COLIN DUFFY controversy IFSC Meiringen 2022

Here is the polemic boulder problem in the IFSC Word Cup Meiringen 2022, where COLIN DUFFY did the top of the third boulder not one but tree times because an invalid start.

[@andrewadams530]

I think the most controversial thing for me is after his second top, while the judges were deciding if they were going to count the try they didn't stop the clock or ANYTHING. So They just wasted a bunch of his time then forced him to attempt again without giving him time back. He literally couldn't do anything with that time because he thought he topped. That's pretty scuffed imo

[@harleyb7880]

The judges are dodgy

[@bits_for_bytes]

That also drained him from the last Boulder. He had to complete this one 3 times everybody else only had to do it once

[@andrewadams530]

@@bits_for_bytes Yea this is def an issue. But what I was trying to point out is that if they truly believe that he was having a false start then this isn't really their issue you know. But stealing his time to talk about it, that is for SURE their issue.

[@jaegybomb]

Judges should just have to make a ruling on the spot, this is obviously ridiculous and unfair. Did he top the 4th?

[@gaimcap]

@@jaegybomb it was a long while ago, but iirc the 4th was a power intensive dyno. He did not top and after his first explosive run, was pretty much gassed. At they very least, I clearly remember thinking it was too bad they made him top the 3rd three times.

[@danielwisell3836]

This could easily be considered bias or sabotage. He OKd it with them right before and after the start, and still got told to do the entire boulder again.

[@FADE2maWAY]

TWICE

[@trixter21992251]

well, the rules maybe should be changed then. Right now, the judges can nullify a top in hindsight if there's an appeal from another coach. OK'ing it in the moment doesn't make you immune to appeals. But while no rules were broken, the judges should've rolled the clock back, and also they should deliberate faster.

[@John-lr3ix]

@@trixter21992251 it‘s still scuffed since he has to expend the energy for multiple goes. Without the ok he would not have continued

[@alluAA1]

Why is the timer running if the judges cant decide what is valid?

[@tutmondigo]

If the judges are going to invalidate the start they need to do so before he finishes climbing the problem. Maybe they get some leeway the first time, but the second? What a joke. I hope these judges are asked to not come back.

[@MrChaluliss]

Agreed. That is just too punishing to the climber. Often they will be climbing many more times in the day as a part of the competition and its absurd to force them to be so wasteful just to get a fair chance.

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

Gotta make sure the wire transfer clears before they make him go back out.

[@10freekie2]

I don’t agree. The third time was definitely different as he controlled holding the position. I understand the rules ala “let me see you can hold this position and don’t fall off before going on. Just like you have to control the top.

[@alyssaacchione]

@@hypothalapotamus5293this… it’s definitely not common knowledge that it costs money to make an appeal… it’s not cheap

[@TheAlbinoskunk]

If they had an issue with the way he started the boulder (and his first 2 attempts were iffy) then they should have communicated that to him before he continued and wasted time and energy. He managed to get the top in the end which was amazing but imagine if he timed out because the judges were deciding whether his attempt was valid with the clock still running

[@bravozero6]

He literally looked back for approval too super weird

[@bobbobbert1685]

it gives him the ability to learn the rest.

[@inyostudio]

i think initially the judges thought it was ok, but it was prob appealed by another country's coach. but agree that the judges really should know what the proper controlled start should be.

[@kongolandwalker]

I have participated In a local bouldering competition and there was a clear rule the sportsman is not allowed to consult with judges while not on the ground. If Cup has the same rule, then he would have to "spend time and energy" anyway up to the top before jumping down and being able to hear the attempt was scuff.

[@Love-pg8oi]

Also the dyno is super dangerous that’s why the judge doesn’t want to say anything to stop him

[@AR-mm6so]

The judges look silly. Imagine finishing out a race and then being asked to rerun it because the judges weren't paying attention at the start.

[@JTakasa]

Twice.

