Cold War Zombies 3 Years Later

[@TimHansenYT]

fav cold war map?

[@jekashwood2586]

Yes

[@trippzy7440]

Mauer

[@stefanozayas6874]

Deez nuts der toten

[@hydrolll1432]

Forsaken. Just like the colors

[@Primis_rulez115]

Mauer der Toten is my favorite!!!

[@UnrealStingray]

Cold War made Tombstone an actual viable perk. Now it’s worth the money. And they kept it as a beginner friendly perk

[@paulovinasrocha6166]

it still is the least usefull one

[@mychealmcknight7963]

​@@paulovinasrocha6166trust me that perk is very useful on the higher rounds if you have a really bad run

[@mecxu761]

​@@paulovinasrocha6166 Not in forsaken with the perkaholic ee

[@muninntog142]

I only wish it was who’s who instead of tombstone because of the jingle

[@AuazzyMusic]

honestly they should've made who's who return but still have tombstone. but yet that would make a easy game probably easier

[@UnchainedSora]

I used to love Firebase Z just because as someone who wasn't super into zombies before Cold War, it was a map where I could easily do the EE solo, even in a group of strangers who were doing their own thing. I would just go into public lobbies and do the easter egg without anyone even noticing until the giant laser blasted down and there was a cutscene of us rescuing Sam. Hearing people get confused and excited was honestly such a fun experience.

[@ZetsuboNoShima]

I dii the same thing lmao

[@frostsoul4199]

honestly, i had the opposite issue with it where i couldn't get the EE done because of the mimic step being so tedious and frustrating at times.

[@phettsta]

@@frostsoul4199 Same here. The worst step in CW EE's in my opinion.

[@Albatross2018]

Brother is still earning refined crystals in the year of our lord 2024

[@reelgesh51]

I still am I think Jug had a glitch where if you fully upgraded it you'd go down quicker instead of being given an extra hot So I've never upgraded it even when I play from time to time 😂

[@genericimage2452]

Evil Cold War be like: "Hot Peace"

[@Kaydenfs]

AHHH

[@TeeKeeps]

Hot peace or hot piece?

[@AdamasutojrAJR]

​@@TeeKeepspeace 💀

[@vespa7062]

hahaha ☺️🫱🏾 get ready! 50 oiled up men are coming to touch you!

[@CrapOdemon]

‘Black ops Cold War’ fans when ‘White friends Hot Peace’ fans walk in:

[@collinmaisonneuve4837]

The only issues that I've ever had with cold war zombies, was that you needed to be online to play half the game. That, and the menus that opened when using PaP or the Wonderfizz. The menus weren't too bad with controller, seeing as you could switch from option to option with the click of a button but it was a whole lot worse when playing with mouse and keyboard which was a nice addition for console players

[@the_seer_0421]

Yeah, I play on console and most of the Easter eggs and side stuff are just not available because I don't pay for the only subscription. It's really annoying and takes away from a zombies mode I otherwise enjoy.

[@Stunion_D_Onion]

if bo6 is like cold war with improvements and more personality I’ll be very satisfied

[@vanilit6532]

unfortunately it has less personality and more mp/warzone in it

[@corvoattano5203]

The biggest thing that Cold War lacked was content tbh. Activision gave treyarch actual time to develop the game this time tho

[@rudydaberry122]

@@Stunion_D_Onion I don’t think it’ll be better based off gameplay

[@WhatisReal11]

Cold War is the worst thing that has ever happened to zombies. Its ravaged the foundations and bacic mechanics of gameplay.

[@rudydaberry122]

@@WhatisReal11 yeah it ruined what zombies was in favor of ADHD brain warzone players

[@stal2281]

CW Zombies was and still is hella fun. Great time.

[@FrenchesOP]

IM A FIREBASE Z LOVER! THERE IS LITERALLY TENS OF US!

[@EtheriousOptimusDragneel]

I’m one of them! Only map I’ve ever made it to round 100 on 🥹

[@McDanklestank]

Twenties 😤

[@kuznetsov5787]

The best map imo

[@reelgesh51]

The DLC rng made me hate it but the actual boss fight was good

[@sirisaac6225]

@@kuznetsov5787OF ALL TIME!!!! 🤯😱Move over Origins, SOE, and MOTD. Fire base Z is here 😎 (This is a joke please don’t kidnap me)

[@idiodic7prouductons]

I love fire base didn’t realize it had such a negative reputation.

[@zaynbye4275]

nice to see someone not just hate on cold war for the sake of it. i always thought it was the most fun zombies game ive played, not necessarily the best, but the most fun.

