Coleman Hughes: Harris vs, Trump - The Best Arguments For And Against Each - Final Considerations

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@killa3x
@killa3x Ай бұрын
My man Coleman. Been following this guys since he was 20.
@JohnDorian-j7x
@JohnDorian-j7x Ай бұрын
And now he's 22, wow, time flies.
@Bryaaammnnn179
@Bryaaammnnn179 Ай бұрын
@@JohnDorian-j7xPretty sure he’s like 29 now
@markbisson6166
@markbisson6166 Ай бұрын
@@JohnDorian-j7xthere’s no way he’s only 22
@l2ic3
@l2ic3 Ай бұрын
So like 3 weeks? Lmao
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
I didn't respect him before but after all this and he says he's not voting. That seals it. Gutless.
@jdavis85
@jdavis85 Ай бұрын
On the question of whether Christian conservatives would be happy to have Noam in his neighborhood: I know an Israeli man in a very red, very Christian area in rural Washington. After October 7th, his neighbors were baking him cakes and cookies with stars of David on them to show their sympathy. They really do feel a lot of sympathy for the Jews in this moment, in my experience.
@hartyewh1
@hartyewh1 Ай бұрын
Older americans are pro-Israel and pro-jewish certainly, but the younger generation seems very questionable atm.
@jasonmolgren-vn9od
@jasonmolgren-vn9od Ай бұрын
"All politicians do because this is their career" is the problem and another reason to vote Trump. Being a politician was never SUPPOSED to be a career. In fact, it was desirable, once upon a time, that someone left a career to SERVE as a politician, then return to that career once their term limits were up. This would mean that politicians would have to face the ramifications of their policies, and therefore govern with that in mind. These career politicians have no connection to the private sector and have never dealt with policies from the position of most citizens. Kamala is the embodiment of the career politician with no perspective.
@terranbishop5549
@terranbishop5549 18 күн бұрын
She had an affair with Willie Brown to get her foot in the door as a career politician and it worked in super woke San Francisco. And as DA, she had a pile of pedophile priest cases on her desk and did not go after a single, ONE of them. She is as corrupt as they come.
@Jacob-Vivimord
@Jacob-Vivimord Ай бұрын
I love that you read the comments, Noam, but as the podcast gets bigger, there's going to be a greater volume of negativity in here, regardless of how well you articulate sensible positions. Just know when to step back, if it starts affecting you.
@comedycellarclips
@comedycellarclips Ай бұрын
Very good advice. Thank you.
@annielou--2599
@annielou--2599 Ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this discussion!
@bmartin7716
@bmartin7716 Ай бұрын
It is obvious that this group has a fundamental understanding of what is actually happening in the USA. With that said, I am profoundly disappointed at the refusal of all these characters to not take a stand. If these "patriots" were the driving force in the late 1700's, we would still be subjects of English rule. Instead of "Give me Liberty or give me death" our motto would be, Give me Liberty ,.... unless it becomes uncomfortable and I don't want to make a decision"!!!
@lembergnative7731
@lembergnative7731 Ай бұрын
it's possible that you're the one that doesn't understand the notion of liberty.
@vegasdice3639
@vegasdice3639 Ай бұрын
To my Jewish allies, I don't blame you at all for supporting Trump. I've been in the Democratic party my entire life and I've never seen my party disregard obvious antisemitism like they are now. It's gut-wrenching! God save Israel. Prayers from Greece.
@trogdor20X6
@trogdor20X6 Ай бұрын
I blame them for supporting trump 100%. He literally tried to coup our government. There’s no excuse for that ever.
@RGatGala
@RGatGala 27 күн бұрын
Who in the mainstream faction of the democratic party has disregarded obvious antisemitism?
@vegasdice3639
@vegasdice3639 27 күн бұрын
@@RGatGala Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, Cori Bush, Ayanna Pressley I can keep going but you won't care/deny it.
@RGatGala
@RGatGala 27 күн бұрын
@@vegasdice3639 literally none of these people are mainstream dems, they are far-left
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 25 күн бұрын
@@vegasdice3639 there are definitely problems with the extreme Left of the party. That is how I would describe the (embarrassing) collection you describe. I'm not familiar with CB. They are not what I'd call mainstream. Jewish Democrats are definitely in a tough position. Politics are so broken in our country that we can point to the fringe on both sides and become disgusted pretty quickly. (Jewish space lasers anyone?)
@gtamir613
@gtamir613 Ай бұрын
You're wrong about a President having limited power. It depends on what they want to do. There are definite plans in the Trump-led Unity Government in both domestic and foreign policies. This is especially true with Kennedy, Tulsi, and Elon, who bring a tremendous following and knowledge base that includes real plans to accomplish real goals for the American People.
@BruceWing
@BruceWing Ай бұрын
The Haidt-elephant analogy is beautiful and very apt. Frankly, that’s why I’m voting Trump. I believe the governmental guard rails contain him.. versus the Left which ARE the guard rails… thus allowing the Left’s extremes to be implemented. I am very worried about racial, sex, and sexual orientation identitarianism; the influence of gender ideology on Title IX, and foreign interventionism given foreign nations taking advantage of US to underfund their own defenses, military-industrial complex incentives, weak US manufacturing capability, federal debt, and decades of disappointing results… all while romanticizing “US leadership in the world”. The above being said, I respect those that perceive Trump to be a greater risk than I do… as long as they also admit the Left has very frightening policies too and a better ability (than Trump) to implement them. It’s why I admire Coleman.
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
@@BruceWing Just insane to me. Kamala has spent the vast majority of her campaign refusing to talk about race/gender stuff, meanwhile the Trump campaign is talking about minorities constantly.
