Gable Patio Cover! Backyard Remodel

[@AlanGonzalez-dv7jf]

This is my favorite KZbinr when it comes to construction. I am older, but i learn so much from him.

[@jeffwangerin8089]

That’s a lot of weight to be holding up with 4 2x4’s and some nails! Been framing for a lot of years and you always post and beam first, then build your structure. You may get lucky a few times but eventually you’ll end up with a major mess or some serious injury. All my major injuries came in my first 10 years of building. Safety first gentleman!

[@Coffmanconstruction]

We have caissons inspections required, so this was the only option other than delay it a week, we did add some more pieces underneath the beams to make sure it wouldn’t fall, I always like to say if you don’t trust wood and nails, hire a mason

[@jeffwangerin8089]

@@Coffmanconstruction my boss used to tell me that when I started framing in the 90s, trust your nails! But this was framing a jack roof, and standing on a single truss cord nailed into a pressure block worried it wouldn’t hold. I would never try that with the weight of beams and rafters also bearing down. Trust me, there’s no worse feeling than having your guys get injured because you were careless. Been there. And I think you mean pier pad, not caisson. A caisson holds out water to provide a dry workspace. A pier pad is material that supports vertical pressure. Just trying to help a fellow contractor out, looks like you have some serious potential to build some nice stuff. I’ve just seen a lot of guys fall out because of injury. Stay safe, bro! Good luck with everything!

[@cm5891]

@@jeffwangerin8089about to build a similar addition to this. Monolithic turn down footer/slab. I’m honestly not that good at framing roofs yet. (I’m a spoiled residential remodeler) I’m just researching like crazy this past year in preparation for bigger jobs. God bless KZbin. It has been really good to me.

[@scottandrews1757]

I couldn't believe it myself to as I was watching all that weight up top just resting on two 2×4,s below with just a few nails ,I'm from Toronto Canada and we always build bottom up lol posts go in right after your beam is set fuck their in for an accident one dayb

[@CE-Breacher_2005]

Man, I was saying the same thing to myself.

[@DubSteps123]

Love these kinds of videos man. Simplifies the process that much more.

[@HeathKahlstrom]

Excellent job. Strictly speaking the building code prohibits shingles under your overframe. (Combustibles is a concealed space) I used to do this as well.

[@cobi0125]

looking good, love ur work…👋 from los Angeles

[@paulamerson7581]

2x4s doing the Lord’s work

[@Coffmanconstruction]

I am a man of faith

[@nicksaldana2987]

Bent over laughing at this comment 😂😂😂

[@brianmoreno6921]

Dang my man you literally did the whole patio ran the rafters walked on the ridge even leaned the ladder on the side beams with NO POSTS!!!! JUST 2x4 HOLY COW

[@JuanTorres-vm9zp]

Only 2x4s holding all that weight whit the fraiming nails 😂😂😂 god

[@tall-nh3278]

I came straight to the comment section to see if anyone else noticed. And he said "We're expecting 20 inches of snow in the next couple of days."

[@tightbhole420]

its essentially 4 4x4's 🤷‍♂️ I know you probably don't build anything but lmfao

[@cameronhesling6189]

Love these videos man, such enjoyable videos to watch keep it up

[@dcchai]

Video super clear looking good .

[@commercegil]

love the content, like to see more of the kind of job that a homeowner might actually tackle. Hate the music in the background, I'd rather you keep talking about what you're doing.

[@rulowth4815]

Loved the music 😂

[@keletienne7947]

@@rulowth4815Same heh - like how it came in a few minutes after vid started

[@Tom-sd5ru]

Mullet man is a beast

[@gregsidel3557]

Looks real good doing a good job.Keep it up

[@elruso8675]

You gotta appreciate this whole job being done with a little giant, 6’ step ladder and 2’ level😂

[@Quasarnugz]

I'm a working Handyman / Carpenter.. Excellent work men. Looks good. Fast and Efficient

[@tanyason1138]

Thank you for sharing! I live in a single wide, same roof pitch, right now planning on adding this type of overhang after damage from a lean to. Currently, there was water damage with an opening cut to assess damage and air out. It it well tarped now for two months as we plan and get materials together. Also, similarly, we are going to enclose as a 4 season in the future so would also over engineer. Being in a limited budget on disability, it took time to source replacement shingles. Since we have to open and replace materials that 24’x8’ width and height of the roof to the peak, my handyman suggested tying it into the room structure, rather than just on top, needing only to apply plywood, tar paper and shingles to the top when finished. Sealed correctly, should this be ok? I chose this style because it’s a manufactured home, to avoid weight bearing, the pony wall and, exterior taking the weight. The first choice was a skillion from the peak out over the deck but he hasn’t experience with that type, Would appreciate any feedback. Thank you! 😊

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Yes that sounds like it should work! Thanks for watching!