[@samuelperez6726]

Yikes …..

[@himbofication]

most fun zombies game is insane

[@bottledit5379]

@@himboficationnah I can see it. Great game for casual play and to just turn your brain off and hop on

[@SemiSemiX350]

@@samuelperez6726all opinion based 🤷🏽‍♂️ i agree with the guy, it was fun asf but in terms of cod zombies not the best.

[@davo9539]

cold war is for sure a mechanical masterpiece that i dont think any game will beat. They idea of grinding to upgrade all your classes and getting camos makes the game fun. Its a completionists dream.

[@YouTubeAuditor1]

Personally I didn't like having to pause my game and applying my blueprint every single time to get my attachments that I used. Weapon kits from bo3 were simpler.

[@Izycruz-ml4mx]

@@KZbinAuditor1but what if you need multiple build for salvage drop percentage, or armor damage barrels, or long range for outbreak, etc

[@AnthonyDoesYouTube]

In other words, it is a boring tedious grind 😊

[@zicksee0]

@@KZbinAuditor1luckily for you my friend, that will no longer be the case in bo6

[@snewp_e2139]

@@AnthonyDoesKZbinwhat a sad life you must live

[@joshuawalker5793]

This is the zombies that got my best friend to play zombies and i will never forget that. We had hours of fun playing this iteration of zombies so much that my friend usually would be the one to ring me on discord and play it lol.

[@JustinWN]

Mauer der toten has became my favorite zombies map weirdly

[@danielculp1046]

Same reminds me of my favorite map Gorod!

[@countpluhula]

Thank you Timmothy Hansen.

[@samuelmcclamrock162]

DM and MDT are genuinely some of my favorite zombies maps of all time, super solid

[@MUSTANG_P51]

Personally, I love Cold War Zombies. I love how relaxing it got, and allowed me to unwind and have fun. I don’t really have much to say about the co-op portion of Zombies, because it would super glitchy for me because Cold War had a lot of issues (Activision are greedy mother phuckers). Die Machine was a great starter map. Firebase Z provided a healthy challenge, Mauer Der Toten felt familiar with the reintroduction of the Panzer Soldat, and Forsaken is kinda like Moon, but slightly easier. I loved the wonder weapons, with the D.I.E. Shockwave being my all time personal favorite wonder weapon in the game. Outbreak was also fun, but a bit boring and repetitive (but better DMZ Zombies). I never played Dead Ops, so comment there. And Onslaught was fun, but had it’s frustrating moments for me. All in all, Cold War Zombies was extremely fun, and I can’t wait to see what BO6 Zombies does.

[@IsaacVlahos]

only found out about you this year and already one of my fav tubers, your vids always give me the laugh and entertainment i need, and got my love for cod back, keep it up

[@chrisgonz19]

Firebase is my favorite map now, as ive gotten older i stopped caring about high rounds and easter eggs, i just love playing a chill game now

[@BlameNate]

This Zombies was so slept on. All my friends are diehard BO3 lovers, which is understandable, but they hate on this game waaaaaay too much. I thought this was a good zombies game at it's worst.

[@scullyplays3992]

One of my favourite games, so underrated

[@YourGuySmallFry]

I thought Cold War zombies was pretty good for causal zombies fans like myself. Simple and fun

[@DeadSpacedOut]

Not talking about Outbreak and their Easter Eggs is kinda criminal. One of the Outbreak Easter Eggs was cool asf!

[@duckysrevenge]

been watching bro for 5 years

[@ItssKiriko]

Cold War as a whole is just.. amazing

[@danduty4564]

I like the super Easter egg for purple rarity guns on game start Also just to let people know you don't actually need to complete every Easter egg if you complete like 3 or 4 of them you can go to the alter for blue rarity weapons on game start

[@mychealmcknight7963]

Honestly is that purple weapon you spawn with is way more useful then spawning in a match in Black ops 3 with a RK5 which is damn near worthless on the higher rounds because the only time are you going to kill something with that gun is if you have a aat on that weapon at least on Cold war every weapon is usable on the higher rounds minus the snipers

[@reelgesh51]

​@@mychealmcknight7963throwing knife only with some fandoms was some of the most fun I've had in zombies Getting clutch revives for the time and running circle of healing to keep em alive was super fun

[@SixArmedPriest]

​@@reelgesh51 Healing Aurora* and I agree, so fun

[@thevisionary2566]

