The Oracle Jet - The Best Yet?

[@Coffee_Kev]

Fancy becoming an official coffee botherer?:bit.ly/coffeebotherers

[@courtneymc5307]

Currently shopping for coffee machines and these videos have all been so helpful! My girlfriend and I have been binging over the weekend. It’s so nice to be able to see the machines in action and listen to someone that knows what they’re talking about to get a good understanding of the machines without having to buy one first!

[@brianblake2078]

Love the simplicity of presentation, information (and humour). A very thorough review. Very well done

[@Coffee_Kev]

Very kind, thanks! 😎

[@isabellapeinert675]

It’s always fun to see a coffee nerd try these machines out for us! I worked as a specialty coffee barista a couple of years ago and miss making good coffee! Been doing so much research to try and find a reasonably priced machine that I can make good coffee with!

[@Shelley-iv3my]

Love Kev’s reviews, he makes the complicated aspects of using an espresso machine easy enough for a beginner to understand!

[@HoverDonkey]

Just got a refurbished Oracle Touch and love it. Like the idea of instant heat with the Jet.

[@CoffeeGeek]

Thanks so much for the focus on the eco friendly packaging Kev! I think it's a really important thing to stress to these companies. Breville is joining Rancilio, Baratza and others in doing this.

[@Coffee_Kev]

Cheers Mark, thanks again for mentioning it, I may well have missed that! Ta, Kev.

[@jazzrecluse]

I'm looking to treat my coffee fiend fiancé for Christmas and I'm terrified of picking the wrong thing... these reviews are so useful!

[@elizawyman2372]

Such a thorough review, love the details, I'm really glad I have discovered your channel to save me hours of research and Web surfing in looking for the right coffee machine

[@Coffee_Kev]

Thanks for the very kind words 😎

[@Gabripal]

Glad I found your channel, high quality videos with honest reviews and genuine help!

[@Coffee_Kev]

Cheers 😎

[@winnielui1224]

It's a nice video that help me to understand which coffee machines are sutuable for me.

[@Falcon5ive]

What they NEED to work on is consistency, not screens or plastics. I've had the Oracle and then the Oracle Touch for about 3 years each, they've never been consistence, with the same beans in the hopper, nothing changed on any setting/button/knob it would give different volumes in every brew, in both machines. When you finally dial it in, it will give 2 or 3 shots with around 5 ml difference, but then it will start to go all over the place. I have the tamp fan bolt set to where it grinds 20 grams consistently, but afterwards, its either the tamp pressure that varies or something else, because the shots are either too less in volume or too much in volume for the 30 seconds duration.

[@fatgrouch]

Wow

[@BorisDesmond]

Yes I agree, I have noticed exactly the same thing. Makes me want to get a separate grinder (this is my suspicion to start with). It will allow me to assess if it improves consistency of shots. The weight ground is quite consistent though, each time I measure it I am writhing 0.2 gr. The flow of the shot still varies a lot.

[@Falcon5ive]

@@BorisDesmond That makes me wonder that the dual boiler would've been better option if I have to grind my own and tamp myslf.

[@BorisDesmond]

@@Falcon5ive yes. It’s definitely cheaper and , aside from the fancy selections on screen, will have a bunch of similar settings. The internals are the same than on my oracle though, so there is still very common failure points that I personally have come to find annoying. When I upgrade I’ll get a more industrial machine. It would be interesting to have a longevity rating of the Sage lineup, I dont know if anyone has ever done that.

[@silwerston]

You can change type of brewing in settings from time to volume.

[@rufusgates6088]

Love your video presentation style. Looks like a brilliant piece of kit, just starting my expresso journey so starting with a Hibrew H10A and a decent grinder! Will be watching some of your videos to help improve my skills 👍🏼

[@ChrisNaish-h9o]

Sage equipment is usually top notch, not tried their coffee machines but I'll compare this with some of the others on your vids. Nice one Kev.

[@meme4one]

In the UK, on a domestic socket, you want to keep below 2800w max in reality. That's within the capacity of a 13a plug with a bit of wiggle room. Going past that, you're into needing something more juicy similar to a domestic oven connection.

[@Coffee_Kev]

Yeah, to be honest my first thought was why don't they just give it three thermojets, but I'd not considered the energy use, they're very efficient in terms of speed, but they do use quite a bit of power while they're heating. I'm guessing this is why they didn't do that, I don't think many people would expect to have to get a sparky to come mess with their electric circuit just to plug in a new coffee machine. I mean, clearly I would do that, but not everyone is as daft as me ;-). Ta, Kev.