[@AllegraClimbingPsychologist]

It's not being inattentive, is that the rules required the start to be "in control", meaning that he couldn't just slap the starting hold. That is why he had to stop at the start move. For me this element of control doesn't really matter at the start if you have all points of contact but I guess it's the complementary of the "control" rule for zones and endings. The judges' fault was not communicating with the climber and stop him while he was climbing.

[@TurkishKS]

@@AllegraClimbingPsychologist You just said "not being inattentive," and then proceeded to describe how they were being inattentive.

[@DarkJenko]

@@AllegraClimbingPsychologist I agree and I will add that this felt crazy and unfair cause a lot of climbers just slap with their feet and it’s completely ok for the judges even thought it’s not “on control”

[@greaseman4174]

ehh maybe like a lap of a race

[@stephantom8237]

For some reason I’ve seen poor Collin be made to redo boulders more than any other competitor and amazingly he always succeeds anyway.

[@incorect8528]

Americans tend to be the minority in the world tournaments, foreign judges def biased af and scheming

[@wolfaye739]

glad i’m not the only person that noticed that collin is forced to redo a lot of boulders

[@hecatommyriagon655]

Maybe he should stop the behavior that makes false starts then? I have a friend who is constantly false starting and I've stopped telling him now, since he would always be nagging about it, just like Colin here. It's weird that he doesn't learn when constantly being told the same thing, isn't it?

[@ninjaman7775]

​@@hecatommyriagon655 At 1:59 you can hear him asking the judges "Is that a valid start?" and they gave him the go ahead. Colin is clearly trying his hardest to follow the rules here

[@jrose152]

@@ninjaman7775 The start is valid, the issue is it was not established. That being said, judges handled this very poorly in my opinion.

[@crawfoooooord7227]

1:59 “is that a valid start” I mean he even asked if it was ok

[@TheDangerRoom1776]

The judges were so amazed by what he did, they wanted to see him do it two more times.

[@eSKAone-]

No I have to agree, only the last attempt was clean. But the judge should have called it way earlier.

[@yannickokpara4861]

After reviewing it, I've gotta question the judges on both instances. There is clear, prolonged touch, so unless this is an instance of establishing a start meaning all starting points must contribute sufficiently to supporting the position, then I don't see how this distinguishes itself from f.x securing a zone or top with the fingertips.

[@MatheoRamet-mc3qb]

It's not even having a sufficiently stable position at the start, because most of the climbers just did a light tap on the left foot to begin ascension. Bad review from the judges and spectacular performance from colin

[@shurikend]

It's to avoid the use of momentum from the ground.

[@yannickokpara4861]

@@shurikend Don't they always use momentum on dynamic/running starts, though? Unless someone finds a different beta of course.

[@Triggerboy78]

@@MatheoRamet-mc3qb I need to look it up, but as far as I recall you have to have stable position with your hands and you are allowed to tap the feet as long as all 4 limbs touch at the same time. But you need to establish a stable position with the hands. EDIT: just found it and you need a controlled and stable position for hands AND feet, the rules state: "A competitor ’s start will be judged: “Correct” where the competitor achieves a stable Controlled position with both hands and both feet on the Starting Holds without Controlling or Using any other Artificial Holds or Structures." So i guess in the past they didnt judge too hard on the stable position of the feet...

[@richie364]

@@Triggerboy78 Left foot on hold, right foot on large boulder, both hands on same boulder. Where is the problem?

[@jackolsson9450]

Judges made him do a power endurance workout mid comp

[@acct5910]

I’ve seen this kid get forced to restart like this in multiple competitions.

[@T-Rex-Index]

What I really don't understand here is why Collin's start was appealed the first two times, but Yoshiyuki Ogata's start (where he got the zone) wasn't. Just rewatched Yoshiyuki's go and they are both on the edge of 'no stable position but using momentum'

[@johnwig285]

Because of appeal. If Yoshiyukis run was appealed, the judges would've watched the slowmo replay. Watching it in real time is hard compared to watching in slow mo replay

[@incorect8528]

Because collin is american and they hate americans winning at there game

[@kaerajpetera]

Didn't know this was a sport this dude is a beast and I'm a new fan to this

[@lostsupertramp]

its called bouldering if you want to learn more about this

[@kaerajpetera]

@@lostsupertramp thank you

[@CLANK...]

