The Cold Hard Truth of bad car buying decisions (DONUT MEDIA WON'T TELL YOU THIS!)

[@kevinrulezdoooooood]

happy thanksgiving boys

[@CollectorCarFeed]

Thankful to live in the best country in the world and drive the best generation of midship runabout

[@R3D_Lantern]

​@@CollectorCarFeed Amen, bro!

[@R3D_Lantern]

@CaptainFalcon07 Sounds like a good time.

[@wosik2001]

Base

[@s277garage6]

​@@CollectorCarFeedamen

[@jblox1990]

"They've built their car to appeal to a very small segment of their potential buyer pool and unfortunately, the group they've chosen doesn't have any money." Brilliant in its simplicity, brother. Totally nailed the hard truth of that shit.

[@dxviddc]

bam

[@hinoramei7733]

You're right about maturity Net, my first hoopty when I was 19 was a ratfucked single-cam S13 and me and my friends thought it was the sickest shit ever. I sold it for 3x what I paid for it, years later, I'm now 30 and own an OEM+ 370Z Sport Touring that I plan to keep N/A and not tear up, I truly enjoy it and don't want to beat on it. People often ask me "what are you gonna do with it?" and I explain why I'm gonna keep it close to stock and only add on moderate power mods. The younger kids in the car scene usually start to understand this idea of value when I explain it concisely. Another reason it's hard to lay this down to folks is because they're trapped in the dick-measuring horsepower chasing rat race, and choosing the wrong platforms for it, especially to daily. I see this insanity all the time on social media. That's a whole other can of worms though, loved the video as usual and look forward to more of your info pieces!

[@Jacknehof]

That's what it is social media influencing young kids because they get view cuz it makes good tv...

[@CarWavExe]

choosing the wrong platforms and power contests is mad facts im looking to buy my first car and do some performance stuff iv just been judging cars how much can a exshaust and tune makes and thats all the HP and mods will do

[@kevinhibbard320]

Totally agree. I never had a sports car when I was younger but I semi ruined my truck and street bike back then. As a 37 year old dad, I cringe at myself and I see all these kids in wrxs, Brz/86 and some z cars too and I think damn, I would love to drive that on weekends of it wasn't ruined. They do too much and do it poorly and ruin great cars.

[@kevinhibbard320]

Ps would I would love to have your Z, such a great car. Congrats

[@dpops]

Yeah I would say that for a normal kid your car shouldn't have anything past "stage 1". Proper suspension and maybe the addition of a limited slip diff is more than enough to have a ripping fun time with most platforms.

[@Wedge_lord]

I’m crying laughing from the “men want to be inside me” paraphrase. Also, I’m starting to refer to our design codes at work as the Ancient Texts. Raising some eyebrows. You guys are my heroes.

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Lmao

[@louismoench3554]

a 4 door 6 cylinder chevelle would be the coolest thing in the high school parking lot

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Unless some has a 2 door 396

[@MrOiram46]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 And then someone pulls up with Baby from Supernatural 😎

[@Syncopia]

I wouldn't buy it for the clout.

[@existinginaspace8347]

I actually tried to buy a 4 door chevelle twice. I like the steeper back window look. First one the seller wouldn't product paperwork and the title was obviously floated into non existence. My state doesn't accept bonded titles for registration either. Second was a teal thing and the seller wouldn't give me the address to actually get to the car... Sometimes I think people just don't want to sell. Either that or they were trying to sucker someone out of 1.2 and 1.1k each respectively.

[@SkylineFTW97]

@@existinginaspace8347 Bonded titles are just not worth it IMO. I've owned multiple cars with rebuilt titles, but those were clearly in my name. The cops can't just take it one day on a whim. Rebuilts make great beaters IMO, especially if you're mechanically inclined. I got a 2007 Honda Civic for my brother for just $800 ( and this was last year, so post 2020). It ran and drove from day 1, it only needed a new ac compressor and tires beyond routine maintenance. I was into that car for maybe $2k total after fixing it up to the point of being a hassle-free daily (I did all labor myself, including mounting and balancing the tires and recharging the ac)

[@Zach_A]

I realized my taste in cars was changing when I didn't immediately take a sawzall to the muffler as soon as I got a new one. Teenage me would have never let that happen.

[@danthebig__z4852]

Real

[@ferrywinklethehondahater]

i like thinking off CCF as the channel for the common man😤

[@stuka7907]

based

[@JadenWeeks]

This is a great video that captures how sincere and surprisingly heartfelt this channel is. I'm grateful to be bestowed with such knowledge, I would've spent my 20s on project cars I don't actually want. I hope more people hear the advice that CCF has to offer. Long Live Collector Car Feed.

[@Cjtmoroney]

Took care of my 350z like it was the last car I ever owned. Only modified it with parts that made it better that were highly sought after. Ended up selling it for 3-5k more than every other Z out there with the same mileage because I was one of the few who didn’t completely screw up the Z33 platform. Would have saved a lot of money in the long run if I never modified it but still just taking really good care of your car goes a long way!

[@skylork.7555]

I’m looking at buying a low(er) mileage 350z. I found one for a good price with good miles and I am not one for absolutely destroying my car and would keep it relatively stock. My friend is saying to wait to buy but I don’t know when a deal like this will come up again and the price is only raising for 350zs. How long did you have yours and sold it for that much more afterwards?