You should do a video of ARs years later, for example bo1 ARs 14 years later

[@kazreshif]

i still play cold war zombies atm, one of the best zombies tbh

[@mattgames7543]

It's so nice to see some positive reflection on CW zombies. I think the gameplay loop is so fun and even though I felt forsaken was a bit of a let down, all the maps felt good to me, with Firebase being my favourite! I think the high rounds are deceivingly easy though. I don't think getting a 'high round' is any 'easier' than BO3, it's just less time-consuming. Getting to round 50 on BO3 probably takes a similar time to 100 on CW. I think the way difficulty scales on CW is so much more fun and replayable though. On most BO3 maps I can be pretty set up before round 15, but with CW its at least round 30 by time I have a WW and everything is fully papped. Not to mention the fact that the way the zombies spawn, run and behave in CW is so much more chaotic than BO3, so while you can tank more hits and there is no windmilling, I find myself needing to be more alert to stay alive. In BO3 it was kinda just do figure of 8's while training and hope you don't get windmilled. I dunno, I will glaze CW zombies til the day I die

[@Z-a-c-k-69]

This video made me nostalgic, and i don't know why

[@willmoore6166]

I’ve been playing Cold War a lot lately, really fun zombies to get in and grind. And I love the addition of the rampage thing

[@maxhermangameclips8228]

i’ve been waiting for this one 😈

[@CuddlyBuns]

Firebase z was the tits lol. I never really cared to do Easter eggs but firebase z was the first one that I did and the boss fight at the end was fun as hell. It'll always hold a little special place in my heart.

[@rodp.1]

Bro did NOT give this game a chance during it's lifecycle😭

[@nickyeet4683]

he trashed the game every day bro 🙏

[@Richerodt]

Cold War is the best Zombies game, mechanically. I dunno if it's just the circle I run in, but I don't remember hearing any major criticism about how it plays. It really feels like they looked at what people were doing with the mod tools for BO3 customs and took what people loved the most.

[@mychealmcknight7963]

It's really not that bad honestly and that's coming from me who's been playing zombies since 2008 but sadly most of the Black ops 3 appears look at this game and think it's way worse honestly Cold war did pretty well just ignore all the negative feedback that you hear from every zombie KZbinr thinking they know everything about game design cuz honestly if you want a fair and balance review of every zombie that has ever came out look up John Rizzo he will give you a much deeper dive about how good most of these zombies are in their own way instead of just randomly thinking of nick pics of why most of thems are so bad

[@Richerodt]

@mychealmcknight7963 Nah, I feel that. I've been around since the original Shi No Numa dropped. I scope them out and if it's not for me, it's not for me. I think the only one I flatout didn't try at all was AW. 🤷‍♂️

[@eg-a2357]

LOL nice joke. It's a braindead easy game for dumbass WZ and MP children. Not a single braincell needed for high rounds or easter eggs, just sit in a corner to pass the rounds and spend 10 minutes to do the easter egg. That's not even mentioning the dogshit loadout system, operators, ugly hud, scorestreaks, armor system, zombie health cap, boring maps etc. Unless you are complete garbage at old-school zombies, CW just simply sucks.

[@ALph4ZeR00]

People complained about Armour and Point system. I honestly loved CW's mechanics but i honestly don't like how they brought back the CW point system for BO6 and added MWZ Armour system to it.

[@abzinhoo]

@@ALph4ZeR00the point system marks it down quite a bit for me

[@joshelliott9453]

Game is extremely underrated. Still a great game

[@zdot_lazy]

Tim you’re the goat also an amazing person for give lex the benefit of a doubt

[@Richtofens_revenge]

Cold war was so underrated who agrees?

[@mecxu761]

Me 999% agree

[@Rezeile787]

Na

[@AJellieDonut]

Firebase is my friend groups favorite map. Its not because its the best or most interesting map, but because its the perfect map to shut your brain off and just talk for a few hours. Also as a side note tempest was not a new boss for Mauer. It was added in outbreak which came out before Mauer

[@helpkirbyhasagun_2047]

My favorite Cold War map was Mauer Der Toten but I played Forsaken the most due to it having my most favorite wonder weapon of all time, that Axe Smg hybrid was so badass Cold War had my most favorite Perk system, AAT system, Specialist system, Armor system, and I liked how causal friendly it was

[@susch7466]

The i only real Zombies experience i had was playing Black Ops 1 as a child, so i never got far. I really loved cold war zombies and the armour system. Outbreak also got me really invested in it. The problem with outbreak is that i usually got bored around round 30.

