitivity analysis to know what variables are important to include… so the idea that atmospheric physicists don’t do the same betrays a profound ignorance of hard science.

[@justalonelypoteto]

moreover, the general notion of it all, if you remove the fluff, seems to be that "you don't know what the word environment means, therefore you're wrong kiddo" is so ridiculously hilarious and pedantic, made me spit out my drink

[@oscargoldman85]

I love Peterson, his lectures have opened up so many doors, and authors, and helped me get a decent political image of the world (starting when I did politics in University).He is one of the most influential, inspiring honest, erudite people in the world. He knows one hell of a lot of things about many IMPORTANT things... - BUT - !!! Peterson has got it wrong about climate change. To quote another charismatic inspirer (Dr Karl ) Its real, we did it, its bad already, and we cannot stop it from continually getting worse and worse for at least 20 years. There will be a myriad of related issues such as - you may end up going to war with anyone between you and the equator, and it get worse if all the methane in Greenland tries to make a break for it. Now - Regarding Corporate propaganda, and its shameless exponent - Bjorn Longborn was famous for moving to Australia (Perth West Australia- where the mines are) and getting a bunch of support from Gina Reinhardt (for a while Australia's richest woman and Bigtime owner of Coal Mines - FYI - She stole all the wealth from her kids so it "wouldn't get stolen from them"). Anyhow Bjorn is very smart, but he uses his smarts for various often short term cynical strategies to spread FUD while trying to discredit valid, diligent scientific work about climate change; to a level that boggles the mind. He has somehow got himself lodged and whispering in Jordan Petersons's ear. This is a bad thing, but I am hoping that one day Jordan will be going down various intellectual rabbit holes (as he does) and will find Bjorn there, as a snake .

[@craigmaltbie6365]

I think it comes down to the fact Peterson is in no way a scientist. Jungian psychology is somewhere between philosophy, science, and bullshiting and because Peterson is Peterson he believes hard sciences are the same.

[@c.augustin]

@@craigmaltbie6365 What is scientific about Jungian psychology?

[@Isaac-eh6uu]

An esteemed engineer and you picked the word "betrays" for your statement?

[@aquaintsound]

1:16:20 as an indigenous person I can tell you why "double helixes" are found in lots of art. BECAUSE WE BRAID THINGS. Hair, materials for weaving, and more. So while cultural reasons exist and vary, braiding things together makes materials stronger. Just another example of him taking his biased perspective of the world as fact.

[@Stafus]

as I was reading your comment I remembered that is why rope made that way is so strong.

[@justalonelypoteto]

No, you see, a long time ago the indigenous people actually got microscopes from the magic space monkeys and after they saw DNA strands they started braiding their hair like it, clearly he's right because he knows the dictionary definitions of words better than the rest of us

[@Cabochon1360]

Though apparently he doesn't know the dictionary definition of "climate". Which is weird, because surely there are scientists at his university who could explain it to him.@@justalonelypoteto

[@motherlarkspur4506]

​@justalonelypoteto So much better. I mean, cmon, how was I supposed to know the definition of Tyrannical is something that's not good?

[@Some_Average_Joe]

Got a source for that buddy lol?

[@oortboxtv]

The length of this video is absolutely hilarious to me. It lasts as long as Peterson answering a yes/no question.

[@422youngstar]

Actually this video is still shorter than Peterson answering a Y/N question

[@luckerleyjean6168]

I died reading this, thank u lol

[@marciamakesmusic]

Weird criticism tbh, that's exactly what right wingers say about us. Complicated questions have complicated answers. The desire for succinct answers is understandable but not if it gets in the way of a correct one.

[@Mr47steam]

depends what you mean by length, and depends what you mean by yes and by no

[@ScoopMeisterGeneral]

@@marciamakesmusic No one said anything about complicated questions though. The comment you're responding to only refers to yes/no questions, which are the opposite of complicated. Also, it was, like, a joke, y'know?

[@g-manvic3958]

After this video I had a wave of guilt wash over me. I was struck with doubt when I saw JP's video response about the Elliot Page ban. I used to defend him because I liked his rhetoric about boys being left behind. But when I saw him roleplay the hero in a special suit and light, he instantly appeared to me as madman. So I stopped defending him or sharing any of his content. But now after watching your video, I'm starting to think I could make amends by making sure no one falls in the same traps I did. Thank you for your work.

[@catross3713]

Fair play.

[@hiddenechoes]

❤

[@hiddenechoes]

One thing I really liked for helping in terms of myself understanding the boys being left behind concept was Brené Brown's "Men, Women, and Worthiness" segment. I would get really pissed with my bf at the time for not seeing what I was struggling with, and realised through listening to that regularly that I also didn't know what he was going through. Life is a challenging place, but we can do this. 🌏

[@ChrisJones-xd1re]

Roughly speaking, culture is a see-saw. It's insufficient to simply even up the weight. An impetus is required, and the hypocritical matriarchy is the most expedient way to remove the patriarchy. The trick is going to be, to make sure the matriarchy is smoothed over to make equality.

[@EvelynBaron]

@@hiddenechoes I admit that age 68 the boys left behind concept was something I could only conceptualize in terms of Lucy being mean to Charlie Brown which is .... not uncommon. i.ve been lucky, my guy was my best friend and I miss him like hell. And to reverse the experience, boys shaming girls for .... being girls same thing. I went to a girls school so didn't have to deal with any of that stuff until uni where it was lurking anyway but I survived. I had a great Dad who loomed benevolently in the doorway should I have a question about anything, clapped loudly when I was learning to ride a bike and fell off repeatedly which pissed me off ... in short he was also my best friend. (And so was my mum and they really liked each other). I was lucky, and frankly he would regard Jordan Peterson as an insect ... actually he wouldn't because that person would not ever enter his mind he had better things to do. He was shot in the back in WW2 rescuing a friend and got him to safety was hilariously proud of being a man with one kidney, courtly, funny "I'm only handsome because my wife picks out my clothes" brain the size of a planet and momentary moments of utter illogical madness but ALWAYS a protector of those in need and the planet in general. I don't think JP has the cognitive abilities to even understand that those are values that are worthy of respect.

[@smiggyballs6636]

so if fathers being present is a good thing, having two dads would raise the ultimate child by perftenson's own logic

[@justinky2035]

No because he would say something like the weakness of women balances out the pride of men or some bs

[@groundbird4904]

@@justinky2035two dads, two moms

[@LeDank]

He’s afraid of what we could create with two fathers: the ultimate superhuman. What if we couldn’t stop them?!

[@BlueKeyAnimations]

We can make the giga-son...

[@ThePoodle]

Why just two?

[@Kiromos]

The best description of Jordan Peterson I have ever heard is that he excels in talking in a way that less intelligent people think highly intelligent people talk.

[@OK-bg2px]

@@blaynestaleyproYou’re exactly who this comment was directed towards - there is no evidence to support your claims or his.

[@ianstover]

I think intelligence is a part of it, but education is a larger factor. I would think a somewhat below average person given correct information could be competent to question such grifters assuming they haven't already been indoctrinated to accept this stuff. Similarly, I k ow someone I would say seems at least in a technical sense near genius. The pace at which he absorbs and applies technical information is insane. But he is uneducated other then self taught technical info and he has absorbed some of this shit. Once the seed is planted pulling him out is difficult because of the implied axioms of this type of thought and the general unwillingness of people to renounce the ideological.

[@blaynestaleypro]

@@ianstover who are you talking about?

[@blaynestaleypro]

@@OK-bg2px Well, I've seen more and more KZbin videos of professionals coming out to talk about, for example, gender dysphoria, which is a real thing that affects o.01% roughly of the population.

[@blaynestaleypro]

@@ianstover How many Peterson lectures and interviews have you seen? Do you even understand what he is saying? What ideology? You're a brainwashed fool, Peterson's conclusions are based on facts. He's a clinical psychologist. Clinical. That's clinical data.

[@ionceateapinecone]

I once heard somebody say "everything Jordan Peterson says is either objectively obvious or wrong" and that's kinda how he built a brand

[@nenmaster5218]

Cody is America-Criticism and Juiceymedia is Australia-Criticism. Thats fine, its both epic, but are there more in this Channel-Family i should know about?

[@conorford7852]

His best friend Ben Shapiro is the same way. The only difference is one is an epic rambler, and the other deals in short and quippy soundbites and catchphrases.

[@steven5054]

Wearing a suit and speaking with authority is enough for some to be fooled

[@nenmaster5218]

@@steven5054 'Some More News' are in Demand so much. NOT only does he have the nowadays-rare Attribute of 'Criticizing BOTH Partys', but it doesnt stop there. Hes literally the kind of Guy America needs right now.

[@uhk9428]

@@nenmaster5218 i've seen the titles of his videos, he's obviously anti-conservative views (not saying he's left leaning) he's not going equally against both parties nor he's unbiased. But that's how It works, nobody Is unbiased.

[@nomethodonlymadness9528]

Every time Jordan Peterson talks, all I hear is that kid in history class who claimed to be playing "devils advocate" during the WW2 lesson but actually just wanted to say shockingly horrible things to get attention.

[@yasminc7827]

What did the kid in your history class say that was shocking?

[@getaround1276]

@yasminc7827 I think they were just using a simile to compare petersom to a kid that hides behind devils advocate to say horrible stuff (implying by the ww2 part to be saying nazi things)

[@yasminc7827]

@@getaround1276 oh, that makes sense, thanks for the explanation. This is a bit off topic, but I think we need to move past the preoccupation we have in our culture with ww2 nazis. According to my grandfather, who fought in the British Army in ww2, the British didn’t even use the term ‘nazi’ much during ww2. They called them Germans. The soldiers they fought were just soldiers, not supervillains. For political and propaganda reasons, we hold one horrible event in history above all other horrible events, which is dishonest.

[@twilit]

@@yasminc7827just because your grandpa thought that doesn’t mean it’s true the holocaust stands as a symbol of complete inhumanity and evil for a reason

[@windwaker105]

⁠​⁠@@yasminc7827 Say what you want about ideologies that lead to the needless death of many, but Nazi ideology’s goal was the death of millions. And they were stopped very short of their goal.

[@Name-ot3xw]

TFW you manage to make Joe Rogan seem like the scientifically literate man in the room.

[@djaii328]

The number of people who honestly take Joe Rogan seriously is also staggering.

[@bobhabsolute4995]

That’s the funniest post I’ve read this year!

[@theadventuresofzoomandbettie]

I can't believe when he said "it's not like the bible was put together by a committee...." that you didn't bring up, that is EXACTLY what happened. The stories were compiled by a group of men. And they left out stories that didn't align with their ethos.I can't believe how easy I found the time to get this short recap into my day.

[@andresgarciacastro1783]

It's hilarious because this is well documented.

[@sarahbarrett1247]

It’s almost like they heard about the Council of Nicaea but then thought nah, that couldn’t have happened. But that’s exactly how the first version of the New Testament was formed.