Youve never seen bouldering before?! Get yourself to your nearest climbing gym asap 😆

[@amazonhippie7826]

Bouldering is the only sport I watch.

[@kaerajpetera]

@@CLANK... mate I live in Alice Springs the middle of Australia there is nothing here

[@rock_your_boat]

The most ridiculous shit I've seen on the WC. Colin is a beast though, didn't crumble under pressure 💪

[@greyguy.960]

The issue seems to be letting him carry on , timer and not explaining the issue clearly . Judges are to blame . To let him waste energy and run out the clock is unusual.

[@hecatommyriagon655]

A climber in the final on this level knows the rules, he just chose not to abide by them, because he couldn't figure out how to do the start.

[@hecatommyriagon655]

@@PerigeeParrot Stable, in this context is stationary. That isn't much of a judgment call. He fucked up. It's actually really bad to try to put that on the judges. He should be honest to himself AND the rest, to admit he didn't do it correctly, instead of acting like a child. Typical American though, to blame everyone else.

[@teacherdoug1797]

@@hecatommyriagon655 Found one of the judges! Seriously though, this problem can be avoided if you simply have easier starting positions. Then there's less to judge. I guess that's the fault of the routemakers, but judges should make the judgement at the time of the event. Coaches shouldn't be able to appeal another climber's route after the fact. This isn't football.

[@hecatommyriagon655]

@@teacherdoug1797 Make easier starting positions, because one bad climber can't make it? Do you even hear yourself? They make it hard, to filter the best of the best, holding a start position is part of that process. It's the climbers fault, for not being a balanced and skilled climber.

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

@@hecatommyriagon655 What are you, his arch-fucking-nemesis, mate?

[@Yakushii]

This made me more fan of Collin than ever before. The judges couldn't make a decision to save their own lives, and they let Collin's time run while they fucked around.

[@Dajones9191]

Judges had one job and messed it up badly. If it were my call, I wouldn't have them back ever again. This is too high level to be pulling that stuff.

[@procerator]

I hate when routesetters make starting the boulder incredibly awkward and hard.

[@sammonsalve5657]

I was a setter for 10 years. I truly hate first move cruxes. And people always wanted to set them. Sigh.

[@Pshady]

Lazy? Must be easier to create a Cruz while not up a ladder

[@sammonsalve5657]

@@Pshady possibly, doesn't make too much of a difference though, unless you have a 20ft+ tall boulder wall, which are amazing.

[@peterbezak5204]

Yeah, especially in a competition, cause it's kind of boring to watch the competitors struggle to even get on the boulder for 4 minutes.

[@bango182]

@@Pshady its also easier because you tell the climber where all their limbs have to go, so you can try to force a position more.

[@vaenii5056]

Must be some of the angriest climbing I have ever seen. 😄

[@xXGamerXx71]

Dont know much about the sport, but i love his energy at the end.

[@ryangoesoutside]

Good effort from Duffy. Terrible showing from the judges, either call it right away or let it happen, not both. Lame route setting to have a difficult "pose" just to get off the ground in a competition, especially if the judges don't even know how it's supposed to go. Just set a hard problem, not a crux start.

[@discgolfkosmo]

It’s a psychological problem, not just physical. The tough start makes the whole route more challenging and rewarding.

[@teacherdoug1797]

@@discgolfkosmo This is one of those situations where people within the sport can't understand how dumb something is. Listen, the goal should be to REDUCE THE NEED FOR JUDGES. Falling off the wall is an objective thing, and no judgement is needed. Therefore, you will have less controversy if falling off the wall is the only way to fail.

[@willster2967]

@@teacherdoug1797 That's actually the best way to describe it I've seen. It's not just that the crux being the start is boring and lame to watch it's also that invites annoying bs like what's in this video. In a lot of ways that makes it the fault of routesetters and their weird obsession with crux starts which are just not fun to watch.

