COLD STEEL CHEAP SHOT "BONE SAW" Broadhead Test

[@genehalteman882]

Thanks for testing these John! I was really surprised at the durability! I knew the zero penetration test on concrete might scare you and I wouldn't have blamed you if you skipped that test, but the broadhead definitely was worth putting through all it's paces.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Gene

[@stick__shooter]

That performed much better than I expected!

[@michaelrosa5410]

In shock here in Florida,,,,

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Right?!

[@jakudahsymba5453]

Typically Cold Steel’s “space aged polymer” is a fiberglass reinforced nylon Formulation called Zytel HTN 35% Glass Reinforced Resin, consisting of 35% glass fiber by weight, has a tensile strength of around 30kpsi and a flexural modulus of 1500kpsi under room temperature conditions.

[@caseysmith544]

Some cheap bows that are fiberglass are this same material.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that.

[@FlyinZX10R]

Their baseball bats are heavy and unbreakable.

[@jeffreyfred4817]

These are interesting 🤔 we all knew the plastic was going to break but I was expecting it maybe break in the cardboard or the mdf for sure, I’m surprised it made it that far, I wonder how well they would hold up if they were freezing cold, greats review as always sir 👍

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks

[@briargoatkilla]

If I had to guess, I'd say this holds up WAY better than a stone head and river cane arrow would...and those have been killing big game for eons.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:) My buddy who owns Bishop Archery says the single most durable broadhead made is a stone one, by a company I can’t remember.

[@tythomps]

Wow, held up way better than Innerloc Carnage, most Rage, and plenty of other name brand mechanicals. I think that says more about those heads than it does this particular head...

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@Mike-cc2eu]

Thanks for the testing that you do it gives data on everything and every budget

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you!

[@jameydowless4280]

I think I mentioned this particular broadhead when you tested the plastic version. Man I was impressed. Thanks for sharing John, and I also seen Ted Nugent use these heads to take a deer on one of his TV shows.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks James

[@feralgrandad4429]

Way more durable then most of the mechanical heads you've tested John. I'd personally not shoot a deer with it. But man, I'd be tempted to have a few for Racoons etc.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@christophermix6845]

Still better than a rage lol. But yah I didn't think it would survive through the cardboard.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@joelaskey2121]

I bring to you…. Professor&Pastor John Lusk,BHD, …”Broadhead degree”. Strength ,durability & Structural Integrity…in John Lusk we trust… Merry Christmas and thank you for all your educational uploads for the bow hunting culture

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Haha. That’s awesome. Thank you.

[@TheSpeyfisher]

I'm with you John, I'm totally impressed! I believe it's a winner on certain levels? Would I use it for Elk....no! My confidence would be zero! As for small animals, turkeys, hogs no problem! I believe thou, that the door is beginning to open in the direction of polymers! The future can be exciting with great deal of anticipation! Thank you John and as always God bless....

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks brother

[@C.Fowler]

This head really surprised me… Ya know, these would be affordable to buy some to throw in a survival bag if your into that sort of thing. I was impressed with them.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Surprised me too.

[@SuperReddog17]

wonder how strong thats plastic farel handles the cold weather

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Not sure. But I have some Cold Steel knives with a plastic handle that are tough as nails

[@haroldhubbard1643]

I was impressed I join yr club to get updates all the time. I am a Survivalist so they're worth it to Me !

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thank you Harold.

[@vfonte218]

Great test as always John. Do you remember a head I think goldtip made way back that was a hybrid mechanical that had a polymer ferrule? I can't remember the name of them but they were pretty good! I just remembered they were called gladiators!!

[@windellpenton]

I remember them .. they were the reason Gold Tip has its name .. the Gold Tip Gladiator..

[@vfonte218]

@@windellpenton yep I had a couple of buddies that loved them.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I don’t recall that head

[@timbow50]

Hopefully, you can field test these on Texas hog soon. The polymer shank spooks me though. Be nice if they OFFERED a aluminum or even steel shank model for a few $ more? Surprised it made it to the block test.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah. If it had a wider cut I may try it.

[@clayanderson3999]

BONESAW IS READY!!!!!!!! “You’re going nowhere!” “Three minutes of playtime”

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for watching

[@timbow50]

I wonder too if a high density broadhead target would cause the shank to warp after a few hits. Does hot sun soften the shank? Does below freezing temps make it brittle?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Perhaps. But I’m really not sure. Lots of knives have plastic handles and do just fine.

[@kellywinton7462]

Thanks for ur tests. Where are they sold at , because i went to ther site and i didnt see them

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Amazon.