[@neonpcmsplus]

How are the lvl beams perpendicular to the house secured to the house within the beam pockets? It looked like you just slid them into the cutouts at the eave and tacked them up. Camera wasn't close enough to show the details so I'm curious how you went about it in this instance. Also love seeing guys your (and my) age doing this quality work. Great work from your crew and your knowledge shows.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Appreciate it! The corner one ran into a stud pack that was big enough we were able to notch out the size we needed, then we ran structural screws through the beam into the king studs and into the trimmers, and the other side we had to build a pocket on the inside of the house

[@neonpcmsplus]

@@Coffmanconstruction That's nice that you were able to land on a stud pack on the one side!

[@joshl2727]

Great content 😎

[@scottnewman4550]

Whatd you do for your beam pockets? Did you open the interior side up and install jacks- it cant just be sitting on the exterior sheathing. Also, ypu put a lot of faith in this temporary braces? Once the rough framing was up- why not just install the posts then?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Exactly! We cut the inside open to put the pack in, until we did that it happened to be over a stud so we could at least keep going on the outside, we hadn’t installed the posts because we were waiting on the concrete to dry

[@richrocks1516]

@@Coffmanconstruction It looks like none of the 2x4's are placed in a load-bearing position and instead are relying on the shear strength of the nails. With 20" of snow coming, this looks to my untrained eye like a recipe for disaster. Is the shear strength of the nails greater than the load capacity of a 2x4?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Technically yes! But we did still posts that actually ran beneath the beam before the storm

[@primitiveoffroad480]

Might be the dumbest thing I've ever seen. You're going to get one of your guys killed

[@ritoluis4903]

What are the beams resting on at the house connection. It didn't look like you opened it up very much. And it looks lower than the top plate of the walls.

[@zephyr1408]

Great job ! You’re really doing good ! God Bless You

[@DaveOcto]

Nice work boys!

[@lastofthe4horsemen279]

those 2x4 braces go under the beams with a stongback nailed to it..Never nail thru your brace let the brace do the work not the nail.Nails have a fail point.A brace and stongback doesnt.One day they WILL fail like that.Just trying to help l ran framing crews 30 years .As l.look at the comments l see alot of framers see the same.In saying that though you guys did a good job on the new overhang.l like the supports nailed across the inside of the valley board.Looks good 👍.The brace thing is no joke tho.

[@christianmeadows5926]

Looks really dangerous that much weight on a few 2x4’s. A lawsuit waiting to happen

[@samzank1187]

Any tips on setting sleeper for jack rafters to be level with layout for the porch roof?

[@JimWatsonTheframingMagician]

You have nothing underneath the LVL's where they bear down on the existing roof. There needs to be a sleeper underneath them for support. It's carrying a load at the ridge.

[@noahphillips9180]

Isn't that why he dropped the 4x4 into the exterior wall through the roof sheathing? The LVL at the ridge is only holding the over frame weight, not the the whole span.

[@JimWatsonTheframingMagician]

​@@noahphillips9180he placed sleepers underneath each individual valley rafter..certainly it would stand to reason that the LVL would need one, especially considering that it probably lands between the trusses/rafters on the existing roof.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Since the rafters tying into the existing roof acts as support similar to a ceiling joist or collar tie, the ridge is no longer structural past the point load of the exterior wall, and the rafters themselves actually support the ridge. Does that make sense?

[@JimWatsonTheframingMagician]

@@Coffmanconstruction I thought about it and I have to admit that you might be right. I'm just used to the building inspectors around here always requiring support underneath all of the framing. I assumed that it was UBC. Congratulations, you're the first person to ever prove me wrong ever,about anything!!!