[@steveroonie37]

I'm glad he still kicked this boulders ass. I would have been so upset at this sport for allowing him to lose when he clearly was doing it right. The judges should be held accountable and replaced by someone better

[@frittierteGuave]

Never thought I could be recommended a random video about a topic what I barely know and a controversy I absolutely don't understand and find a comment section of die hard fans with such dedication that there is no room for jokes no room for outpointing that this was an absolutely insane climb

[@eSKAone-]

I have to agree, only the last attempt was clean. But the judge should have called it way earlier.

[@zchaos101]

That was just amazing to witness. Great job guy!!! You were Awesome. I wasn't really interested in climbing until i saw this. Now i wish i was younger so i could try this in highschool.

[@MrNickelbacker]

I'm also only starting just now with 28. But at least it's never too late to have a blast at what you're doing 😎

[@alexgoncalves7512]

LOL they just trolled him so hard and he just sent it not as dynamic what a man amazing .

[@coltonthedrummer]

Fire those judges. Absolutely ridiculous. If they called it wrong, that’s on them, not the climber.

[@Bradaclsym]

Poor judging. Collin is goated for smashing this Boulder X3.

[@richardbently7236]

Sometimes in judgement calls or certain judges you have to be VERY clearly not breaking the rule for it not to be called. Not saying its right just a mindset some judges have, clear or not at at all.

[@xnator26]

He is a legend

[@egroegartfart]

I don't understand why the second one didn't count. Seems kind of ridiculous to me.

[@conradsherod]

the actions of a champ. Great climbing

[@highestkiller4627]

what did he do on run 3 that he didn't do twice before?

[@gjermundnorumbugge7373]

He was stable on the start for longer, which made it clear he did not use momentum from the floor

[@warptens5652]

he was stable

[@gjermundnorumbugge7373]

@@warptens5652 I'm just answering the question. That is the reason...

[@brekkoh]

nothing

[@jtc2445]

@@gjermundnorumbugge7373 He was answering the question too. I don't think his comment was a rebuttal to your's.

[@Kiwi00037]

Danm, never before have I seen such a display of incompetence from judges.

[@bigutubefan2738]

How did the setter think it should be done without jumping off the floor? From sitting?

[@Firedog-jk2ef]

Well what they presumably meant for them to do was probably spend some time stabilizing yourself then you jump, which neither Colin nor Yoshiyuki decided to go with. Of course what he did the first two times should have been allowed or the judge should have said something about it way earlier

[@hecatommyriagon655]

No? Using core and balance to actually stabalize, before jumping. Everyone knows this, it's just Colin being a crybaby because he couldn't establish on the start holds.

[@bigutubefan2738]

I don't know what he's said, but comp climbers can hardly complain about problems being eliminate, or having stupid rules... ...when there's literally a massive rule book full of them.

[@Firedog-jk2ef]

@@hecatommyriagon655 He was clearly stabilized on the second and third climbs and the first could be debatable

[@JV-df9em]

Brand new and my first video I’ve ever watched - is it normal for runs to be completed before the judges flag or opposing team appeals? Meaning, this poor dude expels all his energy for naught

[@mrmonsterhunter808]

I know this is an old comment but No this was awful judging, these judges should never be allowed to observe an international comp again. Usually they yell you off the wall within seconds of a false start.

[@osmardomingos7465]

I'm not familiar with this sport. What was the matter? That he took a first impulse from the floor? I could see it clearly at his first try but in the second no

[@CGagnon5]

Awful problem and officiating. Everyone besides Collin should be embarrassed

[@Tupley]

Putting a crux on a first move is such an un-innovative cop out for route setting, especially in settings like this where the route is clearly supposed to be short and rigorous.

[@808Xian]

I need explanation please.. why did this athlete have to do it 3 times? What was controversial about it?

[@ryancooper3629]

@michenerspace7358 to add a little bit of extra context, this is only usually the how it works. Sometimes a setter will design a start to be dynamic. This is usually communicated to climbers beforehand in a competition environment but often involves something like a running start followed by a jump. Thus, the climber can't always just presume if a climb is static and dynamic start which is why Duffy clearly asked the judges to clarify before continuing. At that point they should have clearly told him that it was a static start but they must not have which is where the controversy lies.

