Collecting orks like it's 1993* | warhammer 40k 2nd edition

[@ironbomb6753]

Wow, what a blast from the past. Beautiful! I like the early edition orks far more than the new figures, but that's me.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Agreed. They have so much character.

[@jphang2950]

Nostalgia is a power thing, lol

[@johndoeyedoe]

They had/have so much more character. Quirky characters and some hilarious minis, the Konversion, just totally awesome.

[@christopherschwab6525]

100% agreed on how much more homogenous and "less fun/whimsical" Orks have gotten. It makes me sad GW doesn't still print the sprue with the curved chainsword and the old goofier-looking plasma guns. Fond, fond memories of when every autocannon had the animal head on the barrel-end. Non-optional.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Love that animal barrel

[@doc_eyebrow]

That's a real smorkgasbord of ork clans, good stuff

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

An ork tapas 😍 thanks

[@JohnR1298]

The looted leman russ in particular is brilliant, very inspired 👍😊👌

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Ah thank you sir

[@ktg8030]

Dude the theme song gets me every time. I have had a ton of Orks over the different editions, but cut back on the collection to keep the old Rogue Trader Space Ork set that came with metal minis, along with a couple of the original Ork Battlewagons. I have the Second Edition starter Orks with a bunch of metal extras including the Dreadnought. Then the 5th starter Orks with a bunch of extras. The plan is to paint them up to reflect the era they were each released in… but man, I just have too many projects.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Too many projects too little time. I'm glad you like the theme tune.

[@maximilian1129]

You are doing the Emperor‘s work with this blast from the past! ❤

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thank you. I fear it might be the work of Gork and /or Mork in this instance

[@iatebambismom]

I love the pre-Gorkamorka orks. Or the "Paul Bonner" era, as I like to call it.

[@OgreOnSprue]

I agree that Ghaz looks great!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

He does! I can say that since I didn't paint him 😍

[@Bluecho4]

The older Orks looking undersized compared to the new makes perfect sense if you consider that popular culture's perception of what an "Orc" was has changed over the years. Tolkien, who invented the Orc as we understand it, conceptualized them as just another name for Goblin. It's why everywhere from early Warhammer to D&D showed Orcs as being shorter than humans. They were basically just slightly taller goblins, and even Rogue Trader said as much when comparing average size. Orcs, as a fantasy race, we conceived as being numerous and cruel, but cowardly. It's only as time went on that "Orc" began to drift towards being conceived as larger and buffer than humans. Partly, I imagine, to further distinguish them from Goblins, and partly in attempt to make them seem like truly martial threats. The Steve Jackson LotR films probably helped with this, with the cinematic portrayal of Uruk-hai as being larger, more imposing Orcs. Warhammer, obviously, has hewed to this "enbiggening" of Ork-kind as a general rule. Making them comically large and muscular. The only exception being Kruleboyz over in AoS, who are thinner and weedier. But still tall.

[@fernlenker]

Thank you and YES Orks can be every size! the more less weight the faster they hit? =) i have some blistered here, now i love them so much more greetings from germany

[@laurencerushton3544]

That got me very nostalgic for 2nd edition orks and a need to scratch my Gorkamorka itch. If went down the road of making another, I'd be insisting that the cardboard Dread is still a tournament legal model when properly based.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

😍

[@Damnedlegion40k]

Ahhhhhh that's the stuff

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yessssss 🤩

[@Damnedlegion40k]

@@Miniscape-wh40k 'ere we go...

[@flamingdonut9456]

​@@Damnedlegion40k😂

[@fernlenker]

YES!

[@DavidCuthbertson]

Awesome models. Those 2nd edition models have such character. Especially the metal sculpts. Great work on them, can’t wait to see what you can manage in Orktober!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I will do my best mate 😍

[@WoffbootPootle]

Great stuff sir! I never got round to playing second edition but still have a good core of old stuff in my modern Ork army.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks 😊

[@daiatnara971]

Dat's a propa Orky mob! I like your paintwork on them - I love the old school Boyz but I often felt they could wind up a little bit TOO cartoony, I think the way you've painted their skin, with pink shading through the green on the lips and ears and noses, pulls them back from the edge, so they're proper fun Orks wearing their clan colours with pride (rather than as an afterthought like today's grimdark brute Orks do), but still a dangerous force rather than a joke. Not sure if you're interested in suggestions, but one of my favourite bits of Ork business is in Ere We Go, where one of the colour pages for the Blood Axes includes an Imperial Guard captain moonlighting as a mercenary advisor to the boss, calling himself 'Skumgrod' and wearing an over-the-top colourful version of a regular Guard uniform to fit in with the boyz. Might be where that looted tank came from, perhaps the captain made a tidy off-the-books profit letting slip when his regiment's motor pool sentries would be on their tea break and one of the Leman Russes would 'just happen' to have its keys left in the ignition...