[@alberich3099]

Not only that, we also have well documented instances of alterations and additions after the fact within the bible. Not only in the original where stories have been added to Peter and Paul for example, which we could find out becuse it was documented that scripts had been added to Peter and Paul in the Council in Trent. They put scripture into Peter and Paul because they didn’t fully know where those parts came from but decided that they would work best within that setting and put them in. ___ If you want read a more detailed decription on how we today udnerstand that they did not fit, if not skip to the next __ 1. In Ephesians, 40 words have been used which previously have not been used in the works and mark a very strong language and style shift, which is a strong indicator that it was a different author. Paul previously talked much more about how Jesus was acting on god’s behalf, Ephesians however puts Jesus on an more autonomous path, which directly contradicts Pauls previous writings, again idicateing a different author. 2. Colossians is also understood to be not an original work and added in the 2nd century. Mainly because it is targeted at Gnosticism and refuteing the idea. However Gnosticism was not realy understood to be heresy untill the 2nd century - putting the work roughly 50-80 years after Paul. Again language used is much different and it is hypothosised that it was a student of Paul trying to carry on Paul’s legacy. 3. 1. Peter and 2. Peter face similar problems. With 1. Peter showing it beeing written by someone who had formal education in greek and philosophy - something highly doubtfull for a supposed galilean fisherman. Much more damning is that 1. Peter references the Septuagint translation, something which would not have been aviable during the supposed writing of the letters. 2. Peter has similar issues, the first is that the identifyer used for Peter uses a different spelling for Peter - which is weird if you identify yourself you’d know how to spell your name. Again like Colossians it makes references to the 2nd century idea of gnosticism and references the book of Jude, again which doesn’t fit the timeline oft he rest oft he works. ________ Carry on here. This means not even the original texts which later were decided upon during the Council of Rome in 382 under Damasus, and the last confirmation oft he bible (not it’s translations) was in 1546. To now know that the bible was not dropped down onto earth (like Muslims claim for the Quran) is absurdly naive for someone who claims to understand the devine idea of a deity and referenceing the judeo-christian values as much as Peterson does. Something I, as a german, find disgusting. As a long lasteing christian value and tradition is to surpress the jewish faith as „outdated“ and „not haveing accepted the messiah“. Somthing which was burried after the 2nd world war, but brought up again by Pope Benedict (a german for all that is ironic) to include praying again for the „deluded jew“ during easter mass with the words „„Oremus et pro Iudaeis. Ut Deus et Dominus noster illuminet corda eorum, ut agnoscant Iesum Christum salvatorem omnium hominum.“ (translated to May god enlighten the jews to accept Jesus Christ as their saviour). Something popes previously had dropped from the easter mass and used a much more inclusive version saying „let us also pray for the jews to whom our god spoke firstly, whom he protected in covenant“

[@mattball2462]

Yes, I fully expected them to jump on that and was disappointed when they didn't. Like, you just described exactly how the Bible was put together and then claimed it wasn't. "It's not like America was originally a collection of British colonies until they got fed up with certain British policies and decided to declare their independence and fought a war to become a new country."

[@GRB-tj6uj]

​@@sarahbarrett1247the Council of Nicea didn't in any shape or form decide the canon of the Bible. That's a 18th century myth that for some obscure reason keeps popping up. The actual process can also not be accurately described as "by committee". It was more a running debate of a couple of centuries that resulted in a list that was only then canonized instead of the other way around

[@deefpaladin]

You gotta love Petersons tactic of acting like he suddenly doesn’t understand words when someone asks a question he doesn’t like.

[@africanhistory]

What do you mean by the word word?

[@yvonne2965]

A master of psycho babble

[@terry9238]

🎯

[@nickfriddle7768]

if someone asks you something that's counterintuitive of your own world view of courses you will be in any relationship especially where its a tediously intense stakes like finding a common ground with one another in a debate. in order to properly think about it you need to clarify and ask why don't you understand other wise it leads us in making false assumptions about the other party which can lead to the debate going off the rails

[@c.augustin]

@@nickfriddle7768 You mean like answering the question "Do you believe in God?" with "What do you mean 'Do'?, What do you mean 'you'? …"?

[@spacelemur7955]

Peterson on snakes and DNA would have led me to stand up in the classroom, walk out and go to the office where one drops courses.

[@sprucewayne10]

I think now i would but i was pretty dumb when i was 18 😅

[@lingy74]

It was comparing humans to lobsters for me.

[@justinky2035]

@@lingy74he must be a big fan of the show friends

[@ashurean]

File an immediate complaint for sure

[@crackaddict1692]

Acting like Monopoly is a totally accurate representation of real world economics is just as insane as acting like Chess is an accurate representation of medieval warfare.

[@dominicparker6124]

And you could also use chess as an asinine reason for why patriarchy doesnt exist, because just look at how powerful the queen is!

[@mooniejohnson]

@@dominicparker6124sssh, don't let the Notorious JBP hear you...

[@TerribleTom113]

​@mooniejohnson It would surprise me exactly 0% if he actually tried to make that argument. "Well you see, bucko, the patriarchy doesn't exist. Don't you know that the queen is the most powerful piece in chess? See, this is a manifestation of the potential of feminine chaos to overthrow boundaries and move with impunity through the social strata unbeholden to the Order of masculine identities. This deep Jungian symbolism clearly indicates that women actually recognized their place before those post-modernist neo-marxists corrupt the minds of modern school children, and liked their place in society. They were never actually oppressed, because if they were, the queen would be a pawn in chess. They chose their social roles because they knew its where they belonged." I could literally see Peterson making that argument and it wouldn't surprise me at all. It would fit quite comfortably in which a lot of his b.s. 😂

[@EvelynBaron]

Fun fact: Monopoly was originally created to test people's level of greed when constraints were removed. It was a sort of social experiment pioneered in 1903 when corporate monopolies began to alarm people.

[@CharnHorpee]

Chess is? Have you seen the way horses run in L shapes in real life?it’s insane

[@philovermyer6166]

Peterson reminds me of a time that me and my friends at the time smoked a large amount of marijuana, ate a lot of shrooms, and wandered around in downtown Louisville Kentucky on a dead Sunday. I fell asleep in the back of a car, and had an intense shroom dream, and woke up having felt like I had an epiphany on the nature of life and all things, and i started freaking out trying to tell my friends what I had unlocked in my brain just prattling out incomprehensible words desperately trying to convey my revelation watching them slowly grow from interested to concerned. Unlike myself, Peterson never moved past trying to get people on board.

[@lookbovine]

Shroom dream would have summed that up nicely. Peterson’s rantings remind you of your shroom dream…with ingested weed thoughts too. While not an outright insult it is true…or would be if you or I ever did such things.

[@Praisethesunson]

Instead of shroom it was an all meat diet

[@goodwolf866]

I came here to say some thing like this. Not me personally but curly Jordan Peterson is doing something, maybe everything?

[@jonahkaun891]

@@Praisethesunson never understood why anyone would trust his conclusions after this became known . . .

[@Praisethesunson]

@@jonahkaun891 a percentage of the rabble will like whatever slop is fed to them. The owners of all the media JPee speaks on push his BS because it's a BS that entrenches rather than threatens existing systems of power.

[@adamrmoss]

For someone who hates postmodernism, Peterson sure does fall into epistemological black holes where he can’t accept a definition of anything.

[@tiafolla]

Epistemological black holes, but they’re well illuminated by lighting all the straw men on fire.

[@NotADuncon]

Didn't he admit 100% of his knowledge of postmodernism stems from one Hitchens book that's criticized as a bad book on postmodernism? Peterson really embodies the image of stereotypical online smart person who has read a little on every topic and is decent at quoting stuff. Without the academic credentials he'd be just a random internet smartass.

[@yungjoemighty879]

Lollll

[@senorbb2150]

Half the time he makes up his own definition and, cognoscente of his own ruse, with a straight face acts as though his definition is the accepted one.

[@NotADuncon]

@@senorbb2150 I bet he doesn't know the proper definition too

[@mkkrupp2462]

I’ve watched about 30 videos of JP over the years. Apart from being a climate change denier and a gold medalist in word saladry, I’ve heard him say - “Contraception will be the downfall of the west”, “women who decide not to have children are destined to remain forever unhappy”, “women were much happier in the 1950’s”, “ incels wouldn’t be around if we had socially enforced monogamy”, “the male is order, the female is chaos”, “the male is the divine individual, the female is the divine mother and child”.”men and women working together is problematic” What an outdated view of humanity he has, especially of women. What a simplified view of the 8 billion of us , dividing humanity into two. We are all individuals and although there are biological differences and some traits that are different, we all have individual values, priorities and ways of seeing the world. There is a huge overlap in these things.

[@c0nd0rd4myt]

he's also said that rape needs to be reverted back into a property crime against the woman's husband because, according to him, that's the only way to get men to care about rape. He also claimed that every single adult woman who he had as a client with "mental problems" was because she had a job and wasn't just having children when she was 19

[@hardryv3719]

I hate to go all #NancyReagan over here, but... #JustSayNo

[@dabi410]

​@hardryv3719, do you think rapists care when their victims say no?

[@r.pinheiro549]

Omg that’s what did it for me!

[@renatonunez-melgarp2066]

dont ask JP about muslims or other countries outside of the ""western"" realm

[@Alex-cw3rz]

The most impressive thing Peterson has ever done is the fact that he has to be debunked by so many different disciplines because he talks about so much stuff he doesn't understand. From Biologist, to the Bar association of Canada, economics, fellow psychologists, philosophers, even supermodels are making fun of him. I'd di e of embrassement if I said so even half the amount of things he said that were just so wrong and easily debunkable, just the line about staying awake for 27 days due to Apple Cider would be to much on it's own. Yet for Peterson he just goes on, it's fascinating how one man can have such an undeserved ego and prefers to be ignorant on every topic he talks about, his the defintion of Dunning Kruger.

[@c0nd0rd4myt]

there's two really funny things about his silly claim about being awake that long because of cider 1) that's twice the world record of going without sleep 2) him describing it, of laying in bed motionless for 8 hours, sure sounds a lot like sleeping.

[@mooniejohnson]

@@c0nd0rd4myt Legit. I was awake for 9 days once due to a manic episode, and I was definitely *not okay* in ways beyond my bipolar. From my understanding of physiology his brain would have literally _shut down_ after about 11 days.