[@Cjtmoroney]

@@skylork.7555 I had mine from 2013-2021. No longer had a place to garage it and didn’t want it to rot as it was no longer my daily. Bought it for 17.5 in 2013 with 30k miles, sold it for 16.2 in 2021 with 93k miles. It did have 5k worth of rare parts on it that were highly desirable at the time, which helped it recover some of its value. A clean one stock would have like fetched 13-14 tho and I would have saved all the money on the parts and labor

[@Cjtmoroney]

@@skylork.7555 my advice for buying a Z is mileage and the type of owner is everything. You want to get it from an older person who only drove it on weekends but also took it to a dealer for all maintenance on time. That’s best case scenario- you can make exceptions here and there for the color or engine you desire but even the most mature teenagers/20 something’s with a sports car will dog on them or cut corners to get a desired look. That, or they simply can’t afford to properly maintain them. I would wait and try to save up for a 370z if you don’t hate the body style. I preferred the 350z at the time but the 370z is a much better platform all around and the Nismo V1 is one of the best looking Z cars out there imo.

[@diffedirl]

a fellow casio enjoyer. just when you thought netgear couldn't be more based

[@r.b.ratieta6111]

"We shit on a LOT of cars on the channel." Literally why I subscribed after three minutes into my first video. Not sure if it was luck or fate, but the first video I came across happened to be the Altima SE-R episode and I was laughing my ASS off. 🤣🤣 Dude, Collector Car Feed keeps it real. There have been opinions on it that I've disagreed with -- I look at a car and think, "Dang, I actually like that car," and Netgear or Feed will be like, "This is fucking cringe, dude", and I'm like "WHAT? I like this car." I don't get all mad about it, though. It's just a difference of opinion. Even the guys on Collector Car Feed have disagreements. Can't remember if it's Vukos or Atlas who likes hatchbacks and Volkswagens, but he'll say something like, "Yeah, that's a nice hatchback, I'd buy it," and Feed will be like, "Nah, dude, I wouldn't." That's just part of being human. Not everyone agrees on everything. I love this channel for the humor and pragmatic insights you won't see on promotional channels. Doug DeMuro isn't going to be like, "Wow, this 1992 Toyota Camry still smells like beer farts in spite of all the vacuuming we did and will likely fail in less than 50,000 miles with 384,000 on the odometer." He's gonna go through the history of the Camry, the history of Toyota, and he's gonna show how clean the seats look after being professionally cleaned and detailed. Collector Car Feed is like the happy medium between shiny dealership listings and Copart, with a lot of humor to boot. I think of it like the Mystery Science Theater 3000 of cars. So yeah, if you want cushy, promotional-friendly car reviews, there are literally a thousand other channels and websites that will do that for you. Collector Car Feed is like Poor Man's Top Gear. Humor and reviews with no apologies.

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

This is the sweetest thing anybody has ever said about us 😭😭😭

[@r.b.ratieta6111]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 ❤

[@nowiecoche]

It's why I am subbed to this channel. One of the funniest channel out there. It's also amazing that people out there cannot fathom that people have differences in opinions.

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

​@@nowiecocheor that their opinion is the minority

[@vukos]

hell yeah that's what this is all about

[@hotboyola]

Bought a cl600 and thank god I went through enough to deal with it because anyone else would be quickly bankrupt without a mechanic or being a mechanic themselves. Thank god for the forums, used parts and pdf diagrams for the real ones. I’ve had mechanics say they “don’t know” about issues I spent 2 hrs researching and figured out with a “mid” tool set. Be safe, do your research, and have confidence in your work.

[@SamLoki]

Man. I was about to trade in my mazda 6 for an e400/550 and decided maybe i'll miss how cheap maintenance is lol

[@hotboyola]

@@SamLoki with older generations, everything is pretty available as they get junked/parted out a lot. The only thing I would fear about a modern MB is the cost of the parts tbh. I had a friend of mine with a 2020 CLS550 ask me to find him breaks and rotors. He was quoted over 4k for just the parts from the dealer. I found everything on rockauto for $800 but each item was sold out. It’s really hit or miss, also you have to keep in mind what parts are interchangeable with other models.

[@tenhundredkills]

100% agree with you about forums, used parts, and PDF diagrams. Personally, I'd add KZbin tutorials to that list. When I was a broke college student, I started working on my car because it was the only way I could afford to, not because I love wrenching. When the dealer wants $800 to resurface rotors, learning how to do replace with new pads and rotors for less than half that price (including tools) becomes pretty appealing! Granted, that was a 2012 price, but the point still stands. Doing your research and work yourself is a tremendous cost saving!

[@pyrune1]

I made this mistake a few years ago on of all things, a WRX. It wasn't even an STI but "oh man, look! It's on air suspension! . It also has some *nice* mods to the engine. I won't have to pay to have this done if I just buy this!". Long story short I sold it at a big loss a year later because it had power drain issues requiring me to charge the battery every other day and a lot of other gremlins. Don't buy modded cars kids. Please at least learn from my financial mistake.

[@mkage3676]

as a 4-door R34 owner in Japan, I agree. That looks like a RB20 GT and those go for 4-5k USD in Japan. For that model the ideal engine is an RB25DET Neo, and run much higher than the auction price listed in the video. Thanks for dropping some knowledge

[@casa-35]

I think it was listed as a 25DET Neo, so might have been which isn't that bad of a price tbf

[@tmlmagee]

@@casa-35 yea it was neo swapped

[@61936]

There’s literally someone who’s selling a gtt for 65k like that like a older 911 or older r35 price

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

How much do the actually good 4 doors cost? Preferably with AWD

[@mkage3676]

@@My_Old_YT_Account last I saw they were $15k-35k USD. That doesn’t include shipping and storage costs if you need to store the car before it’s shipped

[@houcitydriftllc7168]

Can we talk about why drifters ask insane money for their drift builds. I see all the time drifters asking 3-4x more than what their cars worth just because “it’s setup ready to go drifting”

[@plav032]

There is a difference between a guy who actually builds a drift car purposely with the right mods and it takes significant investment, and a kid who slaps on shit wheels, coilovers and a chassis mount wing that calls it a "drift build" I'm building my FC for drifting, but it's got the right parts, a moderately built drive train with reliability the primary goal, it's probably cost me double what the car is worth, but I'm accepting that I built it for a specific use, and the potential buyers are going to be very limited. But I'm probably never going to sell it and just pass it on to my son.