[@masontbf4695]

It’s my favourite zombies and I’ve been playing since bo1, I don’t know why but I just enjoy how easy or difficult you can make it the kill streaks the upgrades it’s all so optional that its perfect to me

[@goonafresh184]

in the past couple of weeks ive done all the easter eggs solo and with a group of friends and i appreciate cold war so much more than i did at release.

[@ItsWildT]

The exact video I was expecting from you when I’m thinking of coming back to zombies

[@josephspinelli1411]

I still argue till this day that Cold War is the second best zombies experience behind b03 the gameplay is smooth and the Easter eggs are tricky without a guide and interesting to the story which is made very well making people like or dislike characters in it. Will I say it’s perfect game no but I will say Cold War feels the most complete zombies has felt in a while

[@lenzo78]

loved cold war.

[@maycobjonn877]

forsaken isnt underwhelming when u do the ee, hearing we'll meet again and seeing the return of richtofen had me fangirling so freaking hard

[@LordRyan123]

Cold War was the only other CoD Zombies i put a-lot of hours into. I had a-lot of fun with CW granted some of the maps could have been better and the story was mid at best. But I loved the gameplay changes they made and it was a-lot of fun to play especially with friends.

[@BrainDead_VR]

You know it’s a good day when Tim posts

[@Bainss04]

Cold war is the first zombies that doesn’t feel like zombies

[@eliteastrea]

true

[@haarryj6862]

Because it’s the first zombies that didn’t use the old treyarch engine

[@madog61]

Cod war is hands-down, one of the best cods out there

[@atomicghoul4747]

BOCW was good but I think a lot of ppl forget how broken the game was for the first 3 seasons

[@madog61]

@@atomicghoul4747 at least it was playable "cough warzone cough"

[@SixArmedPriest]

​@@atomicghoul4747 Go back and watch BO3 and BO4 EE videos. They would have to complete that crap like 100 times. It's not remembered because every COD has been broken on launch lol

[@abdulraheemsaleem3517]

Zombies only was the best

[@ItsBres]

the hate on firebase will NOT be tolerated

[@Codename_aether]

I enjoy fire base z more than most people, but it still sucks. it’s like shino numa, veruckt, shang ri la,radioactive thing, and forsaken. I like them all, think they are fun but I recognize their faults and why others dislike or outright hate the maps.

[@SirNathanel]

I definitely get the hate but it’s one of my favorite maps secretly

[@Codename_aether]

@@SirNathanel it’s got charm Fs, the zombies with the field worker hat has got to be one of my favorite zombie models too. 😂

[@ShadowFawn2782]

As a representative of the firebase z comunity i would like to say that we humbly agree and do believe that fire base deserves more love and cherrishment

[@snowyskunkyfox]

fuck the mimic ee step

[@bbychxrlie7228]

coldwar zombies is the one and only cod I always come back to daily

[@logantaylor578]

Tim for forsaken it’s also in the campaign as well. And for the campaign they say it’s for Russia to use as a practice facility to invade the us or some shit like that. Very cool concept because it allows them to throw in whatever they want into the map

[@harrytruman3146]

Megaton is one of the best boss zombies ever

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

CW zombies was so much fun!

[@WigneyR]

20:29 Burger Town has been around for much longer than AW 😅

[@cooperryan6382]

fr

[@RizeF1X]

Specifically bubby though

[@doomjoltfromflordia4069]

Wait when was it shown

[@the_seer_0421]

Wasn't it originally from the mw2 campaign? Or am I remembering it wrong?

[@RizeF1X]

@@the_seer_0421 Burger Town as a thing is from MW2, but Bubby as a mascot, the big guy that stands beside it is from AW Zombies

[@yonkomarsa]

Something i never saw someone talk about is that they made Max Ammo replenish your current magazine too so you don't have to reload every time there's a max ammo (probably because no one really cares about ammo in CW because you can find it anywhere)

[@viniciuspaiva8932]

the outstanding feature of firebase z is fighting orda every 10 rounds, love that dude

[@metaljunkie8393]

I downloaded Cold War for the first time last year and missed out on the hype, especially Warzone! I regret not getting this game earlier and I managed to complete all the Easter Eggs by myself or have the occasional homie play Mulitplayer with me 🖤 Outbreak is my favorite still, especially the Legion fight. Even if I’m not doing one of the 2 EEs in Outbreak, it’s nice to just shoot zombies that don’t take too much to kill and just listen to music! 🖤

[@nextgennel5123]

I miss the hell out out of Rad Austin man I would love to see him come back to do some zombies content for BO6. Holy shit he just started uploading videos again about a month ago!