[@maagiapall]

@Michener Space layman's*

[@Mrperson662]

Obviously there was some frustrating miscommunication but he did cheese it the first few attempts. He very obviously was using some momentum on every attempt before his final send.

[@richie364]

I'd give you that on the first instance if i'm being EXTREMELY generous. His initial momentum on both instances is clearly halted when he stands his foot on the first boulder, his shoulders are still and not moving before leaping to the second hold. On the first instance one judge isnt paying attention, on the second instance there is no excuse. EDIT: Watch on 0.25 or 0.5 and its much easier to see his momentum stop.

[@haydenmalley1916]

@@richie364 good catch! The first one he was quicker than the second and third attempts, but you can still clearly see him settle into the position of the holds before jumping to the next one. And for the second attempt he came to a full stop that was much more pronounced than the first attempt. The third attempt should have never happened.

[@carlosdumbratzen6332]

@@haydenmalley1916 especialy as they could have stopped him before he tops out (when repeating the top the second time). Like the dude has to do another boulder and they let him do the same problem three times...

[@PineConeNW]

I completely disagree

[@phoenix9531]

Agree with OP

[@pahom2]

The real controversy here is that judges are still judging and not retired to work as a night watchman. The only job their skills would fit.

[@achydragon6204]

Great job, Colin.

[@maxbowen6482]

I hate to say it but that final attempt is how he should have done it first time round. Saying that the judges clearly weren’t communicating their opinions clearly enough

[@ryanrutledge4946]

In my irrelevant opinion, in his first two tops he definitely didn't establish the start. I would have to guess Colin himself knows that. Strong boulderers know what it means to establish control in the start position. In his third send go, the one that counted, it was clear he actually established.

[@ryancooper3629]

This is correct but sometimes boulders are designed to be a dynamic start which is why I imagine he asked the judges if his strategy was ok. I'd argue the controversy here isn't how he started but rather that he confirmed that it was ok with the judges, proceeded to do it, and then was told it was wrong... twice. All the judges had to do was clearly state: "no, you must control the start" and there would have been no controversy and colin wouldn't have wasted half his time attempting a start he thought was fine because he had cleared it with the judges beforehand.

[@jrtodd-br4zc]

^This What the judges did in approving the start, letting him do it, then telling him no, after wasting many precious seconds getting their heads out of their asses, is objectively indefensible.

[@hecatommyriagon655]

@@ryancooper3629 A boulderer on his level, just like any gymrat with any level of experience, knows that you have to establish the start. The rules are very clear on this.

[@ryancooper3629]

@@hecatommyriagon655 This is incorrect. Not all boulders require establishing a start. This is why he asked. If he had just assumed and then gotten mad, that would have been wrong but he took time to ASK FOR CLARIFICATION. You feel it is clear, but obviously he didn't and he is much more experienced at competitive bouldering than either of us. That said, for what it is worth. I have been climbing for 25 years and had a coach for a while so I'd like to think I can speak with some authority on the subject.

[@hecatommyriagon655]

@@ryancooper3629 It's clearly taped, so there was no reason to ask.

[@bobby_pilgrim4528]

why now?

[@MrStcrook69]

I don't know anything about Rock climbing or bouldering..but they made that guy climb the wall multiple times from what I saw.

[@LexFridmanShort]

very impressive

[@brendandor]

Agree with the judges, it wasn't a static start, bad judging by not giving him fast feedback. But he wasn't stationary on the start before, end of the day.

[@cainification]

I love the part where I know what is happening

[@egoinjury]

In the lead final of the Paris Olympics just now he got repeatedly short roped by his belayer, if not for that he most likely would have been on the podium

[@kwg5044]

Resiliance and domination despite their attempts to screw him

[@alexwillis7980]

I know fuck all about competition bouldering, but the judges seem to be heaving loads of bullshit onto this poor kid

[@maxdonovan2369]

This is actually a classic power endurance drill called a "4x4" - too bad Colin didn't have the gas to finish out the 4th go.

