College student falls to her death chasing her bucket list | Half Dome Cables Yosemite National Park

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

NOTICE: I have been deeply discouraged by the number of individuals making disrespectful puns and jokes. There are important lessons to be learned from Grace’s story. Please keep comments respectful of Grace and her family. THIS IS A TRAGEDY. Tasteless and cruel attempts at humor will be deleted.

[@msmrreckoning]

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[@ginnymurray5815]

You can clip in your cables. This is your choice. Sadness for young lovely girl fell. The 😢😢pain of losing your child in front of dad 😢😢😢😢. Prayers still for family and friends. Tragic loss. RIP sweet girl.❤❤❤❤

[@Mangotheman-u5x]

As a teenager, I initiated the climb up Half Dome. I noticed 1/4 way up that my boots were substandard for the climb. I went back down probably one of the best decisions I ever made.

[@whiteyfisk9769]

Yea but her name was rohlfoff....roll off!!!! Lmfao!!!!!!!!

[@PygmalionFaciebat]

Its probably the reason why years later you are able to write that posting .. alive. It was a wise desicion of you, not to go for the climb. In general i would say - the safety standards for half dome are absolutely terrible. Relying on hands only and on strength, is a very dangerous situation - as far i can see there is no point to rest and gain strength when someone is half way down or up. Its a death trap. I am surprised that not more people died on Half dome.

[@nancytestani1470]

Right on. Your alive.

[@stephend2879]

I'm thinking that sticky rock climbing shoes are possibly better for the cabled portion of the climb and descent.

[@aliensoup2420]

Safety harness AND climbing helmet. The harness will stop you from sliding off the cables. The helmet will prevent a head injury whether you fall several hundred feet or 3 feet. It may have prevented her death. Too many people are afraid of looking like wimps or sissies. Being safe is not a weakness. Safety gear not only protects you from your own accidents or incompetence, but from the accidents or incompetence of others as well. There is no rational argument against wearing a harness on Half Dome.

[@swithinbarclay4797]

Once, I took a commercial airline flight out of Oakland, CA, , about 7 years ago, and there was this family--I kid you not--that were ULTRA-snowflakes, and they were all wearing bicycle/ski helmets, shin & wrist guards, and making a fuss about other people coming too close to them (before COVID), and drinking "sterilized" water, only, making a huge production, that was, after all, only just an airplane ride! Oh, you'd mentioned doing Alta. For me, although I do prefer starting at Pinewood Picnic Grounds rather than Wolverton; it may add about 1.5 miles to your start and finish, but to start and end with a bang, is definitely worth the extended strolls amongst our magisterial big red friends in a big portion of Giant Forest Grove, before you commence slope-siding on Panther Peak's North slope to Panther Gap.

[@Lindleyferchel]

Totally agree

[@swithinbarclay4797]

I never needed that stuff for my two "Domings", late 60's-early '70's. As a matter of fact, after I'd descended the dome proper, doing this hike SOLO, by the time I reached the top of Vernal, I took of all of my footgear, 'cause my dogs were killin' me, finishing this hike BAREFOOT, and I didn't miss a stride on the Mist steps (NOT mis-steps!!). My feet were very thankful. Now, I suppose that you may be the type who believes that folks MUST wear assorted body armor for driving, skiing, air travel, mosh pits, windy days, and to amusement parks, correct?? Anytime you're outdoors, correct??

[@SuviM]

@@swithinbarclay4797 It’s way more slippery now than in the 60s or 70s. All the footraffic over the decades has polished the granite in between the cables and made it much slicker. Going up there now doesn’t compare to decades ago at all.

[@HawaiiGirlAdventures]

I totally agree! Being safe isn't a weakness, it's staying smart to be able climb/hike again! Any controversy in using safety gear is because of a lack of knowledge of using safety gear (you don't know what you don't know). This hike isn't on my list, but if it were, I would use safety gear. Too many inexperienced folks on this hike to warrant not using any! As an experienced technical rock and ice climber, if I did this hike, I'd use safety gear such as Via Ferrata type gear. Having safety gear in place will help me keep my focus on climbing the cable section of this hike. Via Ferrata gear has "redundancy" built into it. And redundancy is the core concept in climbing safely....because crap does happen. And at time 13:36, shows the lack of redundancy in a one strand tether.

[@utube343434]

Let's get one thing straight about the Half Dome cables: It is a Via Ferrata route. So taking a harness and a Via Ferrata lanyard (that has an energy absorbing feature) is not nerdy or weak. It is smart and wise. I've done this route 5 times, each time attached to the cables and wearing a harness. It is not slow or cumbersome. Via Ferrata setups also have a separate resting carabiner that you could use if a traffic jam ever happened, giving your hands and legs a break. I've seen many a traffic jam coming down due to terrified hikers. And, Half Dome is actually more than "a hike". It is actually a Class 2 climb, requiring the use of your hands. I've always thought they should have a "this is the cables on Half Dome" test/demo area in the Valley where people can get an idea of the steepness and what they are getting themselves into.