[@prestige6475]

Idc what people say this is where zombies peaked for me. I was there since WAW and loved it. Something I always wanted was open world zombies and the ability to actually bring a load out. Never made sense to bring that pitiful 1911 when you know your going to a battle lol. Upgrading perks and weapons it is pure undead slaying bliss for me

[@nuk4lear]

Firebase Z. One thing my friends hate about me is this is my favourite of the four maps. Die Maschine second

[@anthonyjanes9858]

Just started last week for dark ops challenges. But I absolutely love the revamp nacht der toten. Just made social distancing calling card., stayed on stairs in firebase z with toxic growth and using death machine with small taps.

[@holcomx]

I think you have to take into account the Easter egg of the final map because it is an absolute moment

[@addisonmendez3160]

When Black Ops 6 comes out I need “Black ops 6 zombies 1 day later”

[@helpkirbyhasagun_2047]

The DIE upgrades from my personal experience are ranked like this (best to worst) For Camping: Electric Gas Default Fire Ice For Training: Electric Default Ice Fire Gas

[@longswanson9458]

You could've crouched and had enough for stamin-up lmao

[@dubsxd2502]

Tim is back with frequent upload and we are all here for it!

[@sumraya]

Cold War did so much to help zombies be much more replayable. I can't wait for them to refine this system with Black Ops 6❤

[@347warrior]

Glad to see Tim still uploading 💪

[@1mizu.luna1]

skibidi hansen with another sigma experience

[@arbeanian]

Genuinely fun imo

[@marshalowens-fp2kg]

Timmothy my favorite step dad!

[@MusicEdits121]

It’s always a great day when Tim uploads and I thank you for al your videos and not giving up on zombies 🧟 ❤

[@merrickbaskie7941]

I loved tf out of Outbreak ngl. You should give that a run with some buddies for a video

[@jaredmunro597]

its so weird that they made the D.I.E wonder weapon PaP'able when forsaken came out, not before

[@Shirohige4yonko]

Mauer der toten top 1 CW zombies map.

[@codymuller5744]

I actually really enjoyed cold war zombies, other than the "open world" bs. I thought being able to upgrade perks and weapon classes was super cool

[@laserdisc7768]

You should unlock dark matter and do a road to dark matter in Cold War zombies

[@alexbasha0508]

Lmao hell no.

[@laserdisc7768]

@@alexbasha0508 just an idea before he plays BO6 zombies

[@YouTubeAuditor1]

Jmoney26 is fun to watch hes done dark aether 3 times plenty of content

[@DeadSpacedOut]

I find it funny that the Maps with the best story (at least from a longtime Zombies fan perspective) are the ones considered the weakest. Of the 4 Maps, Die Maschine and Mauer Der Toten are generally considered the best Maps in terms of Layout, Vibe, etc. but their story has to do with Zykov/The Forsaken which most longtime fans won't care about as much, whereas the Maps with what people consider to have weaker Layouts and Vibes like Firebase Z and Forsaken have more to do with the overarching Aether Story and Samantha Maxis, cuz we're rescuing her in Firebase Z and she's helping us defeat The Forsaken in Forsaken ofc.

[@spiderpig420]

the chrysalax is so stupidly op, every game once I got it I would sit in a corner and only use the melee feature, just swinging that thang around until I got bored

[@user-og6ei8pr7b]

Goat war zombies 3 years later

[@_a.a_5557]

Ass war

[@deadgnomodwe8629]

@@_a.a_5557decent war

[@TheSantach]

Still a trash game.

[@Average_Internet_User101]

@@_a.a_5557 An attempt to ratio was made!💀

[@Immmboreddd]

@@TheSantachI didn't realise Vanguard was mentioned

[@zacmedeiros3640]

You should do a video on outbreak 3 years later too! As much as I prefer round based zombies, outbreak is the only they they’ve ever made outside of the normal zombie experience I actually enjoyed!

[@PumpActionz]

I absolutely loved this zombies. Idk why people hate on it

[@aidancole9056]

Frr

[@liltoad9050]

Underrated zombies

[@JGr2000]

It’s fun but way too easy and can get boring quickly because of that

[@D3AL1O]

Because of gameplay changes like the point system.