@BruceWing
@BruceWing Ай бұрын
@@jorgemartinez42069 - That’s true only in a very pedantic sense. Remember, she is the individual that says she supports all of Biden’s policies (eg farm bill which prioritized benefits by race, interpretation of Title IX thru gender theory lens). She also supported BLM and has the history of supporting those very far-left identitarian policies (eg tax-payer funded surgeries for illegal aliens). She also supports the elimination of college debt via executive order (clearly an unconstitutional act, even before SCOTUS ruled against action). Given her past expressions of belief and past actions in respect to those beliefs, I don’t believe her being quiet about them now is indicative of her future behavior.
@BruceWing
@BruceWing Ай бұрын
@@jorgemartinez42069 - As for Trump, I am happy to agree that the man says unnecessarily hyperbolic things on occasion (eg eating pets). That said, his actions clearly show that he is directing his wrath against illegal immigrants and policies which foolishly make large numbers of otherwise illegal immigrants legal (eg thousands of Haitian immigrants residing in a small town in Ohio)… thus causing real problems relating to housing and the taxpayer cost thereof, schools and the ability to teach kids of various languages and the additional taxpayer cost, and hospital services and taxpayer subsidized costs.
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
@@BruceWing I agree with you on the Farm Bill thing, but I think the support of BLM is highly exaggerated by right wing media. Yes, she supported the idea of justice for black people being killed by police unjustified, but she did not ever support riots and looters. But regardless, even if I take all of what you said as true and grant you those things for the sake of the argument, I don't see a world where those things are somehow *worse* than undermining democracy in the most authoritarian power grab in US history. Ben Shapiro himself on January 7th said it was the worst thing to happen in the US since 9/11. I can't see how you think that's okay to support and that some racialized politics, even if bad, are somehow worse for the country than a literal coup attempt.
@BruceWing
@BruceWing Ай бұрын
@ - I appreciate your civility, but disagree. The degree to which people want to hold Trump accountable for the riots of 1/6… should be equal to or less than the degree people should hold the media and politicians accountable for the BLM riots. Trump directed the rioters to be peaceful… even though his rhetoric clearly made people hot. Leftists politicians, media outlets, and celebrities supported the BLM rioters by claiming the BLM rioters’ actions (which caused much more damage and killed many more people) were justified.. based on lies the media and politicians have been feeding the public for decades regarding race. See research from Roland Fryer, etc for details. Personally, I don’t want to vote for Trump because his effort to have Pence reject the electors was a terrible act… even though it is also clear that many states violated their own election laws in support of drop box/mail-in ballot initiatives that may have cost Trump the election. Because Democrats engaged in a hyperbolic (that word again, but for Ds now) effort to impeach Trump for insurrection - something Trump clearly did not do - they lost support from Rs that would have impeached Trump on the request to reject electors. Had Trump been impeached, DeSantis would be running on the Republican ticket… and Kamala Harris would still lose this election.
@Kimberly-ks6bu
@Kimberly-ks6bu Ай бұрын
Didn't over 80% of Kamla's staff turnover in her VP term. Many said it was a toxic work environment
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 Ай бұрын
And 40 out of 44 of Trump's cabinet see him as a danger/ do not support him.
@bklan9899
@bklan9899 29 күн бұрын
@@nancya7289 Because he fired them for incompetence. You are naive and privileged, so leaders holding the people around the accountable for their actions is foreign to you.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 25 күн бұрын
@@bklan9899 what I inferred from Coleman's comments about McMaster's book is that Trump's problems with temperament, mood, attention present substantial issues with his ability to communicate in an orderly focused manner. Incidentally, the ad hominem accusation of my privilege and naivete is neither logical nor civil.
@Greatpacificnorthwesterner
@Greatpacificnorthwesterner 17 күн бұрын
@@bklan9899Can you give a few examples of why or how those 40 people were incompetent? Sounds like a sweeping Trump talking point that you believed . But I’d be interested in seeing more details about how each of these 40 people were incompetent. Did you delve into this further before believing it? If so, explain.
@bklan9899
@bklan9899 17 күн бұрын
@@Greatpacificnorthwesterner He's done interviews about. You can listen to him talk to Joe Rogan about a lot of it. It's not a secret,you can easliy look into it yoursefl. Why not do that instead of bothering me about it? Ohhh becuase you think everything is a debate and every random person owes you an explanation to correct your ignorance. They don't. Listen to people you're not supposed to and get the full picture,.
@tarafreedom2584
@tarafreedom2584 Ай бұрын
Thank you Coleman! I have always admired your brilliant observations! I had already made my decision for not voting for either of these two BAD candidates. However here you helped me to nicely formulate the logic behind my decision! Sincere thanks!! 👏👏🙏🙏🙏
@DiegoRivera-qp8pe
@DiegoRivera-qp8pe Ай бұрын
I think we need Instituitions but the problem is the Instituitions and the people at the top of them are severely corrupt. I think there might be blinders when it comes to taking a general at face value as if generals didn't get to where they're at by playing the game. If I misspelled something it's because I'm on my phone.
@MeniSpeyer
@MeniSpeyer Ай бұрын
great content coming out of this channel
@robertbradley8276
@robertbradley8276 Ай бұрын
You are deluded about mcmaster. Way too accepting about what he says. What are his goals? And what are they really?
