Collapsed Cables Cost Lives!

[@efixx]

Compliant containment training module 👉 training.efixx.co.uk/course/compliant-containment-in-association-with-marshall-tufflex

[@n4thb4dc0]

Try telling BT, Open reach, Kelly communication, sky and Virgin Media about securing overhead cables properly, they just say "oh it's not carrying voltage" oh right so that's gonna save a life when it falls and someone gets caught and dies, it's ok because it's not a voltage carrying cable,

[@peterhall9516]

Agreed, cowboy outfits masquerading as respectable organization's

[@efixx]

The information's here for them! 💪

[@retrozmachine1189]

This is why I can occasionally be seen making comments about people doing data & electrical having had experience in the other profession too to do it properly. There's a lot of benefit in having walked on both sides of the fence, in my opinion.

[@james.telfer]

Had two young BT guys gaffer tape a new phone line to the front of a cupboard because they couldn't be arsed to move it away from the wall to drop it down the back, so that sounds normal.

[@UKsystems]

Generally, they will not install anything inside the building that canning tangle people anyway due to the way they install it

[@gospelman7222]

This is personal to me. Alan Bannon, who perished in the Shirley Towers, Southampton, fire, was a work colleague for some years. Smashing fella to work with.

[@RobertMcDonnell-yf7ll]

Ex door entry installer , we started doing this about 2012, we used metal p clips inside trunking, the company that I worked for always took it seriously, a bit if extra work could ultimately save someone,

[@restfulplace3273]

Solid content. Unexpected issue that needs to be more commonly understood

[@efixx]

Thanks very much! 😊

[@anthonybragg]

There must be thousands of blocks of flats where door-entry, TV systems in mini trunking, and new lighting in PVC conduit have been added over the years

[@efixx]

Yup, and this is a step along the road to fixing the problem. 💪

[@james.telfer]

Those trunking clips would also useful to stop being attached by the avalanche of random cables when you take the lid off... 😱

[@tebscat]

Good informative video. One of the better ones.👍

[@efixx]

Thanks very much. 😊

[@andysims4906]

It’s very disheartening when you go to all this trouble to comply and the cctv or burglar alarm company come along and don’t give a toss. See it all the time

[@efixx]

Yup, but the more we spread the word and make our own work compliant the more likely they'll cotton on! 💪

[@james.telfer]

Security Installer here: It's in the NSI standards to comply and we've been doing it for years. Obviously there are one-man bands that probably aren't registered, so no one to police them.... Also, if under fit-out/contruction the site manager or PM should be asking how they're fixing as we normally request the sparkies do the basket/containment.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

Report them

[@UKsystems]

You can always contact local building control because they’ve charged for work that is non-compliant and they will likely take some investigatory action

[@neilrowlings]

Great video. Could you maybe delve into the regulations regarding the routing of SWA submain distribution cables through a building & the avoidance of routing these through 'protected escape routes'? Would be interested to hear your thoughts.

[@efixx]

Good question. 👍

[@neilrowlings]

@@efixx Section 422 (422.2), Appendix 13 & May 2023 Corrigendum relate to this specifically. It is a tad confusing but after contacting the NICEIC, they clarify that sub-main/ distribution cables must not run through protected escape routes & the only permitted cct types are the 3no. in 422.2....wondering if you guys agree?

[@efixx]

@@neilrowlings Tune in to eFIXX TV next Wednesday we have Michael Peace from the IET joining us. Amd 4 may have some changes to this.

[@neilrowlings]

@@efixx great, what time?

[@efixx]

@@neilrowlings 8:00PM stream link will be up on Monday ready for the Wednesday show

[@night4401]

This is amazing, just found your channel. I am hooked, subscribed and notifications ON! Let me know if you have any other content out there for additional support.

[@effervescence5664]

In the last 12 months I've upset numerous commercial office refit companies because they've used plastic conduit and plastic saddles in the refits across the ceilings regardless of height. I insisted the saddles be replaced with metal and after some huffing they complied but surely companies doing this should keep up with amendments and technical bulletins. Or are these large companies just operating on the principle it's cheaper to pay the fine/ compensation etc than doing the install properly.

[@truefoa]

Excellent video

[@efixx]

Thank you kindly. 😊

[@abc123evoturbobonker]

I'd love to use the Mashall Tufflex firefly clips.. sadly they only sell them by the 400 or so, totally crazy, such a shame.. cool products I cannot warrant using

[@garethmatthews5488]

Considering an EICR would it be recommended to retro fit non combustible fixings ?

[@ks-hg5vo]

Just been given c2 on cables above false ceiling as they don't have metal clips installed prior 2000 tho so should be a c3???

[@olly7673]

And exactly where is the link in the notes to the training package then Joe, eh, where??? 😆

[@efixx]

Here it is 😆👉 training.efixx.co.uk/course/compliant-containment-in-association-with-marshall-tufflex

[@Ste2023]

Haha

[@mikethemask1525]

So what about in a domestic house 🤔

[@efixx]

Same rules apply but most cables are above plasterboard which is a fire barrier for typically 30 minutes.

[@mikethemask1525]

@@efixx ok but most fires will over 500c and 30mins most firefighters are just turning up at the scene these days 🤔

[@efixx]

Thats the requirements set in the building regulations. Thirty minutes should mean the property is empty and no need for a fire fighter to enter.

[@JimWhitaker]

Definition of "premature"?

[@robertjones3477]

I hope all the Asian countries see this as what they use certainly wouldn't be compliant here in the UK 😂

[@BobHannent]

Best practice is no bad thing, but the electrical industry clearly keeps making changes to regulations to make work and require money spent on training. Hey, surprise, it's a sponsored video... The emotional plea at the beginning was really over the top.

[@efixx]

If the changes increase safety standards and prevent needless deaths then that's not a bad thing. I'd rather be a bit over the top when emphasising that people lost their lives because of poor electrical practice than make light of it and more people die.

[@AAaa-wu3el]

@@efixx A concrete house is much safer that build of wood. To prevent needles death every house should be build of concrete, isn't it.