[@all4mom-xv1hp]

That's a great idea! Have you suggested it?

[@meeomelovescookiesandhisto459]

Thank you. It's so foreign to me as someone born and raised near the Alps that people aren't using a harness on this hike, though I can see how people might not feel the need to if everyone else isn't using one. Here, if people see you not using a harness you'll be yelled at and you'll be seen as the odd one out or a nuisance because you might put a rescue team into unnecessary danger. So it happens, but it's not socially acceptable which makes it easier to be cautious.

[@craigbritton1089]

@@utube343434 technically a class 2 route doesn't require protection; if it needs protection for some people; it would be third class.

[@craigbritton1089]

@@meeomelovescookiesandhisto459 it was created before there were even climbing harnesses; unlike dedicated via ferreta routes; so if your great grandfather and family; grandfather and family; and father and family did it without protection; why are you going to think you and your family need it now?? Not saying it is not acceptable to use protection; and I think most gloves make it more dangerous as you grip harder; and any slippage in the glove reduces ability to re-grab if a foot slips while a hand is off the cables.

[@SongJLikes]

People are allowed to ascend WITHOUT a harness/safety connection?

[@kimcolvin3069]

Another huge issue that isn't discussed much is people who invite others to join them who have zero experience and then peer pressure to them into participating once they reach the destination. I've experienced this first-hand in Yosemite with "friends" who set out on a hike in late November with patchy snow on the ground. Less than ten minutes into the hike I realized that the main group had left me and another person behind. I had no idea where I was going and the terrain was already concerning. I couldn't believe that the "experienced hikers" had zero common sense and that someone who knew nothing already knew that it wasn't safe. My second bad feeling was, "These are pretty shitty friends to treat me and the others like this." I immediately turned around, went back to camp, and spent the rest of the weekend by myself. Most of the group returned over 12 hours later well after dark; they had ditched a guy who was a socially awkward and were joking about it. Again I found it ironic that I knew so little about hiking yet was horrified that those who did left someone out there. The other guy eventually found his way back to camp and everyone thought it was hillarious. I never hung out with those people ever again.

[@barrycox7922]

You learnt from experience.

[@grandma460]

What awful awful people!!! Glad you and the other person were okay. Geez

[@karlfonner7589]

Yep. Sometimes I think I’m better off alone, other times I know it.

[@EKA201-j7f]

Glad you were smart, and he was lucky.

[@yxvm]

bad experiences is the best instructor. sounds like you took the instructors advice. good for you.

[@autumn.melody1715]

I did that hike of half dome with my dad when I was her age. It was a wet spring and started sprinkling. It was scary and slippery. RIP Grace.

[@KM-om1dy]

Mike, so well said and narrated with such intelligence and experience. You're a gift to the climbing community and anybody that wants safety in the wilderness. Thank you

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

You are very kind. I hope the message does some good. My heart aches for Grace’s family and others who have lost loved ones when different decisions would have prevented so much heartbreak.

[@marksauce2383]

There's only 1 item on my bucket list: to not kick it...😮

[@akashajoti6456]

Ok, that is a brilliant statement.

[@Bmg009]

From the bottom it literally looks straight up. The crazy thing is (I may be wrong) the park service says not to clip into the cables to keep from sliding off the mountain. Why not? Looks like a harness, carabiner, and a strong section of climbing rope. I’d definitely wanna clip above every pole. I’m sure there’s a reason for not doing it. The best thing would be one cable and everyone have about 4’ of rope with a clip that will allow it to slide up but not down the cable. Problem solved right? Maybe not?

[@francinemendez5563]

I've been on the Dome. Your information about this tragedy is done very very well done. It's not the fault of the mountain or the park service. It is a true risk to make this climb. Very sad😢

[@r34perpwnz]

This entire tragedy opened my eyes to how risky the cable section of half-dome is. It crosses the line from hiking to mountain climbing if you ask me. I’m too much of a whimp to do the cables. I’d do everything else leading up to it though!

[@georgespalding7640]

One of the things that people forget sometimes when they're planning to make this hike is that this hike to Half Dome is considered extremely strenuous on the upper scale of hikes in any national park. It should only be attempted by people who are incredibly fit and are in good health. And they should take the safety equipment with them in case they need it.

[@aliensoup2420]

Yes. The hike up the Mist trail to the top of Nevada Falls is strenuous enough. Then there is the Granite Staircase leading up to the saddle, which is steep and treacherous, offering no safety restraints. Oddly, my concern on the cables did not involve my legs, but my hands and forearms. Gripping the polished cable fatigued my arms less than half-way up, and I was fearful of not maintaining an adequate grip. I had done 23 years of prior weight training, and it still wore out my hands and arms.