[@fuzziestlumpkin]

Yep, and if you take into account the US and their Aus homeland where you can usually only access 2200 Watts max at a socket, it becomes very obvious why they didn't put a second thermojet, and likely never will. Personally though, if I ever have to make coffee for 4 or more people, I'm afraid they are getting batch brew haha.

[@bbuggediffy]

2800w 13A is not common. 10A is

[@meme4one]

@@bbuggediffy 13a is extremely common in the UK.

[@GauravRajasekar]

How would you compare the milk texture while auto steaming to what the Ninja Luxe Cafe produces? I was surprised seeing Tom's Coffee corner and one other KZbinr mention that the quality of foam was bad (as against what Lance experienced). It sure sounds like the barista guidance is better on the Luxe as it stands which would make it easier for others in the house to use. I'm (US based) between this and waiting for the Es701 Ninja Luxe (the one with the tamper built in) to be released to move on from my Breville Infuser simply because of a lack of a time most mornings.

[@Coffee_Kev]

I watched Tom's vid too and I had a chat with Tom about it. I also mention this at 14:27. The auto frothing for low fat dairy and milk alternatives, from my testing, seems to not work - I don't mean it's not great, I mean it literally doesn't work, it seems faulty - on the unit I've got, at least. I'm going to see if they can diagnose it via Wifi, will be an interesting experiment. Lance Hedrick.... legend has it that any manner of milk, real or alternative, just gives up in Lance's presence & forms itself into amazing texture and then into latte art, no point trying to do otherwise as Lance could pour incredible latte art with cement. The latte art I poured at 14:37 was done on auto frothing with full fat cow's milk, so the one I've got, at least, seems to do an amazing job with full fat dairy, on auto, and it's brilliant manually also, but on auto it doesn't seem to work at the moment with low fat diary & milk alternatives. Re the Barista guidance, actually mine was way worse than it is now originally, it mainly only gave guidance at all within the first test shots, after that it seemed to only work very occasionally, but since the last update (the one that also gave us espresso Martini & the two Shakerato menu items). In my initial filming, I completely slated the barista guidance, said it didn't work and they need to fix it, but thankfully they fixed that in the meantime so we edited that out. Now that's been addressed, it's OK, it just doesn't seem to be as smart as I think it should be with the brains it has. Ta Kev

[@marieahsun8436]

I currently have a Barista Touch. Can you please tell me if the milk micro foam is much better and also taste-wise is the Jet’s microfoam creamy and tasty? Is it as nice as a La Marzocco for instance? No one ever seems to do a milk taste test on these reviews.

[@niamhdean7906]

i’ve been exploring how to improve my at home coffee making! this looks great

[@ME2KTF2]

Awesome and well presented video as ever Kev! You have the right balance of humour and informative content to make a highly engaging and entertaining video. Looking forward to watching more of your videos on the journey to learning how to make better coffee at home!

[@Clownbusiness]

Nice. Any chance of reviewing the Smeg bean to cup espresso machine?

[@Nico90Passe]

Hi Kev, I’m considering buying this machine. I was wondering if you could answer these few questions I have. 1. Is the group head E61 compatible? And if so can you use a 3rd 58mm party portafilter? 2. Can you use a puck screen with the portafilter provided with the machine? 3. Can you use 3rd party baskets (eg 18g) with the porter filter provided 4. More of a general question. Do you recommend using a filter papers in your puck prep? Thanks for the help!

[@skylark_yt]

Discovered this channel yesterday. Already my preferred channel for reviews. 😎🥸😎🤓😎🥸😎🤓 Small nitpick: All the temperatures (around 14 min) would ideally be vocalised, for the vision-impaired / sound-dependent audience.

[@Coffee_Kev]

Thanks, yes you make a good point, noted. Ta 😎

[@johnfraser6078]

I feel like a contestant on a game show, when faced with a new appliance. It's great to be able to prepare a coffee, professionally as displayed here. The Sage Oracle first class.

