Cold Weather Towline With the Schweizer 2-22 Glider

This film shows part of the first trim session with the 36" Schweizer SGU 2-22 towline free-flight glider, designed by Tom Hallman. For a few days after seeing a tempting forecast, I had convinced myself not to go to Wawayanda, NY. Even though it would be 1-2 mph and sunny all day, the 16º temps at sunrise, and a high of only 33º, didn’t bode well for FF fun. Still, at 9PM the previous night, realizing I’d be dropping my son off at a train station in NJ or his return to Brooklyn, it also put me a 1/3 of the way to Wawayanda. Crazy ‘gotta fly’ mode took over, so I loaded the van with 3-4 rubber jobs, along with the Schweizer.
The glider was to be my focus, but at least I had a few other friends along for the ride, just in case.
But I never got to them after my 11:30 arrival. I was not expecting to drive thru snow in the higher elevations, so I was glad to see only spotty snowy areas on the sod.
I started flying around 12:15, then was spooked by the floaty glide…so I needed to make sure the DT was active. That took about 30 mins to resolve in the cold temps, but as least I had something to keep her close and avoid a flyaway. I was very surprised to see lift in such cold air.
18 flights later, I left for home after the 4:30 sunset. The shortest day of the year, winter solstice,
but I was very pleased to have been there for the afternoon. Well worth the trip.
Temps 28º, 1-2 mph all day.
Here's a summation of the flight log:
Flights 1 thru 3: The model pulled to the right during the tow, so I added increasing amounts of left rudder & nose weight.
Flight 4, I added a 2" x 1/16" sq. balsa stick, a Gurney flap, to the underside of the right side TE, which lifted the right wing panel and gave it a straighter tow. It still faded a bit to the right and released early, but it also caught some air, giving her the longest flight of the day at 73 seconds.
Flight 5, pulled a bit to the left, came off early. The wind direction was shifting left or right all day, so I wasn't always able to launch directly in the mild breeze.
Flight 6, I added another Gurney flap, this time on the top of the left side TE, midway toward the tip. This was the first tow to go directly overtop of me, so I was pleased! Came down in 40 seconds.
Flight 7 was also straight, releasing nearly overtop for a 44 second flight.
Flight 8 released perfectly overhead, giving me a floaty gentle circle to the right and her 2nd best flight of 62 seconds. Temps 30º.
Flights 9 thru 11 were solid with mostly straight tows, and flights under 40 seconds. The air felt suddenly heavy, with the tissue wrinkling even more, taking on moisture. I was tempted to try hi-start, but there was only an hour or so left in the day, so I kept it safe & simple, going with towline.
Flight 12 pulled directly overhead for a clean release, then started to circle higher than ever before, appearing to be in lift. But my DT tripped early, bringing her down for only 30 seconds, though at least I was able to see her successfully go thru the dethermalizer process.
Flights 13 thru 17 were clean but duration was beginning to lessen with the cold & damp air.
Flight 18, the final flight near the 4:30 sunset, was straight with a high release, as the geese started to cross over the field from numerous directions. She headed toward the sunset, floating in for a 35 second flight. With that, I called it a day.
For the entire session, I left the tow hook at the original location, about 30º in front of the CG, but I might consider a slight adjustment next time out. Before I try the hi-start, I want to make sure she can track straight each time, even with the slight shifts in wind direction.
This model will be the FAC one-design for 2024. A short kit of the model will be available from Volare Products in September 2023. Stay tuned for the announcement. Filmed with an iPhone 11Pro & 14Pro, and a Canon SX20-IS. Music via MotionArray.com.
Here's a design by Peter Kaiteris for a simple towline winch using available objects. Cheap and adaptable. hallmanstudio.c...
Here’s the reel attachment for a Rees 10:1 winder. Anyone with a 3D printer can make one. Instructions: www.facflyer.co...
Download the STL file at: www.thingivers...
Badge Classic DT source, used on this model: www.starlink-fl...
Article on various DTs (dethermalizers): www.hallmanstud...
Flying Aces Club merchandise: www.cafepress....
Center of Gravity merchandise: www.cafepress....
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National Free Flight Society - freeflight.org/
Mike Stuart's Flying Scale Models - www.ffscale.co.uk/
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[@ZUSMANELEN]

It is a real Gift to us all to get to see her flying beautifully high in the sky like that, especially after having watched the full building process video a few days ago! Thx. JOYEUX NOËL À VOUS ET À TOUTE VOTRE FAMILLE!😊🎄🎁🎉🛫😉

[@maxfliart]

Merci Elen. Tout le meilleur pour vous et votre famille et vos amis tout au long de la nouvelle année.