[@houcitydriftllc7168]

@@plav032 no I get it, purpose built professionally done cars aren’t outrageous. It’s the half assed builds like you said. I have a OE+ drift built 350z stock motor, only suspension work done. I know if I ever went to sell it’d fetch like $5k and that’s how much I’d realistically expect it be worth buying/selling. Yet I see similar spec’d out cars asking $13-20k for a stock motor suspension only clapped car just because it’s “turn key” point is, they’re asking professionally built money for a car that’s only half assed

[@ososrm92]

Because there is a market out there of kids working at fast food chains and grocery stores saving every paycheck while they live with their parents to buy a car that has all the mods they don’t know how to do so they can go do dumb stuff right away with no efforts on their end. That’s an entire generations worth that has now encouraged that type of car to be sold.

[@libingmeme8474]

@@houcitydriftllc7168 because it's sick as fuck in their heads and they think they're just like the well built cars + they write down all the alibaba reciepts in their notes app then slap that shit on top of the price thinking a 10€ sticker pack makes it rise by 10€-.

[@MrReznorPlays]

The part on not settling is very real. I bought an E36 M3 with this exact mindset - yeah I could have got a 328i and converted it but that's just not gonna be worth what an actual M3 is worth

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Spend who knows how much money on M3 stuff, just to end up with a car that still isn't an M3

[@MrReznorPlays]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 100%

[@damienlee1165]

@@carfriendsimulator9981 Not to mention the possibility of ruining it along the way if you don't do it right.

[@MattIsBored322]

Been there, i wanted a prelude, and while the the s and vtec models are good, they dont have the prestige of a si 4ws, so i searched and got the right one, and ive had 2 people offer to buy it for double the price i paid, that prestige just osnt there with the s models

[@dukedub]

Especially true with bmw.

[@dookiekouki-us]

Something I really love is pointing out is the price disparity between auction sold prices of JDM cars versus what cars are being listed for in the US by both “importers” and private sellers. For example, In my area (seattle) you can see several examples of 4 door skylines being listed in the mid 30k price range. To contrast, you can see similar skylines selling under 10k on auction websites.

[@ChumMiser]

That bit with the venn diagram is absolutely true; my dad used to own a 2000 civic sir, only owner and he had kept it bone stock. Had absolutely no issues selling it back in 2020. Meanwhile I go looking for a 6th gen si/sir for nostalgia and all I see are these chopped up, molested civics that have been sitting for months! Blew me away; great vid as always

[@windscar15]

I’m the kind of weirdo who actually likes lower trimmed Skylines as long as they’re manual. 11k for that R34 with the stupid mods is a shitty deal. Rule number one for us weirdos, get it for cheap and offload it for cheap. This is a rapidly depreciating asset, never forget that.

[@yeetmeme6027]

lower trimmed skylines are cool i want one with low milage and 4 doors so i can use it as a normal car

[@alphatrion100]

So how much would you pay for A nice 4 door skyline? Because i don't think 10, 11k is that much money in todays world

[@windscar15]

@@alphatrion100 if you can find one below 15k in decent shape. You’re doing alright. That said, I guarantee it’s a non turbo automatic. Anything with a stick is going for way more.

[@Michael_Ruiter]

The not settling is facts, I saved a 2003 sn95 gt from going to the junkyard in April. It was a great car, manual and all stock, mint interior and rust free but with 190,000mi and was a vert. I was contemplating keeping it, but ultimately a vert while fun, isn’t for me and ended up selling it. I’ll be looking for a fun rwd manual in the summer, and I definitely don’t want to compromise or have to cope. Currently my top choice would be a 1st gen BRZ/FRS/GT86, but it would have to be stock or very close to stock which is hard to find lol

[@landark1967]

Shoulda bought the R33 GT-R I looked at in Japan back in 2014 for $13k. And then worried about where to keep it until last year.

[@桜島めい]

Same, I was looking at $5k S15 Spec R’s back in 2017, I’ll probably regret not getting one forever.

[@Sagiso2746]

This is excellent advice to not only educate people but also keep the cars we love on the road. Really if you want to mod your car you have to expect to lose a lot of money in both how much it costs to build a car and how much value you are losing. Sometimes that’s fine if you really want to mod a car or if you have a shitbox with a lot of miles that isn’t worth anything anyways. But if you plan to resell your car at all, you’re do much better off spending your money on keeping the car in great shape physically and mechanically.

[@Noah-nj8il]

As a teenager, I really appreciate netgear as a car enthusiast father figure. I know it’s financially illiterate to modify my car but I just genuinely enjoy it and I am willing to take the monetary hit.

[@Teggymania]

.....Just don't do stupid shit that will make it hard to sell.

[@existinginaspace8347]

​@@TeggymaniaIf they're driving it into the ground then that doesn't matter.

[@Teggymania]

@@existinginaspace8347 It does matter, because the money that they're pissing away having the coolest Sunfire in the school lot is money that can be used for a car they actually want. Or literally anything else.

[@l.k.isaacs2867]

@@Teggymania what if they like having the coolest sunfire

[@GTRFREAK17]

Quality video mate. Interested to hear your (and the boys) perspectives on the psychology of buying cars, especially the "settling" aspect because it's something I've always kept in mind for vehicles I want to keep forever. If you buy something "lesser" than your goal vehicle, you'll always have it in the back of your mind and know you could have done better. Sure life circumstances can change our choices and sometimes we need to find balance but it's always a consideration...