[@travisgale5558]

I'd just like to say that the climate change deniers are always willing to debate the climate but those who support the climate change agenda will not. There is plenty of evidence that the climate models are skewed or wrong all together. Finally there has been climate change since the earth came into existence. It will get hotter and it will get colder. Humanity will adapt to it just as we always have. You miss the point of his climate change objection. The crux of the implementation of policy to prevent climate change will affect the poorest people on the planet the most by making energy less accessible and more expensive. 1st world people making this decision do not see the effects and lives made much more harsh. To make these decisions that will cost lives on unsettled science. And it is unsettled. The only reason you get this 90 some percent say it's settled is because you will not get funding if you don't tow the line. It's is harder to find the many dissenting papers or lectures that provide ample hard evidence for natural causes for, variations not accounted for that skew temp measurements, and many others. While Peterson is not in the field there is no shortage of accomplished climate researchers that do not agree and it is they who are willing to debate but can not find anyone to take the debate stage opposite them. That is a pretty good giveaway that you are dealing with a house of cards. Climate science is not doing good science by shutting out different arguments. That is how you protect bad science. I don't know what is the truth and that is because the powers that be only allow one view to be made readily available. But my gut tells me it's the side being suppressed actively that is the correct one. Those defending it have nothing to gain and everything to lose yet they still defend it. Those are people with character. They are not for sale. The science celebrities are for sale no character. It seems those who enjoy this guy's rants have no idea what character is so I would not expect you to understand the significance. But it is significant and is the quality above all other that qualified a person to have a worthwhile opinion on anything. If you have not noticed more and more conspiracies are turning out to be very true and more and more mainstream are blatant liars. You sheep will follow the herd off the cliff. But it's not to late if there is still earth beneath your feet to step to the side and search for the opposition see who's pale holds water. This guy said absolutely nothing to refute with any evidence the claims Peterson made. Just took out of context and poked holes in the parts he could and failed to mention anything about the world's poorest people that Peterson is trying to be an advocate for. His pale does not hold water. Of course if your a shallow fool it's an easy bandwagon to jump on. You need know nothing to join in the fun with all the other know alot that isn't so it all's. You people the ignorant of your ignorance majority are the downfall of civilization. You all have the ability to blind yourselves to the brightest light. It reallyakes you unstoppable because our humanity won't let us remove you from the gene pool so we sit back try our best but we all are already resigned to the inevitable doom of humanity's bias favoring indoctrinated crowd unthinkers at a minimum 7 to 1 bias. Actually probably less than that but greed makes many follow pop opinion to reap benefits of being included

[@RinZ3993]

​@@c0nd0rd4mytAnd even funnier is how he thought his comment about Apple Cider made his carnivorous diet look good. Hahaha. "due to my diet a slightly fizzy natural drink with some preservatives made me inredibly sick" Yeah thanks Jordan, I'll not go on that diet then😂 AND IN THE SAME BIT HE SAYS VEGANISM IS TO STRICT

[@EbonyPope]

He might have been wrong on some things but hierarchies do exist everywhere. The guy in the video even admits that even though our ancestors were more egalitarian had some form of hierarchies and pretends that would debunk Peterson's claim. It doesn't. Peterson didn't say there is no wiggleroom he only said that you can't build a society without hierarchies. As soon as a society reaches a certain size it gets even stricter. Mayas and Inkas also had kings although they never were in contact with us before. It is a more efficient way to organize things and a necessity as soon as you get to a certain size. That this only emerged during industrialization is nonsense. It got more rigid but hierarchies existed well before.

[@HessianHunter]

43:38 This is actually a cool and inspiring story. The guy who first postulated the idea of alpha wolves, L. David Mech, eventually refuted his own finding when he realized he had based the idea largely on aberrant behavior of captive wolves that didn't accurately represent how they would behave in the wild. It turns out that the "alpha" male and female of a wild wolf pack are just parents teaching their young how to hunt, not physically dominant members of a peer group. This is how good science is done - make your best guess with the evidence you have, then become your theory's own harshest critic when you get new information that doesn't support your previous ideas. Our boy Jordson could learn a lot from the humility of such honest scientific methodology.

[@HessianHunter]

The guy who accidentally kick-started the gluten-free craze did the same thing. His findings potentially linking gluten to gastrointestinal problems got a ton of attention so he re-did the study with an unusual level of rigor. People who claimed to be gluten sensitive stayed at the experiment site for weeks and ate only food provided by researchers. They never knew when their meals had gluten or not, but they did give regular reports on how they felt. Gluten itself didn't have a significant effect, but a class of molecules called FODMAPs that are found in cereal grains among other foods appeared to be the culprit behind some (but not all) participants' reported discomfort.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

Comment of the day! Thanks for writing this, well-said!

[@justjess6636]

It's also another one of those things where you kind of have to cringe when you look at things you've done in the past. I feel like if you don't, you're not self-aware enough. I know you were talking about research, but this was just a small related thought I had.

[@letsomethingshine]

@@HessianHunter Gluten never makes me "feel" anything right away as much as lactate makes me "feel"... but the Gluten does seem to always cause high bother itchy bleeding hemorrhoids 1 to 2 days later supposedly due to secondary effect from Gluten-induced constipation. I can eat Gluten-free bread, cereal, etc just fine... not sure if those have FODMAPs. And I have also heard people that stopped having headaches after discontinuing Gluten, and then had them again if they accidentally ingested Gluten without consciously noting it (not sure if they unconsciously/unknowingly saw it listed though).

[@adorabell4253]

@@letsomethingshine Gluten allergies are a thing separate from gluten intolerance and from celiac or ibs. It’s always a good idea to get tested for things if you can. My sister, after years of thinking she had a gluten sensitivity, recently learned that she has ibs and her symptoms were the result of that. She’s 28.

[@yeoldemcnugget]

Dr. Peterson is my favorite clinical psychologist, neuroscientist, astrobiologist, evolutionary biologist, mechanical engineer, fashion designer, male model, actor, historian, climate scientist, marine biologist, firefighter, Olympic swimmer, renal nurse, brain surgeon, and ballet dancer. It's unimaginable how one man could have accomplished so much and obtained so many PhDs in such a short amount of time , but alas, here he is in all his glory.

[@brendanjoyce4285]

Mine is Johnny Sins

[@oskarlibelle1769]

Can you link his ballet dances? I'd love to see them

[@emilianopapagna9616]

I prefer Johnny sins. Maybe not so academically inclined but he sure as hell has had a lot of different jobs in a short amount of time.

[@sharadinduchakraborty7696]

@Lucas Santos how many Phd do you have?

[@ManticTRIGGER]

@@sharadinduchakraborty7696 if we are going on Peterson logic all of them

[@lucys.4695]

Peterson overlooking monopoly in Monopoly game and making out of it some godly law is hilarious.

[@RinZ3993]

I guess he wouldn't play Catan cuz that doesn't follow his distribution law by any stretch of the imagination (lol) By the end of that, people are usually very close to each other. In a game with 4 players there might be 1 or 2 that are a couple of points behind but nr 1 and 2 are really close and 3 often follows quickly behind There are so many examples of games that really do not follow Peterdaughter his rules

[@benedictrogers1478]

​@@RinZ3993I find Carcassonne to be the opposite of Catan, in that it's seemingly designed to end with a vast points difference due to the way farmers work and how large fields are incentivised. But it still manages to keep scores relatively level until that final counting, and going too heavy on farmers leaves you with no resources during the game itself.

[@_KnuXles]

His logic of "Why try if we won't see the results" reminds me of a brilliant ancient Greek proverb; Society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they will never sit in

[@bleemwisspillow8686]

Interviewer: "Have you ever answered a yes or no question with a one-word response?" JP: "Well, see, as a world-class linguist I have to say it depends on what you mean by 'word.' Do you mean the smallest unit of meaningful language? In that case, what would 'well' have meant in the beginning of my response just now? And by 'answer' do you mean just a response to a question or are there any underpinnings of having to 'answer to' someone in a hierarchical sense? Because hierarchies change the context of the question being asked to less of a casual, optional answer into more of a demand, even if it's unintentional, due to power structures. And that's because these, let's say, power structures have been around since time immemorial. Lobsters have power structures. But you know what social construct they didn't have? Infanticide. And I can confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt, since I'm a fully-credentialed marine biologist because I've been going to the aquarium and studying the animals there for 40 years, that lobsters have no rules about infanticide. In fact, if we go back further in evolutionary history, which I can speak to as an evolutionary biologist, we see that many species, in fact, had no gender roles and no particular role at all in the life of offspring. This was before trees and lobsters, so it must be hardwired into our brains to not care for our young and have no distinguishable gender roles. But if we're going by the most numerous animals on earth, we have to at least look to ants to figure out how we should structure gender in society. One queen who flies around, mates, and pumps out babies until she does while a harem of men provide her with a huge mansion and are at her beck and call. But wouldn't that be discrimination based on gender? Not if you're a cultural Marxist. That's just the type of matriarchal society they want. I know this because I, myself, am a professor of feminist studies. So, in answer to your question, I don't think that we should allow pineapples on pizza unless the top is the hearty meat because we can't have sweetness represented as the topmost layer, as sweetness is often permissiveness and is therefore chaos. We must temper this with order, which is the meaty structure of the ham."

[@Rosemy12]

For real the man can't even start his answers with a yes or no 🤣🤣🤣. You could ask him if he likes cake and he'd give you a whole paper on baked goods and still somehow never answer your question🤣

[@rockinbobokkin7831]

A for effort. A for awesome dedication to the gag.

[@deadNightwatchman]

Too short and needs more lobsters.

[@alkaholic4848]

But on the other hand, it's the oldest trick in the interviewer/debater's book to try to summarise a complex topic that cannot be answered with yes/no, and say "it's a yes no question", even though it really isn't, to try to force the person they're interviewing / arguing with into saying something that misrepresents what they really mean and can be used against them.

[@grumylynn]

😂😂😂

[@AoiTheLaughingMan]

I am a qualified chemist. I specialise in medicinal chemistry. I am qualified to speak on these topics with authority and expertise. This means that if I start speaking about the 2015 economic state of Uganda, I have absolutely no idea what the hell I am talking about and should not be given more weight in the discussion than any other participant. People need to stop pretending that being an academic makes you qualified to speak about any random field.

[@corneliahanimann2173]

well it's one thing to speak about it and another to speak about things with a sense of authority. I'm in the corner of mechanical engineering, and a licensed car mechanic. When it comes to mechanics and how to fix your car, I don't think it's wrong of me to speak like I have more knowledge and experience with that to tell you what is best for your car (and if you tell me your budget, we can find a compromise for what can be done and pursue a solution together) but when it comes to medicine, I'm clueless, so if I speak about health or medicine or even biology I either read about it and cite my sources, or I am transparent about how I actually am not a person that has an educated opinion on that matter. Even if I read a lot of studies, I have not learned about the topic in the step by step way you'd learn in a class, where the boring but important information is taught aswell. Anyone that is educated in the field of science does know that no one speaks about science in absolute ways, all we have are theories that need further investigation for clarification, so that is another thing about Peterson. He doesn't use the little science he does know, the way a scientist would.

[@schnoz2372]

It’s also because he just uses big words in an attempt to sound smart, and to make complete gibberish sound thoughtful. And of course the generic self help shit makes him seem like a caring father figure to them.