@davidfoarde558
@davidfoarde558 Ай бұрын
I’m glad they loomed up the dictator on day one…now do “fine people”, Bloodbath, this Liz Cheney one….I swear to god it’s insane when you start realizing all the main things you know about Trump being bad were completely blown up by the media. Now, it doesn’t mean he’s some perfect guy, far from it but you try to tell people and they just don’t believe you because it’s so overwhelming the amount of lies. And everyone has already built their opinion of him partially off of thinking he did all that stuff. Again, watch him talk he does say brash offensive things but so much of the big stuff that they STILL bring up was total crap. It’s so infuriating the old media deserves to have their credibility dropped down an elevator shaft
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 Ай бұрын
Trump is an obviously terrible person. His record of lying is simple proof of one of many aspects of his terribleness. Unfortunately, liberal media is so freaked out by how to respond to his terribleness, that it overcorrected. Thus people like you have lost sight of his obvious terribleness. This I believe.
@dimitrikorsakov2570
@dimitrikorsakov2570 Ай бұрын
25:14 Anyone know which episode of Haviv's podcast Coleman is talking about?
@comedycellarclips
@comedycellarclips Ай бұрын
podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/unpacking-israeli-history/id1529341876?i=1000674697581
@neopix6229
@neopix6229 Ай бұрын
Need to listen to this twice
@gtamir613
@gtamir613 Ай бұрын
Sorry Coleman. It's about outcomes when it comes to Trump's foreign policy. None of his actions or words were ever "crazy." Trump understands what JFK understood - that having a relationship with your adversaries was critical to preventing war.
@user-eg6nq7qt8c
@user-eg6nq7qt8c Ай бұрын
Totally agree about relationships and communications with adversaries. Less so on the "none of Trump's words were crazy" claim. I don't know if they were technically crazy but they scared the bejesus out of people from time to time. Paraphrasing a tweet.. mind you a tweet..from the President :. "Little rocket man, I have a red button too and it's bigger". That's kinda crazy. It's hard to imagine JFK passing that message to Krushchev in the midst of the Cuban missile crisis.
@toddpacker4683
@toddpacker4683 Ай бұрын
Trump didnt have a relationship with dictators to prevent wars, he [raised them because they buttered his ego up and told him how great he was, they played into trumps narcicism and trump is so stupid he doesnt notice
@begshallots
@begshallots Ай бұрын
If you like trump, it’s despite the “ easy.”
@wakkablockablaw6025
@wakkablockablaw6025 Ай бұрын
@@user-eg6nq7qt8c I agree. But threats are a genuinely good strategy.
@murderparker7968
@murderparker7968 Ай бұрын
Not wanting to defend Candice Owens here, but I believe she’s claiming that Harris is just Indian and Irish. I don’t think she’s claiming Harris is a Jew.
@deborahsaunders5520
@deborahsaunders5520 Ай бұрын
I've been listening to Candace's genealogy research and recently it appears she's found a Jewish connection. It's all interesting if true. Wonder if we'll ever know the truth.
@rra6033
@rra6033 Ай бұрын
@@nancya7289the Jamaican father has mixed heritage . The mother of his father I believe has Jewish heritage. One of Kamala’s grandfathers or great grand fathers was a Jewish guy from the UK.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 Ай бұрын
@@rra6033 what I do not understand is why anyone cares. Harris has a complex background. So what?
@rra6033
@rra6033 Ай бұрын
@@nancya7289 I agree with that. I’m Indian and of late she has not pulled on her Indian heritage during this presidential campaign. Doesn’t bother me one bit, nor does it make me question her Indian ancestry. So if she’s part Jewish and part black, So what? Just means she’s all of them.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 25 күн бұрын
@@rra6033 historically, people who find genealogical information "interesting" can turn out to have all kinds of associated icky beliefs. Reminds me of Tucker Carlson's Samoa comment. Inklings of the eugenicist thinking.
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
You disqualify yourself when you say you’re not voting.
@comedycellarclips
@comedycellarclips Ай бұрын
The logic of my argument does not depend on if or who I'm voting for. Just pretend it was a anonymous article.
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
Just vote
@mcspanky3241
@mcspanky3241 Ай бұрын
@@comedycellarclipsnot voting is the type of “soulless” intellect behavior you talk about in this video. Pure moralizing and posturing without real world concern.
@Paradox-dy3ve
@Paradox-dy3ve Ай бұрын
​@@philbobstreehouse4900 make me.
@apdanielski
@apdanielski Ай бұрын
​@@philbobstreehouse4900 no
@Traderbear
@Traderbear Ай бұрын
Top priority is to always make sure that our humanity is given over to AI. There must always be artists, musicians, actors.
@calighis
@calighis Ай бұрын
@1:03:40 the fact that she took data based approaches to determine if her biases could be verified before speaking out, and finding the data to be at odds with the hypothesis and therefore saying nothing is leagues over Trump's instincts. It is commendable in fact. This is night and day differences. It doesn't make her a lesser person to have investigated this question.
@liamweinberg4902
@liamweinberg4902 Ай бұрын
What’s unwise is not her silence on the matter, but that she’s focused on it to the extent of having her staff conduct detailed research into the perceived bias.
@NicholasWongCQ
@NicholasWongCQ Ай бұрын
The fact that she's into such nonsense is the problem. That's the whole point. She's a loon.
@patroit2931
@patroit2931 Ай бұрын
It shows you where her priorities are. And it's not a good thing
@wayne7936
@wayne7936 Ай бұрын
That elephant and rider analogy is an excellent lense to compare Trump and Harris.
@cjd2555
@cjd2555 Ай бұрын
Regarding Sirius giving you the comedy boot: Sirius should definitely keep airing your podcast, and just put it under a political / world events banner instead of the comedy banner. As context, some other political podcasts that I like and listen to are Sam Harris and Lex Fridman, and I rate you above Lex and on par with Sam. Sam, like you, is a truth seeking, fair minded guy, but I think you actually handle debate with your guests even better than he does.