[@Jimmy-hr6ty]

I honestly really enjoy this channel and you sir have made me more aware of the car industry from watching your videos since last year. As much as I would love to own a Skyline or a Silvia it is unfortunate how high the prices are due to the overhype. However, as you have mentioned in your I'd rather admire from a far than spend large sums of money on a car that the price tag will stress me out more than how happy I'd be to have the car. Either way, thanks for always spreading your awareness and keeping it real.🤙

[@JoeGess]

Happy thanksgiving gentlemen. Thanks for keeping me from modding up my SC300, keeping it stock was a great decision for my wallet, short term and long term. Love ya Net, keep doin what ur doin.

[@corncobking892]

Just ran across the channel in the last week or so and you all are super grounded, it's very refreshing compared to a lot of channels that are obviously sponsored to just burn piles of money. Great explanation of why modded cars are usually less desirable, I want a C5 pretty badly but holy shit the boomer mods.

[@louismoench3554]

you'll never buy the wrong car if you use ccf

[@Youtube-swimmer]

4:00 this is exactly why I like this channel, KZbinrs that just flex nice cars and do normal car things in exotic cars are kind of lame. Being upfront and realistic about how the car scene is or what it’s like buying a car I feel like is really needed when it comes to the car scene content.

[@HamsterWheelGaming]

My first weekend warrior was a '92 1st gen DSM. I spent quite some time modding it into a track car (cage, seats, the whole 9 yards) partially cause of some track days I did but mostly because I was in my early 20's and 'becuz racecar'. On one hand I was happy I did it cause it was one of my dreams...but now that I'm 33 years old I look back and wish I kept it stock. Because 1. a DSM on its own is already a fine car to drive spiirted and 2. because I modded mine I sold it for a fraction of what I could have gotten if I just kept it stock. You're spot on, because of the mods I did my potential customer base shrank a lot more and I finally found another young dude who took it off my hands. Nowadays I drive an MR2 but I'm keeping my eyes open foe another DSM but this time my challenge is to keep it as stock as humanly possible.

[@zgSH4DOW]

I appreciate the watch check 🔥 I noticed I'm reaching that point too-- unmodified, factory cars are some of the most mouthwateringly beautiful things I've ever seen. Being clean is just an extra Their heritage and legacy is becoming louder than their appearance/performance

[@wosik2001]

Netgear, thank you for telling the truth. Always fuck them sticker, expect for Collector Car Feed, they will increase the value 400 percent.

[@ken_lee_]

Having hard-earned cash in hand is the most sobering thing when dealing with purchasing old cars and associated parts. Shitty builds can almost always be traced back to instant gratification financing services like Affirm, or in the case of 2020 and 2021, stimmys and unemployment checks

[@deaf2819]

I wonder how much of said tracing you have ever done. Probably none but if the goal was to gargle with the nuts of this guy ( who is?????? & his dream cars being old American hunks of shit is kinda telling at least to someone who sees those old muscle cars as the underachievements to the automotive world that they are)

[@blib3786]

@@deaf2819 Cope, those "american hunks of shit" are always going to be infinitely cooler than whatever piece of shit German cars you drool over.

[@Leo9ine]

​@@deaf2819Dude are you ok

[@DBRCustoms]

If you're only buying to invest towards the sale, you're not buying for yourself. Become a used car salesmen if you're only in the buying to sell game, specially having access to the dealer auction network. Buy the car you want, if you can't afford it, either re-evaluate your wants or your budget. Also if you're not sure if you might have to sell, keep all the stock parts and be willing to put things back to stock as mods rarely equal more value. Also I would buy a s chassis vert or a 4 door skyline, I like them and them not being popular makes them affordable.

[@TimSlee1]

I wanna modify my car but i'm keeping the stock parts for that very reason, they're a better selling-point than personal modifications.

[@AndrewBarsky]

Also, KEEP STICKERS TO THE WINDOWS. You can always scape them off when it’s time to sell. 😅

[@frauzschttek2098]

Depends on what mods and build you’re going for and if it’s practical. Bought some dealer cosmetic mods for protection to the body and to style it more, thinking bout a front brush guard in the future. So far, lower door cladding, rain deflectors, sidesill plates, and a spoiler so far all bought and ordered through dealer

[@Tbullock-i9c]

Straight up the best video for a new car enthusiast, wish I saw this when I first got into cars.

[@magiciansforce]

That's kinda where I'm at right now. The car in my crosshairs is a Pontiac Solstice GXP. Thing is, there's a guy in town selling a base model for $8750 or so. I wouldn't mind just buying it just to say I got one, but I'd never be happy knowing I got a 170hp automatic with a wishy-washy suspension when I could've dropped the $12k to buy the manual with a turboed 260hp and a tighter suspension. Those three letters change the calculus massively.

[@kalebmarin7914]

That 4k goes a long way, gxp babyyyyy

[@Xyblid]

I own a solstice gxp. Car is definitely worth it. Be watchful on previous maintainance the last owner did as there is a lot that can go wrong that is costly. I'm about to get tuned to go 300hp+ and at least 340 or more torque. Car barely needs any mods to go really fast. Huge downside is this is not a daily car. Dont fool yourself with that trunk and say it can fit a lot.

[@adamsmined2179]

I bought a solstice base as the GXP was out of my budget... If you havent bought a solstice yet get the GXP. I wish i saved the extra 3k and just got the 90% boost in power

[@PURENT]

@@Xyblid Like what? Aside from the water pump going bad and the timing chain guides breaking.