[@larsbee]

but ... but ... listen ... ur qualification means u can read and comprehend other stuff as well ... therefore JP here is a jack of all trade master in ... everything oh c'mon now

[@trybunt]

Up yours, woke moralist. I'm just kidding, I totally agree

[@wcg66]

You can be sure JP has an opinion on chemistry and the economy of Uganda. In both cases, he will say, they are suffering from the ill effects of cultural marxism and post modernist academia destroying the fabric of society.

[@williamdavidpitt9938]

Love how he said you don't throw out Neitzsche because of the odd weird statement but then throws out the entire tradition of Marxism from a half-assed partial reading of the Manifesto.

[@matthewwakeman5047]

Who does Peterson think did edit the Bible? It wasn't one person, it was quite literally a committee.

[@Ugly_German_Truths]

Very likely a large number of those as the bible has been a work in progress sinc ethe first story was told orally at an ancient camp fire...

[@afri205]

This is such a small things ,but as a neuroscientist I got real upset when he said serotonin was *the* most important chemical in the brain. It really isn't. If *any* neurotransmitter is used all over the brain, the closest we could come to that is glutamate or GABA. But really they're all vital and play their own roles. There is no hierarchy of neurotransmitters 😉

[@jodajoda2863]

It's because EVERYTHING has to have a hierarchy to him. There NEEDS to be a hierarchy. There just has to be, there is no situation where there is not a hierarchy in his mind. It's obviously ridiculous, but it's his ideology.

[@benjaf1058]

#Neurotransmittersarenotlobsters

[@jalalasif3898]

@@jodajoda2863 To add to what you've said, I find that JP uses hierarchy in a different way entirely. To him, any event where more than one choices/possibilities exist, the representation becomes a hierarchy. Whether it's choosing between a sandwich and an ice-cream, or choosing to ask a question vs not asking it (like that student) - the formulation of all such situations are (to JP) hierarchical. He broadens the scope of the word so much that it becomes too entirely ubiquitous.

[@JohnEusebioToronto]

He's not a neuroscientist. He doesn't know shit about neuroscience. That shit pissed me off too. He's a psychologist, so he's probably learned SOME neuroscience, but it's way out of his wheelhouse. His specialty is personality and social psychology. The guy just likes talking out of his ass.

[@platzpropeller858]

I would say the most important chemical in the brain is water

[@markoceh8751]

The Peterson Pattern actually reminds me of a great lesson in critical thinking I had some years back. We were reading Platos Republic and our class created a thing where we defended Thrasymachus because we were so amazed that his description of how society works was still applicable today. Our teacher told us "It's true that he provides an analysis of *what* and *why* things are, but ask yourself *does he explain why is it OK that things are what they are*"

[@johannageisel5390]

Good approach! I also like the approach that the very thing that makes us human is that we do NOT accept the world as it naturally is. Humans started being humans when they started changing the world around themselves. Using fire and tools, healing diseases with medicine, building machines to do the work for us... Why should we not try to change the "natural necessity" of hierarchies if we don't like them? We've changed everything else already!

[@enfercesttout]

Which is a weird flex, because in Plato's version rulers purposefully lie to the masses so they would submit to a hierarchy as far as we can tell is completely arbitrary. He would have them to believe people to be born with golden silver or bronze in their souls. Just as Peterson is doing here.

[@lookbovine]

By okay you mean “just”? Very probing to ask in the dialogue about justice and what being just means.

[@christophergreen6595]

Thrasymachus lives in a fascist worldview. Might is right, justice is the rule of the strong, and their rule proves they are just. Yep.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

@@lookbovine Yeah, but that's why Plato is a genius. He was the first to identify LANGUAGE (and the semiotics of language) as the fundamental barrier to truth and understanding. His work was one of the first deconstructions of recursiveness in language and it took 1000 years - really until Ludwig Wittgenstein - for us to realize this. So you get Plato's Forms which exist outside the conscious, or rather cognitive, purview of language but still exist as real, unchanging virtues we should aspire towards. And there are entire schools of thought on what it means to be "just" from Utilitarianism (of Mills and Bentham), to Kantian deontology to Rawls work on justice. It's like asking what being "free" means. Isiah Berlin makes the distinction between positive freedom (freedom to do something) and negative freedom (the freedom from something). Which "freedom" is more "free?" This is why we need to teach ETHICS. Right and Wrong are not easy subjects to reason about and philosophy has, correctly, spend an inordinate times fleshing out this question. Aristotle's theory of means is a decent starting point (albeit with deep flaws when you try to extrapolate the idea to society writ large in the form of laws, so even Aristotle has limits).

[@zachyrish2682]

This video is absolutely necessary. I have a friend who is obsessed with Jordan, and I had to smoke many of his videos and lectures. I couldn't understand how my friend could believe so much crap. He got so much hooked up on Jordan that my friend, a once absolute atheist and scientificist, now considers himself a neo-christian and obsessively chases Jordan. I just can't explain how frustrating it is to have lost an intellectual pair, we used to discuss so many interesting things, and now his worries are about marriage and the role of men. Sadly pathetic

[@justalonelypoteto]

have you considered suggesting you watch this video together and discuss it? might be a worthwhile endeavor

[@mindbent7556]

Sounds like a man that just re-attached his balls to me 😂

[@nocbvideos6458]

Start by showing him that JP is atually an atheist

[@buddyflood6761]

That's how I feel about some of my friends that think trump actually is working for the people and can't see what a POS HE US!!

[@MrSaxobeat020]

Some humans are easier to manipulate, I have noticed you just have to show yourself in a very dominating and smart way. Jordan knows that's why he sits, dresses, talks like that.

[@noahcarver4232]

Mathematician here: the "pareto principle" is just a (hyper simplified) log-normal distribution. it describes exponential growth. saying that the distribution makes wealth inequality 'natural' (and therefor inevitable and good) is like saying that hydrogen bombs are natural and good because mushroom clouds look like mushrooms. Its the same "looks like" logic that drives young earth creationists to claim the earth is flat. edit: shouldve finished watching before making a comment. Props on yall for doing the math

[@damienretro4416]

Actually, Peterson didn't say that the Pareto principle is "good" He just said that it exists. He also regularly states that inequality is a problem but don't let that get in the way of your prejudice.

[@hiddenechoes]

I always love hearing math thoughts (not sarcasm, absolutely love it)

[@stanhill236]

@@damienretro4416 that might mean something if Peterson didn't have a history of equating something being natural and something being good. Just because he doesn't explicitly say 'this is natural and therefore good' every time doesn't mean that isn't the conclusion he wants you to make.

[@ninjatoriumnova2483]

@@damienretro4416 He didn't just say it exists, he tried to apply it to a whole bunch of different, unrelated stuff, and did so without providing any evidence. That's without mentioning that even trying to argue that an economic principle is an immutable fact which somehow relates to natural occurrences is magical thinking that is as scientific as a horoscope.

[@McDonaldsCalifornia]

​@@damienretro4416 he says it exists but doesn't contend with the reasons why it exists. That is exactly the point you seem to be missing

[@chaosactually311]

I'm an hour and 15 minutes in and while I AM going to finish this video, this is about 2 hours and 50 minutes of Jordan Peterson more than I normally tolerate.

[@CallowG]

Any time spent watching Jordan Peterson is time you'll never get back. Cody needs to produce a shorter version where all the dang Jordan Peterson is edited out.

[@dragonspartan9031]

You were told NOT TO LOOK AT THE TIME STAMP!

[@Jeremy-ql1or]

Actually, the five minute Peterson clips are often pretty interesting. They are just some psychological take on some person from history or their motivations. When he goes on for more than five minutes, on the other hand, they end up being two hours of gibberish.

[@agreetodisagree8256]

For real

[@mauirandall8176]

him saying "egg" in response to Joe Rogan saying chicken in a sentence has honestly held me over for most of the video

[@rachelb4339]

What a short and concise video! I watched it in the statistically proven best way to retain data of watching 20% of the video while focused and in complete order. Then the rest of the 80% of the video I watched in complete chaos while eating a lobster.

[@TheEmmakathryn]

As intended

[@utg8suitedaa701]

Hold on, was the chaos eating the lobster metaphorically or we dont know yet?

[@bballforever100]

@@utg8suitedaa701 well it's complicated.. what is chaos, what is eating, what are lobsters? What do we know, what don't we know, what will we know? These things mean so much that they actually don't mean anything, but why do men lay bricks? It's the natural law of hierarchy!

[@vladimir-ep4xk]

@@bballforever100 Well, there is certainly a natural order of animals, a hierarchy so to speak. In this order lobsters, which are certainly animals, have a consciousness that is assuredly comparable to human hierarchies. In that matter, the lobster has significantly more chances to be eaten by a superior being, the human, than the inverse. So I think that while lobsters are an admirable animal, it is the responsibility of our society to analyze the inevitability of this hierarchy, a hierarchy that is to be overturned if we follow the tenets of Cultural Marxism. In conclusion, I would say that lobsters are definitely animals and humans are objectively higher in the natural hierarchy. I hope this answered all your questions.

[@rifter0x0000]

You should eat the lobster that beats all the others to crawl out of the tank, because he has succeeded and some cultures say devouring the strong confers their strength upon you.

[@user-tc3tp3et3n]

I used to listen to him until I heard him say sexual abuse should be considered sexual abuse when the male parts of the family feel like it's sexual abuse. I was sexual molested by two of my cousin brothers when I was only 6 and they are supposed to be the "male parts" of the family. He thinks something has to be noticed by a man in order for it to be taken into consideration

[@luna-p]

Utterly egregious

[@MrSaxobeat020]

Even men get sexually assaulted, so many men in our society refuse to believe men can get harassed too. Jordan doesn't care about men or women, he is just a straight up psychopath and a grifter.

[@duderyandude9515]

It's wild to me that people can hear Jorpson say something so blatantly misogynistic and not come to the conclusion that he's a misogynist. Well, that and everything else that he has said.

[@oskarkuelz2706]

I mean. The way he talked to that student was so telling. The young man was so polite and open for a different viewpoint, saying stuff like "of course" and acknowledging the points where he is on level with the prof. The answer? A very weird repetitive "No! Not of course!" as if he was talking to a bad puppy. What a tool. Not open to discussion or even a normal talk.

[@tabathaalshalhoub1653]

It is telling. I know when I was younger and wanted to talk the “big things” like politics and religion with people, they’d scoff and say things like “you’re young, wait until you’re mature” or some other nonsense. And it was so miserable, wanting to actually discuss things, maybe change minds, maybe come to a consensus… and to be talked down to. To be patronized in such an obvious and ridiculous way. I had the best discussion (about abortion) with a guy my own age who was very set in his opinion & me in mine, but we were very polite with each other and recognized each other’s valid points. It was a thought provoking conversation, one that I think about from time to time, just because it was one of the first times that I, as a young 20s, was not dismissed out of hand for no other reason than my age (or my opposing opinions).