@ehyeh365
@ehyeh365 Ай бұрын
This will be pretty d great!! 👍🏼
@LeviNotik
@LeviNotik Ай бұрын
An engaging discussion, as always. 44:35 What evidence can you present, Noam, for labeling Trump as having an authoritarian personality? While I can acknowledge that some of his rhetoric may lean that way, we now have the perspective of his four years in office to evaluate. In retrospect, the record does not suggest he embodies true authoritarian behavior. In contrast, consider Biden's administration, with policies such as mandates and the use of OSHA regulations. To me, these actions align more closely with the traits of authoritarianism than those demonstrated by Trump.
@comedycellarclips
@comedycellarclips Ай бұрын
Have you read Mike Pence's letter to Nacy Pelosi after January 6th? Any of the books by the many people who served with him?
@Emcye3
@Emcye3 Ай бұрын
Attempting to illegally retain power is about as straightforwardly authoritarian an action that a president can take.
@HowManyToasters
@HowManyToasters Ай бұрын
OSHA is authoritarian but preventing the peaceful transfer of power isn't? Threatening to suspend the constitution isn't? Submitting false states of electors in an attempt to STEAL AN ELECTION ISN'T????? I cannot believe you people are real
@davidfoarde558
@davidfoarde558 Ай бұрын
I know she didn’t mean it this way but at the end when the guy is talking about how he kinda had this understanding or appreciation for the people at the Trump rally and was building this wonderful bridge and the woman’s is like “well do you think they would be happy to have you In their neighborhood?” Yes. They would…I mean any giant group is going to have assholes and bigots but this stereotype that these people are like all racist in the furthest from the truth. I don’t know that line just bothered me because what he was saying lines up with what I have seen. Don’t get me wrong there are bad people just like any group but that’s not the majority. I know you guys were saying you didn’t like JD Vance but go listen to him on some Podcasts, I don’t agree with all his opinions but he’s a very regular guy. Anyway I loved this discussion..
@slammin120889
@slammin120889 Ай бұрын
Screw XM… make a Patreon or Substack w/ a paywalled members only and I’ll pay! Best podcast
@rdalge
@rdalge 12 күн бұрын
What did the Abrahamic accord fix?
@asdfghjkl53887
@asdfghjkl53887 Ай бұрын
Somebody fucked up by including a parenthesis at the end of the hyperlink to Coleman's article.
@nefaristo
@nefaristo 25 күн бұрын
I'm from Europe and every time I hear that USA have a racial policy I have to listen to it over and over because I tend not to believe it. The very fact that you're racially filed is incredibly regressive. Besides, how do they racially profile new legal migrants or citizens or mixed newborn? They measure your skin tone with some optical machine? 😂😳😢.
@MichaelDamianPHD
@MichaelDamianPHD Ай бұрын
Sam Harris says Kamala offers a return to normal politics. The guy has no clue.
@vkevpe
@vkevpe Ай бұрын
With Harris you will get more woke. I’m done with woke. Not voting for Trump, though he wasn’t bad and he might do well. He might not. Either way, I’m voting against Harris. Tired of the insanity of intolerant Democrats. Voting Trump.
@NiftyChrono
@NiftyChrono Ай бұрын
Define woke
@SuperKripke
@SuperKripke Ай бұрын
Wokeness is an entirely fabricated controversy. If the US turns violent it will probably be led by those who have guns and have an irrational fear of having those taken away by the government. It won't be by Ivy league students with gender studies or environmental sciences majors.
@Dividing-u3r
@Dividing-u3r Ай бұрын
You dont think it got more woke between 2017 and 2021? Also, Why tf would you vote for a president because of one will make society more woke and one wont? society wont change much at all depending on who is the president.
@Bryaaammnnn179
@Bryaaammnnn179 Ай бұрын
Definitely things will get more woke with Trump. The fact that Harris never mentions her race or gender on the campaign trail shows that her campaign recognizes that people (even democrats) are tired of that stuff. The woke stuff got insufferable under Trump because MAGA is genuinely so racist and vile that it gave the woke ppl a semblance of having more legitimacy
@drockopotamus1
@drockopotamus1 Ай бұрын
@@NiftyChrono Define woman
@ericfransen4371
@ericfransen4371 Ай бұрын
Harris as the elephant: the leftist media headline: "Noam compares Harris to a fat elephant."
@jessiejb4684
@jessiejb4684 Ай бұрын
Literally all the high ranking people speaking against trump, I despise for their bad foreign policy and the misguided ideology that guides it. I like that trump doesn’t listen to them, but who is he listening to? I actually like jd Vance or what I know of him so far. He’s actually intelligent. A rarity in dc.
@JohnDorian-j7x
@JohnDorian-j7x Ай бұрын
What do you think about JD Vance saying he'd reduce the military aide to Ukraine? Its one thing to want to try and bring an end to the violence/war... but its another thing to do it on Russia's terms instead of Ukraine's or even the West/US. Other than that and a few other key things like him refusing to call out Trump's loss and his semi-coup attempt after losing, I agree that JD Vance sounds reasonably level headed and intelligent, if not a bit "weird" lol.
@ricardocima
@ricardocima Ай бұрын
You mean the guy that said women should stay in abusive relationships ?
@j0n.p
@j0n.p Ай бұрын
Those "high ranking" people are warhawks who are being paid by NGO's who want perpetual wars, which they know Trump wants to stop. They were also fired, so there's probably some grievance there.
@JohnDorian-j7x
@JohnDorian-j7x Ай бұрын
@@ricardocima just the kitchen
@NicholasWongCQ
@NicholasWongCQ Ай бұрын
Isn't Coleman in a safe blue state?