[@austinphillips9966]

Can you test the new and improved g5 deadmeat I know the older version did okay for you

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I really want to. Hopefully someone will send me some

[@chrisfitch2905]

years ago gold tip made a hybrid broadhead with a plastic body. I remember it doing fairly well but I could not get past the plastic ferule to ever try one on game.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I heard of that. I have several knives with plastic handles that can take a beating. Interesting. Thanks Chris

[@novrut]

The head you are speaking of that was made by Goldtip was called the Gladiator. They were made in 100 and 125 grain versions. Like you mentioned; plastic ferrule. I actually used them for a number of years and killed quite a few good sized whitetail bucks with them. I specifically remember complete pass throughs on a few of the bucks, with the arrows buried in the ground on the exit side. Never had any of the ferrules break on any of the kills. It is an over the top mechanical, with extremely pointed blade tips. I still have several in my broadhead box.

[@chrisfitch2905]

@@novrut yup, could not think of the name to save my life, but as soon as I heard it I knew it, LOL

[@Menuki]

The cold steel “space aged polymer” isn’t simple plastic. It usually refers to glass reinforced nylon.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that.

[@mickyfitzko6024]

At the beginning when you were showing it ill adcmit that i didnt think it would do well through the mdf much less the steel. Nice

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@georgewashington1621]

I'm super impressed! I've had terrible experience with the plastic ones, i bought 2 of those to test how my arrow would fly with a fixed head, shot one at a foam target and it flew way to the side (even though i paper tuned my setup with a field point of same weight) and when i pulled the arrow out of tue foam target the head broke off just like you said yours did when you overtwisted it. Then i spun the other one to see why it flew so much to the side and it spun TERRIBLY. Mind you, i'm not in the US and bought gemfroma localshop, so maybe they were counterfeit? But a guy i know in the US bought themand shot one through the side of a hanging gutted deer carcass and it exploded on contact with a rib on the front side, absolutely terrible result. But if every head of this new design in every pack they sell would spin and hold up like in your video and be as sharp, i'd say they would be worth the money and i'd give them a try. Btw where in your sharpness test scale would a head start shaving hair, at what weight?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for the comment. In the sharpness test, I give some examples of what the various levels of sharpness mean, in the video description.

[@dannydyer9961]

John if you can find one, can you do a review on the new Bowtech SX80. I literally shot the Solution SS and the X80 in the shop about a dozen times wishing they would make a longer Solution SS in 80lb or an X80 with SS cams. I haven't even shot one yet, and I'm already saving my .money to buy one. Thanks for all the testing. I could never afford to try all these things lol. Even though this is nothing like hitting an animal it, tells you a lot about the quality of the heads

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Nice. Thank you

[@clarkansas6590]

Good job

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks

[@krazyrican2009]

I’m getting a few packs after watching this video!! Thank you!!

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Nice

[@brandonhimes5481]

Hey John, wondering what type of arrow spinner you are using?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

I'm using one I got on Amazon...but I can't remember the name now. It's made my the same company as Maxone. Love it.

[@haroldhubbard1643]

I think for what they r worth. I would buy the hell out of them!! I'm impressed..thank you

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Good to hear

[@bobray1010]

Does this head need to be sharpened ? Would it lose its edge ?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

It might be difficult to sharpen with those tiny serrations. So cheap, easier to buy more.

[@justinjones2882]

Some guy picked up a plastic handled steak knife at Dennys after a night out and said, "You know what? I could kill an elk with this." And he was right, lol. Fun test to watch thanks.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Haha

[@johnhire1774]

Hi John, I really enjoy your reviews. I'm a bit confused on a statement you made in this video and hope you can clarify. Due to the 22* bevel you noted it wouldn't rotate much. The Alien V2, which is how I found your channel, has a 23.22* bevel and at the time of the test you said it rotated more than any other broadhead you had tested. Does 1.22* make that much difference? Or is head length a piece of the rotation equation? Thanks in advance and please keep the reviews coming. Regards, John

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks John. There are a few things that affect the rotation: Bevel angle, Blade thickness, and Width of the cut. As for bevel angle, a 45 degree angle will cause the greatest rotation. But the edge wouldn’t be very “sharp” with that angle, so heads that want max rotation are usually 40 degrees. I thought the V2 was 40, but perhaps I am wrong in that. Blade thickness matters as well-the thicker the blade, the greater the rotation, all other things equal. And then with the Width of the cut, again, the wider it is, the more it will rotate-especially if it is short as well. So the V2, regardless of the bevel angle, is quite thick and has a wide and short cut. Thus it rotates very well. If it were 40 degrees at the bevel, it would rotate even more. The design/geometry of the tip of a head also affects rotation. I’ve found heads without a tanto tip tend to rotate better-just two edges converging at the point, like the V2. And as mentioned earlier, the more a head flares out in its width, the greater the rotation. But it should be noted, all that rotation can also adversely affect penetration.

[@johnhire1774]

@@LuskArcheryAdventures Thank you, appreciate you taking the time to explain. Very informative.