[@eugenefullstack7613]

@@tabathaalshalhoub1653 The funny thing about that is that traditionally young people are way more passionate about ideological debates, and their views are less tainted by endless nihilism caused by a long difficult life. In other words, maturity does not equal more insight, if anything the opposite is true in my experience. Old people are typically way more jaded and much less open-minded, which is not surprising or even a controversial take, that's just how people are.

[@tabathaalshalhoub1653]

@@eugenefullstack7613 I will have to add that I’ve always hated that song “I wish that I knew what I know now when I was younger” but there are some things I’ve learned as I have gotten older. But it hasn’t made me talk condescendingly to younger people. I even teach 5 year olds and I treat their questions with respect, even if it gets us off topic (because the focus should be about learning, being excited to learn, how to answer questions, etc and not “we have to do these pages today”).

[@jarrahkron9]

As an actual PhD student in neuroscience, the moment someone claims there's a "most fundamental neurotransmitter", you've demonstrated your neuroscience knowledge is completely and fundamentally incorrect lmao JP lobster mobsters are funny

[@sarapocorn]

I got a Master‘s in Evolutionary Ecology and oh boy do I feel your pain.

[@derennickerson6569]

I wish more people could see your comment so I'm replying on it in the hopes that the AI algorithmic gods will push it up.

[@kiralonely1307]

also replying to help more people see this. I love it when people actually know neuroscience. I'm not at all a professional or taking classes but I love the biology and it makes me so giddy to see people talking about it realistically :DDD (also unlike JP I don't ever claim to know what I'm talking about beyond having read studies/data on it, lol. I am far from someone you should take the word of, I just wanna spread more correct information and will always actively request people to correct me if I'm false about something, preferably with a source I can look into so I can fool around in my science nerd zone again lmao.)

[@Tennababy]

@@sarapocorn cue up a forum dedicated to all the fields where JP is a scientist but with actual scientists critiquing his takes

[@ruthannshockley6271]

lobster mobster

[@chrisstroesser6563]

If you can explain complex issues in a simple way, you are a genius If you can explain simple issues in a complex way, you are Jordan Peterson

[@alkaholic4848]

If you can explain complex issues in a simple way, then it's probably a crude summary that omits vitally important information, that leads to very incorrect assumptions.

[@adelina2000ac]

@@alkaholic4848a simple way doesn’t necessarily mean a short way. You can go in a lot of detail but lay it out simply so that it can be understood. That’s what they’re trying to teach us at uni in UK at least.

[@TigerPrawn_]

Exactly Chris. Except I wouldn't say a genius, I would say a good teacher is able to make difficult concepts easy to understand.

[@ElijahRosenberg38]

Democrats can’t even explain what a woman is 😂 and you all say he makes things more complicated? 😂

[@digbycrankshaft7572]

@@ElijahRosenberg38 most repubtards can't explain anything. That's why they're repubtards. 🤣

[@TATERplaysGAMES]

Jordan Peterson is a master of sounding as if he knows what he's talking about in a way any actual expert on the topic could recognize as bullshit, but sounds believable to someone who is not.

[@mkkrupp2462]

Fantastic analysis of this ego driven know it all. Thank you!

[@TBOTSS]

That is the problem Peterson does know what he is talking about. This KZbinr does not.

[@countvondutchessofwestmoor3974]

@@TBOTSS that is the genuine conclusion you reached after watching this video? that a disgraced psychologist is a veritable source on climate or art history?

[@revwroth3698]

Peterson exemplifying his rule about precision of language again by deliberately confusing the definitions of "climate", "environment", and "universe". Absolutely brilliant. *headdesks repeatedly*

[@mj.l]

it's like he's a professional hypocrite

[@kendanger6874]

I listened to an interview with him and besides being super pissed at him for intentionally misgendering and deadnaming Elliot Page repeatedly, it struck me he was being super pedantic to the point of ignorance. Like pretending not to know how people commonly use terms and phrases. Just like the opening clips in this video. He seems super disingenuous

[@procrastinator99]

*THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP*

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@kendanger6874 , In a Debate about Atheism... he changed the definitions for "god", "religion", "truth", and a few other things...

[@andrewcamden]

It's funny that he'll be talking about being scientific in our definitions and respecting the real meanings of words one minute and saying that words have no meaning and science is overrated the minute the topic changes from gender to climate. Like most other Americans, he only believes in science insofar as it is convenient to his ideology.

[@hl1342]

I feel very bad for the people asking Peterson a simple yes or no question.

[@henglish3398]

Nobody usually does. It’s always some complex issue that doesn’t have a Yes/No answer.

[@kappascopezz5122]

@@henglish3398 Except that Jordan Peterson doesn't need a "complex issue" for him to do this sort of stuff. Regardless of how simple the question is, he'll just battle you on the semantics and point out that it would be possible to use bad definitions for some words and how those definitions aren't very useful and therefore the question can't really be answered. There is a large number of examples of this cited in Alex O'Connor's video on JP's views on religion, like when he's asked "do you think the events of the Bible really happened", that would normally be a simple "yes", "no" or "I'm uncertain", but instead he starts to go all stoner about what reality really is and what it means to "happen". Though I can't entirely blame him, because one part of this would be that giving a simple answer seems boring, so he might just be going through different interpretations to make the answer give more insight, but that shouldn't be used as an excuse to not actually give an answer.

[@stacymethvin3426]

Yes, it's very hard for so many people to listen to real meaningful content isn't it? Poor lost souls who couldn't care about the truth much less allow themselves to consider the human condition to the point that they may find themselves responsible for the advancement of society.

[@DiabloTommaso]

​@@stacymethvin3426 you didn t watch this video and that much is clear. But what neaning did you find in his worlds?

[@brittaunfiltered4878]

He would be an attorney's worst nightmare on the stand. Attorney: So you say you were home on the night of July 16, is that correct? Peterson: Well define night, and what is home? Attorney:🤦

[@kazeh728]

I like to imagine that Jordan J. Jorpson P. Peterson watches this video once a month, crying throughout, and concludes every time that even though the portrayal of him is accurate, "there's just nothing he can do about it... so, no"

[@Tapecutter59]

"They haven't read the litratue, they don't even know it exists". ~JP Sounds like projection.

[@conorford7852]

Considering his lies about ADHD all stem from a single study on rats in the 70s, it is 100% projection

[@Wimikk]

Oh I’ve heard of this guy, and how smart AND normal he is.

[@Subsandsoda]

VERY normal. Having a beef only diet, putting himself in a coma in Russia to get over benzo addiction and feeling impending doom and sleep deprivation for 25 days after drinking apple cider.

[@eminatorstudios]

@@Subsandsoda "fucking cider..."

[@The_Cadaver]

Stop misrepresenting daddy Peterson, bucko!

[@YouTube_can_ESAD]

@@Subsandsoda Bingo.🎯

[@Mikkamel]

Leave him alone! He was great in Muppets on Treasure Island!

[@videogamenostalgia]

I know he has an insanely over-inflated ego, but Peterson genuinely staring into middle distance for 15 seconds to ponder if he might be a religious prophet is on an entirely different level.

[@maciejgrenda216]

not a fan (anymore) but now I kinda pity him, his brain seems scrambled eggs at this point

[@deadlight88]

@@maciejgrenda216 I feel like he was in a better place to be in the public eye before he nearly died. Likely should have stepped down after that.

[@Alex-ni6xs]

You know he really wanted to answer "yes" to that question but restrained himself because he realises just how egotistical it sounds

[@nfzeta128]

​@@Alex-ni6xs I think that may be closer to what really happened there.

[@FedeKai95]

Is creepy af.

[@jaysun9987]

This video was an eye-opener . Jordan Peterson is unhinged mentally

[@conorford7852]

He's gotten even worse since this came out

[@user-wm7et9vx3m]

@@conorford7852 it's been a really bad year for his sanity.

[@natfoote4967]

I'm not a psychologist, although I work with them, but even with my degree in English language and rhetoric I can see how he is using his training to tell a segment of the population what they want to hear in order to achieve fame and fortune. He's sucking the money nozzle. This is a shocking, nauseating misuse of scholarly acumen. Perhaps he is so tormented because he is aware of what he has become.

[@potaterjim]

As an Albertan, realizing he got his education at Grande Prairie answers literally every single question I ever had about this man.

[@AdobadoFantastico]

Care to elaborate for the rest of us? This sounds like it'll be a fun explanation.

[@mikaelste-marie1275]

Yeah I am curious about that too.

[@chriss790]

Know next to nothing about Canada but just a wiki blurb about Grande Prairie at the time tells one enough about his climate science perception: "The town of Grande Prairie was incorporated as a city in 1958. At that time, its population was approximately 7,600. The opening of the Procter & Gamble kraft pulp mill in 1972 and the discovery of the Elmworth deep basin gas field spurred an economic boom. Grande Prairie's population went from just over 12,000 in the early 1970s to over 24,000 by the time the oil boom went bust in 1981." JP got there in 1979.

[@chriss790]

One should also perhaps mention that Fairview where he went to school CURRENTLY is a town of 2500, the same as it was in c.1970. Some towns in Greenland I visited have more people than that and in terms of things to do you could get on a boat to do some fishing or get gazeboed on the regular with rye vodka. Ever seen There Will Be Blood with Daniel Day Lewis? JP may as well be the preacher kid

[@scaryteri8]

@@AdobadoFantastico The simple answer is Alberta is kind of like the Canadian version of Texas. Not confederate really though, because we all got that great Canadian public education, we know Canada had the Underground Railroad ect...so our convoy members and free thinkers have gone for modern xenophobia and general racism like White Replacement theory like flies to sugar. In my rural high school musical we removed the gay characters from A Chorus line. That was in the 2000s. Albertan conservatives and libertarians have gotten terrible since Covid. Some of the people I went to high school with are starting to say the universal healthcare system is communism and its just dangerous because the Conservative party will happily push a private system if given power. Alberta is an oil and gas rich province, and a lot of young guys in my hometown ended up as riggers and then truck drivers. Now they:re out of work and on Covid or unemployment payments half the year. It:s that kind of place.

[@AnotherChampagneSocialist]

He makes up stories and gets so moved by the stories he makes up it's really impressive.

[@nfzeta128]

That specific one with the fellow calling in almost sounded like there was no call and he was just 'talking' to himself. Of course that could just be because the caller reminded him of himself.

[@gracegiak3427]

That's spot on!

[@iamthewalrus4998]

He has the same Guru-complex as Russell Brand. Grifting political influencers who are so full of themselves that they get moved by their own words.

[@abitofmoxiee]

Then there’s my dumb ass over here watching this and crying because he’s crying even though I know it’s nonsense 😂

[@pyrmontbridge4737]

Strange how I hadn't previously heard Peterson's take on climate change, but as soon the phrase was mentioned I knew what his position would be. These conservatives are so predictable.

