Celtics vs. Lakers debate, Caitlin Clark is the best player for business in WNBA history | THE HERD

After the Boston Celtics won their 18th NBA Finals title, Magic Johnson went viral on X/Twitter, saying quote: "I hate that the Celtics officially have more championships than us now." Colin Cowherd weighs in the Celtics-Los Angeles Lakers debate, explaining what separates Boston aside from one title over the purple and gold. Sportico published the recent WNBA team valuations and the Indiana Fever are ranked the sixth most valuable franchise at $90 million. Colin explains how this demonstrates Caitlin Clark is "the greatest player for business in the history of the WNBA."
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[@StevenEvens7125]

What's the point of saying 6'8 and a _half?_

[@adamkarain4453]

Colin went from dissing the celtics to calling them a dynasty in 24 hours

[@josuemagana7242]

Colin COWARD. never stands by anything he says.

[@TrendSettaRico]

Bruh literally act like his takes aren't recorded and watched by thousands of people a day 😂😂😂😂🤦🏾

[@tjayd1225]

That’s gotta be a record time pivot

[@jlvaviation9140]

😂 true

[@sjsupa]

Caitlin Clark is "the greatest player for business in the history of the WNBA." Then WNBA should do everything it can to protect her.

[@drew0513]

Lame.

[@maxxgold1]

Caitlin Clark is good enough to be on the Olympic team. Look at her rookie numbers and compare the to Diana Tuarasi’s rookie and current numbers. Caitlin is on pace to break every rookie record.

[@futfem7rPrado]

This just proves that he doesn't understand anything about basketball.

[@1dognight166]

Colin is right about the Caitlin Clark effect. I remember before there plenty of empty seats at Fever games . Now I heard a guy recently say how tough it is to get a ticket to get In the arena .

[@BabySpit]

I went to the fever sparks game the staples nose bleeds were packed. 😮😮😮

[@yungtj100]

He said “geographically isolated” bro Boston is a 2 hr flight to Atlanta and a 3 hr drive to NYC. Colin is so dramatic 😂

[@awakenedtarot7306]

I live in DC and Atlanta is a 2 hr flight from ME lol. What futuristic plane you flying in bro lol

[@yungtj100]

@@awakenedtarot7306 I mean it’s 2 hrs and some change. Tack on another 30 mins. I live in bean and I’ve made that flight a lot. Either way it’s under 3 hrs

[@grichkatayou7558]

@@yungtj100 if you're going to try and overblow what he said give the real times (because you know what he meant)... BOS - NYC is 4hrs ... or a little more

[@yungtj100]

@@grichkatayou7558 negative. I live in Boston…you hit the Bronx in 3 hrs breh lol

[@jalennelson6599]

@@yungtj100Closer to 4 hours+ I’m from Connecticut, Bronx and Boston is like 2 hours the same distance for me.

[@benkizer9509]

Isolated??? Small town??? Boston??? Take a vacation, Colin.

[@youngwashrag]

we not counting Minneapolis but we counting rings from when there were separate water fountains? Yeah aight

[@winstonsyme5899]

And a lot less crime. What happened?

[@etheu9sby292]

Well that would still discount some of the Lakers wins then.

[@hassansaleh4649]

@@etheu9sby292even if you do, lakers have 11 rings since 1980. Celtics have 2 since ‘86

[@KyleJBales]

@@winstonsyme5899 130 million more people

[@winstonsyme5899]

@@KyleJBales Crime is not the quantity of the people, it is the quality. Table 43 FBI’s UCR.

[@jmoney6043]

Colin is absolutely horrible at describing the Lakers history. Get this guy out of here. Ridiculous

[@dannycooper1245]

Don’t think on it. This is the same guy that had gone back and forth, trying to discredit both the Lakers and the Celtics, as well as Jordan’s Bulls. He has a very strange complex.

[@jmoney6043]

@@dannycooper1245 I think he's getting too old

[@smittyj383]

No he was just honest

[@amc1140]

Didn't mention all the Celtics titles are pre-merger. Lakers have way more titles in the modern NBA

[@arizonaFIREent]

​@@amc1140yea against average teams 3 out of their 17 titles are against the celtics while 9/18 celtics titles are against the lakers.... Celtics 9-3 vs la in the finals, lakers also 1-2 vs Detroit and 1-2 vs NY in the finals... 18-5 is better than 17-15.. Lakers had 9 more chances and failed... 5 LA rings were in Minnesota pre-merger as well...