[@jacobholcomb4904]

This is as much on the Routesetters as it is the judges. Don’t set a Boulder in a comp where competitors spend half the time just trying to get in position to be able to start the Boulder. It’s not enjoyable for anyone (watching or climbing). Make the start relatively easy to get established on and then create separation in the field of competitors after that.

[@umlax45]

100% used momentum at the start

[@10freekie2]

The first two times, yes. The third was good.

[@smicksmookety]

I still don’t think he did it. Go again

[@M.Montgomery]

Looks like someone placed some bets on this one. The judges should be investigated by the police.

[@10freekie2]

Bullshit. You should be able to see the difference between 1,2 and 3.

[@jawaring4367]

Fire those judges. no question

[@aturboford1]

Can we just stop setting 1st move cruxes in comps? It’s in no way entertaining to watch climbers struggle to establish on some contrived start holds.

[@Sircaulkgobbler]

To me first try not in control but second time he was on long enough in my opinion and the third he just sat there as a middle finger cause well obviously super annoyed

[@10freekie2]

He fell off soooooo many times. It wasn’t easy for him at all. You could tell he had trouble controlling the start hold position.

[@KyleHong]

It’s absolutely clear that those judges are either incompetent or corrupt. Either way it doesn’t matter because they need to be replaced with someone who is both competent and ethical. Pretty embarrassing really.

[@burneden]

scold me if you want, but theyre human, they make mistakes. Hopefully they learn from this error moving forward.

[@KyleHong]

@@burneden Yes, we are all human and humans do make mistakes. But that’s precisely why we have “multiple” judges to avoid scenarios like this. But what makes this ridiculous is the fact that they all screwed up more than once. Sorry, that’s not acceptable. That level of incompetence is just not acceptable.

[@kkronic6709]

I'm pretty sure his first and second runs were perfectly fine they just wanted a different winner

[@Triggerboy78]

No they were not. You need to establish a stable and controlled position with hands and feet. In the first 2 it wasnt stable and wasnt controlled. But its a shame that they didnt call it immediately and wasted his energy.

[@roybrooks2722]

@@Triggerboy78 even though I agree with your point at the start. With the judges not calling it on the second run, when he looked over for confirmation. The judges still did nothing.. that says a lot about his runs. Thoughts?

[@Triggerboy78]

@@roybrooks2722 Absolutely. In my opinion it is very obvious that it's not a regular start and should be called immediately without wasting Colins energy and time.

[@groyperfuhr4871]

they probably didn't want to do any actual judge work so they decided everyone's place before it began.

[@PimpMacSlickBac]

Just wait for the Jomboy breakdown.

[@teacherdoug1797]

I'd like to see that!

[@devilmaker11]

If they can't make you stop succeeding, they just make you tire out.

[@xPandaaaah]

These judges are BAD. Not stopping the clock, not stopping his climb right after the "wrong" start. What a joke.

[@MisterNorthernCanuck]

Ultimate boss move

[@kylenmaple4668]

The other competitors coaches SHOULD NOT be able to appeal. That is the dumbest thing ever, doesn’t exist in any other sport. Referees and Judges exist for a reason

[@noeonoohno4219]

You can throw a challenge in football and ice hockey, and tennis... Loads of sports haha

[@madametrafficjam8347]

There are a LOT of sports where you can do that. Especially individual ones, and frankly, it should be done if there is any question about the results at all. It happens in jumping competitions and throwing competitions all the time.

[@بدربدر-ط6ق]

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[@Thizzael]

The parking lot at this place is probably full of Subaru crosstreks.

[@zore8401]

I’ve climbed with Colin Duffy before lol, he’s sick

[@povang]

WTF is this overcomplicated judging system?

[@김명진-x7b]

Good!!!!!

[@strongbongus]

love me a nice gimmicky start.

[@johnwig285]

Look at all the experts here who suddenly know how the judging process works. If the judges had repeatedly not count his run right from the beginning, y'all would be coming up with a different narrative. Watching the run in real time vs a slowmo replay due to appeal from competitors, obviously you will catch more details in the replay. Aint rocket science.