[@Xyblid]

@@PURENT yeah those are the main things. Radiator fan ecu can go out, oem charge pipes pop out if you get a tune, and the hpfp can go out, leaking too much fuel in your oil. Compared to most cars this was a very cheap car to fix. Really fast tuned as well, but the seats suck

[@user-sg7gx7pu8p]

I'm glad I found this channel. You can tell you've matured with age, but still always had your head on straight and been realistic. Nice work

[@koolkid6773]

If your worry about the money when building a car don't do it your gonna 1000% regret it at the end n your not gonna get your money back.

[@nestoworks3402]

Gotta love the 240s without a front bumper asking top dollar

[@OuterMender]

you know, when you said "avoid settling" at 7:10, i felt that. The car I ended up with is a lot of fun and i love it but i settled for it and that's pretty much became the main buyers regret i have for it. Especially when i found 2 of the exact car i was looking for not even a month later. i love my car very much, just wish i didn't settle with getting it, should've waited

[@unchainedsilver9702]

Agree 100 percent , plus another issue with this car it is from Canada and we only have a 15 year import rule so a lot of these 4 door r34 were brought in cheap 10 years ago and no people that have them are looking to cash in selling them to someone in the US ..

[@robhaldane3347]

It’s so true on used trucks up in Canada, as well as to what you are saying. People invest well in the engines run them to decent milage, and then expect to get all their money out because of the upgrades, while they’ve also done their own specific lifts and rims, and paint choices. Stock version of their trucks go 15k and they want 25k for all their upgrades etc. If anything their trucks are less appealing then the blank slate version let alone well maintained small intelligent power upgrade versions.

[@derivinity]

I remember talking to a couple people online that I was gonna only "tastefully mod" my gr86, they seemed absolutely APPALLED that I wasn't gonna slam and turbo it. I'm just like what??? It's MY damn car lol, I don't like slammed or even very lowered cars 😂. And turbos tend to kill these things. Because I like driving it AS IT IS. Shit's fun as hell without me even touching it!

[@HondaorBust]

Man I’m glad I was able to learn this because I had to spend all my money fixing my car so I had no money left to modify it 😂 great vid

[@mr.funkyright]

the modifications on thr 4 door skyline was in my opinion done so that it can hide problems either rust or peeling paint.

[@myrmeko]

Personally, i bought my car to keep it forever. That's why i don't really care about what problems it has. I just want to keep modding it until i'm satisfied with the result. Only extremely period correct mods, nothing modern, nothing flashy, only original factory paint, no widebody, no turbo, no s/c, no nothing that could make it looks anything but stock-looking. I got a Golf MK3 Syncro 2.0 8V. It's the rarest model of them all, most f them are either diesel, 1.8L or VR6. People either bought the top spec (VR6), bought the work donkey (diesel) or they bought the cheapest one possible (1.8), leaving the 2.0L along "on the store shelves". I looked far and wide for this exact version and when i found it, i got this 16V swapped (i would have swapped it anyway) kinda not that finished, visibly project car, example. But it's finally mine for as long as i live. So i don't worry about not having time to fix it up. I want to get every single possible factory and dealership option on it, because i want the absolute max specced out Golf MK3 there was. No matter how ridiculously expensive some of those items are. Besides that, i want some power, mainly 200+ N/A HP (crank) without ITBs, because i want it to look as stock as possible. So high comp, forged everything, ultra aggressive cams, high rpm, large TB, modified intake manifold, pulstar sparks, 2.5" titanium exhaust, high flow cat and muff and everything in between. And, of course, stability mods. Anti roll bars, hard bushings (except at the rear because the Syncro has passive rear wheels steering kinda like a 911), adjustable coilovers, chassis braces and semi-slicks. I want the literal ultimate road&track Golf MK3.

[@awizzle727]

Not cars, but somewhat relatable. I bought two Banshees pre cvid for $2800. One clapped out and an all original 99 that was sitting for 16 yrs in an ac'd garage. I've had offers for $10k+ but have zero interest in selling. I just did minor bolt ones, still have all the original parts on my garage shelf. Was able to sell the clapped out one for what I paid for both of them...

[@sadpainpapi]

As a WRX guy who wanted a STI this couldn't be more true.

[@sorrowcat2724]

It really is better to keep cars stock. (Especially when they are older!) I used to have a very well taken care of, original 2002 Honda Accord, 5 Speed 4 banger. I waxed it daily, detailed the interior, without doing any mods. People offered me over $8k for a CLEAN, STOCK economy car over 20 years old. if I put a GT wing and flashy colors on it, the value would have dropped by half. Guaranteed.

[@Ktmfan450]

I was waiting for the DONUT media video on this issue Glad U found you guys

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

They'll never say it out loud

[@dylbo420]

​@carfriendsimulator9981 because of what you mentioned about the aftermarket companies, they are sponsored by them when they did those build videos. They're trying to sell products, by people keeping their cars stock they won't sell the products.

[@ZeeSmurfz]

not only you guys talk shhhhhhhhhhhhhh you also teach us. No bs, u guys are great

[@legrognard6699]

brilliant, I just found your channel, this is second video I've watched and I'm hooked. Great advice bro thanks

[@s13sil80]

You didn't even hit on the most egregious part of that Skyline; the fact that it was swapped. Which means, they bought an even lower spec car, and swapped an engine in it to try to make even more money off of it. But the real cope-mobile would be a 2 door, non GT-R.

[@catalyst_yt1472]

Thanks netgear for the writeup! This is super accurate for the average enthusiast. Keep up the good work and thanks for taking a look at the Z32, best of luck for the future of the channel!