[@willbutlar1093]

The stuff Boston is “mostly famous for in the 1700-1800s” is the 11 championships that Bill won

[@georgiorussell8705]

That's not how it works, Colin. It's the same franchise.

[@TheCancerkilla]

Exactly.

[@timmytv7554]

Congrats to Las Vegas for winning Super Bowl 18.

[@georgiorussell8705]

@@timmytv7554 sports have different cultures. In soccer you could build a super team with 0 scrutiny, for example.

[@darrenroberts637]

@@georgiorussell8705 wrong..... Everything is business do some researcher

[@datsapaddlin]

They literally have the same name and Mikan use to attend the Lakers games in support. He never saw them as a different team. What is he talking about 😂

[@DNYCDAGREAT]

Clark is the best thing that happened to Wnba ratings and everything going up...keep this woman in all the feuds and storylines..she is what's best for business

[@amc1140]

2 titles in 40 years, let's relax

[@tedunseth3966]

It's funny when someine says that. It's 5 titles in 45 years.

[@ddOFutur3]

@@tedunseth3966 Lakers have how many since 79? 11? not even close

[@tedunseth3966]

@@ddOFutur3 History iis History. These are far and away the top 2 teams in history. Numbers are what they are. It doesn't matter when you won them. Boston leads 9-3 H2H all time in the FINALS. This debate is close. Boston with more overall wins and titles. Lakers with more Finals trips. The gap for the number 3 is so large it's craxy.

[@conQU3SO]

Glad I can say so far I’ve seen the Lakers win more then the Celtics in my lifetime up to this point. But still not happy the Celtics have 18 and we have 17. 🤬

[@amc1140]

@@conQU3SO pre-merger titles are not the same

[@johnmoosey8173]

Who cares?.... They are both historic franchises with historic players....And let's not forget 2 things.....in the 80s the CS contended with the Sixers....Pistons and Bulls....The Lakers walked through the West....in addition The Lenny Bias death hurt that team for a decade.....I'm not biased....just saying

[@Doknot-tb9ey]

Exactly, at the end of the day, they have more championships than any of the other teams.

[@luisruiz2011]

Not counting the Lakers first 5 championships is ridiculous considering its the same franchise.. its another thing if LA is claiming but the franchise does have 17 titles

[@Doknot-tb9ey]

Its stupid.

[@Sinklebarn]

Not counting the teams chips because they changed cities? Imagine if things actually worked like that

[@Sinklebarn]

I did like the wnba business take tho

[@jonfry7773]

It does work like that. Cleveland doesn't count Baltimores Superbowls as their own!

[@Phrazee420]

So do we count the 79 championship for OKC?

[@LeviDavidSchaffer]

You mean Baltimore don't count Clevelands titles

[@datsapaddlin]

@@jonfry7773 they literally changed their name…The Rams and Raiders count all their championships they won even though they been in different cities

[@alexandermonday3017]

The Lakers , Bulls, and Spurs, are the best teams since The Merger in 1976. Celtics won there games when no one was watching and their was no free agency.

[@tedunseth3966]

I think the 80's Celtics and 80's Lakers are the best 2 teams of all time. Boston was 1st place in the East for almost the whole decade. W/out LA they would've won at least 5 titles in the 80's. Fast forward today and they have been an elite franchise since 08. The Celtics are #2 in total wins since the merger. I still have the Celtics as the #2 team of ALL TIME since the Merger. We can't forget history. Celtics are still the Kings of Basketball.

[@eddievangundy4510]

Not sure why you capitalize the merger. It was not that significant. Nothing like the AFL NFL.

[@Kyrogus]

Colin not counting Mikan’s championships but counting Bill’s 11 lmaooooo

[@DJ57522]

Bills were still in Boston

[@liberty4allplease]

Mikan played in Minneapolis. He's comparing LA to Boston.

[@aznsensation44]

he's not counting Mikan's because they weren't in LA they were in Minneapolis. But still, yeah the Lakers and NBA does count those as the Lakers championships because its the same franchise.