[@jacquesdesbecquets1106]

Bonsoir from Canada, les amis! Maxfliart, this has to be one of the nicest free-flight designs -- and video! -- that I have ever seen! The 2-22 is often an overlooked subject; I am reproducing a full-sized one for radio control flying (my wingspan is 80 inches). I will "cheat" and hide an electric motor with a folding propeller up front, but I will also install an aerotow release mechanism. Alas, up here in Canada, the Feds just removed some of the flying privileges which we had... we're now grouped along with drone machines, as if the flight characteristics were alike. Not only will we -- everything weighing over 250 grams -- have to maintain a log book for every model and every flight, but our operative ceiling has been capped at 400 feet... so this season does not bode well for we thermal chasers. We're hoping that our MAAC association (the equivalent of your AMA) will be able to talk some sense in the policy makers in order to recoup our privileges. Anyway, I wish you many, many enjoyable flights with your great-looking 2-22!

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Jacques. I appreciate the kind words. I've embraced towline and hi-start this past year in a big way. I hope u still have fun with ur ceiling flying. 400' is still way up there, but I hope ur DT or other ways of returning to the ground work well for u. Cheers! Please send me a note or post an image once u have her in the blue.

[@stephenfarthing3809]

What a great antidote to the stress of modern living! I have always loved building and flying free flight model aircraft, and your videos have inspired me to take time out and build some more. I wish you Merry Christmas and a peaceful New Year. Thanks for the inspiration, and sharing your amazing work.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Stephen. In these uncertain times, free-flight and building is rather grounding.

[@harryspeakup8452]

That's a wonderful glide, you must be right in the sweet spot for Reynolds number for that plank wing. Thank you for the detailed trimming notes.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Harry. I hope so. Looking forward to seeing her fly in much warmer temps.

[@gernotrieger2338]

Thank you for your beautiful videos! It is some kind of Zen to watch you building these tiny artworks and also to watch them flying without any human influence. It reminds me of my beginnings in aeromodelism. Early German types were “Der kleine UHU”, “Beginner”, “Filou” a.s.o. I built all of them, some even several times because they had the bad built in feature to fly away… mechanical timers were too expensive for a poor pupil in the early sixties. Best wishes for you from Germany, Gernot

[@jessyemandaroux5013]

So peaceful pictures to begin this new year : Wawayanda natural landscape, the pretty glider model, the changing skies with the noisy geese flights at the end . your modeling is pure poetry, everything is beauty in your videos. Thank you to share with us this quiet modeling practice, I learn a lot... I wish you the best for 2023 !

[@maxfliart]

Many thx. Cheers!

[@tcsyme]

Tom, late to the party, I know, but here I am. My first solo flight was in an orange 2-33 affectionally known as "The Carrot", over 40 years ago. Thanks for the memories! Thayer

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Thayer. I'm really enjoying getting this bird into the blue. More to come from this past week at Wawa

[@maxfliart]

Is the 'carrot' still around??

[@tcsyme]

The short answer is "maybe." Apparently memory is a funny thing. I don't see the word "Carrot" in my logbook, so while I am confident about that ship being at Sugarbush when I was training, I'm not absolutely sure that was my solo ship. My solo and most of my time was in N7759S. Google tells me that is a 1968 Schweizer 2-33 s/n 129, exported to Canada in July 2009. I also had a few flights in N7757T, as clearly noted by both my instructor and myself on different days. Interestingly, Google thinks that is a 1960 Cessna 172, and still has an active registration. Even more oddly, N7757S is also a Schweizer 2-33, but that is not quite the N-number in my log.

[@taildragger7355]

Nothing like cold still air for flying. Thank you for one last winter gift of the year. Always yields a smile.

[@johnparr5879]

Pure. Flight. Pure. Joy. Pure and Simple *

[@maxfliart]

I concur, John.

[@johnparr5879]

@@maxfliart Have Happy festive season and thanks for your ongoing and creative....... content*

[@glennreach6930]

Gosh, that glider is just so beautiful. The colours are perfect for it. And the flights, pure magic.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Glenn. I loved how she looked against the blue & the snow.