[@gp6885]

Great video👌 thanks for such concise info . Love all the auto features on the OJ and the touchscreen is supreme☕

[@BrevTech]

Great Video, Kev. Made me laugh seeing your wish list :) A couple of things I noticed about the Jet I don't think you mentioned was the lack of any thermal mass in the group, which means the group basket stays cold. The other gripe I have on mine currently, is it doesn't recognise when i change the grinding size back after a cold shot. This could easily be fixed tho with an update. Finally, the Barista assist disappears as soon as you modify any stock recipes. Thanks again

[@Coffee_Kev]

Cheers 👍😎. Re thermal mass, this is a different kind of machine, they're not like E61 machines for example with chunky brass groups that get heated up over time and then hold that heat, even if they did have chunkier brass groups, the heaters are only on for small periods of time, and they don't kick out any residual heat. Instead these machines are made to heat up very quickly, with the one thermojet flash heating the brew water, and the other one flash heating the group. Re the issues with Barista assist, have you had the latest firmware update? I had issues with this until the last update with Espresso Martini & the Shakerato recipes. Cheers Kev

[@VlerkRody]

Nice video + great channel! I had the touch impress and found the espresso not hot enough (even with heated cups and heated portafilter). Is this better on the Oracle jet? I'm considering to get the Jet but want to be sure the espresso temperature issue is non existing. Hoping for you advice! Thanks

[@fuzziestlumpkin]

Heat is a lot better than the touch impress in my opinion in general, but you still want to make sure the machine is properly preheated. I put a blanking disc with the little handle cut off in between the portafilter and basket to do a kind of hybrid backflush/blank shot. I'm planning to experiment with drilling holes into one when I can get hold of extra ones, seem to be out of stock currently.

[@ogmore51]

I'm really getting into coffee as my new obsession

[@Coffee_Kev]

Me too 😆

[@tniehuestn1]

Really helpful videos for shopping coffee machines and presented in a funny way 😅

[@AdrianBold352]

Thanks for the great honest reviews.

[@AlexandrosT1981]

Very good review as always! A comparison also with barista touch impress would be useful. Does the oracle jet justify the extra cost over the touch impress?

[@Coffee_Kev]

Thanks 😎will do that. In a nutshell, I'd say if someone has the budget for the Jet, and is interested in the stuff it does that the touch impress doesn't (better temp stability with the heated group meaning better shot to shot consistency in theory at least, bigger range of temp adjustments, completely auto dosing and tamping, 21/22g dose, temp on screen while manually steaming, stepless grind adjustment, Wifi updates) then I'd say yeah it's worth it. I think there will be some people who won't care about any of that, and the touch impress will be more than enough, in which case it would be hard to justify the extra spend I'd say. Ta, Kev.

[@paulwestran4277]

@@Coffee_Kevthanks Kev Was about to ask the same! Think you’ve just persuaded me to take the plunge, and spend the extra! Do you consider these Sage machines to be reliable/a good long term investment? I’ve had a Sage Nespresso Creatista Pro for a few years without any issues, so that gives me confidence! This will be my next step into the coffee world lol! Great videos by the way! ☕️👍

[@BorisDesmond]

@@paulwestran4277the oracles I have seen didn’t tend to age well unfortunately. Would be cool for @coffee_kev to tell us what he thinks of what’s under the hood.

[@miclarkie]

That really is the Rolls Royce of Espresso makers

[@SpO0kyElectric]

Bought it! Thanks for the review… and especially the discount code 👍

[@ruthwollerton5612]

Loving these videos. Can’t … EXPRESSOS … how much I would love a coffee machine

[@thecasualcoder]

Between the ninja luxe vs Breville touch impress which would you recommend when it comes to the barista guidance and espresso based milk drink?

[@rosievictoria98]

Following for the answer!

[@matthewturton1424]

I would love this setup ☕️ ❤️

[@DjMilli]

So glad I watched your review I didn’t see you can reorder the recipes, will be sorting that shortly. As for only Apple iPhones having cores. Lol and so glad Sage are not going the way of giving an app for their machines.

[@Rick9482]

I like that there are no boilers but an integrated grinder is not my preference. With better temperature control than dual boilers, at least there on the right track. Is there enough manual control that a user can make his own recipe and save it? I'm thinking of a blooming espresso type recipe that Decent Espresso offers. Does it have that kind of control?

[@Coffee_Kev]

Nah, this isn't designed for that kind of use. But, yeah, I can defo see the potential for something like this but without the integrated grinder. They could give the same control over the pump that the Sage/Breville Dual Boiler provides, but also with manual profiling and manual profiling, basically a Hybrid between the Lelit Bianca and the DB. Something like this is definitely something I'd love to see. I think the tech in the Oracle Jet shows they'd be able to do this, I'd think they'd just need to give it a needle valve like the one used in the dual boiler, basically produce it with the Slayer mod, but with access to pre-set and re-programmable profiles via the screen and also give it some form of manual paddle for people who want to do manual profiling. If they could produce something like this I think it would be epic!! Cheers, Kev.