[@datsapaddlin]

@@DJ57522So? They was still called the Lakers. They just moved to a different city.

[@ricocheteraw90sthebestdecade]

This might be a dumb question..but what is a laker?

[@JAswoosh]

Bro Russell’s Celtics are way more dominating then George Mikan’s 5 title teams. Smh 🤦

[@keatonadams5228]

"I'm not going to count the Minneapolis titles (same franchise), I will however count, when there were 8 teams in the league"

[@ghostblack9209]

So the 5 in Minny don’t count for Lakers but apparently all the titles that were won when there were 8 teams and only a certain amount of black guys could play in the league count fully for Boston? ok colin.

[@FusionRider85]

Makes no sense to disregard the 5 championships the Lakers won in Minnesota…..

[@billymartin4363]

Not counting the lakers early rings, how about the 11 the Celtics won in 13 years before 1970? Those count?

[@smoothALOE]

Boston is an old city. Their history goes back a lot further than places like LA or Dallas or Denver. Boston was once the premiere northeast city, until NYC overtook it. A bit like Philly. This is what makes that city’s overall sports success all the more impressive. They shouldn’t have so many titles, yet they do.

[@BabySpit]

Why did they pay an Asian girl to be in their pocket

[@smoothALOE]

@@BabySpit what?

[@MarvSimons]

So we aren’t going to count the Lakers old rings but we’ll count the Celtics old rings 😂

[@henryfredette6735]

You forgot Jerry West there...and it is not to some degree, Jethro, Caitlin is the WNBA now.

[@tjayd1225]

Still waiting for fs1 and espn to acknowledge the wnba is scheduled to lose 50M this season even with the Caitlin Clark bump

[@KyleJBales]

He literally said they are subsidized. Did you miss that part?

[@phillipbarlow9387]

Colin is 100% correct, about everything he said about Caitlin Clark. When you look at the Fever's attendance -- it's around 17 thousand per game. That's pretty close to what the NBA's Kings, Jazz, and Trail Blazers average 😲 (Albeit, ticket prices are lower in the WNBA.) But don't lose sight of the fact that this past March, the Women's college basketball Final Four beat the Men's -- by several million viewers. That's never happened before, in the history of television or the history of college basketball. If USA Basketball were smart, they would put Caitlin Clark, Angel Reese, Paige Bueckers, Juju Watkins from USC, and Sarah Strong from UConn on the Paris Olympics women's team. But they're obviously NOT smart, and are going to let this golden opportunity slip away. It's a darn shame -- and the people who will be "hurt" by USA Basketball's cowardice, and NOT Clark, Reese, Watkins, Bueckers, or Strong. They are going to "get the bag," because they're all "high profile." The people who are going to be "hurt" by USA Basketball financially, are the rank=and=file players of the WNBA...who are largely women of color, and/or members of the LGBTQ+ community. It is THEIR hard work that has made the level of play what it is today -- and they will STILL have to spend the off-season freezing in Russia, if they ever hope to buy a home, or drive a decent car. Shame on USA Basketball, for it's cowardice and acting purely on self-interest -- rather than "growing the game." Because the U.S. would win the Gold Medal game by 20 points, regardless of whether Caitlin Clark and Angel Reese were on the team. What has been "lost," is NOT a chance at an Olympic Gold Medal...but a chance at a better life, for the women of color and the LGBTQ+ community, who make up the majority of the WNBA.

[@pugdova1138]

Caitlin Clark is an economy of her own and her popularity will be the catalyst for all of those amazing players in the WNBA to receive the salaries and stability they have been craving for 20+ years.

[@natureredux1957]

Explain how a certain group of folks going to just CC games translates to the salaries and stability that the rest of the WNBA players have been asking for. It will barely pay if at all for the added Charter Flights and or increased Security needs because of Clarks fanbase. A league can't base their Financial expenditures on One Player.

[@sandyc6816]

@@natureredux1957 there's a new TV contract coming up which based on the increases in sales of tickets, viewership, league app, merchandise, etc. should provide leverage to have a much larger contract. When you have teams moving to larger arenas, and those arenas selling out, forecasting revenue becomes more important.