[@prysmatic]

Unprofessional judges that’s for sure 🌚

[@mikeo9863]

See Colin's performance, think what a great sport. See the Judges performance, think what a garbage sport.

[@rollingrock5143]

Uh... Why isn't it just.. here's the wall, here's a clock, get to the top. I don't get it .

[@laxrulz7]

The speed climbing competition is over there, sir --->

[@themack9933]

My kid climbs on shit like this at free play gyms is this supposed to be a sport?

[@Electric_Feelz]

All attending judges should be put in a 90% tax bracket [90% of all income] for the rest of their life, as well as restricted to only shopping on Tuesdays at 5pm (pretty busy).

[@R0bsterb0Y]

I have been noticing for some time now (3-4 seasons) that there have been numerous, very controversial decisions against "western" athletes. An advantage making for eastern European or Asian participants is recognizable over and over again.

[@jasonvoorhees5640]

cope and seethe karen lmao

[@vit4mint685]

worse adjudication than for the 2020 election.

[@adamfrederick3006]

CHAD Duffy

[@brekkoh]

miserable adjudicating, unless this is their first day on the job, they should be relieved of their duties. basically took a the chance of a win away from collin on a technicality.

[@lolingquietly]

Garbage judging by already bad judges. GET EM OUTTA HERE!

[@mikeholmanlovesyou]

imagine this many people giving a shit about this?

[@Kyrelel]

I see nothing controversial here

[@biggunsnu]

are these russian figure skating judges?

[@thomasdavis3933]

Lol people still in masks

[@TheeBuddylee]

This was horse pucky

[@doughobbs7706]

judges and other coaches who appealed this need firing

[@CLANK...]

Nah, that was a good appeal. He wasnt stable either time. The issue is how long the judges took each time to flag it and how poorly they communicated with him

[@doughobbs7706]

@@CLANK..."the issue is how long....." exactly hence why they shouldn't be there, looked at them more than once in his second attempt and they didn't void his go then, they shouldn't have been able/allowed to override their decision from then.

[@thevoicestoldmetoagain4627]

I know nothing about this sport but i think the first 2 runs were sketchy. But the 3rd was super clean. Edit: After review, id give the first run a definite no. Needed to be re-ran. Second run might be fine. But it depends on the judging. If others did it like that and were fine then id say the 2nd attempt was fine, if strict judging, id say no. The calls to repeat were slow and shouldve been said sooner but the conclusion is proper. First 2 runs needs to be redone. 3rd was beautiful.

[@XFactorIntroMaker]

You went from knowing nothing to an expert very quickly lol 😜

[@yelir4]

LOL

[@dontwastemytime277]

I genuinely don't understand the hype of this sport. It looks utterly pointless and stupid imho.

[@mzubuki]

James 3:16 "For where envying and strife is there is confusion and every kind of evil work ." All sins require a little bit of uncaring selfishness to accomplish. Matthew 4:17 "For at about that time Jesus began to preach, repent the Kingdom of heaven is at hand." Repent: to change your mind, to change your ways to believe in Jesus and what he said. Note: When someone ask for forgiveness at each point in the past you did something wrong you wish you had done the right thing. Love Jesus, build hope faith and trust on his word. God wanted to know who thought being a good person is important.

[@ArbitraryLifestyle]

I'm not even sure that I like climbing becoming so popular in the past five or six years, but I certainly don't like that it's become this public competition sport.

[@latumbleuse1430]

Why not ?

[@jasonvoorhees5640]

@@latumbleuse1430 he is a hipster. he will now be forced to move to another hobby lmao

[@davidbrook9686]

Would love to see those judges meet an accidental mistake

[@inibikini]

those judges better get fired or retired, handled this awfully

[@SpitefulAZ]

I was be so pissed!!!!! Bad judges.

[@jacksoukup5442]

Maybe don't set such an idiotic problem?

[@BlastinRope]

This is a v4 at my gym

[@Mazzphysics]

@@BlastinRope V4? Wow, that's really high. It would be a V2 max at my gym.