[@danielbelleveau1116]

Do you have any recommendations for more novice hikes there where you can get similar views

[@celticlull]

I don't understand why people will hike all the way up to the base of Half Dome and continue to the top in 1 day, considering how strenuous it is. Seems it should be a 2 day hike.

[@georgespalding7640]

@@celticlull Yeah I know what you mean. Just like when I hiked up Mount Whitney I stayed overnight and then went up to the peak the next morning. Took it slow and took a lot of photographs, but that's just me. I know a lot of young people just do up and down in one day but that is extremely strenuous doing it that way. I think you would have to be in the top one percent Fitness wise to do Whitney up and down in one day.

[@aliensoup2420]

@@celticlull Personally, I don't care for camping - its a waste of time. I only day-hike. I love taking the grand tour in one stretch of daylight. Yes, it is strenuous, but only 1/2 way - the way up. At the end of the hike I can relax with a good hot dinner and a jacuzzi at a hotel and a solid nights rest.

[@westernbigfootexploration]

I highly recommend "Off The Wall: Death in Yosemite" by Butch Farebee. Its every single recorded death in yosemite, and the story of how they died. You will see patterns in the decisions leading to the deaths, and you will become a much safer and smarter hiker/camper/backpacker after reading that. Poor girl, poor Dad. I know plenty of people that hiked Half Dome under sketchier conditions and were fine. Sad it was so unforgiving for her

[@dr.bshousecalls141]

There are similar books written by park historians - "Death in Yellowstone" and "Over the edge: death in the Grand Canyon". These are very well written books - reviewing visitor's unfortunate demise due to stupidity, unforeseen circumstances, poor planning, or just bad luck (or in the case of the Grand Canyon, purposefully leaping). Always is the underlying theme of whether wilderness should be destroyed by trying to make it totally safe versus allowing people to visit places that are still truly wild. The "Over the edge" book has one of the best treatises on death due to heat and dehydration that I have ever read.

[@roadpizza3470]

Such an awesome book!! As are all his others!!

[@Hugo4104]

I consider myself a very strong climber. I got to the base of half dome without a harness, started climbing and got scared and realized I just didn’t feel good about it. I turned around and have not thought twice about it. If you’re not feeling it, turn around.

[@SasaSasa-wy9wu]

Smart of u to not let pride n ego deter u from making a wise decision

[@TH-eb5ro]

Good on you. Can always get a harness and give it another go. Don't always get that second go at survival.

[@Bmg009]

Tell me something, would being barefoot help or is that a big no-no?

[@mfmonthefmf]

Having a harness for backup is a very good idea. As a father, I cant even imagine what this man must be going through. absolute worst nightmare. I pray he finds peace someday.

[@LadyYoop]

You are such a good man for always trying to wake people up! If you even get one...that's a bonus!

[@yogalandawellnessyolandati7654]

This is not a hike. This is climbing a vertical cliff face. Not a “hike.”

[@LowGearHiker]

Well its a hike until the last 400'. You don't just appear at the cables anf the 6 miles to get there are part of the Half Dome experience..

[@aliensoup2420]

@@yogalandawellnessyolandati7654 It’s not vertical, it isn’t even 45 deg. It is an assisted ascent on a rock surface, with a treacherous drop. Nobody talks about the granite staircase that brings you to the dome. It is dangerous also but has steps that are easier to ascend.

[@Torrque]

@@aliensoup2420 Awww… let the armchair fool have their moment. Getting up from their Lazy Boy chair is vertical to them.

[@captaincripple280]

Wrong. Not even close to vertical.

[@laurenurban3942]

It’s mountain climbing. It’s not Mount Everest BUT it has its own unique qualities that make it a very challenging climb than most other mountains. They need to make it safer than what it is now.

[@_nick_d]

Agreed w fast moving weather. At Zion I went in July and it was blazing hot 90-95 deg and 5-10% chance a rain, there’s no way I would have expected rain that day. By 3:00 a crazy ass thunderstorms rolled in, luckily I was outta of the canyons by then.

[@CreatingExcellence]

So incredibly tragic and sad. As a father with a daughter, I cannot fathom this type of intense pain and loss.

[@deew7014]

I think the Dad is trying to blame anyone but himself because of guilt feelings for his daughter’s death . Such a tragic story .

[@JrueThrondsen]

This. People should be required to clip it up there now.

[@dr.nigelcool3771]

You "won't disrespect her by speculating?" Anyone hiking the cables, if they care about their life, must use a double carabiner safety harness. That alone would have saved her. In fact, if they were going so slowly because of the rain and people ahead of them, it wouldn't have even slowed them down. That's the lesson, a very easy life-saving lesson. I know she was a (young) adult but her dad should have insisted on the harness.

[@rebeccabay6806]

Her dad should have also led by example

[@soupnfresh]

Exactly and he admits to having one in his backpack just in case it rains... It was pouring when she slipped. They should mandate being connected to the cables and install more wooden planks like the father is advocating for.