[@pugdova1138]

@@natureredux1957 Two effects: 1) The regular season ratings between 2023 and 2024 have already increased by +200%. 2) If the Fever make the playoffs, and CC draws just 1/10th of what was drawn for her final three games in Iowa, those rating will be, again, +200% of the 2023 WNBA playoff season. While I agree that banking on a single player is certainly risky, the status quo without CC is a -$50m sink on the NBA. Any perenially struggling business would bank on this single player who could potentially draw 10m viewers to a deep Fever playoff run would be an unheard of leap vs the ~500k viewership last season.... The alternative is continuing to lose money. "A rising tide lifts all boats"

[@TheDisruptiveOne]

It is not just Caitlin. She is the biggest for sure. But NIL is creating bigger stars in college. And when Paige and juju come. Those teams will sell a lot more tickets too.

[@winstonsyme5899]

@@natureredux1957 Her team, that finished in last place a season ago, in a small market is 33% of the total attendance for the entire season so far. The more that watch her the greater the chance they root for other players and teams. The TV rights that are being negotiated right now are going to be so much greater than just one year ago.

[@zachg3069]

This is a horrible argument. If you want to throw out the 5 from Miken, then throw out the 11 with Russel. Since bird and magic, the total between the two is 11 vs 5. Not even close.

[@mikeh4818]

It's pretty simple. Los Angeles has celebrated 12 titles while Boston has celebrated 18 titles. I don't know what is confusing?

[@BabylonGateLA]

@@mikeh4818Celebrated championships when there was 8 teams and black people didn’t have rights?! You should feel embarrassed counting those rings 😂😂😂

[@datsapaddlin]

@@mikeh4818The Rams and Raiders literally count all their championships even though they have played for different cities as well. It’s about the name not city. You act like the Lakers was winning because of what city they was in 😂.

[@aznsensation44]

Not the same thing because Mikan played in the 50s and in a different city. But I agree Mikan's should count.

[@teejaye6226]

💯!!!!!

[@KyleJBales]

We gotta chill on the Celtics championship count... 11 came before 1970 lol

[@Donnydon1996]

If you don’t count Min Lakers championships then you can’t count Bill Russell’s 11

[@exfolios]

I predict that by the end of her career, Caitlin Clark will be mentioned in the same breath as Muhammad Ali, Pele, Michael Jordan, Billie Jean King, Wayne Gretzky, Arnold Palmer, Jesse Owens, and Jim Brown - athletes who transcended their sport and elevated it.

[@littleguyjoe22]

Lets make this easier for everyone nothing in the NBA before the moon landing counts.

[@killa3x]

Boston has 11 of the 18 with Russell in the old era. To me that's no diff than Minnesota Lakers.

[@etheu9sby292]

How the name did change and the city didn't change why because they only played 8 teams so did the LA Lakers at one point.

[@jmcadam177]

Yall just cooked let us have moved through our history yall wouldn't count em so ya.... nd bill won 3 as a coach of the c's learn ur history won 8 as a player, we didn't have to move city's to win 12 lmfao 😂

[@jmcadam177]

Also so as well then let's count the back to back chips the celtics won in ny in 1925-27 before coming to Boston foh we'd be at 20 w yall logic

[@KyleJBales]

@@jmcadam177 11 titles came before 1970. Since then its Lakers 12 Celtics 7.

[@jmcadam177]

@KyleJBales Also so as well then let's count the back to back chips the celtics won in ny in 1925-27 before coming to Boston foh we'd be at 20 w yall logic

[@slime-ey8je]

And Bill Russell played with 8 hofs what is he talking about they had “some” stars

[@bdanka50]

I get what Colin is saying about the Lakers leaving Minneapolis , even though they stayed the Lakers. What do we do about the Ravens and the browns? Does Cleveland count Baltimore's super bowls? What about the Colts and the Baltimore Ravens?

[@davidtwitchell3666]

Well, the Ravens don't count any stats from before they moved and changed their name, instead those stats are counted by the "new" Browns team, that being said I think the Indy Colts count all the stats from when they were in Baltimore, leaving it as confusing as it was before you asked

[@datsapaddlin]

I’m pretty sure every NFL team that kept the same name when their team moves takes all their accolades with them. The Browns changed their team name so that’s why they didn’t take the accolades with them. They pretty much renounced everything they did on their own accord.