[@CliffHarveyRCPlanes]

Brilliant Tom, and I bet you smiled when the geese appeared to set the scene beautifully 🙂👍

[@maxfliart]

Haha...yes...cue the geese!! I figure if u fly often enough, something unusual or lucky will happen...like the falcon that chased my Stahl Hurricane old-timer a couple of years ago...while filming with a mini cam onboard. Unthinkable. Cheers to the New Year, Cliff.

[@jeffpiatt3879]

Reminds me of many happy days flying RC Sailplanes. I have resisted the urge to add a motor and battery to my planes. Have stayed with a quality Hi-start- all these years. Love the challenge of "making it" on my own. There is something about an aircraft that is totally free to rise or fall based on the thermals that it finds.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Jeff. I too enjoy the challenge of old school, keeping it simple, which can lead to major rewards & enjoyment. Cheers.

[@tuppyglossop222]

I never tire of seeing your flat-pack pilot at the controls...

[@XXfea]

A jazzy Christmas soaring ⛄❄️

[@citicolina]

Oh wow! Isn’t she a floater! Don’t ever forget to set the dt on a hot day or she’ll go on forever. Beautiful flights, loved seeing some snow on the field. Merry Christmas from Alberta, Canada! 🇨🇦

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Jorge. I suspect flying over snow is common for you?

[@citicolina]

@@maxfliart I fly mostly RC and yes, to a point, but where I live the snow usually comes with very low temperatures (at least for me! Lol). My limit is around -15 °C (5 °F) where my hands hurt too much wearing thin gloves to feel the radio. But we call winter the building season!

[@jacquesdesbecquets1106]

@@citicolina Aren't you the one who supplied me with Royal Canadian Air Cadet Schweizer 2-33 photos, years ago?

[@jamesberwick2210]

I'll be in line for a set of plans. One for FF, one for micro-RC and do some small field soaring. My first big RC model, a 1-26 from Dan Lutz plans. I learned to fly on a hill not far from home in the Bay Area. Might try a micro 1-26 too.

[@johnharen9921]

It's trimming out well Tom and it has a beautiful glide. Merry Christmas and thanks for all your videos.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, John. I'm pleased.

[@Melw44]

Just found your channel. A lot of beautiful models. Watched the tissue covering video and a bunch more! So nice! Thanks for sharing!

[@garycaruso4883]

Wow really nice! thanks for for the great content!

[@mdtidwell6095]

I love your work. Always inspiring. Hope you 're staying warm. Merry Christmas

[@maxfliart]

Thx. Cheers.

[@TheMendipman]

What a wonderful day Tom. Happy Christmas to you and yours. Noel

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Noel Cheers to u and ur family. Thx for following the channel these many years.

[@michaelgillespie1206]

She flies beautifully.

[@FleischmannH0]

Looks like a real one and happy holidays

[@pperretjr]

Thanks

[@user-hm6mo7zm6p]

아주 훌륭한 비행기입니다. 당신의 주변에 비행기를 날릴 수 있는 이런 멋진 장소가 있다는것이 정말 부럽습니다. 언제나 즐겁게 감상하고 있습니다,.

[@maxfliart]

감사. 일년 내내 이 필드를 비행할 수 있다는 것이 행운이라고 생각합니다.

[@harrykeel8557]

Beautiful, have a Blessed and MERRY CHRISTMAS, a HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Harry. Enjoy the holidays.

[@shop970]

You have touched a place inside many with such great work! Super modeling. Wonderful flying. Thanks so much!

[@maxfliart]

Thx for your kind insights. Much appreciated.

[@TonvM]

Pure magic

[@jetflyer102]

Great video my friend.

[@marcolyott]

Looking forward to having a try at making this when the plans are out Tom. Happy Christmas from Devon UK, Cheers Marc

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Marc. I'm very pleased with the potential of this bird. If u can't wait, there's a plan for the Schweizer 1-19 on the Outerzone, which is similar. Single seater with a slightly wider cord. But I went for the 2-22 because there were so many more color options....and she's perhaps a bit more stylish. Cheers.

[@walk4718]

The geese sounds was a cool refrain

[@CheshireTomcat68]

Nicely filmed as always. Happy Christmas mate.

[@maxfliart]

Thx for the kind words. Cheers to the new Year.

[@williamrobinson7435]

A big Happy Christmas to you Tom and your family. Thanks so much for all these breathtakingly beautiful flight videos, like this one and all the superb build films.. Here's to many more in the New Year! 🎄🌟

[@maxfliart]

Thx, William. I appreciate the kind words and support.