[@coreym162]

Like I commented above somewhere; Have the Harness and Carabiners on it ready for risky situations but, if you have to rely on them for the whole way; turn around. It's not worth it. If only more concise warning is on display then, more respect will be given to Half Dome and Yosemite in general and less people that shouldn't be up there will go up there I'd hope. Short and concise is the only way these social media bred crowds can learn anything. I think the lack of concise breakdowns of crucial information is what is the ultimate killer. Not everyone is built for complex information sadly.

[@waynebinky]

@@soupnfresh He's only advocating for the bucket list location that killed his daughter. They have climbed other destinations that had more deaths than half dome. Action speaks louder than words. Climbing half dome is risky and sometimes you lose.

[@theoutsider6191]

It is possible she was wearing a harness but slipped while unclipped to pass a pole if using a single line rather than double. Which is maybe why the author is not speculating. But for sure the harness and rope should be a given on a route like this one. It doesn't need to be your mistake or mis-step, it could just as easily be someone above you falling and knocking you over.

[@ellyw7201]

I really appreciate this video, especially the emphasis on constantly, carefully monitoring the weather. My first trip up Half Dome was with my foster dad. He had been to the top before and wanted to share Half Dome's beauty with all his kids. But he emphasized that the weather would determine whether or not we got to summit. He would not take any chances. We were able to go to the summit, but there was a beautiful cumulus cloud miles to the south that caught our attention. It was growing so fast we could actually see it enlarging second by second. It was transforming itself into a thunderhead. My foster dad said the fact that it was some miles away didn't matter. A wind could come up and blow it right overhead very quickly. So we spent perhaps 15 minutes and then started down. Far fewer people went up Half Dome then so there were no significant delays caused by other people. Twice later I took friends (a total of four) to the summit to share its beauty. I told my friends exactly what my foster dad had told me: The weather has total veto power over our goals. We are going to watch the weather like a hawk and be smart and safe. Thanks for this video. It's full of wisdom. I hope people will listen carefully and take this wisdom to heart (and brain).

[@gioescamilla5187]

I summited Half Dome earlier that morning and that dark ominous cloud weather was looming overhead since 9am that morning, It had rained the day before so I was aware the weather would be quick to change the next day.

[@gioescamilla5187]

I was well aware that the weather was forecasted to show rain around 1pm that day and the granite was also slippery when dry during my accent

[@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions]

​@@gioescamilla5187wow wild they still went. Also a cloudy day could def mean rain too!

[@M11OO7M11]

@@gioescamilla5187I was there hiking cloud rest I knew since Thursday there was rain on the way by 1 pm.. I asked some hikers if they checked the weather they said “no” I told them there is a thunderstorm headed this way by 1 pm and also at 3.. I feel a lot of people did not check the weather the day of the hike. On our way down from cloud rest there were hikers still going up Half Dome and it was after 12pm..

[@chiefenumclaw7960]

@@albusandrose Psychologically speaking... he kind of has too. He can never let himself acknowledge the fact that risks were ignored or that he could've done anything to affect the outcome. To do so would break a person.

[@craigbritton1089]

@@gioescamilla5187 I don't think the sky was cloudless when they started up the cables; it may have been cloudless to the west; and even to the north ; but I bet clouds were building behind Clouds Rest; which is not that clear when one emerges from the forest. ..

[@PaulCramo]

Stunningly accurate advice in every respect. Huge thanks for your logical, well-informed and thoroughly practiced information.

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Thanks. I hope the message does some good.

[@Yose7492]

I live in Yosemite Valley. This happened a couple weeks ago. We often see afternoon thunderstorms, but this storm was pretty bad. Lots of rain & hail the size of marbles.

[@c.f.7408]

Very sad. My son slid off the trail at Multnomah Falls in OR when he was 8. He grabbed the chain barrier and held onto it before he could slide down. I was right next to him but it was so fast! I pulled him up. He did not really understand what almost happened but myself and the woman behind us did. It is scary how fast things can go wrong

[@lizaattala85]

We are attempting this next week and I purchased body harness and gloves for my sons and I. I rather go slow and be strapped than risk losing my life or worse watching my child plummet to their death.

[@Gilvids]

Thats child endangerment youre doing

[@craigbritton1089]

Gloves almost always reduce the grip and increase the risk of losing your grip.

[@craigbritton1089]

@@Gilvids not true. It depends on their skill level; and if they know how to efficiently use via ferreta skills; if they are not good at those skills; they will create more risks for others who may then go outside the cables to pass them.

[@BlackOliveBranch]

But why is it so important. It don't look worth it

[@stepaukob]

Are you saying you'd rather not die?

[@TorqueDorque]

You are absolutely correct about social media madness. It's vain and it's dangerous to those that have no business climbing and those they influence. Plus it wrecks local popular spots by trashing the trails with masses of people that only go there for the Instagram pic.

[@all4mom-xv1hp]

Everywhere I go, even in magnificent places like this, all I see is "get the pic and on to the next." It's like the only reason they go anywhere or do anything these days is to document it for social media cred. It's sad and sick!