[@GeniusatWork104]

Smh. Ridiculous!! The organization has 17 championship. If the Bulls move to South Carolina are we saying the Bulls have no rings in their history?

[@aznsensation44]

The reason why Colin isn't counting Mikan's is because it wasn't in LA it was in Minneapolis so I don't know why people here bringing up Bill Russell for comparison - Russell won his 11 all in Boston and not to mention played a decade later than Mikan did. But anyways I think those championships should be counted because it's the same franchise just a different city. Sometimes it's a different name. OKC counts the Sonics championships as theirs. 76ers count the Nationals championships as theirs. Kings count the Royals championship as theirs. Just because they changed cities doesn't invalidate their previous titles.

[@jalenjohnson1068]

It doesn’t matter u win for the franchise not city wtf is this logic that yall keep using

[@TheACM22]

Doesn't matter. If morons like you and Colin get to decide on arbitrary reasons to discredit the Lakers' accomplishments, we can do the same. As far as I'm concerned, Russell's plumber era titles don't count cause he played against nobodys

[@yellowbear521]

The lakers won 5 in Minnesota and 12 and one in season tournament in La, The lakers hang their banners won in Minnesota and hang Mikan’s jersey, I thought you were a journalist

[@iang7244]

It’s crazy how Bill Russell is the reason Boston has 11 of their 18 but they HATED that man back in the day 😂

[@stephenpencheff6625]

And your point is ridiculous always in our shadow

[@iang7244]

@@stephenpencheff6625 Bro what are you talking about 💀

[@eddievangundy4510]

I don't know if they hated him, but they didn't care about the basketball team. Fundamentally Boston was a hockey town. And then Red Sox.

[@iang7244]

@@eddievangundy4510 They called him racial slurs during games, broke into his house, defecated in his bed, need I go on? I do implore you to look into this yourself. They were horrible to Russell during his time.

[@carlosaispuro6405]

I feel like if you aren’t counting some of any championships it should be all the pre merger titles

[@meinking22]

"I don't count George Mikan." - Of course the clueless clown who knows next to nothing about basketball doesn't count Mikan. The Lakers were only worthy of being purchased largely because of...Mikan and his accomplishments. The brand would have been worthless ish otherwise. Total 2D chess brain. He should work for Jerry Jones.

[@natureredux1957]

So Colin guess what players and TEAMS think that have ZERO or maybe just 1 NBA title are thinking. It's really a non issue.

[@macstyler617]

But Lakers won the In-Season Tournament😂

[@brodyhoroshak]

Lynx have been championship 6 times and won 4. But fever are worth more! Colin is onto something

[@onlyoncamera0]

bros acting like 11 boston titles weren’t with bill russell in an 8 team league

[@TrendSettaRico]

Russell highkey played against plumbers and teachers 😂😂😂

[@mickser101]

Those 8 teams had the best players in the world. If thats the way you think then you should also say that the New York Yankees and Montreal Canadiens titles are tainted

[@arizonaFIREent]

And the celtics beat LA every time.... Current is better to youngsters... Winning is winning 18 is better than 17... Celtics 9-3 vs LA in the finals

[@Christian-eq6pq]

If Clark wins a WNBA championship and the league expands in 10 years, we not counting then???

[@onlyoncamera0]

@@mickser101 oh brother yeah maybe the best milkmen and accountants in the world

[@willread8376]

Boston needs a WNBA team

[@vinnybishop9188]

lmao it’s hilarious how colin contradicts himself how you don’t count mikan but said most they history came from the 17 & 1800s ?

[@darrellzukemura4062]

this is caitlin first year she playing with her team just coming out of college, she is already better than a lot of WNBA players didn't have much practice with the team doing way better than Diana tarasi been with her for what 17 years

[@lamerblack7536]

Are crazy Colin?! We have 17!!! If you’re not counting our Minniapolis Days, then you can’t count the Boston Titles when the league was biased

[@brianjhoneycutt]

I think if you want to penalize the Lakers for all the stars you mentioned you maybe should also penalize the Celtics a bit for the majority of their titles coming from Russell’s team when there weren’t that many teams. Or just weigh it all the same and give credit to both.