@223brandan
@223brandan Ай бұрын
Saying Intersectionality is anti semetic is an insane statement imo. Also I felt you guys strawmaned a lot of the critiques of trump.
@Emcye3
@Emcye3 Ай бұрын
15:07 I could be mistaken but I don't see the better avenue to be taken here re: Iran. Sanctions relief in exchange for Iran agreeing not to pursue a nuclear weapon, empowering more moderate factions in Iran strikes me as more reasonable than the alternative of... starting a war with Iran? I don't see another path by which Iran doesn't obtain a nuclear weapon.
@lunaryear7515
@lunaryear7515 Ай бұрын
Exactly. Iran hawks need to explain how they're going to accomplish any of their goals with at least a five figure body count.
@MuMill24
@MuMill24 Ай бұрын
Sanctions. The Regime was nearly bankrupt and facing a looming revolution, and the JCPOA flooded the regime with money, allowing them to stay in power and enforce a brutal crackdown of the Iranians
@jalemairliha
@jalemairliha 29 күн бұрын
And who do you feel would be better at empowering dissidents in and outside of Iran to take down the regime?
@Emcye3
@Emcye3 29 күн бұрын
@@jalemairliha I don't think either would struggle to side with dissidents in Iran. Hell, Kamala said the other week that Iran was our biggest enemy (I disagree). That said, I think this conversation is mostly orthogonal to the question of Iran getting nukes.
@bkrumer
@bkrumer Ай бұрын
I think Coleman owes Ben an apology. I've never hears Shapiro make excuses for or deny Jan 6.
@MattTheStatsMan
@MattTheStatsMan Ай бұрын
Shapiro says it wasn't a problem because they failed at the coup. Which is among *the most terrible takes ever*, but necessary if you want to support Trump.
@eja9539
@eja9539 Ай бұрын
But when he downplays something like Jan 6 but then something like drag story hour is turned up to 💯 makes no sense to me.
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
@@eja9539 Exactly! His statement on January 7th: "This is the worst thing to happen in this country since 9/11." His statements a few months later when he realized his conservative audience doesn't want to hear that and the party establishment shifted to obfuscating what really happened: "Well, I may not personally agree, but I believe in the guard rails [ignoring the fact that there are *less* guard rails this time] and Dems are making too much out of this!" It's like bro, your genuine reaction was literally that Trump was behind one of the worst events in US history and you're going to pivot to running defense for him so you don't lose your audience? We live in crazy times. Every person of average intelligence these days just wants to live in a cozy little media bubble telling them what they want to hear, not what's necessarily true, and it's destroying this country. This applies to both sides, to be fair, but only one side is currently trying to reward someone who tried a literal coup attempt because their media misled them.
@bryankinney1
@bryankinney1 Ай бұрын
Yeah but Shapiro is a cheap grifter so I forgive Coleman
@mikenice1204
@mikenice1204 Ай бұрын
you couldnt be more wrong about shapiro. grifter?? site some examples ​@bryankinney1
@kchart47
@kchart47 Ай бұрын
KH has an add taped in front of the border wall.
@shamsam4
@shamsam4 Ай бұрын
New York is ridiculous.
@lesliehunt4078
@lesliehunt4078 Ай бұрын
very interesting conversation. I think there is a misconception about Bobby Kennedy's take on vaccines. He isn't anti-vax. He's just trying to get certain ingredients removed from vaccines that are known to be harmful. He doesn't like the mRNA technology either
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 Ай бұрын
I learned this distinction from Coleman!
@LiViro1
@LiViro1 Ай бұрын
1:13:44 That laugh :-D
@marlesecarroll9686
@marlesecarroll9686 29 күн бұрын
she is socialist Please
@signalhd9793
@signalhd9793 Ай бұрын
Coleman looks like a bobblehead on the thumbnail😂
@PierreDuFromage
@PierreDuFromage Ай бұрын
I don’t understand how people opt out of voting rather than supporting third party candidates.
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
just vote. All these people do is whine and Yakkity yak and jerk off but when it comes time to do your duty as a citizen they don't vote. pathetic.
@deborahsaunders5520
@deborahsaunders5520 Ай бұрын
2016 was the 1st and only time I did NOT vote feeling like there was NO choice: Hillary or Trump. At the time, I was so disappointed in the choices of the typical either Left or Right candidates that I didn't even consider a 3rd party. I'd never paid attention to a 3rd party. This year I paid attention.
@sandragomez4757
@sandragomez4757 Ай бұрын
Cause sometimes 3rd party does not align with policies that we agree with either that’s why…
@ricardocima
@ricardocima Ай бұрын
Very disappointed with Coleman. Not the time to pretend there is equivalence between the two "evils".
@amanky11
@amanky11 Ай бұрын
Wait, which side are you supporting?
@ricardocima
@ricardocima Ай бұрын
@@amanky11 the one that accepts electoral results, of course.
@christianliriano344
@christianliriano344 Ай бұрын
@@ricardocima Meh. Trump 2024!
@ricardocima
@ricardocima Ай бұрын
@@christianliriano344 follow the rules, or else stay away from the game. It's that basic.
@yngwz
@yngwz Ай бұрын
@@christianliriano344 Yeah, that's an anti-american cult.
@calighis
@calighis Ай бұрын
@1:04:40 the Antisemitism Awareness Act is being stapled onto the reauthorization which is a must pas bill. It creates a framework w/ consequences for the DOE and creates a domestic coordinator with consequential and far reaching powers to enforce.
@mightymoeish
@mightymoeish Ай бұрын
Cringe
@cameroneagle4370
@cameroneagle4370 Ай бұрын
doesnt that claim that reading the bible is antisemitism ?