[@thermalascension]

Perfect 👍

[@danielkopp9590]

Nice!

[@615thAeroSquadron]

Very nice my friend!

[@Tadrjbs]

My favorite model again, beautiful piloting by Lizzy...the geese know which way to go on shortest day of year. Beautiful pro video. Merry Christmas Tom...Moses

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Moses. I'm glad that I made the effort. BTW, that's 8 yr old Zinnia as the pilot, my granddaughter, Lizzy's daughter. :-)

[@user-ee4wv1mc4p]

Bravo!

[@rtrider48]

Nice satisfying and relaxing afternoon at the field

[@johnmajane3731]

You really have the plane dialed in. I am amazed you get so much height on the launch just winding it in.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, John. I couldn't have been more pleased after her first day. Her floaty glide made the frozen sod a non factor. The line is about 165', so with a few turns of the reel...at 8 feet per turn, u can guess the eventual height after she releases directly overhead.

[@johnmajane3731]

@@maxfliart I admire your art. Aspire towards that level. Working on a Comet Fury, using a lot of the kit lumber. Ready to cover now.

[@tross1964]

I'm glad you decided to get out and fly Tom. The conditions here were also surprisingly good. I'm hoping to give scale glider a try this season, a 10:1 winder looks like the way to go. Thanks for posting. tr.

[@robc5296]

I have been flying RC successfully (no crashes yet) for 2 seasons now, but I had to tell you- your column in Model Aviation magazine and this channel has inspired me to expand into FF also. As others have said, it is so relaxing to watch your planes fly. Doing my homework for a good 1st build now. I hope to one day fly at the Wawayanda, NY site, as I live in the Hudson Vally. Keep this great content coming, thanks so much.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Rob. Ur always welcome to use the field.

[@bradalgra8088]

Sheer artistry, from the bench to the sky! Would be interested to know if you keep a "logbook" for each of your models? And, do you record times and trim changes made to them? Thanks for another great video. (like the towline graphic on the outro, btw))

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Brad. I generally keep notes thru the first few trim sessions, but after that, I just go back to what worked, and stay with the same motor and max winds.

[@bradalgra8088]

@@maxfliart Thanks Tom. Happy Holidays!

[@Yosemite-George-61]

Beautiful! You're up there with the orange ball golfers! :-) I tried to fly a Guillows Mustang while stationed in Alaska, it was about -15, when I went outside, the wood started to crackle and the tissue to wrinkle so I quickly went back inside and never again tried. Happy Holidays! Looking forwards to see more in 2023.

[@maxfliart]

Haha. I've ROG'd in 24º off the frozen sod turf and hoarfrost. Fortunately she stayed together. Not sure if I would have tried at -15. kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2e1g3yhZsqkmLs

[@mmascitti]

Excelent!

[@barkebaat]

3:07 - Great scene !

[@maxfliart]

Thx. I always wanted to see it lift off from that vantage point.

[@GlideLA]

Whose lovely smiling face is that in the cockpit? Assuming she is your wife or daughter--either way you are blessed. Merry Christmas to you and the Flying Aces club.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, that's lovely little Zinnia, our 8 year old granddaughter. Cheers.

[@GlideLA]

@@maxfliart Thank you and holiday joy to you all. Severe weather being what it is.

[@stephenpropnut7486]

Aero modelling purity!

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Stephen. There's a lot to be said for the enjoyment of simplicity.

[@flymachine]

Wow!

[@eyesquish485]

outta my way geese

[@stevie1246]

Gorgeous glider. RCers (including myself) should learn to build light and straight as freeflyers, and become trim experts. Most RC flight vices are masked by engine power and radio trims.

[@paulnelson5314]

Wow! I can’t get enough of this. Stunning flights. Tom, where do you source your supplies? Such as winders, tissue, dt’s, props and the like

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Paul. I hadn't flown in over two months, so this was indeed a treat. I use mostly Easy Built & Volare. Their links are above in the film description. DTs are through another source which I've also linked up.

[@scottfw7169]

Ya know, without that DT to bring her down, you'd be reading next week's Daily Mail headline about the RAF intercepting a mysterious tiny glider over the Thames.

[@maxfliart]

Ha. In warmer temps, u may be right. Cheers.