[@wisethabrain1100]

CC is making history that's gonna be on 30 for 30 story one day

[@KyleJBales]

Since 1970, the Lakers have won 12 titles while the Celtics have won 7. Since 2000, the Lakers have won 6 titles, while the Celtics have won 2.

[@dazzle1933]

Geographilcy isolated? Boston is 3 hour train ride to NYC, 3 hours or less to Chicago, And the Basketball mecca has never been NY

[@matthewstuart840]

In the last 60 years (modern NBA era) Lakers = 12 titles Celtics = 7 titles It’s absurd to say the Celtics “in general” are the better organization. Pure hate.

[@aobane841]

Jist because you don't count the Minny titles doesn't mean they don't count. It's the same franchise. It's like people who discount the stats in the 1960s. I can say I don't count Wilt's records, but they exist and are on the books.

[@jabobo45]

Does he not realize that the 18 rings the Celtics have 11 are from before the 1970's 😂 you can make an argument that the Celtics are a better run organization than the Lakers but don't act like without Russell the Celtics are still a household name. Btw it 12 to 7 Lakers advantage past 1970

[@imadepresseddetroitfan7197]

You’re not going to count the Minneapolis rings, but your counting the 11 they won in the plumber era? Hypocrite at its finest.

[@Roman-ez4hq]

Basketball was invented in Massachusetts

[@ChildOfThe1970s]

So many of the other WNBA players are so jealous they refuse to see the positive effect Clark is having on their sport. Instead, they wanna tear her down and pretend everyone really wants to watch them lol!!

[@THEJOHNiVERSE]

You lost me a calling Magic Johnsont 6'8 1/2. What got under your skin today Colin?

[@user-is1xu1dp9b]

besides 5 of the titles were won by the MINNEAPOLIS lakers, a completly different team

[@damioncooney3203]

Def NOT tripling in 24 months

[@kingofpersia4559]

I don’t think it’s fair to count the Celtics 50s titles but not the lakers

[@sanbell]

And over half of the Braves, Giants, and A’s championships weren’t in their current cities, what’s your point?

[@quackquack34]

Ok shove the rings part aside, the Lakers are NOT a well run team, they just take advantage of their brand and the city to attract free agents, every season is full of drama (i get its la so there has to be drama). Meanwhile Boston does things quietly, methodically and the result is their team has been competitive since 2008 except 2013-14.

[@ye6973]

Four titles since the merger. Spare me any conversation about other franchises rings not counting. The team they beat this year wasn’t even around during the 11 of 13 stretch…

[@ye6973]

Also Lakers have titles in the 2000s, 2010s and 2020s, don’t start with the Cowboys stuff and no I’m not a Lakers fan at all

[@user-xi5qt7zs5w]

colin said they have a warm weather city ....all nba teams play in a dome unaffected by weather ...how does that make any sense !!!

[@Adam-oy7lj]

Even as a Celtics fan I admit the Lakers have 17 titles. They all count. But they're still behind the Celtics where they belong.

[@FreezeSolo]

Counting Russell and not Mikan? 🤔

[@Noin007]

What if we don’t just count titles? What if we count winning seasons or trips to the finals? Sure, the Celtics have more rings, but when they haven’t had a championship contender, the Celtics have often been completely out of the running. Where even when the Lakers didn’t win the title, they were usually competitive.

[@trollinthedungeon5255]

Can you imagine having 90+ million dollars and blowing it in the Indiana fever? Lmao

[@sheraldhill2728]

Celtics have 2 titles in the last 38 years. Lakers have 8 in that time frame. Lazy take.

[@casterwilhte7795]

How you just say not to mention “Kobe” and say lebrons name first is wild

[@pdexBigTeacher]

Indeed; when you're (uber) rich/famous, you love LA. The rest of us, it's another town with good weather, beaches, and mountains to ease the daily grind.

[@melikleggon4277]

If Kobe isn’t the greatest Laker ever he’s definitely number 2 and when talking about laker greats this man mentions Kobe like he was there for 3 years

[@bradleyjohnson6107]

Name one person in the WNBA actually better than Caitlyn Clark.

[@philrichards9232]

Clark us Bued and Magic together as long as she doesn't get any serious injury

[@teejaye6226]

Celtics have won 2 titles in the last 37 years....if THAT'S brainpower...I'll take stupid LA any day.