[@mychealmcknight7963]

I just feel like because it's not Black ops 3 that's why everybody is in their feelings about each zombie mode that comes out but instead of criticizing it just look at it like it own zombie mode instead of comparing each of them because every time they do that they end up disappointing themselves because guess what we're never getting those good times back just appreciate what Good memories of the zombies we have back then because guess what that flame is never coming back

[@malentoasty]

I've been replaying cold war zombies not remembering it fondly but you said it pretty perfectly in your intro. Mechanically cold war is very close to perfection, it's just the story and imo the personality that is lacking. (everything just looks like generic military bases or labs, and no squad of 4.) I also really liked the camo grinding, just gave me more goals other than ee, and encouraged me to use different guns.

[@WhatisReal11]

its the game that destroyed zombies , I don't know what you guys are talking about

[@malentoasty]

@@WhatisReal11 what do you mean by destroyed? Cold War did some drastic changes, not all were good, but that doesn’t mean it has nothing, I think the perk and pap systems are much better than 3 and 4. It’s lacking personality like I said, you don’t deposit and get a little ding, I miss that. But the 3 buffs with scaling cost, and choosing your secondary effect instead of rerolling over and over are an improvement. Wunderfizz actually being useful, you can buy every perk but with a big scaling cost. I think that’s great. I’m iffy on the loadout system, I like the idea of starting from fresh but it’s also nice not having to hit the box over and over for the weapon you want. All the extra stuff you can do like armor, buy cool scorestreaks, the extra gear you can bring. I think that stuff is cool, it’s just again lacking personality. It’s generic military or science stuff. Armor and the old shields are basically the same, but the shield has personality. The operators are cool, choosing the one you want, customizing them, they just have no personality. I think the mechanics are great. Just not memorable.

[@millerr8066]

@@malentoasty armor and shield are not the same. The shield often serves several purposes, usually being an integral part of completing the Easter egg. Meanwhile, the armor system is just something they copy and pasted from Warzone. not to mention the shields are actually something that you have to learn to build, you just get the armor and put it on.

[@malentoasty]

​@@millerr8066 it blocks zombies hits, the basic function of what they do is exactly the same. What does finding all the parts and building it do? What are the EEs? Personality.

[@PsychedelicCubee]

Honestly I really go back to die machine and sometimes firebase Z, yeah the other two have some really cool wonder weapons but they’re just an eyesore to play imo

[@TrickGamer55]

"This amazing stream of awesomeness" had me dying💀💀💀

[@cukoil]

"I KNOW DAMN WELL THATS NOT A CATALYST ZOMBIE" -tim 2020, cold war zombies reveal trailer

[@Don_Edits18]

Tim hansen the goat

[@dshuck77]

Tim you truly are the best. Only Zombies player I really enjoyed watching.

[@darkvpr3211]

Burger town is in Forsaken because the map is based off of a campaign mission which was just a simulated american city

[@rabbittv3714]

they really are the last men standing

[@maartenbondt9600]

I feel like the perks were a bit broken in CW but it was great overall!

[@buckypeterson9601]

Cold War caught my attention for the first 2 maps, idk why I just never cared to play the other maps. It may have been because the hype wasn’t there like b03. Sadly I don’t think we will ever have that hype again no matter how good the maps are

[@jacobmay5711]

I actually couldn’t play this when it came out I have a lot more free time now so this is for sure my favorite zombies game experience and I’ve played since world at war every game does something good but I just feel like the overall gameplay and feel of this zombies mode is better than any of them maybe not origins lol but then again that map was just insane. I love the video. Can’t wait for B06 to come out.

[@Average_Internet_User101]

OG Zombies players (My Age [25]) be like: - "B - B - BBut, I can't sprinkle zombies with bad weapons to get cheezy points😭" (No more easy/lazy points farming, now you actually have to maximize points through Skill [Headshot Kills] and Risky Plays [Knifing]) - "No more sense of progression since you can spawn in with any weapon you want😭" (Sense of progression in BO3: Spawn, Get to Gobblegum Machine, get perkaholic [In case you didn't get perkaholic: Leave match and start new one]) - "No more 1911 starter pistol that sucks at anything beyond round 1😭" (The 1911 is actually usable now) Bonus: You can actually choose to spawn with the 1911🤣 - "There's no reason to hit the Mystery Box anymore since you can spawn in with any weapon😭" (Reasons: Mistery Box weapons can drop at higher rarity, you can get DLC weapons, Variety, Wonder Weapons) - "Salvage and weapon rarity suck they're non-intuitive😭" (Max Packed weapons shelling out entire magazines just to kill zombies at round 70+) - "Armor Sucks it makes the player too strong and Zombies too easy😭" (Get's cornered in BO3 at round 25+... Leans back in chair [Alternatively pops cheezy Gobblegum])