[@maikchange]

You know who are REALLY unpredictable? Radical Leftists

[@breandadavis3168]

'Sit up straight' Cody: Never! 'Be precise when you speak' Cody: Blemfer So fucking brilliant

[@UtterlyMuseless]

The story of the farmer and the chicken is about how expecting the status quo to continue unabated can leave you fatally helpless when circumstances change, which is why we should do nothing about climate change.

[@duane6386]

That feels like it’s saying the opposite, like we should do something about climate change

[@lepus6511]

@@duane6386 but the models have errors so we can't 🤷🏼

[@therabbithat]

@@duane6386 no, it's clear from the story that we need to do nothing about climate change. Maybe another story will help you: Cassandra saw in a dream that a great disaster was coming and begged the people of their town to prepare. Almost no one believed her, and those that did felt they were too busy to prepare and that they would just hope that things would work out somehow. Then the disaster came and everyone died. I hope that helps

[@francispowell1811]

@@therabbithat 😂

[@UtterlyMuseless]

@@therabbithat This dude gets it.

[@TheNormExperience]

Jordan Peterson: “Pride goeth before a fall!” Also Jordan Peterson: “I’d rather DIE than delete my tweet!”

[@fdakis]

Talk about a lack of self-awareness right? 😅

[@TheNormExperience]

@@fdakis seriously!

[@ishner]

Ehh... "I would defend to the death the right of some idiot to say stupid wrong shit" is an underlying cornerstone of free society. Why should we scorn that he is willing to die for his own right to say stupid wrong shit?

[@TheNormExperience]

@@ishner true. It’s just the hypocrisy of him attacking others for things he constantly does that makes it so hard to ignore. It’s not so much his theories or beliefs as his vehement denial they aren’t theories/ beliefs, but undeniable facts. It’s his claims of; “That’s just a non-starter. You’re WRONG!” That gets under my skin. I hope that made sense.

[@dmob881]

@@ishner But surely you would also defend to the death someone's right scorn someone else for saying stupid s^^t?

[@majidemami577]

I kept postponing this video for so long because it is three hours. As I am watching it, I realize that three hours may not be long enough to cover all the absurdity that is JBP! Great work as always!

[@Worldbuilder]

There are two kinds of people who become therapists. Those who wants to help others, and those who *really* need help themselves. I… do believe JBP falls solidly into the second category…

[@TheModdedwarfare3]

This video, despite being extremely short, was so densely packed with information it took me almost 3 hours to watch.

[@Happytravellerkimmy]

It's like a tardis of facts.

[@dzonbrodi514]

Perfect comment

[@vannalaws1692]

@@sycoutuber92 I disagree. You're completely leaving out his further points on hierarchy, mainly that there are other types of hierarchy found in nature than the one very specific type JP wants to talk about and that the complex, human-made hierarchies JP tries to equate to natural hierarchies are not, in fact, natural. Talking about the common ancestor of a worm and lobster aggression was to highlight how JP uses false science to back up his opinions and present them as fact, which immediately calls into question the validity of the opinion.

[@MyChevySonic]

I learned everything I needed to know about climate change when ExxonMobil already did the research, covered it up, and spent a ton of money lobbying against it.

[@uncannyvalley2350]

33% of the Senate is Roman Catholic, vs 22% of the population. Chairman of the Fed Jerome Powell, everyone involved in Jan 6, and 7/9 judges of the Supreme Court. The founders of the CIA, FBI, DC and the designers of the Pentagon were all Catholic, so too Tucker Carlson, Beck, Hannity, Spicer, O'Reilly, Ingram, Pence, Hawley, Blasio, Manafort, Prince, Devos, Kavanuagh, Barrett, Gates, Fauci, Abbott, Manchin, Comey, Rogan, Jones, Dore, Kulinksi, Walsh, Rubin, Pool, Peterson, Dice, Cernovich, Crowder, Molyneux, Fuentes, Yilanopouse, Pompeo, Spencer, Bolton, Abrams, Stone, Desantis, Bezos, Cuomo, Pelosi, Biden, Maddow, Colbert, Hayes, Cooper, Toocy, McEnany, Collins, Rubio, Cruz, Gutfeld, Mattis, Richardson, Ryan, Huckabee, Gingrich, Sessions, Guiliani, Flynn, Bannon, Barr, Christie, Richardson, Melania, Kelly, Kilmeade, Doocy, Conway, Greene, Gionet, Johnson, May, Blair, Thatcher, Trudeau, Merkle, Tusk, Farage, Morgan, Cowell, Ventura, Bolsanaro, Putin, Posobiec, Corbett, Robinson, Woods, Icke, Camp, Duke, Kirk, Watson, Iverson, Ball, House. 7/9 Supreme Court Justices are Roman Pro life is a foundational Roman tenet. "The NWO will begin Sept 17th 2001 during Rosh Hashanah Feast of Trumpets, Resurrection of the Dead, the year 6000 of the Great Pyramid Calendar, in order to cleanse the Earth and Humanity in preparation for his Kingdom on Earth" British Israel Foundation memo 1922. Same year Boris Johnson's Great Grandad and Architect of the Armenian genocide Mustafa Ali Kemal sent Trump's Grandad Baron Don Von Drumph to America from Vienna Bavaria, Capital of the Holy Roman Empire. Same place Hitler, Stalin, Lenin, Trotsky, Tito, Orwell, Freud, and Boris Johnson's Great Grandad have lived and come from, as well as Einstein. Oil giants Shell and BP are planning for global temperatures to rise as much as 5°C by the middle of the century. The level is more than double the upper limit committed to by most countries in the world under the Paris Climate Agreement, which both companies publicly support. Oct 27, 2017 (BP and Shell expecting catastrophic 5°C global warming by 2050) Methane from Beef farming makes up 52% of all greenhouse gases, and is 90% subsidized subsidised. Banning Beef subsidies could stall climate change overnight, but guess who runs the Beef Racket... "If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ. 'Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...' Let Him Be Anathama." -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II On Baptism 1545AD Matthew 3:11: “I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire.” The fire in this passage refers to the fire or inspiration of the Holy Spirit. "Furthermore we declare we proclaim we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation, that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff" Pope Boniface VIII, "Unam Sanctam" (Rome 1302) "There is no graver offense than heresy... and therefore it must be rooted out with fire and sword" Catholic Encyclopedia volume 14 (1911): 767-768 "A heretic merits the pains of fire... by the Gospel, the canons, civil law and custom, heretics must be burned" American Textbook of Popery p164 (quoting from the directory for the Inquisitors) "The true baptism is not by water but fire." Prophyry of Tyre 300AD "I propose an Aryan Semitic Alliance to create a superior Caucasian race" UK PM Benjamin Disraeli 1890 "Today I declare the Crusades won" General Edmunde Allenby upon capturing Jerusalem 1917 "But they want nothing but Palestine, because Palestine constitutes the geostrategic center of world control" Dr Nehum Goldmann, 1957, founder of the World Jewish Congress and President of the World Zionist Organization _"I have a foreboding of an America in my children's or my grandchildren's time when the US is a service and information economy, when nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries, when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgably question those in authority, when clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without noticing back into superstition and darkness."_ _"The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of substantive content and the enormously influential media. The thirty second soundbite, now down to ten seconds or less, lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudo science and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance."_ Carl Sagan 1995 Representative Democracy hasn't worked in over 50 years because politicians will always come from the monied classes and be beholden to their Corporate Donors, only way we avoid this apocalypse is to stage a Velvet Revolution to install a Scaled Direct Democracy. Citizen Initiated Referendums with thresholds and a Social Contract using Blockchain technology means communities can vote their own policies without parties or politicians. Banning Beef, Oil, and Fishing Subsidies would stall climate change and habitat degradation overnight. Thorium Energy renders their global oil monopoly obsolete. Police can be actively policed by an independent public authority with the power to prosecute bad actors in our own courts. Or we can bend over and accept our Orwellian future

[@G0DofRock]

Then Peterson told us it was all meaningless lol

[@turingmachine7905]

Perfect. No notes.

[@Palemagpie]

Then openly admitted to doing it, with malicious intent, the second someone pretended to offer a job opportunity to like a senior manager. And recorded the whole thing.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

@@Palemagpie Wait, this part really happened?? Please post a link so I can read more about this. The IOCs are evil (I should know, I worked for one years ago).

[@bigglyfabulous]

I cant believe I sat and watched a 3 hour video on youtube and was thoroughly entertained. Bravo.

[@heidigrace7259]

This was a damn hard watch. I feel like JP's entire fan base is gaslighting us because I'm completely missing why he is even mildly impressive. What a joke.

[@WikiSorcerer]

For a guy who hates postmodernism so much, Jordan sure loves dancing around language to beat it into a shape that he wants it to be.

[@Graknorke]

he doesn't really know what postmodernism is so he just used the word to describe stuff he assumes his enemies do since he also does it

[@frankvonfrauner]

If you actually studied the canon and historical representations of meaning you'd understand how ignorant your viewpoint is.

[@palmereldritch_6669]

Peterson is a bullshit artist. He likes to string big words together in an effort to mask the absurdity of his positions with word vomit complexity. I've seen acardemics do this a lot to prevent other scientists from questioning their methodology and/or conclusions. But Peterson isn't even all that great at it. It's a little confounding that people fall for it, but then again think of the MILLIONS of rubes who bought Trumps endless stream of mouth excrement and he was plainly a huckster at best. I guess there are always going to be vulnerable and gullible people out there.

[@guillaumelagueyte1019]

What does for mean? What does a mean? What does guy mean? What does who mean? What does hates mean? What does postmodernism mean? What does so mean? What does much mean? What does Jordan mean? Oh wait that's me, but what am I? [goes on to stare at the ceiling and cry for 5 minutes]

[@DJ_Spazzy]

He plays your game against you and shows how misguided you are.

[@patrickbranchini378]

It's odd how those scientists that predicted the temperature rise, sea level rise, and all those other things they've BEEN EXACTLY RIGHT ABOUT, have so much "error" in their data. Those predictions were made 50+ year ago. With advances in both technology and our understanding of "eVeRyThInG" we pretty well know what is happening and going to happen.

[@nathang4283]

And when occasionally they where wrong, it was massively downplayed disasters.

[@andrejaeckle9828]

@@nathang4283 When did that ever happen? Can you give an example of such disaster? I am seriously curious.

[@emylily8266]

@@andrejaeckle9828 they downplayed the massive increase in emissions in the last 20 years, which caused an accelerated heating compared to their predictions.