[@supermo26]

​@jamesallisonwatson welcome to the club of not always being right. Lol. You had a good run, but you're like the rest of us now. (I'm just joking around. It was cool for you to admit you were finally wrong.)

[@jellojiggle1]

Im no expert but I would have put some jack studs on those temporary braces rather than relying on the shear rate of those framing nails to hold all that weight during the build. I noticed you put some extra at the end but was still relying on the nails and not a full stud. How much snow did you eventually get? Also it be interesting to see how roofers tie in those shingles runs.

[@LosAngeles24st]

Does the top of the beam have to run flush with the top plate of the house?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

No, to match the existing roof line it had to sit a bit below it

[@stevenholmes7633]

Smart man taking not so smart risk😮

[@jacobcollingsworth1472]

Weird question, what kind of boots are you wearing?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

The brunt ohmans!

[@jacobcollingsworth1472]

@@Coffmanconstruction are they comfortable? I’m on concrete all day long working in a factory setting

[@Coffmanconstruction]

@@jacobcollingsworth1472 I haven’t worn anything else since I got them! Most comfortable boot I’ve owned by far

[@jacobcollingsworth1472]

@@Coffmanconstruction thanks! I currently wear the xtratuf Bristol bay Chelsea’s and they have been great. Just looking for something a little lighter.

[@Мафик-ь5й]

Hello! In the video the guys are working with Metabo cordless saws and I'm curious how many meters or feet of cutting can be done on 1 set of batteries before they run out?

[@thebrotherofthunder]

Enough.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

I’m not sure exactly how many, but I probably only switch once per day if at all

[@Мафик-ь5й]

@@Coffmanconstruction I work with a Makita drs780 with 2× 5A*h batteries and they are enough for me to make 15-20 meters of longitudinal cuts of boards, 2" thick, depending on humidity. In Russia, we mostly build from raw boards. There are also fresh ones, like frozen fish) For cross cuts I charge only at lunchtime, midday, and if I work with thin boards (25, 36 mm) and osb, the battery lasts almost the whole day. Just interested to hear about the capabilities of your saws.

[@cotydanger4071]

Yall just rest the first 2 beams on the interior top plates?

[@AubMar]

2x4's aren't enough to carry that roof, far too risky - is there a reason for using those 2x4s???

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Just a temp post because the caissons weren’t ready, you say it wasn’t enough, yet it was…? Stayed level until the posts went in

[@CharlaLester]

loved it

[@morrisroberts1805]

I would love your opinion I have switched to cutting my sub fascia on the gable with a seat cut. It simplifies my bird box framing. What do you think about doing it that way?

[@JS-jh4cy]

That piece of plywood in the corner came off to easy

[@jesushernandez-vg2mg]

When I saw what you all were talking about I laughed 2x4 be holding tho I'm still amazed

[@salvadorcastillo1539]

Very ilustrativo video thanks guys

[@matthewhicks6895]

How did you determine beam height to align soffit and fascia?

[@TreyJ34]

How do you roof this so it ties into the existing shingles??

[@jellojiggle1]

Thats another video I'll be searching for, Im sure the roofers know the secrets!

[@Tyler-ol6gm]

What was happening at the start? Where did that first beam bear? 1:45 ish. You set it on the existing double top plate? Why the inset with the 2nd ply you made early in first minute? Cheers brother

[@DanielFerreira-gw7sj]

What’s the black jacket? Brand?

[@TiếngĐànTôi]

Do you need a city permit to build this?

[@familyguy5081]

Are these LVL's or lumber beams?

[@christophermallory2222]

No hurricane ties?

[@joeyt2112]

Wolf Alice rips. Nice.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Hell yea, they were the first dance song at my wedding 😂

[@tallyrc]

What did you ledger that beam on in that wall? You're below the plate..

[@stevenholmes7633]

Smart man taking not so smart risk

[@TBird89]

Mate… it must feel weird having grass under your feet on a job site 😆😆😆😆also what’s the go with your cream coloured HiViz shirt you had on. Is that a Walmart purchase 😂

[@JEFFREYJOHNSON-m3j]

Your balancing beam act @ 11:30 in was kind of nerve racking for me. Weak temporary bracing, too. You ever been visited by OSHA?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Yes but not in a backyard

[@kirkalley3469]

Spock won't be there to save you with rocket boots. Be more careful, young slave.