[@Dontfallforit77]

Heart wrenching, heart breaking. I feel so sorry for her and her family. As a father, that has to be impossible to live with.

[@travelamazon]

26-years as LE Park Ranger, Park visitors tend to ignore warnings and recommendations when they want or planned to do something. Common sayings were " what are the chances..."

[@travelamazon]

@@albusandrose ignore warnings and recommendations, whatever happens, happens.

[@xirmanatee3763]

I have shit luck, so I'm wearing a harness 😂

[@matthewstorm5188]

@@albusandroseStudies have shown that, despite reducing crowds, the permit system has NOT reduced deaths on the cables (probably for the reason you mentioned).

[@2010gtoner]

RIP Grace. great upload, well said.

[@FeelHisWrath]

Well said. Thank you for making this video and having profound respect for life and the beauty of our world. I take your advice to heart and hope many others will as well. Keep up the great work!

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

I appreciate that. The message needs to be shared.

[@aksunai-99]

Even a little bit of precip on the cable section of Half Dome changes it from "acceptably safe for almost anyone fit enough to have managed the hike there" to "madness to attempt without a safety harness".

[@LCLand]

Good to know. Never done it but husband has and talks about doing it again. I did not realize how dangerous it was. I don’t usually do such risky things now but if I did I would use harness. I have nothing to prove. God be with the family ✝️🙏🏼♥️

[@badtower4786]

This is 100% true. It’s a very moderate, achievable hike when dry, just hold on and walk up and down. Takes a small amount of caution and focus, but little danger. But the second it gets wet, it’s much more slippery. The earlier you go, the less chance of precipitation or lightning. Those storms tend to move in later in the day.

[@Gius_13]

I'm extremely scared of heights. Once I was climbing treturous rock at a very steep incline nearly touching the clouds seemed. Although i had rope and proper gear, I felt a sense of impending doom ahead and was afraid i could not continue any further. I then took a deep breath to collect myself, hit pause removed my vr headset and instantly proceeded from my living room to my fridge for a cold refreshment. In all seriousness, this poor woman was a much braver person than me for heights and just i hope her passing was as painless and quick as possible. Rip

[@kimcozean9066]

Thank you for your thoughtful commentary. I took one look at the cables and said "nope", as I have a tremendous fear of heights. It is also important to know your personal limitations and not exceed them. This was a very well done video. Thanks for putting it together and hopefully many people will reassess their abilities to do some of these more difficult "hikes", and gain an appreciation for the hazards that exist.

[@HumanityRisingNow]

Very sad situation. May this young woman Rest/Fly in Peace and may her family find comfort 🙏 I appreciated your thoughtful commentary.

[@mstallion98]

A very sad story that all should watch before taking this or any other dangerous treks. You bring up so many great points. One needs to be prepared. Thanks for making this video and prayers to the girls family. May she rest in peace.

[@ScottnCarol4JC]

Great video and reminder. We are working near Acadia for the season and will be hiking Precipice when it opens up. This was a great reminder to me and my family to take the basics and safety very seriously.

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Have fun! Follow the fundamentals.

[@michaelcole834]

my wife and I (in worn down basketball sneakers) hiked Precipice years ago without knowing anything about it. Looking back we were lucky nothing happened! Enjoy

[@jonboatwright7777]

Really excellent advice. May all these victim’s memories be eternal.

[@dorianmerrill]

This video is helpful. We must each learn from these accidents and make informed choices, both for ourselves and for those we share these spaces with.

[@jeskeepinitreal]

I appreciate your wise perspective. I have subscribed. This is the kind of content that can save lives and prevent tragedy. Nice job sir.

[@angelzaragoza9952]

-My sincerest condolences to her father (who was with her) and her family and friends. Young enthusiastic people do love challenges and well some of these hikes can be deadly.

[@dolcehiett9374]

My thoughts and prayers are with the Father 😢. I’m sorry that you went through this.

[@Christofuzz-hc9xl]

The cables are just a luxury on that hike. Those kind of climbs are always "at your own risk ". People think these kinds of accidents won't happen. Sadly, they do. This park has had over 100 deaths within its boundaries over the years. Sorry for her loss

[@christinegraves7487]

My friend was married to an adrenaline junky. Fast cars, cave diving, baseline jumping. Everytime he went off she spent the time worrying. Just as he was leaving for his next adventure, she would ask him what words of wisdom did he want on the headstone if anything were to happen. The last time he went off was to go cave diving in Costa Rica. He told her his epitaph would be "I should've held my breath." Ironically, a valve on one of the tanks was faulty, and he ran out of air with nowhere near enough what he needed to get out. They were also disturbing the silt, and visibility was poor, although his buddies got him out, it was a dangerous situation to be in. When he got home, he found out a baby was on the way. And she never needed to ask him the question again.