[@Rick9482]

@@Coffee_Kev I'm in my fifth year of owning a Decent Espresso machine. I have done a lot of experimenting, went the light roast path and other exotic beans for awhile but settled on the Palo Altan blend from my roaster for the past three years. Oddly enough, with the best machine on the market, my coffee needs are just super simple these days. I could probably get by with a simpler machine other than the fact I've been using a rather complicated recipe for quite some time.

[@alexwroe9967]

Kev, in your discussion around dose size, and the limitation of the baskets included with the machine, you don't suggest picking up alternative baskets to solve this issue. Is this not something worth exploring? Cheers

[@Coffee_Kev]

Yeah you can certainly experiment with different baskets, and I have done that with the Jet, but it's not quite as simple as it seems. Alternative baskets have different shapes and depths depending on the brand, so they're not necessarily going to give the dose weights as the Sage baskets at the same volume (where the fan actually tamps). So you may actually find for example, that one brand of basket that you'd think would deliver an 18g dose, actually gives you a higher dose weight via the Oracle Jet than the stock 21/22g basket, as I found with one basket while experimenting. Different baskets will require different grind sizes too although that's not an issue if you're planning on elusively using the alternative basket. Ta Kev

[@AlexWroe-ib3qh]

@@Coffee_Kevthanks for the detailed reply. I’m total beginner, this is my first machine. I’m finding the double basket is giving close to 24g. Tom’s Coffee Corner has a video on making an adjustment to the internal mechanism to reduce this but I’m not at all comfortable with that especially when it comes to warranty!

[@trevor7016]

Keep in mind that the inside of the single basket is “frosted / matt” in finish and Sage say that it’s like that so the machine can tell the difference between single / double basket. Might wanna keep this in mind when ordering a third party basket.

[@hanedyvergara101]

All your videos have been a great help to choose which coffee machine I'm buying 🫶

[@nikkiphipps6361]

Great video 😊 just discovered your channel yesterday x

[@Coffee_Kev]

Welcome Nikki :-)

[@eriktoupal8437]

Good update from Rivelia?

[@greavsieb]

Bought it! Thanks for the review. No money left in the bank account now 😂

[@jonathanirons231]

I love that the website says "Available in these colours: Black Truffle" ;-)

[@Coffee_Kev]

haha, yeah it is a slightly unusual choice of colour name, come to think of it, they should have called it "Tuber melanosporum" - and yes I did have to google the Latin name for black truffle 🤫

[@cathrynbowen8764]

great content - love the info on the features

[@zoeypma]

Never used a coffee machine but seems so eaasy to use and quality looks great !

[@DanielleVedmore]

That looks amazing. I have a pod machine which are great for espresso but work out expensive. I prefer grinding my own beans and using my cafetiere or v60 dripper. I would love a "proper" machine so I can make more milk based drinks. Count me in!

[@amitrawal3307]

I like the idea convenience of a combined grinder/coffee machine but my concern is if there is a problem with one it would affect the other.

[@sarahharrison8198]

This looks absolutely amazing! ❤

[@Chard-Bees]

I can't believe that I am diving into this "rabbit hole" of becoming an at home barista... oh my!

[@adammaik]

Kev, Do you find that portafilter should be run without coffee first to preheat it? Without it I find the extraction a bit too fast and less creamy.

[@Coffee_Kev]

For the first shot I would when the portafilter is cold, after that the flash heater should take care of it. Ta, Kev.

[@tomnewbury]

definitely worth taste testing against gaggia, rancillio etc - personally I find them better for the money

[@janinehoughton6868]

Great tips to help me on my fancy coffee journey

[@davidmerinoabello2021]

Kev, do you think this one is worth an upgrade from the Sage Barista Touch Impress?

[@Iamjimpage]

That’s an incredible piece of kit!

[@lanceburke8042]

I've got my one arriving this week, first machine so very excited. What beans should I order through your website

[@EsotericArctos]

Technically they could do three thermojets as the don't all have to be 1600 Watt. They could dip the brew one to 1400, use a 1000 for the steam and a small 400 to 600 for the group. The group thermojet would be lower than the brew water one as it is :) For who it is aimed at it is perfect as it is though. Having the ability to queue the functions means you just set it all up then go do what you do while it does what it does, and then come back and mis the espresso and the milk 😁

[@Viams234]

Kev I’d love your advice. I want a machine to make lattes (that’s all I drink coffee wise). Upgrading from an awful £60 machine from Argos that’s 5 years old. Don’t want to spend a fortune but happy to view as an investment. Want something that’s easy to understand and use, but makes proper coffee so guessing I need an espresso machine? Help! Thanks!