[@philspd473]

Am i the last guy on the planet using mechanical connections?

[@beansandcorn123]

are there just no building codes in that town?... i hope your liability insurance is up to date. yikes.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

We build on temps to allow the inspector to inspect the caissons and rebar before pouring concrete, but if I ever have any questions about beans or corn I’ll be sure to ask you 🙌

[@ManuelHernandez-br6dy]

How much did u charge for this?

[@NicCullen-ux4ko]

How much does something like this cost

[@victorColone]

I was waiting for the collapse. Where are the supports for the ends

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Here caisson holes have to get inspected, so we built it on temporary posts while we waited for that

[@victorColone]

@@Coffmanconstruction where are you located

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

Literally just had this exact job done and at the end the gutters don’t match because his first measurement wasn’t beam height. Needless to say I’m pretty pissed at my builder.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

That’s a bummer, I’m sorry to hear that

[@Burritosarebetterthantacos]

@@Coffmanconstruction considering hes been building for 30 years….😂

[@jayframes4967]

​@@BurritosarebetterthantacosHe should have been able to adjust the depth of the birds mouth, or altered the length of the overhang to achieve matching height. Unless he was just way too far off the mark!

[@preston8859]

You should make a video on how you did the math to make the rafters line up at the existing soffit.

[@Caleb187]

What makita gun is that?

[@jimkeith2335]

There is plenty of bearing with the 2x10 I never understood why folks look for full bearing?

[@steveramirez1654]

👍👍

[@jayrose9463]

How much did owner pay?

[@craighall2819]

That is dangerously just hanging there

[@Kinglew2k23]

Building ground up is always better

[@Amado-k9k]

Ok so whats the math behind the gable peak hight off the existing roof 🤔

[@jkgjr8279]

Do some angle bracing before u walk the ridge young buck… Especially on those stiff legs…when u were walking that ridge that might’ve been the sketchiest thing I’ve seen you do…those beams were wobbling 😳

[@Express_Counter1]

Yeah first thing I noticed; no diagonal bracing, I am no safety officer and I’ve done sketchy shit but that should have been common sense especially for how experienced of a carpenter he is.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

The rafters were my angle bracing! 😂 to be fair it was not nearly as high up as the camera made it seem, maybe 10’6?

[@jkgjr8279]

@@Coffmanconstruction the rafters don’t act as angle bracing for ur stiff legs…look how wobbly those beams are when you walk the ridge. Do you man, just trying to help.

[@carlosraymundomartinezesq3396]

10 feet is more than enough to break a bone or worse. You should heed the warnings from more experienced heads. That whole thing could have racked while you were up on that beam and came down. With you on it and/or your guys under it. And from a home owners point of view I would have been been pissed if you did that on my property. You are incredibly skilled, and knowledgeable, but working safe and with proper equipment keeps you in this game for the long run.

[@drakeydotmpeg7890]

Did the hole roof with the post crazy

[@markdalton55]

You are putting some posts down, right?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Yes! They are all installed by now

[@ceclh9548]

This is a (What NOT to do) video, kids. OSHA can use this for a bad example video on training.

[@Hopalong..75]

We always removed the roofing down to the deck when building the gable. And next time build your corners first.

[@beaubromley942]

I’d like to see how it gets roofed.

[@joel_fpv]

Is that roof pitch 3/12 s ?

[@DubSteps123]

4 he said earlier in the video when calculating rafters

[@Josh-e9i]

No way bro u got by with that one .once u had the beams up square them then set post .u got lucky that didn't collapse on you .

[@josephyoung2204]

Man them 2×4s legs are like this is bullshit

[@mrsbradpittiful]

You look like Ron woodruff from Dallas buyers club

[@antonioballatore6774]

Ab’s don’t count in your 20’s, only in your thirty’s🤣

[@robertwagner3033]

The danger is you are doing a remodel and there are people who may walk under your roof and get hurt.

[@JT.526]

It's good, but you gotta remove the shingles guys. It's a bad idea to have them underneath framing and against building codes in quite a few places.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

Mike guertin has a fine home building article where he recommends building over shingles. I have seen guys who cut the shingles out flood a kitchen twice before

[@JT.526]

@@Coffmanconstruction Interesting, I'll check it out, thanks! It's against code in my county so no choice really.