[@Yolduranduran]

Our human nature, pride, adventurous nature, etc, blocks our instinct at times. May she rest in peace.

[@SpaklesDr]

In the Sierra Nevada...afternoon summer storms are VERY COMMON. What a sad story.

[@dmerth]

A climbing harness and carabiners are insurance! Climbed it twice. Proper preparations is the best plan to avoid the many different hazards that you WILL encounter. 1) No less than 4 liters of water coupled with a water filter to replenish with additional water; 2) Enough food for energy; 3) Proper fitness; 4) Proper footwear; 5) First aid kit with ability to use it; 6) Satellite communication capability (InReach or SPOT) to report rescue need; 7) Proper mindset that is willing to turn around and return without the hike's completion (know when to stop); 8) Anticipate all weather. Not an exhaustive list. Ignoring these contribute to your or your parties harm.

[@Re3iRtH]

I've done 4 hour hikes on Oahu harder than this with no water. Water is a personal preference and people don't require the same amount. I prefer to hike light. You can survive 3 days without water, hiking for 4 hours you're not going to die without water.

[@dmerth]

@@Re3iRtH without water in the summer in Yosemite dehydration is likely. Ask the NPS. They will tell you how many rescues occur that are the result of dehydration and exhaustion. On one hand you have it but don’t need it. Other hand you don’t have it and need it and put yourself and rescue rangers at harm.

[@Re3iRtH]

@@dmerth How long is the hike (for a fit hiker)?

[@dmerth]

@@Re3iRtH depending on the route chosen between 14 and 20 miles with over 5,000 feet of elevation gain then loss. No water sources past a certain point in the late summer through fall. Most are doing the trek as a single day hike starting before sunrise and ending before sunset. Both times we hiked it we observed recuses in action caused by dehydration and exhaustion. Half dome is said to be one of the worst places to need rescue. Imagine three rangers having to wheel you on a single wheel gurney down 5,000 feet for 7 to 10 miles.

[@Re3iRtH]

@@dmerth i was asking more like time-wise. On Oahu, my rule is if the hike is less than 5 hours, I do not bring water. I did the highest point on Oahu -- Mt Ka'ala - with a single 0.5L bottle of water and no other gear. I believe people over hydrate when they hike.

[@SilentThundersnow]

I have questions. If the cables were crowded, why didn't falling cause her to bump into people in front of her and either knock them down, or stop her fall? I find it odd her father said 'We didn't want to be rude and pass people. ' How do you pass people? Is it possible that's exactly what they did? Did she go outside the line, thinking she could hold on tight enough, and lose her grip? Is that why nothing stopped her fall? I'm not trying to ask bad questions, I know nothing about half dome. But her father's Alpha male Superman look, might not mean anything, or it might mean everything. Is there video of how she fell? How can we learn from it if we don't know​ what happened? I still have no idea what happened after watching several videos like yours. Were her new shoes made defective? If her feet slipped out, why didn't she hold into the cable? I'm more confused than ever.

[@all4mom-xv1hp]

Agree. Any answers?

[@vivian2217]

Agree. Feel the father didn't use common sense, just his own ego😢😢

[@slangley3235]

She fell to the side, under the cables and away from the cable route/people.

[@Belgarathe]

A couple of notes. Those poles are not bolted into the mountain, they can easily be pulled up. Most important, if weather looks bad don’t go. I’ve attempted 4 times and three of those times I have stopped before climbing that final part. The other times, it was cloudy, or dark clouds. Remember that by the time you get there you will already be exhausted. Yes I enjoyed reaching the top but not at the risk of death. Bring your own gloves. The idea of helmet and some type of binder to rope will not work well. It better to fail than attempt because I’ve seen people freeze up on the ropes. I also recommend try to get to the final part as early as possible before the crowds arrive. Respect the hike. Train for it. And be ready if you need to try again. I will definitely go again but will gladly turn back if the weather looks bad.

[@Irish18254]

Old people have a bucket list....young people have lives.

[@rebeccabay6806]

A 22yo isn't chasing a bucket list. They're living life. That is some old man speak for a very young woman. Young people don't think like that unlees they're influenced by someone who does, like their dad. He definitely told a story a tied it with a pretty bow. Why didn't they check the radar? If they did, why did they proceed on a day with thunderstorms? Why weren't they utilizing the safety cable with even one carabiner, certainly not the recommended two? In the rain, on a slippery vertical piece of granite where others have scraped and slid and rolled like a sack of broken bones to their deaths? Why wasn't the dad more protective of his child? Better safe than sorry

[@ArmandoFL]

Heartbreaking, my condolences 😢

[@JCreole]

Early 90’s we turned around and went back down because of the threat of rain…We used common sense.

[@badtower4786]

This is the right answer. So many people are saying you need gear, but it is a very straightforward hike with no gear needed, in dry weather. Avoid going up on the dome if rain is coming! The granite is very slippery when wet! I still think just holding the cables carefully would keep you from dying, but she may have been hurrying and lost her grip as her feet slipped.