[@wdviolet8434]

he probably just read The Black Swan and understood it extremely poorly

[@TheArtist808]

More than 100 years ago, at least 1912 according to news clippings

[@1111Paiste]

Completely brilliant and comprehensive assessment, starting with the ironic and humorous title. I’ve spent a lot of time watching and reading about cults and their leaders and about halfway through the video I started saying to myself, 'this guy sounds a lot like a cult leader'. If anyone is familiar with the HBO documentary “The Vow” which exposes the self-help cult NXIVM and its imprisoned ex-leader Keith Raniere (KR), you will recognize the similarities between Peterson and Raniere. My wife and I’ll also follow the podcast “A Little Bit Culty” and one of the hosts, Nippy, speaks often of KR’s use of ‘word-salad’ to manipulate, confuse and draw in less susceptible people, you will also recognize Peterson’s use of word-salad to do the same.

[@TheGodlyNoob]

Omg this is my favorite channel

[@usernamelastname7741]

Omg hi

[@christianj5950]

I want to make a small note of Peterson's ramble around 57 minutes in about private school vs public school - as a Norwegian, this idea that its a divine or natural law that dictates (richer) people who go to private school are smarter than people who go to public school is very funny to me, because here, it's generally "accepted" that the big well-funded public universities and colleges are what you attend if you're smart enough to get through their selection programmes, whereas private school is something you buy your way into if you're rich but not good enough to get into the top public schools. Because public school is well-funded, we don't have that gap where all our politicians and business leaders went to private school (pretty much everyone here goes to public school, wealthy or poor, and school quality isn't based on your damn zip code), nor do we have the "joke" that public school is a bad education. Btw, I'm not even saying that its true that public university / high school attendees are smarter than those at private schools here, I'm just saying that as a point of showing how material conditions play into things like grades and success.

[@TragoudistrosMPH]

A major problem in the US is the trust conservatives put into what others tell them. If they looked at examples in the world, many of their world views would shatter. 😮‍💨 Asking them about hypothetical examples (or real ones, like yours) is like asking them to imagine society without gravity. :/

[@Eudaletism]

Here in the US a lot of private schools are highly religious, and some of them do provide a worse education than public school.

[@Michael_ORourke]

@@TragoudistrosMPH My biggest example of that is universal healthcare. Conservatives in the US like to say how it's a terrible idea while simultaneously ignoring that virtually every country on Earth has it and it can work very well.

[@owenkey3239]

@@Michael_ORourke and of people who actually appear to engage with the idea thoughtfully (they aren’t) like steven crowder - who uses his status as a canadian to make him seem more right - literally use like canada or the uk as their examples for problems, disregarding the fact that those countries have like the least effective implementations.

[@aaauto705]

Same here in Slovakia, private school is something you go to if you're not smart enough to go to a public school

[@dustinb8781]

I absolutely love when people with inflated egos say the wealth naturally disperses to the smartest and most capable. I got multiple letters from the white house in regards to getting the highest marks on standardized tests as a kid. I was on track to have my pick of university. Shit happened and my family ended up without a home for a time, been under the poverty line most of my adult life. I'm still just as "intelligent" but my circumstances changed and my opportunities dried up. I'm making 30k a year instead of 30k a minute because capitalism doesn't give a fuck about you if you don't have the means and a ton of luck

[@ms.bunniesarecute2287]

😔 I'm very sorry that happened to you. I have a similar story (ending up in poverty the majority of my adult life) despite being above average in schooling. It's very unfair, and I hate it when rich people write it off by saying "well life isn't fair buttercup, suck it up"...yeah, I realize that, and that's a huge problem because it could be fair...ya know? We live in the richest nation on earth, we had a complete psychopathic moron as president who was filthy rich for just being born into luxury. Yet, single mothers are starving, our parents would rather die than go into medical debt. Shit is beyond unfair, it's just fucking cruel! Anyways, take care friend and stay safe 😊

[@Toywins]

My story is the same...

[@floydammons5429]

I did really well at school and standardized tests. I grew up to become a teacher because it turned out the only thing I'm good at is school.

[@marcuswalters8093]

Capitalism doesn't value your intelligence or anything else you have to offer beyond your labour. I lament the number of unique and important minds we missed out on as they spent their lives stacking shelves in order to eat.

[@choronos]

If people had more empathy for each other, capitalism would die a natural death. Most of the employer class just straight up don't understand what it's like to work and not receive a fair wage. They might have worked hard in their day, but in their day, wages better matched labor. Most of them just don't get that the wages they're paying are causing their employees to struggle. It doesn't even cross their minds. You can see this attitude in the condescending signs on businesses all across the country decrying that "no one wants to work." Correction, employers: no one wants to work for what YOU'RE paying.

[@austinudy4150]

“What do you mean by everything?” “Well everything” ah what a genius

[@billedefoudre]

Hmm, yeah. Any guy that has that kind of super solid tone while hammering truths tend to make me think "ouuh, I really want to listen to that guy! He looks like he's the one who's right!" Which fortunately activates my spider sense, nowadays, screaming "guru alert! Guru alert! Pinch of salt!" Beware of anyone you FEEL is right.

[@jC-kc4si]

These 'gurus' know that most people won't dig deep into what they are saying and that they just need to always pretend to know what they are doing, if they ever admit they are wrong, they risk losing their loyal followers.

[@MacTruckBrickHouse]

As soon as he said, "I found out how to monetize social justice warriors." He lost any plausible deniability as a complacent and unknowing thinking man. Call him Shen Bapero.

[@fastfoodi]

Also, he misspoke. He didn't find out how to monetize social justice warriors. Instead, he found out how to monetize right wing nutjobs looking for an easy imaginary target upon which to exercise their misanthropy.

[@GiggaGMikeE]

He comes from the "I'm not racist, I just always seem to have something negative/passive aggressive to say every time I'm reminded that PoC exist" school of rational, balanced, unbiased thinking.

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

precisely....said the quiet part out loud

[@carlosfurtado1164]

I always thought that was a tongue-in-cheek comment

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

@@carlosfurtado1164 it's not....it's literally how he makes his money... he just said the quiet cynical part out loud

[@minidusa]

Seeing Joe Rogan trying to coax and actual answer out of JP is hilarious.

[@louisbullock5672]

you know something has gone horrifically wrong when joe rogan seems like a good interviewer

[@zatty232]

Lmaoooo, exactly my thought!

[@davidbourquebourquie8254]

actually watching the interview and realizing that this clown is lying to you and just pushing a narrative about JP is a lot more worth while.....

[@tomheeks2830]

@@louisbullock5672 It's not the achievement you think it is. This clown got schooled by Dave Rubin ffs.

[@Moonhermit-]

I like to underline this knowledge: *there are people who idolize a dude who talks so much actual bullcrap that Joe goddamn Rogan went "yeah, can you do all that again but now with an actual answer somewhere inbetween?"*

[@nati0598]

Asking Peterson for an answer to an yes or no question is like asking ChatGPT to write you an erotic novel.

[@WikiSorcerer]

Jordan Peterson answers all questions like he's a college freshman trying to pad out an essay to make it seem longer and more profound.

[@Stafus]

smoke and mirrors.

[@NoNTr1v1aL]

The sheer amount of people from different fields who have come out to roast everything he has said is impressive.

[@quintonchurch4064]

They're roasting his climate. Causing some kind of... climate change for him.

[@ince55ant]

whats concerning though is theres a fairly large number of professionals who are into him, including many therapists who suggest him to patients

[@guyincognito5663]

@@ince55ant That’s ‘cause he’s actually very good at this specific thing. He can help people. If only he could stfu about big political topics sometimes, jeez.

[@krismckasson]

@@guyincognito5663 because ,"try not to do or say anything stupid", is groundbreaking.

[@gwen9939]

@@guyincognito5663 He can help conservative young straight men who feels disenfranchised by a world that is moving further and further away from traditional masculinity as the staple identity at the top of the hierarchy. His rules for life isn't really a unique contribution to the self-help scene, it's just stay organized and be disciplined, but because he mirrors something these men either had in their upbringing and now feel is missing(stability in who you are and that being unquestionable), or they've never had it and always struggled with self-confidence he provides that angle. It's a small, inoffensive branch of his overarching conservative and socially regressive philosophy but as we've seen it easily acts as a gateway to the rest of his reactionary and anti-progressive ramblings. He's essentially offering a cop-out solution for young men questioning themselves, their self-worth, and their identity that just doesn't exist for any other group, whereas a woman who feels marginalized, or a queer person, or a black person will have to navigate a world and discover their own self-worth in spite of a world that doesn't think they should have any. He's basically telling these young men who have the exact same path in front of them that everyone else is wrong for telling them that they would also have to put in the same work as everyone else. Basically, we're in a crisis of masculine identity today, and instead of forging ahead towards something better for everyone JP is saying "F***, go back!".

[@senseweaver01]

Jordan: Pride is a sin. Also Jordan: I'd rather DIE than delete a tweet!

[@KurenaiNanashi]

@@killianclendenen2216I hope you realize it has nothing to do with principles and all to do with the fact he doesn’t want to admit he was wrong. He’s too prideful to do so which is why he won’t take it down.

[@user-wm7et9vx3m]

well, the wages of sin are death! 😂

[@willdenham]

Pretty much.

[@ezbody]

​@@killianclendenen2216 There is a scarier difference that you don't understand, the difference between a know-it-all delusional narcissistic abuser and a conscientious human being. Guess which one JP is.

[@outmywritemind1739]

@@killianclendenen2216 You clearly don't, because he wasnt standing for his principles. He was butthurt. Cope harder

[@MikeKrall]

Thank you for saving me. I love and appreciate your show and hard work and I am amazed by everything you’ve doing. Thank you 🙏

[@annaa8207]

That one guy really, really wanted to own a hockey team 😂

[@clairekaplan7417]

"The people who go to private schools are just smarter!" I choked on my food when he said this.

[@jaycol21]

I went to private school from preschool through undergrad. A lot of dummies attend private schools. It just means your parents probably have a little money.

[@sirius1696]

Private schools reproduce class stratification by giving rich kids the lion's share of educational resources and allowing for opportunities and networking typically not available to those in public school. Little to do with how smart the kids are, unless you consider choosing to have wealthy parents a smart decision one can consciously make

[@dantheman332]

Hahaha this is probably the dumbest thing I've heard him say.... definitely a potent disqualifying quote for such a supposed supreme intellect

[@insightnews8473]

What a bunch of idiots in this thread to even try to compete with Jordan…. By every measure available private schools outperform public schools. The SAT score comparison alone is through the roof…I think y’all might want to keep listening to Mr. Peterson you still have much to learn.

[@mickchen653]

Well, Ivy League schools are private, aren't they? For those best Chinese international students, US public universities are pretty much off the table lol.

[@Lynsey17]

The woman who created Monopoly actually created 2 games meant to go together - the Landlord's Game and Prosperity. The Landlord's Game was meant to show the inevitable results of the land-grabbing system that existed (one person accumulates wealth and everyone else goes bankrupt) while Prosperity required players to work together and improve everyone's standing. Prosperity played correctly was a game that didn't end demonstrating the sustainability of that economic system.

[@jeffreycarman2185]

Prosperity sounds lame, everyone cooperating so every player can have fun and where everyone wins or loses together, based on how well the cooperate… lame.