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I did enjoy painting the skin. Thanks for the info of the turncoat guardsman. It's a cool idea.

[@1985slipstream]

Ork bikes with 2 autocannons were crazy op in 2nd ed.... if you could afford enough of them back in the day

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Oh yes

[@brenthartman502]

Just found your vid mate, I started with Rogue Trader Orks ... then went mad (working two jobs in the day) with 2nd Ed and Gorka Orks. So glad have kept most. Like your paintwork too ..Cheers :)

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cheers ☺️

[@drezavelt]

Nice overview of your collection. Good luck in Orktober getting them done. I think either some Boarboyz or Stormboyz would be great to see, both very characterful units.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thank you. I would like to pick up thr boarboyz because...boars!

[@ernestgraves4401]

amazing collection!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thank you

[@gamingborger]

thraka. like every boss. has only gotten bigger with time and waaagh!

[@flamingdonut9456]

Morning. I always preferred the look of the metal war bikes compared to the plastic ones. Can't read put my finger on why. The plastic ones just seemed cleaner some how, so just less orky. How about some madboyz? Were some really good sculpts back then. Really colourful, crazy and full of character. Although, maybe more third edition. Never played, just bought what I liked for my Blood Axes, then Evil Sunz armies, so limited knowledge on that side of things. More attracted to the modelling side of the hobby. Great looking army. Brings back so many memories!👍

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks. I could add Madboyz. They seem very rare though.

[@brionl4741]

Speaking of Heavy Flamer templates, way back when Warp Spiders first came out I was playing against my friend who ran Orkz, and didn't always keep 2" separation between his guys. A squad of Warpies popped in, unloaded all their web spinners and wiped out a mob of 30 grotz in one turn. What you need to get is some of the Ork/Genestealer Hybrids from Rogue Trader.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Ha that sounds cool about the warp spiders. I bet those ork hybrids are very rare these days.

[@hmgirlpopuri5819]

Very nice! Working on collecting a 2nd edition themed ork army for 10th at the moment myself. Going to run 6 mobs of boyz, 1 in each clan's colors. Just using the box set monopose goffs for the bulk of them but tracked down a nob of each type on ebay.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Sounds awesome

[@mcstabba]

The mek has telescopic legs! Awesome.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Go go gadget legs!

[@HerbaceousM8]

oh i follow Jim too. good callout

[@happydrutt8932]

Enjoyed a look at all these models nice work by the way. Space orks was the first 40k boxed set i ever bought. They’ve had a few upgrades and have been made into shoota boyz many years ago. 👍🏻

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Glad you liked it

[@Hartmansgrad]

The Mek-Mekaniak is built from combining almost all of the gorkamorka bionik replacement parts into a single miniature. They released a blister of replacement bioniks for gorkamorka for when your boyz needed telescopic legs, a shoota for an arm or a bionic torso for some reason

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Oh right. Cool. Thanks.

[@the_green_haired_guy]

Fantastic collection!! But you sir need to get some buggies in the army 😃

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I do

[@fernlenker]

OH YES here they are ! great great stuff! Orks, Orks orKs.. Orks... is there a Song at the end? oh i should go to sleep but now i must watch untill the song comes...

[@dakkawaaagh13]

WTF DUDE shout out on you tube😍😍😍 thanks so much

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

You deserve it!

[@gavinjames1145]

I've got ten '93 gretchin to finish painting. I think they're great! I have already got sixty-plus current style grots, though, so I'll probably not need anymore for 10th Edition.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Well, more than 60 is probably meme territory 😅

[@pizzalord3n]

That's a nice hoard of green bois

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks

[@ellesse3862]

Beautiful orks, there should always room for old gems in a waaaagh. Original Ghaz still a great miniature.

[@Paragon--bm1lp]

I swear to gork and mork that scratch built Goffcart was built backwards. I do love the model, reminds me to something from GorkaMorka.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Mek cares not for this backwards and forwards concept you speak of

[@Paragon--bm1lp]

@@Miniscape-wh40k yes yes of course, as long as it runs fast and plows the enemy to a pulp. I do love having options and the interchangeable turret is one of my favorite features of tis warbuggy

[@yichlyichl4204]

Using newer models for 2E armies is one of the Orkiest things I can think of.

