CohhCarnage Plays Frostpunk 2 (Early Look Thanks To EvolvePR) -Part 4

[@FlayedaliveorDead]

My grandfather was a boiler lagger for Ansells during World War 2, it was an essential job so he did not have to go to war. He was spraying asbestos into large boilers, no breathing masks were provided as its dangers were not yet known about. Suffice it to say, all those year ago as a young child into my teenage years, having to listen and watch my grandfather get slower and slower and struggle to catch his breath, it was awful. It did not cause him cancer, but it slowly ripped his lungs apart in being useless to process oxygen. Asbestos is amongst the worst things we've ever used and you don't know if you've been exposed until many years later.

[@Jamstaro1]

And removing it is incredibly dangerous and difficult. I know factories that have it and have specialized teams to refix and refit the asbestos pipes because it's way too dangerous to the factory to rip it all out.

[@zachpresident]

Yea, I’m gonna need about 30 more of these videos.

[@MollymaukT]

Factions will disagree on literally everything except asbestos lining. This game is amazing

[@jampine8268]

@MollymaukT at the time the Frostpunk apocalypse started, all that was known of asbestos was it was good for fire proofing, and it keeps heat in/out, so they'd vote for it not to freeze. It's almost 100 years since the original game is set that it was widely known asbestos causes cancer, and I'm willing to bet the frozen apocalypse put most research not relating to survival on hold.

[@CaptainKillroy]

From what I understand, "hesitant" voters are just random chance like some of the decisions while scouting in the first game. Whether or not you can lose the election: I have no clue. I just know that the random voters will probably vote with whatever the majority will be. So, you're incentivised to, y'know, get close to the majority so there is less chance you will fail.

[@ZBlinkZ]

A horse walks into a bar. "Hey", the Bartender says. "Sure", the horse replies.

[@MattRebel-s9f]

I did not laugh

[@MattRebel-s9f]

You just ruined my day

[@MattRebel-s9f]

My day was going so well until I read this comment

[@MattRebel-s9f]

I hate you, that “joke” was so unfunny

[@jansasiadek2507]

Iiiiiihahahahaha

[@happylittleaccident5701]

Cohh: Asbestos Lining?!?! Surely there's something else right? *Looks at legislation support* Cohh: They all want it 😑 That shouldn't have had me laughing as hard as it did

[@terakahn]

I assume there was a law further down the line to upgrade it but who knows lol. Given the technology level they're working with in the game, abestos probably has enough benefits to make it worthwhile. I assume that when half your people are dying of starvation and frostbite, risks of cancer aren't that seriously considered.

[@Phreaksy]

The best part about Cohh playing this later is all the initial patches will make it that much better

[@vardicd1477]

The Walmart I used to work at still had asbestos floor tiles up until about 15ish years ago, and when it was discovered they had to bring in a whole decontamination - hazmat team. Big plastic bubble tents, full body protection suits with oxygen tank backpacks like you see in movies with radiation or disease outbreaks. It was a huge thing.

[@Gigabomber]

Disturbing asbestos, especially working with it day in and day out is a problem. They originally found the problems with it when the young children of the workers from the asbestos mines starting having respiratory issues. They traced it to the fact that the fathers would hold the children and the children would inhale the asbestos fibers. It's sort of like working with lead: you need to be very careful about not taking it home and limiting your exposure at work. I worked with lead and once I started using coveralls, changing out of them at work, and keeping a separate set of boots there my levels dropped dramatically and they weren't even close to being a concern.

[@itsMasric]

I'm excited to (eventually) see more!

[@TheLastMando08]

Come’s out rlly soon actually, September 20th

[@HAL-9OOO]

​@@TheLastMando08 It's out now, and he hasn't picked it back up. I wonder why that is, since this is straight up his type of game.

[@TheLastMando08]

@@HAL-9OOO Maybe he didn't enjoy it

[@justinschauwecker]

In 2024, the EPA announced a new rule to ban all ongoing uses of asbestos by 2037. The rule is the first to be implemented under 2016 amendments to the Toxic Substances Control Act. Belarus, Kazakhstan, Russia, India, Pakistan, China, Cuba, North Korea, Mexico, and Vietnam are the nations that still allow the use of asbestos. As a matter of fact, Russia is the world's leader in asbestos mining.

[@slayer6270]

First of i see what the devs did there lol. One of the council members name was Victoria Newman. A character from the hit T.V series The Boys. Well played.

[@thestudentofficial5483]

I know i heard that name somewhere!

[@Daisy-ns2xn]

Thank you.And they choose the best host, so cool explaining, and reading the tribe, and teh mods are amazing

[@Graun]

wow....just one word to describe the music and atmosphere: EPIC!

[@ecks8214]

This is my first time watching Coh videos, but sonehow i know that f5 key works 😂 your reputation proceeds you, sir

[@Fallenangel_85]

Well, freezing to death >> fast death, no children Asbestos >> slow death and children It's Frostpunk, ethical choices are a luxury nobody has. "Let's test the longterm effects" really isn't a realistic option in the world of Frostpunk

[@myronmason8170]

Voting with Twitch integration will be fun! You need to do it Cohh!