[@davidbarfield1431]

Always love your flight videos as well as tutorials. One thing I've noticed is how clear and clean your windows are. Do you have an instructional video on attaching plastic for windows? Especially flat sided ones and wrap around windscreens, not vacuum formed.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, David. I've probably shown still shots in some of the start to finish films, but I haven't yet done a full tutorial. Thx for the suggestion.

[@kenkingsflyingmachines2382]

O'Hare says the wind is 12 gusting to 28 and it's -3°, so I don't think I'll get out to try my luck with my gliders today. You had some great launches there. I see you abandoned the kite reel for a geared thingy. I have a hard time getting my planes to the top of the line...I suppose it's a matter of practice. I was digging through some old mags from the 90's the other day, and there was a picture of something built by Tom Hallman! Whaddya know? Merry Christmas!

[@maxfliart]

Yeah...12 to 28 wouldn't be fun. We've flown towline in 10-15mph and it was shocking to see that it became impossible to reel it in from the pull force. The 7-8" dia. kit reel worked fine for my first attempts at towline, but this 10:1 approach is much more powerful. The difference of 22" to 96" of line pull per turn of the crank. But I did enjoy the more frantic nature of the kite reel. Getting to the apex is more about the trim of the model, and the position and shape of the tow hook. It's almost shocking the first time she releases directly above or even beyond.

[@stevestyx4712]

What a great model. Could you please share some details of the 10:1 reel you used. Would love to try this type of launching. Looking forward to many more videos in 2023. Happy New Year!!

[@maxfliart]

Hi Steve. The 10:1 is the classic Dave Rees winder, which he produced for Flying Aces Club flyers through the late 80s in to the early 2000s. Many of us in the FAC use it, so the towline reel attachment was specific to this Rees winder. Occasionally they show up on ebay or at Volare Products website (link above). I've also included the download links for the instructions and 3D file for the reel attachment. I'm looking to make a tutorial for making reels using various winders that are more readily available. These simple winders range from 5:1 to 10:1, which have proved to do a good job of pulling the gliders into the blue.

[@maxfliart]

Here's a design by a friend for a simple winch using available objects. Cheap and adaptable. hallmanstudio.com/Simple_Winch.pdf

[@stevestyx4712]

@@maxfliart Thank Tom for taking the trouble to reply to my question. The Rees winder looks like it could be reverse engineered for 3D printing and made into a purpose built glider launcher. There are a few rubber winders on Thingiverse so maybe a combination of designs could be used.

[@Strattonlad1946]

I wonder if a fast retrieve spinning reel would work, paired with a good rod? I will have to try that!

[@NANNIRC]

Fantastic plane!! Do you need me to say you Bravo? It seems obvious. Ciao Nanni

[@maxfliart]

Thx!

[@robertrussellmd]

Tom, I really love these glider videos. Someday, I would love one of your tutorials on towhook placement. Also, how are you able to trim for a straight tow path followed by a curved glider path.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Robert. I'm enjoying the process too, since it's all new to me too.Earlier this year was my first towliner. I'm relying on the experience and advice of a few friends who have decades and literally a lifetime of experience. When the temps get warmer, I hope to put a more thorough film together on the process of trimming out this glider. But generally, the starting point for the hook is 30º in front of the CG, which is where it is for this bird. My goal was to first get her to track straight. Once the release and glide happened, she was on her own. I was pleased that she had a gentle circle.

[@johnmuffy2848]

I used to own a 2-22E. Do you know if there are scale prints in 1/4 scale for this, or anything with a 62" to 100" wing span? I will subscribe to this site in case you have any info at all. Beautiful AC. Doc

[@Walkerflyer]

Fabulous. Tom, do you find that tissue sags a bit when it's cold or a bit damp out there? Does it re-tighten when back in the warm?

[@maxfliart]

Thx. Yes, the Micro-X tissue I use is quick to wrinkle in the mildest damp air, but it will quickly go back to tight as a drum in the sun or heat. It's known to have the lowest shrink rate amongst the other tissue brands, which helps to avoid warps, if u build light. Unfortunately, it is no longer available, so ebay or estate sales / friends is the only place to find it.

[@Walkerflyer]

Thank you.

[@Strada62]

I really enjoy watching your channel, it's super informative and relaxing to just sit back and watch these aircraft fly, you're a true master at your hobby! Question, do you believe it to be not good practice to dope the tissue?