[@GAMIwitheoI]

Ninja Luxe Café

[@Coffee_Kev]

The first thing I'd say there is that your machine from Argos turned out to be amazing value for money, £60 and lasted 5 years, can't knock that! But if you're wanting "true" espresso based drinks, then yeah really you need a portafilter machine. If you want the simplicity & ease of use as you've mentioned, you'll need a fully assisted machine like this - but it's worth pointing out that thanks to Ninja, you don't have to invest this amount of money to get this kind of performance. The Ninja Luxe isn't quite the Oracle Jet, but it is one heck of a fully assisted portafilter machine for the price, kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJ-mXniritqJgbM

[@Viams234]

@@Coffee_Kev Yep, it was a bargain really! Unfortunately the quality of the espresso does show though… Thanks so much for your help and your videos. I’ve just watched your ninja luxe review and I think you’re bang on, think it’s the right machine for me! Have a great weekend Kev!

[@eldarbunyip]

UK £1,700. I'm finding it incredibly hard to see 3.1 times the quality or value of newly introduced alternatives. Will very serious competition make the price more reasonable?

[@svitlanatupchii-kurinna2247]

Currently in a hunt for coffee machine and cannot still decide if im going to do bean-to-cup or separate machines ( the logical separate way is rather expensive and I won't be able to get both grinder and machine with basic stuff - PID, solenoid,opv proper heating element,preinfusion etc AND a grinder at the same time...) ..and u want a good espresso straight away,u know.. so maybe the simplier that this one from the sage bean-to-cup is a good option for now . Thanks, it's helpful for the comparison

[@jonp6798]

Cheers! I took my toast to school.

[@Coffee_Kev]

Haha, it's probably not all that uncommon, parents are busy

[@justinmbr5619]

Dear Mr Coffee Kev Is it possible to buy an 18g basket yet or is there any way to lower the dose to 18g? I'm a tight Yorkshireman and the extra 4g is a luxury and we don't do luxury in Yorkshre By the way once I've got through the free coffee I got with it I'll definitely be buying some of your roast 🙂

[@EGillies]

Only just got my first espresso machine. Wonder what the difference in quality is like

[@fuzziestlumpkin]

I am crossing my fingers for an "advanced" settings menu. I love the ease of use on the Jet, but sometimes I do want to play around a bit. I'm also hoping for a larger font option... I am sight impaired, and find it a bit perplexing and frustrating that we have this gigantic screen and tiny little numbers displaying brew time... I'm guessing that would be popular with older folk as well. Nice review, and cheers for the discount code ;)

[@amandabotterill3461]

wow this looks amazing, thanks for all the information

[@28aphil]

That looks amazing, would certainly change my coffee drinking.

[@arpurba_]

Which one would you prefer, the Oracle (Touch) or Dual Boiler?

[@garyywlo]

Good job Kev. Thanks for sharing.

[@traceyhallmark6967]

Great video very helpful for novices like myself

[@21conaldo21]

Would this make a good step up from cheap and cheerful swan Nordic machine as a pretty much beginner?

[@marcocunha231]

The real question - would you give one of these to the fam ? For the price and warranty situation, I can't fathom going down that route.

[@JB12132]

That rear water tank that has to pull out, unlike the Pro where you effortlessly lift it up, is a faff as the majority of people push their machine back against the wall and the cable at times is already taught, having to pull it out and unplug adds faff to what should be a seamless experience in this day and age. Maybe you can fill through that flap but added time and stages. Keep it smooth Sage.

[@Coffee_Kev]

I do see your point, but you can only effortlessly lift the quick release tanks from the barista Pro etc., without pulling the machine out - if you have the space above the machine. What's handy about the Jet is that if you're pushing it under wall units, you don't have to pull it out, you can just use the front fill flap. Ta, Kev.

[@danieledwards6452]

Very cool machine, more reasonably priced, looks great too!

[@brendabradley8845]

Great reviews, thank you

[@techware1840]

Have u been given a Meraki prototype to test out - looks way better than anything from Breville

[@Coffee_Kev]

Haha, unfortunately I missed their email offering to send me one to review, it hit my spam folder. Doh. I've reached out to them so let's see.