[@iang7244]

Bingo.

[@paulsiriphon5547]

They have 2 championships since the 80’s ……

[@arizonaFIREent]

And still have more hahaha 40 yrs and still couldn't catch up

[@StevenTaylor-xf4ij]

If you do a video with Caitlyn Clark please don't put other people i feel ashamed to fast forward to the WNBA.

[@Savviflo1]

It’s cuz there’s no distractions like in LA, so they work on there game more then others

[@ryansimmons5591]

how do you just not count minneaplolis? they dont count because they moved where the celtics didnt? You don't count the ones with george mikan, yet you'll count the ones with bill russell? just make sure you are being fair in your argument. the celtics have only 1 more championship and the lakers have been way more relevevant during a time where there are more teams in the nba and the league overall has been more competitive.

[@stephenpencheff6625]

Dont need glitz and glamour to be a great sporting city we know how to win and are just a great franchise across all American sports

[@futfem7rPrado]

"Clark may not be good enough to make the Olympic team." This just proves that he doesn't understand anything about basketball.

[@asclipiadis3236]

"Only 12"

[@tuckerj456]

Angel Reese said it's her too! Lol

[@SFVMike2MIA]

Lakers have 11 championships in 44 years. Lakers have been for the most part dominating the last 4 decades. Celtics only have a few since the NBA and ABA merged. Ill take the Lakers history over anyone.

[@francescadac6082]

So sad about Brink. She was supposed to be in the 3x3 Olympics for basketball. I hope she heals quickly!

[@ronin_1776]

I agree with colin about the team relocation titles

[@marcomotte5940]

Reese said recently she doesn't mind being the bad guy, being the bully. I want Angel Reese to succeed, but Reese can't have it both ways . Reese wants to consider herself both a bully and a victim. No one, black or white cares in school for the bully if he gets whacked. Reese has her mind on social media too much to totally concentrate on basketball. She could play even better, elevate her game but who's going to tell her. Not Swoopes!

[@natesarfo]

I finally understand why so much nba fans hate the lakers. They’re like the Cowboys, they always find a way to make it about themselves, even if they’re completely irrelevant to the topic at hand. The Celtics are currently ran well, this is management at its best. While the lakers… the lakers are more focused on fighting with KUWTK to be the most watched in LA, ran by a bunch of ppl that shouldn’t be in the position they’re in. Lakers currently don’t care about being good, they’re into the glitz and glamour of Hollywood. They Rather be the Harlem Globetrotters than the Denver Nuggets. Denver, Boston, Milwaukee is here to win games. Lakers are here to make headlines.

[@SUPESKI]

I’m okay if you want to discount the Minneapolis Lakers but then we should keep that same energy for pre merger Celtics

[@eddievangundy4510]

What a great open! Colin is a brilliant guy!

[@jghostgaming8035]

La and New York have to many distractions

[@juice07x]

The team that puts the ball in the hoop the most wins the game - Magic during halftime shows

[@danmortenson6859]

Yep, it's business. Colin, sir, you talk for a living. But you're harming your voice quality by using that mic that way. It's an end-address mic, not side-address. Great mic - aim it at your face and let it be great. Just sayin'

[@seankotch5055]

Colins so backwards on this. How you don’t count the Minneapolis rings but count all 11 of bill russells makes no sense they both should be considered. Regardless, if you’re going to look at the MODERN NBA (1980s-) it’s not exactly close. 5-3 lakers in the 80s. Neither won in the 90s. 4-1 in the 00s. 1-0 in the 10s. 1-1 in the 20s. The Celtics have 2 rings in the last 30 years idk how great you consider that tradition of winning, and i understand the last 10 years hasn’t looked great for the lakers, but at the end of the day the success just isn’t close.

[@cjsmith5787]

Oddly enough Cowherd seems to be the most reasonable about the wnba right now. Certainly more than the only people espn allows to talk about it (lobo/dreya Monica Mcnutt). They talk down to fans and fellow pundits alike, and even scared Steven a smith and Pat mcafee away from talking about it. Do they not know what’s good for the sport? (Rhetorical - obviously not). At least Collin is being real despite the weird lashing out. Kudos