[@Arbitrageur_]

Which places?

[@CharlesMccullough-g2h]

Guess I’m gonna be the bad guy.That!Is not how the rafter bird mouth is supposed to be!

[@Coffmanconstruction]

how else when the soffit is only 3-1/2" tall?

[@CharlesMccullough-g2h]

@@Coffmanconstruction ????Seriously?And your a construction company?

[@Coffmanconstruction]

I genuinely don’t understand what you’re saying, rafters are cut this way all the time

[@CharlesMccullough-g2h]

@@Coffmanconstruction this platform will only let you comment so much so here I go.If you know the pitch of the roof then you could take a measurement from the top of the ridge to the outside of the top plate.Make a mark about half of the width of the rafter.Put the roof pitch on that mark then go 90 degrees until there’s 3 1/2”from the mark to the bottom of the rafter.Cut that out and that sits on top of the wall.

[@Coffmanconstruction]

@@CharlesMccullough-g2h that’s exactly what I did, but I also cut the tail to be thinner, because they didn’t want 2x12 facia, they wanted to match the 2x4 facia on the existing house, but the seat cut is 3-1/2” wide

[@maxpowers646]

Holy pork chops

[@mickbar7008]

2x4's can withstand 1000 lbs. vertically

[@jellojiggle1]

Not 2x4's! it was the shear rate of the framing nails!! scary imo.

[@mickbar7008]

@@jellojiggle1 yes very sketchy

[@fernandogrosso8942]

You didn't show how to cut in angle the raptor from the over roof

[@lathjr1517]

Wood to wood always. Over shingles is not good.

[@RaymondMateo-155hto]

How much to do my house

[@AlanGreen-s7t]

I guess never mind safety. Way to set an example by walking on the ridge beam like a tight rope. Do you have a taller ladder or scaffolding? I believe OSHA watches these videos. Be the example!

[@Coffmanconstruction]

osha is an overextension of the government, change my mind

[@AlanGreen-s7t]

@@Coffmanconstruction They are independent and are not funded from the government. So when they do fine you, that’s what funds them. So what you are saying is safety doesn’t apply to you and your workers?

[@AlanGreen-s7t]

@@Coffmanconstruction I do love the craftsmanship, it looks awesome.

[@springgamez1919]

Video would be great other than the 2x4's if you weren't drowned out by the music.

[@TheMcChesneys]

This is a perfect example why you never go with the cheapest bid. The LVL's need proper lateral load all the way through to the footing. It is almost criminal how they attached the LVL's to the home. Or lack there of. I hope the homeowner got an inspector over there before it is to late.

[@AlanGreen-s7t]

Bad construction and safety practices. Relying on 2x4’s to hold up that structure.

[@cotydanger4071]

And yet it held it up. Shut up, retard

[@javed2547]

Them 2x4s making lvls look bad

[@Josh-e9i]

And u left it like that 😅omg

[@robertwagner3033]

Why on earth would you build with such skimpy , temporary 2x4 posts? Take the time and do a proper build with textbook ground to roof.

[@allanlee2935]

This is a WRONG process of building a patio without put in posts first!!! It's dangerous and risky for builders to finish the jobs! Misleading ... to audience!

[@craighall2819]

Why not post first???

[@explicittruth1471]

Hitler mustache is not in

[@ranaghfar5273]

Music is too loud. Video is not very instructional

[@davemats2725]

Way to much framing on the valleys, your rafters would not fly in my state ,needs to have a birds mouth cut, not impressed with your work. I been a framer for 40 plus years

[@ShaunVandenbrook-ut4ud]

Shut your unimpressed ass up Dave. U prolly can't even read a tape measure 😂

[@bugtusslealien3931]

Dreadful music! Sounds like the music you hear from the movie 28 Days. You're expecting a zombie attack?

[@robertwagner3033]

Haste makes waste

[@kennelson5096]

Kill the music next time

[@caperguy1567]

Balancing on rafters using saws.......not cool. do yourself a favor and practice safety above all before it catches up with you and your family.

[@corona7st788]

Put shirt on lol

[@Coffmanconstruction]

you dont like it? :(

[@juangamez6201]

Wow sorry to say this butI y'all don't know what y'all are doing.... Thank you .