[@amyroos161]

I do think the permit system makes the hike feel like a must do if you do get the permit. Feels like you’re only shot. Not good.

[@ericl1421]

When you brought up the permit as a safety factor, it made a lot of sense. I wish they gave a longer window of validity so you're empowered to make safely choices. Like, weather with 20% chance is still considered "not gonna rain." That's still a green light on your one day once per year permit. Whereas a 3-5 day valid permit, you feel like youcan wait for a 0% day.

[@j.y.3604]

Park service makes recommendations all of the time and the people determined like this dad and daughter were to "completing their bucket" list aren't going to cancel their hike even though they were warned about the bad weather or those that come without proper gear Why anyone would attempt this "hike" without equipment is beyond me.

[@ericl1421]

@@j.y.3604 you are not empowered to make safety decisions when you have a single day permit that you only have a 30% chance of getting per year. This is just facts of human nature. Make a system compatible with human nature instead of whining about it.

[@j.y.3604]

@@ericl1421 You are always empowered. If you are lucky enough to get a permit you still need to be prepared, bring proper equipment and educate yourself on what you need. Personal responsibility.

[@soupnfresh]

What magical shoes have superman sticking powers on near vertical slick granite in the pouring rain. You think people shouldn't hike Half Dome if you need to be attached to the cables. Grace wasn't attached and she died. An experienced hiker can trip, slip, be knocked down by another hiker. They are not immune to ACCIDENTS. Being connected to the cables would have prevented every death on the cables of Half Dome.

[@aspeler22]

Thanks for your wisdom shared and the scripture at the end! May the Lord bless you and keep you!

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Same to you!

[@digitalbobby42]

Checked off Half dome last year, its no joke.

[@Darianparsiani]

People do stupid shit and then they regret the outcome...there are so many beautiful landscapes to see that dont need you to risk your life.

[@chrishernandez273]

😂

[@crsp76691]

I only made it half way up and had to turn back. Its not for anyone with trouble with heights. I knew id be scared shitless coming down those cables, was also very tired and i had terrible boots. Poor girl terrible tragedy.

[@badtower4786]

You are very wise to know your limits and make good decisions.

[@sevenirises]

Very sad story. The trauma her dad must have experienced standing there as she slipped past him is unimaginable.

[@loridavis5699]

The trauma she must have experienced outweighs his I am certain

[@sevenirises]

@@loridavis5699 Hers ended....his hasn't.

[@isabellind1292]

@@sevenirises Nah, if it's not bad enough they built bells & whistles railings & aids to assist people who want to do stuff that wants to kill them but this dad wants to raise money to improve upon and assist them in their high risk activities and next they'll be raising money to build stairs to the top of Mt Everest...woo hoo!

[@ssssjjjhhhh]

He didn't even look bothered in the interview I saw. I wouldn't be able to string a sentence together talking about my daughters passing. Jeez

[@isabellindlind]

@@ssssjjjhhhh It's bad enough that they've had to mess w/our natural environment in order to facilitate making it easier to participate in high risk activities that want to kill you w/man-made bells & whistles railings & climbing aids to get you to the top but this father thinks the most important thing to do now is to raise money in order to make it easier for people to participate in risking their lives for an adventure to the top of this rock! What does he want? Stairs carved into the rock all the way to the top? Shall we conquer Mt Everest next and build stairs to the top of the mountain? These people would never do this if they were the last people on the planet because no one would be around to applaud them and give them a pat on the back! Leave our natural world alone, people! If you want to do stuff that wants to kill you, have at it!

[@SteveJones379]

Very sad this has happened, again. But we must keep wild spaces wild, that's the beauty of the wilderness.

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Amen.

[@fedorpravov5372]

The cables and steps already changed this wild space into less wild. The safety harness on the climbers won't this place less beautiful.

[@SteveJones379]

@@fedorpravov5372 if you're saying people should wear a harness, i agree. ☮

[@LorenWinzeler]

The Mist Trail and waterfalls on the way to halfdome are more dangerous than scrambling up,down the cables.

[@nogames8982]

I’m sorry she passed away. But I have serious issue with her dad saying that they need to make it safer. I’m sorry, you are in nature. If you want safety sit on your couch. You’re not gonna ruin nature just because you want a safe little trip up the mountain.

[@psychcowboy1]

Parks staff have an obligation to safety of all visitors. Parks staff should provide waist belt and carabiner supply at base of chains; use and return. There should also be more bolts on snake dike route.

[@kevinr5187]

If you look at it that way they already did ruin it, but installing the cables and pipes.........right? So why not make it safer than the current system?

[@nogames8982]

@@kevinr5187 I admit that it’s already ruined but why make it even worse? Tear the whole damn thing down is fine with me. take all the man-made parts off of it and don’t let people do it. People want an amusement park ride. They forget that nature is not forgiven or safe. people go on vacation and they lose every ounce of common sense they might’ve had.