[@maxfliart]

Thx. I appreciate the kind words. I haven't doped tissue in over 30 years, preferring instead the dusting of Krylon. While dope seals the tissue, and leaves a more smooth, plastic-like finish, it also causes light structure to warp continually thru the lifetime of a model. Krylon is much lighter and freezes the shrinking process like magic...with the trade off that the tissue will pick up any damp air and turn quickly into a wrinkled finish. In the heat of the day, and warmer temps, it's always drum tight. I suspect in July, these flights would have been quite a bit longer. Looking forward to that for sure. Cheers.

[@Strada62]

@@maxfliart You're welcome! Great advice, I would have never thought of using Krylon. I did notice that dope phenomenon, i had built a Peck Polymers Andreason P-nut model, used some SIG Nitrate dope, it was a bit rough on the airframe. I agree, I'm looking forward to the nice warm days of summer. I have to mention, you made me chuckle when you were winding up a model and stated, "It's like disarming a bomb" Ha!

[@indoorglidiator3285]

Beautiful flights. Is that winder specific for towline?

[@thebalsaboy]

I believe I have come to the right place for this. First, great model, real floater. But the main thing I was coming here for was to ask: Do you have any good ideas for navigation lights? I’m building a dime scale TBF Advenger.

[@maxfliart]

Thx. For some, I take a clear drying glue like Sobo and place a few drops on wax paper or on the end of a balsa rod. Once dry u can float some thin red and green over it for an effective look.

[@thebalsaboy]

@@maxfliart thx for the tip!

[@edhornet41]

Show....

[@daviddavids2884]

noice

[@thebalsaboy]

Another quick question because your probably the most experienced modeler I’ve seen, I’m building a quick A-Frame while my tissue for my TBF is shipping. I just finished carving one of the props and I thought: does one of the propellers need opposite pitch? Because wouldn’t that level out the torque? Hopefully you can answer this.

[@maxfliart]

So ur building an Avenger with a three-bladed prop? I don't have any experience with three-blades, but to flip the pitch seems unlikely. U would be pulling and pushing air at the same time, which would act more like a brake. The only time I flip the pitch is on a twin, where the rotation is also flipped so that both props turn over the top toward the wing tips. That tends to neutralize the torque while pulling the ship forward.

[@thebalsaboy]

@@maxfliart yeah, it was a little confusing but what I was trying to say was if I needed to opposite moving propellers for my aframe, and I just felt like saying that I was building an a frame twin pusher while holding on my adventure because of supplies shipping. Thx

[@abuljeon]

Hello, really wonderful as usual. Do you sell the 10:1 winch for the trailer or did you manufacture it? Regards.

[@maxfliart]

Thx, Andres. A friend designed it with his 3D printer, which attaches to a Rees 10:1 winder. Unless u have the Rees winder, I'd see issues with this working. But I can send u a link to his 3D design if interested.

[@abuljeon]

@@maxfliart Thanks, it would be great to see it.

[@maxfliart]

@@abuljeon Update. I've added the links below my flight summation above. Also includes another design using a simple 5:1 or 10:1 winder and a broom handle. I'll be making a tutorial soon on this easy to make winch. Cheers.

[@johnmajane3731]

What tissue do you use I have white Esiki Tissue but need an alternative.

[@maxfliart]

I use Micro-X, which has not been available in the market for over 20 years. Check out my FF Basics #2 on covering, where I've mentioned a few options, with some rather inexpensive. Surprisingly, Hallmark has a few packets that are very close to the weight of Esaki. This is the one specifically that I've found to be quite good. Look for #399TIS1016 on the packet. www.hallmark.com/gift-wrap/tissue/white-tissue-paper-35-sheets-399TIS1016.html?searchterm=399TIS1016&searchkey=399TIS1016&oq=399TIS1016

[@johnmajane3731]

@@maxfliart thanks for the information!

[@motoflyte]

Is that your duaghter in the pilots seat...

[@maxfliart]

Hi...no, it's my granddaughter Zinnia Jane, Lizzy's daughter. She asked to have a new picture taken, since the others I've used of her were "...so old when I was five..."! True words from a new 8 year old.

[@madhukarjonathanminj2772]

@@maxfliart lol

[@garydickens7567]

You're going to lose that......

[@maxfliart]

Hopefully after only many many many flights & memories... :-D

[@bearshield7138]

ettt

[@stanburdick9708]

28degees and out flying??????I used to be that crazy even flew in the rain,your pretty hard core partner😎

[@maxfliart]

Haha. It's fun to explore the unexpected.

[@rfenton313]

Wow!

[@Rotorman524]

Nice!