[@Bodkin_Ye_Pointy]

So, did you name any of the Orks? I got into them in 2nd Ed by default but properly started collecting when 3rd Ed released. For me the death of Orks occurred when Phil Kelly released the first hard back Ork Codex. Up until that point, if handled well Orks were a credible threat on the battlefield. I went of the green backed soft covered codex which allowed me to field a looted Demolisher Tank called Grim Daize, because it was going to be for somebody. However Kelly's butcher job, made Tank Bustas unusable. Made Grim Daize illegal. Dismissed Psycho blastas on the bikes, a trade off rule for halving the Auto Cannon range. Made my scratch built Flash Gitz illegal and pretty much over priced everything. Sure it was 6 points for an Ork Boy. But then you paid for a Shoota or a Slugga and Choppa. Ork Ard Boyz cost as much as a SM for a 4+ save and S3. And so, Grim Daize, the Flash Gitz, Tank Bustas and Bikers were consigned to the shelf. Trucks, Buggies and Trakks became Ronsons. Oh yes, my scratch built gargant with a giant klaw, belly gun (A Russ cannon) and arm with a Zapp Gun on the left arm. It was points costed from a table system put out by GW Chapter Approved. Also gone, years before GW ever released one themselves. My Waaagh Boss, Hammasmak Throbz in Mega Arma. Accompanied by his Nobz retinue, Throbz Nobz. Driven around in the trukks from Gorka Morka. I still have the models and they recently had a run with my son. Produced a whiff of nostalgia.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cheers. Today I learned. Haven't named any yet.

[@petersmith6513]

RE 14:03 "So what to you think is missing" Boarboyz obviously. This is a great collection though, well done.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I shall look out for them 😅

[@ukcubing3150]

Loving the content dude. Im curious as to where you will be taking the channel in future. Do you have any plans or longer term goals? Regular series or more batreps? All done with a retro twist of course. Love the vids man. Keep it up!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks dude. I have a list of videos in my head I wish to make. I'd love to make batreps but they take time and I would need some willing friends to participate...or just friends tbh 😿

[@andersand6576]

So good to see all the old minis again! Some of them i own, the rest i want to own. You should check out red Nebular for some nice retro stls for 3d printing.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks. I will look into it.

[@fernlenker]

0:36 i love the imagination of the paper Ork Cyborg(?) seen in the middle of the what is included picture of the backside of the box! it was turnamet rules legal! =) YES see 10:09 ! =) )

[@Mattw1987]

The old ghaz sculpt still the best i still have mine in box to paint, still fond of the old metal version tho

[@Mattw1987]

meant to say fond of the other metal verison as well as the original..!! both amazing not bothered about the new plastic one myself

[@DaftPhully]

Got a box load of painted original Space Orks.

[@KaeEbonrai]

Rad army!!! More Dakka!!!

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

🤩

[@RobertSingers]

Drop all those RT plastics in some heavy duty degreaser and they should come out nice and clean.

[@fernlenker]

9:06 you build such a nice Doc, he could give him a Arm with LongSword? the vehicle has autoGearClutch like Chaparral race Cars had, so oneArmedDrive is OK

[@fernlenker]

8:15 i like it like it YES i doooo... please ad a little grot to pump up the jam! =) ) ...and a fuel(?) line(?) einen Schlauch für die brennende Soße!

[@manofaction1807]

What you are missing? Why the BATTLEWAGON, of course... AND- a Wierdboy, and Minderz, the Madmob to with him. Nothing says LOVVE like a giant Foot of Mork template, stomping an IG tank.

[@brotherhoodofsteel4751]

Not going to say where but on one of the more popular 3D printing STL sites you can find a fan interpretation of the second edition paper dreadnought as an actual miniature

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Cool!

[@manofaction1807]

THIS is the problem, and hardest thing about selling old models.

[@Damnedlegion40k]

You'd really appreciate the original metal Arhiman and chaos sorcerer

[@andrewharper1609]

Snakebite Boarboyz/cyboar riders are missing.

[@bigfil1981]

Great video and horde. Would love to see some jet packs in your collection and some of the field guns, was there a bubble chucker or did I make that up?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks trying to add what I can. If a bubble chucker exists, I want it 😄

[@stillunsure7630]

Stormboyz are a must

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

The old ones in their uniforms? 😜

[@stillunsure7630]

@@Miniscape-wh40k Definitely, wouldn't be 2nd ed Orks without them.

[@stillunsure7630]

@@Miniscape-wh40k and boar boys

[@bobmoore-tg4vv]

There aren't enough like buttons. Your channel deserves to take off bigtime pal! How do I donate models?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Thanks. Very kind of you. My email is somewhere on here but I think you need to use a browser to see it.

[@johncolvin2754]

Has marneus calgar got 90s rules? Why don't I remember the hero of my childish obsession with the best of the best😅

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yes he's in two codexes

[@leefisher6766]

Great collection, you should add an artillery piece and a blood axe rhino......

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Artillery is so hard to come by though. Cheers.