[@mattae2037]

This is good advice. I think the most important part is keeping it real to yourself. Do you want to spend the cash on the car to have fun, knowing the value goes down instead of going on a long vacation that costs the same or do you want to sell it for more down the road? I remember not too many years ago you could find a decent 240sx here in sweden for between $2000-3500 and on the higher part of the intervall you would actually get a nice one. Due to the cars being so cheap, it wasn't such a sacrifice to cut one up and just drive it to the max on the track. Since we have long winters here in Sweden there is usually lot of different tracks that are plowed up on the lakes around. We usually fix up our cars to a decent shape (always keep them in good mechanical condition). As the years went on a lot of those cars (240sx, e36, e30, volvo turbos) fell victim to that type of driving and the availability went down drastically. Since I was able to experience the time when you could get these cars for cheap (I was able to buy e30 325s for $1000 and then it was even passed inspection) I still have the tedency to view them in the way we used to when they were worth nothing. Nowadays cars like e46, e9x and so usually meets the same destiny. I personally own two R33s that neither of them are stock. I love the style of the car like the way they look in japan with the aerokits/m-sport/duce. And even with tuning it can be done in many different ways with genuine tuningparts or ebay knockoffs. It gets the look that I am after and since the japanese people are crazy for that style I know that I can in the worst case ship my car over there and get paid decently. Even so I am aware that the market value for my cars would be higher if they were kept in stock condition but then again for me it's a compromise that I am willing to make. I get to have the car I like, looking like the way I like it looking and having a good time. Since I am not really intrested in the cars in a stock way (atleast right now) I'd probably instead just have put the money on stock/funds/forex to grow in the first place. I'm okay with having a modified JDM car that is able to run some nice drifts on a track or a lake knowing the money in it is the money that I could otherwise have put on traveling and enjoying other things (fun money). My girlfriend owns two 240sx. One super clean which she paid decently for I must say and one in worse condition with some rust and not at all a collectors car in any way. The price of the second one was way lower, btw. She keeps the clean one stock and just drives it around some and keeps it well maintained while she is doing her dream build on the other one knowing it is in a pretty bad condition anyways so that she can say that she once built a 240sx the way that she wanted. She is okay with the modified car not going up in value like the other one.

[@K_man217]

I love that you start your vids with a wrist check man, keep it real

[@basedautism2283]

I seriously wish this channel was around when I was getting into cars

[@icrashalot2266]

I'm actually okay coping with a 4 door r32 as it is pretty practical and is a pretty car. It's pretty much a 4 door g35/7 that you can get it manual, but I ain't ever gonna pay ridiculous money for it lol. Also, part scarcity for the RB is the number 1 reason I probably won't even get a skyline anymore. The car will definitely be my daily and the lack of available parts is gonna hurt it's dailyable if I'm too afraid something will break that I can't find without paying an arm for it.

[@TimSlee1]

It's either cope with less or be rich and buy whatever you want. On the other hand you'd be less willing to modify an expensive car to your taste than a cheaper one.

[@Slammed13FRS]

I am glad i found someone to make fun of my frs and make me smile at the same time..... yall the real ones!

[@leonardcrisci7254]

In the Tahoe group that I’m in you have people all day trying to sell 25-year-old Tahoe with damn near 300,000 miles for like 20 grand because they spent like $5000 on rims and tires and a stupid $5000 system

[@Kyle-ty6mx]

I've been thinking about buying a stock low mile auto r34 skyline sedan near me. I know it's the least desirable model but I love how 4 door skylines look and im mostly just looking for a simple daily.

[@imjustthere9343]

I mean, The 4 door you can turn it into a project car and sell off the parts you dont want, maybe add some small fender kit and swap the wheels, lower the car and change, or mod the engine bay of the car and you got yourself a clean looking car. Might be pricy but cheaper than if you were to buy the exact one you want. Plus you can turn it into a drift car which I want to get in to. But it depends on who wants it and what for. That car is not too far gone yet from what i've seen.

[@yotamayne4820]

I bought two sc400 each for a 1000 and learned the hard way about buying a cheap roached out cars now I'm saving up for a clean sc400

[@Michael_Ruiter]

Yeah I fucked up with an s10 I bought last year, paid $800 for a driving manual rwd 4 cylinder 1995. I immediately had to replace the clutch, and then 2.5 months later the motor went bad. Then I thought it would be great to v8 swap it. It’s like 85% done now but it’s been over a year now since I started the swap 😅

[@No_Use_For_A_Name1981]

As a car guy, im always torn from buying little mods like a catback or leaving things stock. Even in middle age i still crave something small to make my cars feel unique, even though its a big waste of money. My mk5 supra, ive had it wrapped in neon-green because the silver color just didnt stir my insides. I love it though and have zero desire to mess with a single mechanical part. And happy to know that in the (very) unlikely chance I'd sell it, the wrap can be removed and the factory paint will be perfect.

[@Akac3sh]

shout out to the guys that run this channel for always keeping it real and actually yeah being a every man channel.

[@JM-bb8xi]

This is so true, when I bought my current comuter beater (99 Jetta), the guy I bought it from tried to sell it to me by telling me about all the trash mods it has, like cut springs. I lowered my offer, saying oh well im bringing this back to stock and told him I was gonna throw all that stuff out (which I did). Luckily a MK4 jetta is easy to work on and in 2 weeks I had it back to stock which made it drive so much better, and thNk goodness he didnt touch the engine. But thats the kind of car you can trash mod for teenager tastes, cheap and theres a million of them around. 100% agree that tastes change over time, im in my 30s, but I was young once too, and I can see why a body kit or turbo kits, etc... might be nifty. Full disclosure, I totally did similar trash mods to my first car (99 Grand Am), and it was a lot of fun as a kid with my first call all the way thru college when I got something more appropriate to that season of life.