[@TomIsQuestionable]

My opinion on each of these points (I in no way hate Cold War and in fact quite enjoy it, but many of these features could have kept the old system for an even better game) -Old point system simply ‘felt’ better, seeing lots of little +10s next to my point balance is way more satisfying than multiplayer-esque kill pop-ups that clutter the middle of my screen. Maximising the points is still risky because you are losing killing power, leaving you to potentially run out of ammo which will eat into the increased amount of points you get from aiming for the body. -Perkaholic was overused due to liquid divinium glitches and dashboarding, with a limited supply of already rare gobblegums, players would be hesitant to use them in most games. -Starting with the M1911 and other starting pistols are an iconic part of zombies, and rewarded the player for using one of their weapon slots for a terrible weapon until they could Pack-a-Punch it to get amazing weapons like Mustang and Sally or the Boomhilda. -Without the ability to customise the attachments of weapons other than your starting weapon, weapons in the mystery box often have garbage attachments that feel significantly worse than your kitted-out starting weapon. Box weapons also didn’t tend to drop with high enough rarities to be worth using, as it wasn’t difficult to get a purple or gold rarity starting weapon and a wonder weapon before the box starts dropping golds. With everything in the box except wonder weapons being undesirable, it was much better to spend points on trials for a more efficient way to get wonder weapons. Luckily BO6 seems to be fixing the attachment issue on box/wall weapons. -Salvage as a secondary currency was mostly looked down on as you have to open the scoreboard to see it, and all uses of it require the use of a menu instead of feeling like you’re interacting with things in the world like wall-buys or the box. Weapon rarities are a net negative, as although we gained more weapons being viable, there wasn’t a reason to upgrade anything other than your starting weapon, and weapons stopped being powerful on the basis of being a ‘strong gun’ but rather being strong because they’re a different colour. Also once you get to high rounds, AATs always deal infinite damage so with or without the rarity system you would realistically only use your non-wonder weapon on high rounds when your AAT is off cooldown or when your wonder weapon runs out of ammo. -The armour system sucks not because it makes the game too easy (it feels like the same boost as having a zombie shield) but because the zombie shield rewarded the player for map knowledge for part locations, had personality as it often had unique designs across maps, and doubled as a weapon in dire situations with some shields having special attacks to have them double as a kind of wonder-weapon-lite that fulfill a power fantasy and feel rewarding to obtain. Also the “cheesy gobblegum” while cornered has never left, it’s called your field upgrade, but both of those are basically single-use for the near future so if you get caught out consistently by not being good at the game, you’re done for.

[@Average_Internet_User101]

@@TomIsQuestionable I hate to have to do this to you but: 1 - "Maximising the points is still risky because you are losing killing power" there's no risk in "Swapping to your water hose gun" to get some free cheezy points, but then again that could just be a Skill Issue 2 - Gobblegums will never make Zombies Immersive as the core philosophy of gobblegums is literally to get a cheezy Out of any respective situation (I really mean respectively) 3 - and that exactly used to be the problem some weapons were great, some were mid but some were outright unusable, with Cold War literally every weapon can at least scale along side Zombies 4.1 - You can apply saved Blueprints on any weapon from the mystery box 4.2 - Expecting Purple or Gold weapons from Mystery Box at early rounds just shows how you just have unreasonable expectations... No Mystery Box should give you any Purple or Gold Weapons in early rounds otherwise there would be no sense of progression 5.1 - I hope you're not saying that Whilst interacting with an Armor Stand 5.2 - "weapons stopped being powerful on the basis of being a 'strong gun' but rather being strong because they’re a different colour" yeah and in older COD that "Colour" just meant a different PAP level camo, it's just that in older COD not even that made some weapons usable 5.3 - "AATs always deal infinite damage so with or without the rarity system you would realistically only use your non-wonder weapon on high rounds when your AAT is off cooldown or when your wonder weapon runs out of ammo" Yeah... and that didn't sound like fun, that sounded like a tedious loop to overcome (Infinitely Scaling) Zombies... oh wait, It was! 6.1 - Shields feel rewarding for sniffing the same 3 sections of the map, "Interacting" with a Crafting Table wow 6.2 - "Also the “cheesy gobblegum” while cornered has never left, it’s called your field upgrade, but both of those are basically single-use for the near future so if you get caught out consistently by not being good at the game, you’re done for" exactly, but notice how casually you breezed past a vital point... EVERYONE can use a Field Upgrade, NOT EVERYONE can use a cheezy Gobblegum if: 1 - They haven't gotten it yet 2 - They just used their last one (Before that match)