[@justinpeters7545]

Would definitely be a decent super cheap head for varmit I’d have to see it kill a deer to say it’s okay for big game

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@mckaycarling983]

What is your favorite Broadhead all around? WT or Elk

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Man, that's too hard to say. For a mech, it would probably be the Sevr 1.5, and for a fixed, it would be the Exodus. But there are SO MANY great ones.

[@pensnut08]

That was surprising!! Do you think the lack of rotation was due to the narrow cutting diameter?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yes. That’s a factor. Bevel angle, blade thickness and width of the cut are the 3 greatest factors affecting rotation. Length is also a factor; the shorter it is, the more it will rotate, all things equal

[@yvonnewhittaker8751]

Is the broadhead left bevel?

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Ya know, I didn’t even think about it at the time, but it looks like it is.

[@frankbrowning328]

Impressive performance for such an inexpensive broadhead. No, it won't be my deer hunting broadhead, but if I were pressed for cash to the point where it was the difference between going and not going hunting I'd use it. Cold Steel makes some good knives and for just a little more $ makes some great knives. Their knife warranties are really 2nd to none.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks Frank

[@hikingwithaviking8529]

Definitely went farther than I expected as well...

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Me too

[@yourmomma2995]

i would much rather pay an extra dollar each if they used an aluminum ferrule. i saw a video on youtube the other day where 2 guys used the all plastic model, it looked like fine shot placement but of Corse they didn't find the doe they shot.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Thanks for sharing that

[@jeffcopenhaver2217]

If the zombies ever come, I’ll take a truckload of them! Lol

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

There ya go!

[@Wyldmatt]

I think these are my new coyote heads for the quiver

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@donutdan1508]

Wow that's pretty impressive for a head with a plastic ferrule.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Right?!

[@michaelrosa5410]

Man was I surprised !! Held up further than I certainly thought. I mean for $10 for 3 heads ? I found my new raccoon head !! lol Rotation was poor, penetration poor,sharpness poor,width poor, Shot dead on with field tips, important. Blade thickness,excellent. Couple improvements to me, might be to widen up the cut, but that might put too much stress on the "polymer" ferrule ? Tanto tip it,rid the saw tooth for simple edge you can resharpen and or polish up. Single bevel is always great. I'm not sure if an aluminum ferrule is going to be that much stronger, but it should be atleast a BIT stronger. Being it held up the steel plate test, speaks volumes to the quality pf the "PLASTIC" ferrule. I'm going to buy a pack for raccoon recon around the feeders. More fun to arrow them then pellet gun them. Overall a great test in that nobody would have even considered this head without this exposure to it's viability. I wouldn't doubt this heads capability on wild boar 100 pounds and under,easily. Being they shot so well, thats what you need with a smaller boar hog being the kill zone is so small on them compared to the larger pigs. John thanks again,great job,eye opener for sure.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

What a great comment. Thanks Mike.

[@donaldbowling8620]

Gotta say, not bad. 😮👍🏻🦌

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Right?

[@whodoyouthinkiam210]

Especially on that angled shoot! Not bad, still coon or yote head at most.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@jolookstothestars6358]

CRAZY! I might get a few for some varmints.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@littlewoody5539]

That was amazing for plastic 👍

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yes it was!

[@awesomebillfromdawsonville8715]

Boy these have improved over their previous all polycarbonate version 👍

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yes sir

[@hoosierdaddy3705]

My first impression was I liked the look of it. Hearing the plastic part of it was turning my opinion to crap. I thought about it breaking off and the treaded part getting stuck in the arrow and how much that would suck getting that out. When it made it into the gel ok, I was surprised. It didn't break in the cardboard, now, I was really surprised. The rest of it blew me away. I'd have no problem taking these out hunting. I would just sharpen them first. They are a little on the dull side. Very impressed, especially at that price. Way better than the cheap mechanicals with the crappy aluminum. Plastic is not so bad after all.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yes!

[@155michaelx]

not bad

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@mossyhornhunter7022]

Great deal , not everyone is rich and these are a good option when you gotta penny pinch. 👍

[@yourmomma2995]

the chinadermics are all steel and would be a much better choice for the penny pinchers, they are $1 each.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep

[@greekmaster1001]

Maaaann if only that brick was made of jel lol

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@wcwcgarner2717]

I would never shoot them. But they did not do to bad.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yeah, better than many

[@tray22]

Did better than rage mechanicals.

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Yep!

[@oliver-erwinhakelberg727]

The Best Steel is a cutting Bleede from a Steelsaw ""HSS _STEEL !"" This we produce in home work for us Bolts !

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

Nice.

[@oliver-erwinhakelberg727]

He have a Ceapshot in hims slip 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂.....Best Greatings from Germany 😀😀

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)

[@joedavino9225]

This would be a good survival tool buy a few packs and keep them in a big out nkit or something like.thar. deer hunting every day nah not for me

[@LuskArcheryAdventures]

:)