[@UMKA1978]

I have my 240SX Zenki for 23 years. Stock. 159K original miles. Best car on the planet. Almost everyday I get offers from random people wishing to buy my car. Its not for sale, of course. Next month I'm going to replace the whole suspension: front/rear struts, front/rear/ control arms, tension rods, lateral links, RUCAs, stabilizers, bushings. All OEM parts (except RUCAs).

[@normanCLAN]

Thank you guys for being real, and your advice. Keep up the great content!

[@krzytofr34]

So happy I was, and still am, into Hondas. Hate all you want, I had a manual, boosted, single cam in highschool which matched with Mazda speed 3 and had a ton of fun with it. Today, hatchbacks are out of the question, but you can still get a decent coupe for $1200, and a sedan for $500. 🤷‍♂️

[@toweringhorse2054]

I never understood your 240sx convertible slander. I just bought one and I’m absolutely obsessed with it. They’re just cool 90’s cars. I plan on just keeping it the way it is and cleaning it up. Now there’s plenty of people settling and buying one because “BRO ITS A 240 BRO”, but for people who want one just for the sake of having something neat looking, it’s a pretty compelling car if you can find an immaculate one.

[@ShreN_]

5:12 I bet that Skyline family sedan went for 10 grand. Edit: Damn i was pretty close

[@skippylegrandgourou2069]

There is tons of those in Canada/ Vancouver for like $6000-9000. Got a $3000 JDM Subaru B4 RSK twin turbo making 340hp, this thing is stupid and tons of fun.

[@yerrrrrd]

I always find car modding so strange, it's like you're expected to mod your car. I get engine modding to an extent but if you're at the point where you're rebuilding the whole thing rather than giving it a stage 1 for a car you'll only be driving on roads anyway it's ridiculous. I am a massive purist though.

[@BigJonkulous]

If you squint at the Skyline sedan, it looks like my old '95 Camry. I miss that car.

[@tips4truckers252]

The amount of beautiful stock nsx, rx7, skylines, etc. That I saw at cars and coffee and I went crazy over. Next time they had side skirts, then a wrap, then a wing, cut rear bumper, omg I want people to enjoy their cars but realistically you are going to sell it in 2-3 years.

[@dead_eddy2237]

Thanks, this is sobering advice. I'm curious though, what would cound as a teastful mod? Would replacing the stock bumpers and side-skirts for the trim above it count? I have a '09 c30 2.4i

[@davezaffina1983]

When I was young I owned 2 S13's when they were affordable before the hype. I went to a 2+2 300zx that I swapped with a jdm front clip vg30dett. The Z was a better car overall after all the work. I am older now so I have a BMW M2 that is amazing in everyway. I believe my taste evolved over time

[@DarkEaterMid]

You're definitely correct about the buyer pool. You see it all the time, some 1 of 1 custom fiberglass/bondo bodykit on a poor Fiero, 350Z, NA Miata that only attract a certain group of people who are only into clapping the car out and running it into the ground. Or you get people looking for a clean slate that is out of their reach. There's been automatic NA Supras with crazy custom bodykits, paint, air ride suspension, lambo doors going for insane prices. That only appeals to a very, very tiny amount of people with that much money and taste. Don't limit yourselves, folks. If it's a car you want until the end of time, then do what you want with it. I have a stock 1986 300ZX Turbo manual from a one owner and I've just been keeping it OEM+. Very little things done to it that could be easily removed and reversed which I keep the old parts anyway. I get a bunch of people, from older gentlemen that had one growing up or knew someone that had one, to younger guys asking if they can buy it. I know once I start modifying it to the point where it'll get more expensive or out of peoples taste is where I'll struggle to sell it.

[@omarhuerta260]

This is true I had that issue with my 2011 camaro SS that I wide bodied had basic engine mods but the pool of people who wanted a wide body camaro was small

[@mikegtv6164]

Facts. Sold my one jp owner one us owner 94 Silvia 63k with og paint in a rare color 600ish made . “Tastefully modded” nismo old logo exhaust and cluster, hks coils, sway bars and some poly bits and volk touring Evo’s. I ended up putting car back to close stock before it sold. Only aftermarket thing left was hks 256 cams and flywheel clutch setup (mild).

[@lieutenantdan8170]

Every car I've sold I have de-modded as much as possible

[@troysbucket]

If the car has CarPlay, it's priceless

[@e5141981]

I completely agree with him except one thing. Taste is subjective. "Bad taste" or "tastefully" will change from person to person

[@carfriendsimulator9981]

Tell that to Conours d'Elegance

[@jegglz3845]

settling or getting the cheaper option will cost you more in the end.....have a 2.5rs 2 door i had to do massive rust repair on prior to swapping in a ej207v7. Yes this never existed in the states but jesus converting a car has tons of fees associated but it is done. As for the R34 skyline anything not a GTR is trash, driven a few now over in japan(this also caused my dumb idea to swap a GC) even a GTR to be honest not getting pushed is pretty mid, save the time and dont bother with a subaru or a GTR buy an EVO LOL

[@Mika-ph6ku]

How much did the rust repair cost? I got a rusted to shit f100 custom I really want to restore but I fear the rust repair may enter 5 digits.

[@jegglz3845]

@@Mika-ph6ku no idea what a shop would charge, I replaced rockers and rear quarters at home renting a welder. To be fair though if you prep the areas it may not be too bad, I'd maybe visit a shop.

[@skippylegrandgourou2069]

Evo 5 and 6 are amazing cars, not too expensive ($15.000-25.000). I bought a $3000 JDM Subaru B4 RSK twin turbo making 340hp, cheap, fun, confortable and underrated.