[@duncan7961]

Really hope cohh comes back to this

[@Mr.Villager1]

When he was going to build the Council hall, then the crescendo started, i felt the same ASCENDENCE as you 😂 BRO, YOU GOT EVEN BRIGHTER WHEN YOU WERE CURVING BACK 😂😂😂

[@jg4902]

Asbestos that is in good condition and left undisturbed is unlikely to present a health risk. The risks from asbestos occur when it is damaged or disturbed where asbestos fibers become airborne and can be inhaled. Managing asbestos in place and maintaining it in good repair is often the best approach. Desperate times.

[@wolfVFV]

11:40 victoria Newmann thats a the boys reference

[@terakahn]

At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Cohh had some crazy intricate artisan keycap ONLY on hid F5 key. Your people can mutiny against you. That's awesome lol. I honestly wonder if they had interns or whatever type out all those citizen descriptions in the council or if they were generated. That IT guy was a smart fellow lol. The politics system in this game is WAY more in depth than I would've expected. Damn.

[@Graun]

Would be cool if a developers do a voiceover DLC!

[@wolfVFV]

politcs based research system i love it

[@ImSamhel]

I'm really curious what the utopia builder is like if the story is made of prebuilt stuff mostly.

[@selwrynn6702]

More than just the idea tree they're adding modding tools to Frostpunk 2, something sorely lacking in the first game, I am very much looking forward to the wild scenarios that the community will create.

[@vincentchance5729]

Wondering I really wanted city like new new london on the edge would be revealed as well.

[@seanstenson95]

how do you not have more subs? love the content!

[@sebaseba6710]

Brother when is part 5 coming?

[@mikykanazawa7308]

They are in 19th century so they don't know about asbestos hazard

[@seanstenson95]

lol the harms of asbestos aren't known to the frost punk universe... yet

[@sweetoleander9048]

With the asbestos choice. Couldn't you just ignore it till it disappeared? IDK, maybe if you progress further more choices will be available as more things are available for research? Imma try to ignore it in my playthrough.

[@bacardimonk]

he had like 3 other choices on that tech tree alone, then there were the tabs at the top that allow for other choices. On top of that there are faction relations to consider, ofc for the first few choices go with whatever floats yer boat. The faction thing is even more important the further you develope, different costs, different options, new techs that only appear after a certain number of same faction choices etc. New factions can appear, some factions can splinter into hardlne factions. The whole social side is VERY in depth and WILL greatly effect a single playthrough, which in turn allows multiple playthroughs with different outcomes. Allthough the map itself both local and world will remain the same in story mode, but in Utopia mode it is more randomised

[@sweetoleander9048]

@@bacardimonk The problem I'm seeing in my playthrough is that it's getting colder soon and I don't see anyway to click other options yet as it's too early in game. Have you tested yet if people won't die if there's no insulation when it drops two levels of cold? I hesitantly clicked it as I could see no other options. I have the same complaint as Cohh. This early in a game there aren't other available options other than asbestos.

[@bacardimonk]

@@sweetoleander9048 i've figured some things out, but am way behind the cueball atm, keep giving up close to start of chapter 3 because I still don't understand enough game mechanics, this is gonna be a ball ache to complete on "Officer"

[@braidsfox]

The macro aspect has me really interested in trying the game out. I wasn’t a huge fan of the first game due to the constant micromanagement.

[@robespierrrefrenchguy6641]

To be fair. I really wonder, what are the money goes in 3a games, if this, not being one, is having a lot of more soul.

[@kradwolf5719]

The only negative I found about the game so far, is even if the city is burning and everyone is dying, some people will still be on strike and not working on making food while still complaining they are starving. Didn't expect the modern day politics to survive the apocolyps but okay xD.

[@JustSayingitslore]

Very interesting

[@robertsiems3808]

You could have waited for other factions to pop up before researching asbestos lining. The technocrats may be a little more knowledgeable about asbestos and grant you another research option.... Im sure that you will get some terrible event later on about mass-spread of cancer and shi

[@SeanSmith66]

Moar please!

[@hatedfollower]

I know I’m in the minority, but this just feels disconnected from what I loved about Frostpunk. I felt connected to my people, the communities. Now, I feel like a disconnected ruler on the outside. Maybe that’s the point? But it’s not for me. While I was playing it, all I wanted to do was play Frostpunk 1.

[@Nulibrium]

As someone who was a huge fan of Frostpunk 1, I'm not sure I like all the changes.

[@VividFlash]

It's very different and seems to be easier now, focusing on the macro and no more fiddling with building sizes

[@Nulibrium]

@@VividFlash I'm not sure about easier, it was pretty simple before but it had that constant dread feeling most of the time. These extra mechanics seem to draw your focus more on to management. I'm still interested for sure, even just for the music as Piotr Musiał doesn't disappoint but I guess I wanted just more of frostpunk 1.

[@JBMorris9]

Same!! I prefer the micromanagement the original has. This one seems simplistic.

[@drybeanz1995]

@@JBMorris9 its gonna be just like what Cohh said earlier. its a different perspective from a game mechanics sense but i feel like the dread you'll experience will still be very similar to the first game. You'd have seen in it the prologue where you race against time and could literally kill an entire baby seal colony just to stockpile enough food to survive the whiteout there. It all skepticism at this point and we're looking at the VERY early chapters of the game, chances are it'll only escalate in stakes, danger and horror as the playthrough ensues. what is usually a 1-2 hour playthrough for a normal scenario in FP1 is looking to be 10 in this game. and the replayability value is pretty much the same if not better from what i saw. I would be willing to bet money this is gonna be a GOTY contender, but alas, only time will tell

[@MrEmre3294]

this is so boring after 1. game.