[@techware1840]

@ It looks really good - hope u get one to review

[@amytwigg6247]

Love these videos!!

[@Throwback_Livestreams]

I would love this!!! 🤞🏾

[@drone_ranger]

Thanks!

[@rothaicc]

Love the content! Keep it up

[@wilnawheeler]

Pretty sweet! I can’t imagine having one!

[@jamestravis5468]

Amazing piece of kit

[@MrRickytuk]

I wonder how many people got the Roy Walker Catch phrase thing? Classic. Also. I don't think a 3rd thermal jet would allow simultaneous brew and steam. 2 Thermal jets is all you need but you would need a 2nd pump, not a 3rd thermal jet.

[@Coffee_Kev]

Haha, not sure, but we make ourselves laugh, that's the most important thing 😆. Yeah you'd need another pump too. Re whether or not 3 thermojets would be needed to make it work like a dual boiler - one is currently for brew and steam, the other is to flash heat the group. You thinking they could have used one heater both for pre-heating and for brew, and the other one for steam? Ta Kev

[@MrRickytuk]

@@Coffee_Kev Hi Kev. I forgot you mentioned it has a thermal jet to heat the group so you're right to say it would require a 3rd, along with a 2nd pump to brew and steam simultaneously, that sounds like a lot of power consumption and complexity. Sage seem to have taken a sensible approach. I've had the original Oracle for around 5 years but I'm becoming dis-satisfied with the grinder and will start using it as a simple dual boiler machine with a good PID.

[@jamesthomson11]

Please can you do a review of the Dualit Espressivo Pro from John Lewis. It looks like a great machine and has two thermoblocks so you can brew and steam at the same time. Thanks

[@stong9551]

Looking to upgrade from a Moka pot to espresso machine! 😍

[@rad.ikrammarwa5247]

i like this channel Already my preferred channel

[@jurig5579]

What about the taste of espresso and milk-based drinks from this machine compared to a real espresso machine with a separate grinder? Is it a night-and-day difference, or is it pretty close to the quality of its bigger counterparts?

[@kevincozens1313]

great piece of kit!

[@deejayjellybean5974]

amazing vid as usual!

[@Trailjunkie62]

Something else that needs addressing is the coffee puck contacts the group head when portafilter is installed. Anyone else have this issue? Obviously no way to be able to use a puck screen if you wanted to.

[@lynnneal3705]

This looks a fantastic machine!

[@tomamos7875]

Great vid 🙌

[@press88]

Love the simplicity, but I prefer the dual boiler

[@paulrogers3606]

I'm looking for a new machine, but on the fence on spending that much, might go for the ninja. BTW chocolate fondant beans are awesome even if there in my old primadona bean to cup coffee machine .

[@phillworboys7573]

Great advice.

[@matthewtaylor2066]

Such a good looking machine!

[@caffeinefix2751]

they have rolled out this new packaging about a year ago. Almost all the machines I’ve been selling for the past year have been using this cardboard box with no Styrofoam. Express, pro, Touch, BDB etc

[@HH-cl4xl]

Great review as always, shame its beyond my budget. I have roughly £1000 (max £1200) to spend, very interested to hear what machine Kev and his coffee botherers would recommend for that price.

[@fuzziestlumpkin]

If you want something approaching the Jet for that money, it's gotta be the Touch Impress or Ninja Luxe

[@HH-cl4xl]

@@fuzziestlumpkin Thanks, theTouch Impress was the direction I was looking. Didnt fancy the Ninja as it was new and little known about its durability. 👍

[@gailoakley4010]

Another great review!

[@phjnj1]

Great review

[@m0rwsin]

Never considered such machine. Now I consider it too expensive but at least I see a use for it

[@hybricechess]

First, I was less than 3 minutes in before I knew I probably couldn’t afford this machine 😂

[@Coffee_Kev]

Haha, I can relate to that!!

[@gizmo6164]

I expect a perfectly usable car for £1700! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Coffee_Kev]

@@gizmo6164 and you'd get one, it would make terrible coffee though 😆

[@eldarbunyip]

@@Coffee_Kevall a matter of taste😁

[@hybricechess]

@@Coffee_Kev don’t know about that, nice idea - patent for cigarette lighter socket powered espresso machine incoming….

[@ScubaPhil1]

I was going to buy one, but I need 8 cores for the future AI upgrade