[@TomIsQuestionable]

@@Average_Internet_User101 Everything I don’t respond to is a statement I don’t have any problems with on your part: 1 - You are sacrificing one of your weapon slots in that case, basically cutting total damage in half. 4.1 - I forgot you could do that, but it is not as robust as BO3 where you have to open your pause menu instead of it being immediately applied to every copy of that gun you obtain. 4.2 - The same principle applies at earlier rounds. You would have enough salvage for a green/blue gun before your starting weapon is weak enough to consider hitting the box. 5.1 - The armour stand is not on my screen at all times to show me a currency that is integral to progression. 5.3 - You said yourself that zombies on high rounds in Cold War are still difficult to kill even with legendary weapons, even with the generous health cap instead of infinite scaling you would likely only use AATs on regular guns to kill zombies unless using the noob-tube with PhD and Ring of Fire. 6.1 - Knowing what three areas of the map to look in is still more rewarding than just ‘collect enough salvage’, you could say the same about knowing the music easter egg of a map which the vast majority of players wouldn’t know, therefore feeling rewarded for having that knowledge. Interacting with the crafting table, armour stand, new Pack-a-Punch and new Wunderfizz feel much worse to use as gameplay is interrupted by a menu instead of everything else being ‘hold X to buy door’ or ‘hold X to buy perk’, especially in such a high-action gamemode like zombies. 6.2 - Unless you are Scrooge McDuck, the “cheesy gobblegum” you would use in a corner is either ‘in plain sight’ or ‘anywhere but here’, both of which are classic gobblegums meaning they are entirely free to the player, and if you run both in your pack you are also guaranteed to get one every two rounds using your three hits per round assuming you aren’t moving between two gum cycles, in which case it’s one guaranteed every three rounds.

[@Average_Internet_User101]

@@TomIsQuestionable Ok so to clarify 1 - "You are sacrificing one of your weapon slots in that case, basically cutting total damage in half" this entire statement looses all it's sense of meaning as soon as Zombies scale high enough to survive being shot by weapons, because from that point on "Weapon damage output" literally becomes futile 4.1 - I agree with me too, and furthermore that system is even better than you think, you can have multiple Loadouts of the same weapon save meaning that (When you get any weapon) you can choose from a loadout: - With/Without Supressor - With any of the following: Iron Sights, Red Dot (For weapons with unpreferred Iron Sights) or even Higher Zoomed Scopes (For more accuracy for certain EE steps and long range picks in Outbreak) 4.2 - If it was the other way around there would be no incentive in spawning in with a specific weapon to farm Dark Ether (Camo) for! Bonus: Adds an extra layer of Sense of Progression and Late round investment reward 5.1 - True, but the Score Board can be (Score Board shows salvage) 5.2 - " You said yourself that zombies on high rounds in Cold War are still difficult to kill even with legendary weapons" - No one said that - Lying is one way to concede the Argument 6.1 - That would be true, however Survivability is a core mechanic of the game, and locking a portion of it behind a Fetch quest instead of a Currency and/or intuitive Crafting system is just flawed, furthermore when it relies on having to memorize specific sections of each individual map which some people might consider that a mechanic that's too disconnected from the core gameplay (Literally by the fact that it's usually when players stop killing zombies and go around sniffing for parts) 6.2 - "in which case it’s one guaranteed every three rounds" that's one way to say it's not guaranteed every round... see when it comes to Cheezy survivability party tricks, they shouldn't be an RNG reliant mechanic because (By Definition) RNG Based Survivability is just flawed if not all out Unfair

[@TomIsQuestionable]

@@Average_Internet_User101 1 - By the time that non-wonder weapons stop effectively killing without AATs, you would have a near-limitless amount of points (even in Cold War), so saying point guns have no downside at that point is redundant as farming points at that point has become redundant. 5.1 - Just because you’re able to use the scoreboard to view salvage doesn’t mean it shouldn’t be able to also be seen at a glance just like points can. 5.2 - You can’t accuse me of lying when the second-last point in your original comments states “(Max Packed weapons shelling out entire magazines just to kill zombies at round 70+)” 6.1 - A compromise could be made by buying a map-specific zombie shield with salvage, and doing a side easter egg to give it a unique weapon function.

[@xVasq]

can’t forget that they changed it from PPD (Points Per Damage) to PPK (Points Per Kill) so you technically get less points

[@Ballrnaxion]

One of the greatest zombies ever

[@honestlyktk]

Love you’re videos Tim :)