[@magnusmugnas9493]

This is my favourite video format thank you CCF 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Murgledoo]

Hey it’s the video I should of watched a year ago before I bought my car

[@Michael_Ruiter]

Me too lmao

[@puro124]

New netgear video 🤤

[@Understeerking]

One of the most honest channels. The dude really just is honest. I like some of the cars he bashes, I think it's funny as hell. That HR34 was booty, gotdamn, its a base model converted to turbo/5sp.

[@glopsnopper3806]

I always window shop the 4 door skyline because I do love them but honestly I’ve never seen a good one for sale in the UK. I accepted a long time ago I’ll never have a good example of one to drive

[@nicechad]

You can always modify your car just keep the parts so you are able to return it to stock

[@TheDave-bn2tx]

Just from seeing it an insurance claims, the vast majority of drivers who have heavily customized vehicles live with their mom. I can't understand spending thousands for a car and not having your own place.

[@tips4truckers252]

One guy had a 93 rx7 completely stock put all mazda speed parts on it 97 spec wing, bumper, and mazdaspeed oz wheels. I was so worried when I saw it stock it would end up the typical build.

[@thomberg8091]

Don't know if it's the first time you show your room on the channel but I absolutely love the fact that you have a Lum themed skateboard! Lum is best waifu lol. And that hello every nyan was cool as sh*t lol. I really love this channel. So tired of all those jdm trends.

[@callumc5586]

I’ve got a stock ZZT231, and plan on keeping it that way! I’m so glad that net and others share that opinion. I always get asked “what are you going to do to it” lmao. I mean no 1 I’m poor and no 2 the value will plummet if I fuck it up with a shitty intake and no muffler.

[@blue6gun]

The way FR prices are these days, I gave up on trying to get back into cars. The only reason I have a Z31 project today is because my friends older brother got evicted last month and didn't want to send the car to the wrecker

[@genshikenguy]

I think a lot of people modding a car, throw away the resale value on things like a different dash trim and sound system, which can be great for a younger student to buy a used car with seems like nothing wrong with sort of a better sound and look. tastefully modded might be a custom steering wheel so it doesnt become burning hot in the sun or better to grip, not like a fuzzy grandmas tea cosy over the thing, maybe custom to match custom sound system/trim like pearl resin stuff like the coolest bowling balls at the bowling alley on something more like a rally steering wheel thats easier to hand over hand or less like a big bus or truck steering wheel for small asian cars. like your replace your pedals and gear stick you can mod those all you want its cheap and easy swap back undo it. I feel if they mod the exterior or body of the car or make a sunroof or something its going to develop leaks, rust or mould where the polish/protectors and finishes are drilled open or split and joined potentially imperfectly its not an overnight thing but its why they sell them off. if its an older car thats modded those will be some sort of issue somehow or deal breaker. you think a simple exhaust mod change from stock is fine but NOPE the engine for non turbos or other things would mean its had extractors or fuel injection remapping for track day did they set it back to stock? is it always running custom tuning? once you get a stock car you can adjust and tune it or mod it yourself but you can never ever trust a strangers mods. did they alter the psi on the turbo or something? stock or gtfo. They may try charge fortunes more for a body kit side skirts when them replacing the stock standard and altering it means no value. So you want it close to factory as possible body exhaust all of it. but if its got the 'right kit' on the body and you want that, well its great that you'll get it for way less than if it didnt have it right? like hmm cool heres $5 bucks. wheel/pedals or gear stick or dash trim to replace back to stock or swap out with something more your style is a few dollars.. i've probably spent more on video games in a week and im poor! i dont drive no licence but i kinda like cars and am into car video games lately. apparently since everythings fake intel fake nvidia fake windows they just re-release ps2 and ps3 games with better visuals im just cranking up the crew 2 into a reality emulation or whatever. i've mostly swear words in the readme file but it tells u how to game better on windows, but for android and linux its easier to just drop into documents folder without device manager and registry keys messing around low latency settings and colorspace changes windows requires. i've saved some registry keys in there for windows if youre keen. I curse at them coz 80s video and tv broadcast camera and audio standards are standard and remastering and publishing to print or whatever standard international standards.. and final. 1:1 analog film to digital disc for studio masters if hollywood trusts it to throw away analog how could your PC run car games looking worse than 90s tv broadcasts or cameras and photos not like the most life like stuff? ask for a HDR daylight 1 sun of 10,000 nits please computer and fake nvidia fake intel fake microsoft give you 1 yellow crayon worth of light? maybe near to 1 candle luemns? the whole OS is the web browser and should fit on some floppy disks boo shame shame shame! anyway if you enjoy computers have amd ryzen/radeon anything or phone and a dolbyvision display enjoy what i could manage with fake everything computery that isnt AMD or my LG V60 android phone and look out for dolbyvision and THX and MQA logos on your everything as the multmedia audio and video both are a waveout dolby ray true audio since forever ago true optics since the 80s losers. workupload.com/file/AjASNDGsJH2

[@casa-35]

Now I completely agree with you wholeheartedly. But that R34 Sedan is actually fairly reasonably priced for a 25DET Neo Manual. That would sell pretty quickly in the UK (even with how terrible the modifications)

[@turtlezilla7371]

The thing I see very often is people throwing in over 50-100 grand in a completely undesirable car or truck thinking they can get that much or more when they sell and I’ll see their ads on marketplace for over a year or two before they decide to go with a realistic price. Also with the MG and Triumph people are very unrealistic on what their car is worth I’ve talked to many MG owners and they say the majority of MG should be no more than 9k at all and when talking to people that are selling think their car is worth 15 or even 30k and it needs a lot done. they also get all pissy about you giving them a realistic or just slightly off their price offer until they realize

[@gonzalodequesada1981]

The thing with mods in a car is that most of the time you ruin the car and you will never get that money back