[@leefisher6766]

I wasnt sure, so one little gun.....🙄 Mind you you the shock attack gun! Could custom build a gun? A rhino it is.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@leefisher6766 I could custom build a gun.

[@zeterzero4356]

Some day I'll make my grot tank army. Someday.

[@Ageofcontrast]

You need a tinboy! I got the squat one from a shop in Blackburn for a fiver last month

[@Ageofcontrast]

Intact too and painted in classic colours

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I need to get me to Blackburn. Which shop?

[@Ageofcontrast]

@@Miniscape-wh40k it's called the batcave, they only had one I'm 😟

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@Ageofcontrastthanks. Do they sell other such wares?

[@Ageofcontrast]

@@Miniscape-wh40k they had a couple of 1st ed ratling but I took those too, he said he gets new stuff in on a somewhat regular basis so might be worth giving him a message.

[@VikingGrazers]

Would be cool to see "GorkaMorka 2" using 10th gen rules

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yes it would

[@VikingGrazers]

@@Miniscape-wh40k I was v young when it came out. Do you have any idea if it was successful in GW's eyes? I see they've maybe rereleased Necromunda in the past few years?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@VikingGrazers it wasn't as popular as necromunda. This video explains it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fn23oYlplLKYocUsi=hgsdu9Ucpry9pQIM about 50:40 mark

[@AFAndersen]

in 3rd edition, red unz actually went fasta.. 1 inch extra movement

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yes

[@T3koner]

Recently found a range of orks that are recasts of the rogue trader boyz but done in the new modern scale i just dropped an ungodly sum on getting a bunch for my blood axes 😅 and now I'm looking to recast the rogue trader battlewagon and maybe get 2 of those

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

I would be interested in also finding these, especially the battlewagons

[@T3koner]

Trollet miniatures

[@T3koner]

The stl for the rogue trader wagon Is on cults 3d

[@T3koner]

Trollet does the old boyz the kommandos, old bosses and mega armored orks, warbike and they even do the old dread that looked like a dr who thing

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

@@T3koner thank you

[@flakrat459]

you should get an ork plasma rocket

[@themilkbaron8290]

Full vid on new warhammer compared to old?

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

That's massive, like PhD level and i'm not sure I am qualified to do it.

[@CDMJDMHHC]

would a proper orc feel sorry for crispy git hummies ?

[@DashCamSheffield]

Plasma Cannon? Whats one of them? Its a Heavy Plasma Gun ya filthy casual! I still have my Orks at my parents, in fact, I have 2 Ork armies. A Speed Freakz from the Armageddon era, and a Blood Axe army, but used the Death Skull rules from WD as it allowed me to use more than one looted vehicle. (my logic being, Blood Axez were known to deal/trade with the Imperium, so they'd been able to acquire some more) I even had a small unit of Lootas with Sniper Rifles, which were brilliant as they could pin themselves. Still remember the odd little unit of lootas with a missile launcher, that always seemed to hit everything.... I'll suggest trying to get some Gorkamorka models for variety, the scale is a little off, even making the 2nd-ed orks look big, but not enough to worry about. If I ever manage to get the models from my parents, I'll try to show them off.

[@X.davidWilliams]

Huzzah

[@sussy_6998]

6:02 the body porportions on that print are ok but i swear that guy looks like he has downs 🤣

[@xyonblade]

Orktober in September heh

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Preparing for it

[@xyonblade]

@@Miniscape-wh40k nobody expects the orkish inquisition! Orktober in September is just one more way to confound the oomies

[@rossdiggle]

I have 20 snakebite boar boys I got for free from gw. Why? Because I ordered 10 snakebite boys. Twice they got the order wrong and sent me the boar boys 😂

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Lucky, or unlucky depending on your viewpoint 😅

[@genghisgahan9623]

As someone who got into warhammer through space crusade in the early 90's I never truly "got" space orcs. I just saw them as a simple crossover from fantasy. However the book series "the beast arises" gave me a real appreciation for space orcs, made them feel like a real existential treat in the warhammer universe. Now I have started a very tentative collection.

[@warhounds]

you are missing a good ol stompa

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Is it missing if I don't want one?

[@warhounds]

@@Miniscape-wh40k MIA

[@rileysmith6501]

It's orktober

[@redgreen09]

well ok hare goes why not the ork fild guns the old metal ones not new thing thay call them me lie do so dawn of war war tracks you see in vid game thats me well will see what di and get doing that shame piel need thows troops to bring the daka

[@YouTellemFrosk]

The most disappointing part of GW, and White Dwarf, abandoning the role playing scene, for me, was the really poor models. Orcs went from very fine detailed with wargs and scimitar to these.. goofy goblinoids with overbites. GW clearly needed to go their own way, I get it.

[@Miniscape-wh40k]

Yeah I get you