@mpen7037
@mpen7037 Ай бұрын
You’re voting for someone to be a President not Jesus or Messiah. Also human have flaws. Ask yourself this two questions; was your life better with Joe/Kamala or Trump.
@mpen7037
@mpen7037 Ай бұрын
I hate when people say something negative about administration when they dodnt even Vote.
@mpen7037
@mpen7037 Ай бұрын
I believe these KZbinrs are grifters
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
the worst part of this is they say they're not voting.
@epiphaniesjuxtapozed
@epiphaniesjuxtapozed Ай бұрын
Great cast for the most part, the takes on RFK JR were were in bad faith and without qualification and measure.. yes I’m MAHA!
@danielsaulnier29
@danielsaulnier29 Ай бұрын
A lot a misrepresentation on Kamala here as far as the current far left stuff goes. Haven’t seen her say a thing while campaigning to make anyone think she is pro Palestine or anti Israel or antisemitic. Her choice in Waltz over Shapiro had to do with the fact that Shapiro would have outshined her in every regard and he himself was honestly the best choice for the nominee which would have made her look terrible. I’ve yet to see a single moment in which she’s proclaimed anything other than fully backing Israel while working toward a ceasefire which she only says to placate idiots as she’s well aware that won’t happen until Hamas is gone.
@jalemairliha
@jalemairliha 29 күн бұрын
Do you think she'll support Israel to continue dealing with Iran? Or will she pressure Israelis to contain themselves? Thereby kicking the can down the road. Or do you think she'll engage American military action, possibly in partnership with Israel, to thwart Iran's push to the bomb? How bout dealing with China and their growing aggression vis a vis Taiwan? Who do you think America's enemies like China, North Korea, Iran, Venezuela, etc. would rather see in the White House? Or, from the opposite perspective, who do you think the Gulf States would prefer? These are not gotcha questions. I've always lived on the center left. But foreign policy is now my biggest concern. Democrats have always been wishy washy about demonstrating full American power and establishing deterrence around the world. It's needed now more than ever.
@stephenkolenda
@stephenkolenda 6 күн бұрын
Tucker Carlson loves Isreal so maybe you should do little research before slanderous him
@LL-wc4wn
@LL-wc4wn Ай бұрын
This is a high iq analysis. I'll add that picking who will be less worse here is not possible. No clear answer here.
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
Yeah the lady who says some bumbling things and carries a little too much water for woke people or the guy who tried to overthrow our government and undermine core American values... They really are both the same! 🙄
@SuperKripke
@SuperKripke Ай бұрын
2:00 I believe Noam is getting to form a name for himself as a "genocide denier". That's probably why Sirius dropped you guys. It's one thing to ignore the genocide. It's wholly another to platform people who have witnessed the genocide just to interrogate them with bad faith questions.
@comedycellarclips
@comedycellarclips Ай бұрын
Name one bad faith question.
@SuperKripke
@SuperKripke Ай бұрын
@comedycellarclips Asking him why he tweeted about a starving child but not the gunshot wounds to the head. The full list of your bad faith questions can be found in an Oct 19 tweet by To Bree or Not To Bree.
@TheAvadonna
@TheAvadonna Ай бұрын
Periel's laughter makes Kamala's cackle sound melodic and charming. I mean, it's truly remarkable.
@justinharnick7803
@justinharnick7803 Ай бұрын
This is how you know comedy has gone the shitter. Hinchcliffe at MSG, Vance on Dillon, Coleman on this
@j0n.p
@j0n.p Ай бұрын
43:40 Calls Trump a fascist, then lists 10 reasons why the other side are the true fascists, unironically.
@MichaelH1232
@MichaelH1232 Ай бұрын
It blows my mind that you have that take from this segment. This happens often when I'm talking to somebody and I want to lay out the most charitable case, and data points that support their viewpoint to demonstrate that my conclusion is not coming from ignorance of the issues...then they think I have just unwittingly made an argument in their favor. 😅 All you can do is sigh and take another note not to bother engaging with them 😅
@carolhasidim6612
@carolhasidim6612 Ай бұрын
Good grief.... everyone on this podcast - even Coleman - are so confused!! And you think you are the non deplorables?? As an American-Israeli , I look at you Jews and your lack of any connection to Judaism is just sad and embarrassing.
@bryankinney1
@bryankinney1 Ай бұрын
You sound like a jackass
@gtamir613
@gtamir613 Ай бұрын
You guys are over-analyzing Trump. He knows how to relate to real people. Stop sounding so superior - it doesn't suit you guys...
@TheAvadonna
@TheAvadonna Ай бұрын
This is the first time I've heard you guys discuss politics amongst yourselves, and not interviewing a guest per se. Speaking as an Israeli who has never lived in New York I have to say -you sound so out-of-touch. The way you speak about the "simple" people may sound ok to you, but to anyone outside of your bubble it sounds condescending and patronizing. If this elitist atittude is what some working class people associate with American Jews, than I can understand the annoyance. You guys should hang out more with Israeli people.
@bryankinney1
@bryankinney1 Ай бұрын
Sounds like you completely misunderstood them. Perhaps work on hearing comprehension?
@bryankinney1
@bryankinney1 Ай бұрын
Sounds like you're clueless more like. Perhaps work on your listening comprehension.
@marcevan1141
@marcevan1141 Ай бұрын
Sorry, Coleman, the fact that Harris is not Trump is more than enough reason to vote for her. You should listen to your mentor Sam Harris.
@JVBLOUIN
@JVBLOUIN Ай бұрын
Maybe for you... but not for a lot of people...