[@Lynsey17]

@@jeffreycarman2185 I mean, she did develop them as teaching tools...

[@GaiaCarney]

I much preferred this _VERY SHORT_ video on Jorpy over the _VERY LONG_ 12 minute video on Jorpy at ‘Majority Report’ 😁

[@JayTea345]

This needs a part 2. Jordan's brain has melted even further.

[@rrrrroope]

No man in history was more victimized by the Dunning-Kruger effect. He's so certain he's unambiguously right about every single thing that ever popped in his head despite knowing so very nearly nothing about anything

[@muscularclassrepresentativ5663]

It's hilarious because he hates both empirical science and postmodernism, meanwhile postmodern therapy and (the very empirically based) cognitive behavioral therapy are both extremely effective and brief compared to the kind of pseudoscience that he practiced with Jungian and Freudian techniques. Not to mention multicultural and feminist therapy being pretty standard for the whole field these days. Like he doesn't even know much about Psychology 😂

[@wellwell7950]

So true

[@camelopardalis84]

@@muscularclassrepresentativ5663 And he indirectly doxxed one of his former patients in his "12 Rules" book. He may not have Broken the law, but he sure shat in the spirit of the law.

[@FrogsForBreakfast]

His knowledge of climate science is definitely "I took Biology 101 and Statistics for Non-Science Majors over the summer term" level. All the issues he brings up are basic... to think nobody in decades of study has ever accounted for the fact that complex models can't account for single every factor is ridiculous and imho kinda insulting.

[@petrify4814]

Trump is like that as well just with more narcissism and less education.

[@meredit931]

The funny thing about the Monopoly example is that Monopoly was created by a socialist to demonstrate the problems of unregulated capitalism. There used to be a second round of the game where the rules introduced progressive taxation, to show the importance of wealth redistribution. It creates winners and losers on purpose, it's not just a random thing that happens to be in the game, it's literally the entire point of the game. The game was created to fight hierarchies.

[@kuskie3816]

So educational

[@PencilKing21]

And then the woman who created it was fucked over by capitalists and saw basically no money from creating one of (if not *the*) most successful board games on the planet.

[@meredit931]

@@martiendejong8857 No idea, I'm not sure any copies of the original game exist. It was called The Landlord's Game, if you want to look for the original rules.

[@erickmoya1401]

"Demonstrate" things about reality with a game. Jajajaaja

[@Christian-dd2qm]

She was a Georgist. Georgism has nothing to do with socialism. Unless you take the stance of the libertarians and believe that taxes are theft and taxation means socialism.

[@davidplantillas261]

For some reason, Peterson strikes me as the character Don Quijote. I can totally picture him fighting windmills on a horse.

[@nomansland5113]

I am happy to find a short summary of Jordan Peterson and his lobster science quackery. You did us a service sir

[@Scam_Likely.]

just imagining a lobster quaking

[@TF_Tony]

Always appreciate a "psychologist" who "doesn't care about people's feelings".

[@pavelskop685]

I hope you understand the fundamental complexity of this statement. I mean what do you mean by “care”? How would you define “feelings”? I am asking from the position of a qualified evolutionary biologist who focuses on the neuroscience of lobster mating cycles.

[@worldiknow]

@@pavelskop685 That was a good impression. Sort of preempts JP simps

[@pavelskop685]

@@worldiknow Thank you. I am also a credited impersonator as evidenced by the way I pretend to give a damn about being honest

[@gessie]

To be fair, that is a well-described norm among mental health clinicians present even in the mainstream literature. Little Pete's attitude is not surprising.

[@dungeondeezdragons4242]

Do you think that phycologists are there to comfort your feelings? No, they are there to change your life to a better course, pandering is not included(very sad, ii know you like it) there is what jordan implied there...

[@potaterjim]

Let's all sit here and appreciate the fact that _JOE ROGAN_ is sitting here slowing himself down to explain climate change to Jordan Peterson, as if he was five years old

[@Bennici]

No, you see, Joe just didn't get what Jordan was saying. What Jordan was saying is that words don't mean anything and therefore we should not even be trying to discuss any potential "problems" to find "solutions". Everything means anything and that means nothing. At least he gets being a Nihilist right, since he seems to be misinterpreting pretty much everything else he talks about.

[@Grateful.knits99]

Yeah no, really funny

[@ari_metal95]

Tfw an ape explains you science but you are still seen as the most important intellectual by right wingers.

[@hamburger512]

If anything it made me appreciate Rohan more lol

[@xc43t]

Yeah, what a day it is when Joe Rogan seems like a more accomplished philosopher and scientist out of those two...

[@MattMorey]

I love how short this video is. Watching it for the 6th time right now, which can only be because of how bite sized it is.

[@TurnipTheBee]

i think the reason us Canadians apologize so much is to apologize for jordan peterson

[@sgramstrup]

Well, just look at your political/nuzi elite, and you can start apologizing for the rest of eternity. Canadian elite is both psychopaths, and bought like all other elite in US vassal states (Nato).

[@Molly-ml1wn]

I know the runtime is all people are commenting about, but you manage to talk about this dude for three hours and never really repeat yourself or waste time. The only segments in the entire video that weren't some combination of entertaining, informative, and worthwhile were the parts where Jordan Peterson is speaking.

[@GameTimeWhy]

That is an astute assessment.

[@robertinogochev3682]

lol

[@spencereaston8292]

Sometimes I wish I had more lead in my environment so I couldn't suppress the rage I feel when I hear him talk. But then again I would probably agree with him if that were true.

[@mel8771]

Did he even ever address the coma stuff he promised to get back to?

[@rudstar8254]

its too long bruv

[@yuripetrovic7606]

Peterson: Clean your room and take responsibility for it and you will be happy Also Peterson: No don't clean up your planet, that's not the same... Look, see, imagine if you were a grasshopper and this was 1930s Germany...

[@yuripetrovic7606]

@Benjamin Eby Lol. You absolutely can clean the planet and many people in service jobs do just that. What people are saying though is that it's not enough -- and no. No individual Joe Schmoe is responsible for-- or can really do anything about the climate crisis. It needs to be a concerted effort by many people (that meaning, governments) who all currently live on said planet. Basically, our metaphysical rooms. I think what you're interpreting is that saying "clean the planet" literally means one person going from country to country, dredging rivers, reverse osmosis sewage, picking up litter, re-planting all the trees, setting up wind turbines, inspecting nuclear power plants, etc. Which is just a dumb assumption to draw. You and I are literal nobodies. We don't have the time, resources or power to do anything.

[@Xbob42]

@Benjamin Eby Toddler logic. Like how little kids will make a huge mess in seconds and then act like the end of the world when told to clean it up. You make a mess in your room, you clean it up. You make a mess on your planet, you clean it up.

[@michaelmangan7963]

Jordan Peterson is the personification of the pseudo-science that Foucault exposed as a fraud decades ago. Every time I listen to him, I enjoy thinking that Foucault was right. As Cody said, Peterson isn’t a serious person. He is a psychologist who thinks he is a scientist. But psychology simply is not science and that is why he can never answer any questions - he is actually right: psychology doesn’t know enough to make any claims. However, the mistake he makes is talking at all. He should just be quiet.

[@timeforringydingy]

​@@yuripetrovic7606 well spoken, but I think that your analysis is pretty dumb.

[@yuripetrovic7606]

@@timeforringydingy Try imagining that you're a grasshopper in 1930s Germany. That probably helps.

[@casailboat_78]

The fact that Peterson is treated like a wise Sage is another sign of the decline of society.

[@NoOne-tg9tk]

Jordan is a bullshiter and Fraud

[@Baby0din]

Someone needs to stand up to this guy for once. I was so mad when he just went "50% of jobs represented" and just say yeah well that one female in that one house is 100% of the people represented in this equation. He's so lame he can't even properly answer a question.

[@maxsalmon4980]

You know, Jordan Peterson is such a complex, nuanced topic, I assumed this video would have to be huge! I'm really impressed you managed to keep it to a such a terse, reasonable timeframe yet still do justice to such a controversial figure. Kudos!

[@Rossco1010]

The “totally reasonable length, don’t check the time code” was a great bit throughout this entire quite short and reasonable video on Jordan Peterson

[@thomasr7129]

Yup! :D

[@ragnarok7976]

Does seem a little silly to criticise speaking for great lengths of time on a 3 hour long video. Timing just always seemed more like a circumstantial feature than anything you could really use to refute or back up a point with... To me at least. Then again, people do tell me I talk too much lol

[@stevenhaas9622]

Peterson is the literal personification of Dunning-Kreuger.

[@nonentitygivenlife7318]

If someone uses terms like "Neo-Marxist" "Radical left" and "Woke" its time to stop taking them seriously.

[@arcsballss]

yup

[@MedlifeCrisis]

This KZbin short took me several days to finish and I ironically completed whilst tidying my room, but it was an absolutely exceptional bit of work

[@Absenteeee]

holy shit it's medlife crisis

[@aloofguy184]

@@pappasierra703 seems to me youre the one with alot of ego buddy

[@bradenkerr9062]

@@pappasierra703 man, you’re really contributing greatly to global warming with all these comments…. It’s a shame

[@Peacock__]

@@pappasierra703 If you know about climate change you'd know that a person watching a video has virtually zero impact on climate change

[@Peacock__]

@@pappasierra703 sorry, but you're misinformed

[@Shawn-zt3gv]

I'm really thankful for the timing of this video. I'm going through a divorce and my life is a bit in shambles right now. I've started listening to Jordan Petersen and was getting sucked in. Even bought his book and started reading it. I noticed the strange things he said but was ignoring them because what he said made me feel better about my situation. This video really helped me see who he really is. I appreciate this video and the others you do.

[@StealthBoyElite]

Been there, my friend. I hope you can get things into a more settled state quickly.

[@Shawn-zt3gv]

@@StealthBoyElite thanks man I appreciate it. I hope so too

[@G0DofRock]

Jesus, feel for ya but sadly you gotta figure your life out on your own and the only faith you need is in yourself, no higher power, no self-help books for only 3 payments of $19.99! No cults, no conspiracies especially.

[@justalostlocal]

Good luck to you. It might seems like the bad time is going to last forever, but nothing is eternal and you will get through it.

[@Anatta-Phi]

Man, I hate to hear that you're struggling, and my hope and ❤ go out to you

[@AkibanaZero]

That whole lobster thing is what made me refund his book. I could not get past that section. Fun fact: I had never in my life refunded a book until I picked up 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson.

[@christophergreen6595]

Guns Germs and Steel. Began reading it in the parking lot and returned it after 5 min. Popular attention made it seem way more intelligent. Advertising works!

[@Bekjeris21]

Had a lengthy job to go through on the laptop and I stumbled upon this video by chance. Perfect. Watched the video twice in fact, as I couldn't concentrate 100% all the time. Content was great too.