@HowManyToasters
@HowManyToasters Ай бұрын
@@JVBLOUIN Only because they're completely uninformed. Anyone who's read anything about Trumps court cases should see him as completely disqualified from ever holding office again. I guarantee you haven't read a single sentence from any court filing.
@tinytanks
@tinytanks Ай бұрын
22:03 rofl, coleman (a native new yorker) imitating a new york/new jersey accent is so funny, he is just galaxies separated from the old new york.
@joelharvey
@joelharvey 29 күн бұрын
He’s not a NY native, he’s from Claremont NJ
@robertbollert7375
@robertbollert7375 Ай бұрын
I agree with your prosecution of the left and actions of political figures etc. However, as a person with a Russian Studies degree who speaks the language it would be helpful for all three of you to read Timothy Snyder`s The Road to Unfreedom that shows exactly how Putin manipulated first Russian then foreign opinion and actions towards authoritarian tendencies through chaos etc. Trump literally uses the same phrases and techniques because of an unbelievable amount of contact and financial indebtedness between himself and Putin but more importantly the political and financial influencers that Putin employed in his Eurasian Project to disintegrate Russian society, America, the European Union and NATO. That being said, the fact that Obama/Biden/Harris don`t understand deterrence, peace through strength, and the absence of American power creates a vacuum filled by actors like Iran. They still don`t understand that Israel is fighting a war with Iran that not only must they win for their own survival but the survival of what I will plainly call Western Civilization. Trump doesn`t understand the same about Ukraine. These two wars are now partisan "issues" are part of a larger war. I have now lived for 25 years in Korea and Japan which is under U.S. security agreements and I don`t have any faith that Trump will maintain those obligations even if he hires someone like Elbridge Colby for NSA who desperately wants to focus more clearly on China than Europe or the Middle East. Both choices are horrifying for me. Both parties have turned into the worst versions of themselves and we need to create new parties to compete against them. Thanks for the discussion.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 28 күн бұрын
When Noam states that Trump did not interfere with the populace, my thoughts went to kids in cages, families deliberately separated, and access to gynecological care. [It is exactly because of the crazy abuse of immigrants under Trump that I'm furious with Biden's incompetence around monitoring the nation's borders. So politically naive/reckless.] But I digress. On this day after the election, my heart goes out to the young women who will not have access to care. While I get that Noam sees this as respecting state's rights, on a gut level it seems to me that the natural consequence of unwanted children being born into a society with an inadequate social safety net is psychological trauma and misery. And it's scary to think of Stephen Miller -- or a Miller type -- being put in charge of immigrants. This must be a terrifying day to be an immigrant. Finally, I'm surprised no one discussed the prospects of implementing Project 2025.
@yeilyn24
@yeilyn24 26 күн бұрын
USA TODAY The claim: Michelle Obama criticized the Trump administration for putting kids in cages, but the cages were built during the Obama administration Kelly asked Johnson about a 2014 photograph of him touring an Arizona facility for migrants along with former Gov. Jan Brewer. The picture is archived on the website for the Arizona Capitol Times. Johnson explained the picture was taken during a spike in unaccompanied minors crossing the southern border of the country. "The photograph you're referring to was a facility in Arizona - I recognize the photograph because Gov. Brewer was with me - and it was during the spike ... and we had a lot of unaccompanied kids, we had a lot of family units. And under the law, once they're apprehended by the border patrol, within 72 hours, we have to transfer unaccompanied children to (the Department of Health and Human Services). And HHS then puts them in a shelter, and they find placement for them somewhere in the United States." Johnson explained. Local NBC affiliate KVEQ reported on the conversion of a McAllen, Texas, warehouse into a holding facility for up to 1,000 migrant children in 2014. "You can't just dump 7-year-old kids on the streets of McAllen or El Paso. And so, these facilities were erected ... they put those chain-link partitions up so you could segregate young women from young men, kids from adults, until they were either released or transferred to HHS. Was it ideal? Of course not," Johnson said. Michelle Obama's assertion that the Trump administration tore children from their families and threw them into cages alludes to "a frequent and distorted point made widely by Democrats," according to the AP. The facilities designed during the Obama administration to temporarily hold migrants were used for a similar purpose by President Trump, the AP also concluded. Our rating: True We rate this claim TRUE, based on our research. When someone holds one warped viewport. Then everything else is warped, unfortunately your sympathy is based on a lie.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 25 күн бұрын
@@yeilyn24 thanks for that information. Do you think that the language that Trump and officials use to describe the issue is humane? Is the following an exaggeration? "Mr. Trump had a series of extreme designs for the wall. He wanted spikes on top, black paint to burn the hands of immigrants trying to scale it, possibly a moat at the bottom. He wanted it 30 feet high. He queried at one point whether migrants could be shot in the legs to slow them down. Aides ignored such suggestions." If not, what do you think such ideas suggest about Trump's character/administration?
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 25 күн бұрын
@@yeilyn24 test.
@yeilyn24
@yeilyn24 25 күн бұрын
@@nancya7289 I don’t understand.
@nancya7289
@nancya7289 25 күн бұрын
@@yeilyn24 hello! I was doing a test because I couldn't find my reply to you. Here it is again. >>thanks for that information. Do you think that the language that Trump and his officials use to describe the issue is humane? Is the following, from a recent article by expert Trump journalist Maggie Haberman, an exaggeration? "Mr. Trump had a series of extreme designs for the wall. He wanted spikes on top, black paint to burn the hands of immigrants trying to scale it, possibly a moat at the bottom. He wanted it 30 feet high. He queried at one point whether migrants could be shot in the legs to slow them down. Aides ignored such suggestions." If the above is a reported fact, what does it suggest about Trump's character/administration wrt immigration policy?
@bellajones12345
@bellajones12345 Ай бұрын
It's not just about who's president. It's about who's going to be surrounding them. I cannot for the life of me imagine JFK Jr et al being in Trump's cabinet and making some of the most important policy decisions that will most definitely affect everyday Americans and the world for that matter. You guys are so myopic. This is another bro podcast I will never listen to again.
@oraz.
@oraz. Ай бұрын
What Noam's first anecdote tells me is that opponents of wokeness are passionately fixated of trans stuff exclusively and only occasionally will someone like himself come around and briefly show them there are other issues.
@comedycellarclips
@comedycellarclips Ай бұрын
You couldn't be more wrong.
@oraz.
@oraz. Ай бұрын
@@comedycellarclips I'd be curious to know how
@cameroneagle4370
@cameroneagle4370 Ай бұрын
the woke movement is racist at its core , racism the foundation of being woke
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
​@@cameroneagle4370I agree that wokeness goes too far and don't like DEI initiatives, but I can't possibly see how that's a bigger problem materially impacting Americans' lives as a whole over a guy who tried to undermine the entire American system and everything it stands for. Just insane thinking.
@cameroneagle4370
@cameroneagle4370 Ай бұрын
@jorgemartinez42069 the problem you are having is that millions of us don't but into that manufactured narrative that trump did any of that or that he is a threat to the country.... do you know that media lies to us ?
@dtkeyse
@dtkeyse Ай бұрын
I am sick of Republican or Republican leaning attitudes pretending like they should give advice for the Democratic Party. That’s insane. Also it took you years to realize Trump speaks in hyperbole. It’s so he can skirt the truth and blame others when it goes wrong. It’s not a reason to be less afraid. Completely wrong read of his rhetoric.
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
I just can't possibly understand how the fake elector scheme isn't an *automatic* disqualification for Americans. If you read the facts prepared by the J6 commission, there is no argument for Trump acting in good faith. He tried to undermine the core of American institutions and tradition. All these conservative leaning people are saying, "Well, he didn't succeed." As if that somehow makes it better? Especially now that he's purged all non-loyalists, meaning the remaining people willing to work for him are crazier, as well as the fact that the supreme Court ruling has given him far more leeway to try and successfully attempt it in the future.
@Helofelokids
@Helofelokids Ай бұрын
4 dollars a gallon for gas, 10.dollar burgers, and can't walk downtown at night in Democrat led cities. I'm done voting for woke Democrats until Democrats get back to the days of a Dem like Ed Koch in NY.
@martinzarathustra8604
@martinzarathustra8604 Ай бұрын
"intersectionality is by definition antisemitic" - It was at this point, regardless of the pros or cons of intersectionality as a framework for analysis, proves to me that you have NO idea what you are talking about. Brutal.
@JVBLOUIN
@JVBLOUIN Ай бұрын
is fonctionaly antisemitic.. you did not listen
@martinzarathustra8604
@martinzarathustra8604 Ай бұрын
@JVBLOUIN How so? Please elucidate.
@JVBLOUIN
@JVBLOUIN Ай бұрын
@@martinzarathustra8604 im just writing what he said.
@Vivi16392
@Vivi16392 Ай бұрын
This people only see what they want,,, in the clip with Hannity , Hannity asks Trump about retribution, and Trump deliberately avoids answering to that main point,,,,,, to anyone capable of observing a behavior analytically, that suggests that he is interested in retribution.
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
Oh and by the way Noam - just because your wife had no issue with the racist Puerto Rican stuff apparently many people did - see Aubrey Plaza’s statement.
@xDonJuanx
@xDonJuanx Ай бұрын
I lost respect for Coleman in 2020. Voting for Biden was fine, but the rationale he gave was lackluster.
@philbobstreehouse4900
@philbobstreehouse4900 Ай бұрын
and now he's not even voting.
@xDonJuanx
@xDonJuanx 29 күн бұрын
@@philbobstreehouse4900 I'm fine with that. I don't always vote.
@doggdominom.d.8445
@doggdominom.d.8445 Ай бұрын
who would watch this tds trash lmao
@PJM273
@PJM273 Ай бұрын
You, evidently... for one.
@doggdominom.d.8445
@doggdominom.d.8445 Ай бұрын
@@PJM273 nope
@jorgemartinez42069
@jorgemartinez42069 Ай бұрын
​@@doggdominom.d.8445Are your parents cousins or did your mom have a drinking problem while you were in utero?
@dickgoblin
@dickgoblin Ай бұрын
@@doggdominom.d.8445@doggdominom.d.8445 TDS= Please stop talking about his bad qualities. I have no way to defend him. Except cry and call TDS
@HowManyToasters
@HowManyToasters Ай бұрын
How do you know its "tds trash" if you didn't watch it? You maga types love being completely uninformed dont you
@bryankinney1
@bryankinney1 Ай бұрын
This was an interesting discussion between Coleman and Norman. The other 2 contributed virtually nothing.
@davidfoarde558
@davidfoarde558 Ай бұрын
I’m glad they loomed up the dictator on day one…now do “fine people”, Bloodbath, this Liz Cheney one….I swear to god it’s insane when you start realizing all the main things you know about Trump being bad were completely blown up by the media. Now, it doesn’t mean he’s some perfect guy, far from it but you try to tell people and they just don’t believe you because it’s so overwhelming the amount of lies. And everyone has already built their opinion of him partially off of thinking he did all that stuff. Again, watch him talk he does say brash offensive things but so much of the big stuff that they STILL bring up was total crap. It’s so infuriating the old media deserves to have their credibility dropped down an elevator shaft
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