[@nogames8982]

@@psychcowboy1 yes, they can hand it out and instruct people to use it, but they can’t make them use it. You can’t fix stupid. I would be fine with them handing that out teaching people how to use it but that’s as far as it goes. But you know damn well that this dad will probably sue. Because that’s how it works in our country.

[@soupnfresh]

Lol ruin nature? What does that even mean. You're so mad because the father wants extra wooden planks installed. Really? You're something else. And newsflash they already ruined Half Dome when they installed the cable system. Why aren't you complaining about that.

[@Jennifer.335]

How are NONE of these people using cable attachments while climbing?!?? And to think such a SIMPLE thing could have prevented this tragedy entirely! 🙄 Apparently, common sense isn't so common after all!

[@Willow115.34]

They discourage it! That's why. I've heard from visitors that even park rangers say not to use attachments. It slows people down, and there is some mad claim that it makes it more dangerous? It's not the visitors' fault, there's some idiotic line of thinking in the culture there.

[@Darksky600]

Wet weather, slippery rocks, no safety harness. Dangerous climb.

[@Richard-il6wc]

Yup. Someone didn't think this out too well. Safety equipment should have been brought.

[@brucesmith9144]

New footwear. Wonder if insufficient time to break them in contributed to loss of footing.

[@all4mom-xv1hp]

@@brucesmith9144 , and why did she lose her grip on the cables? The hand grips shown at 09:54 are exactly wrong (letting go at the same time); it should be a first right, then left thing.

[@iloveislandlifekeywest]

God bless Grace and her family. I hope they find peace.

[@cebedojames]

Ive hiked half dome in 2009 when there were no permits. I remember it being very dangerous. what was dangerous to me were some people going down way too fast. and if they fall they can take others with them to their death. I think a climbing harness with some basic short rope and carabiner should be required. I dont know why its not.

[@StrictlyBusiness47]

Pretty crazy me my friend and my older brother climbed half dome in like 07-08 and there was a storm that started once we got to the top. It was wild with people trying to go both directions pretty rapidly a girl in our group had to turn around halfway up the cables she was super disappointed and I get that she was so close but now something like this happens it makes me take a step back and think for a second. It looks way gnarlier on video than in person to me but then again my club was over 15 years ago I’m 31 now I didn’t realize how big of an accomplishment it was we did it randomly and in old run down skate shoes lol rest in peace Grace I hope she’s looking down smiling

[@tscully1504]

BITD, I was very in shape experienced hiker, but not mountain climber. Angels landing was about the limit of my ability due to moderate acrophobia which I managed with exposure therapy. But looking at that incredibly steep smooth ascent of half dome I doubt I would have tried it even dry. Too steep, nothing to stop a fall if you slip. I had in the past decided against other ascents even less daunting. But I might have if I had a harness. Used those through out my military career climbing radars. I had the strength to make the climb, but just don't like the potential for slipping.

[@georgespalding7640]

There's nothing wrong with having a bucket list. But when we're attempting these individual adventures we just need to keep in mind that we don't have to complete them the first time or maybe not ever. Maybe just the attempt is good enough. If we get to a point where it gets too dangerous or we're too exhausted then we must be smart about it. We can always come back or we can just cross it off the list and go onto our other adventures. Don't make it a do or die adventure.

[@MrsBazzy]

RIP beautiful young Grace absolutely heartbreaking 💔 thinking of this young soul and her family and friends especially her Dad & Mum xxx

[@all4mom-xv1hp]

He doesn't seem all that upset. I think Grace summiting Half Dome was on her dad's bucket list.

[@kathrynstiles3509]

So well done. Thank you!

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Thanks for watching. I hope the video and message accomplish some good. I’d be happy if I never had to make a video like this again.

[@anthonyjonas6236]

Why dont they put more wood planks between the poles? It seems like it would help prevent this from happening. Dont have to drill the rock. Drill the plank or put wire around each pile and secure plabk to cable.

[@JH-nb4nn]

The Dad said they were warned of an upcoming storm and yet they still went. Silly. People need to learn to practice caution or you are almost asking for disaster. RIP Grace.

[@MrFg1980]

I've been up those cables 13 times. Last time was last September. The hazards of bad weather in such a place is obvious. Ironically the outside of the cables provides better footing(with proper soles) as the inside has seen thousands of boots and is polished in some spots and is slippery even when dry. The exposure is nothing and it's a bolted hike if you're rock climber, but to people who aren't...well, they seem a little freaked out. Throw in a rainstorm, you've got panic. I've never hiked it when there was even a hint of bad weather, but I also had the luxury of picking my day, being in the vicinity on multiday backpack trips with the Half Dome permit add on.

[@TeKnoVKNG23]

I know quite a few experienced climbers who have said the cable system is in dire need of updating and upgrades, and that it is generally becoming unsafe, especially with the amount of people that get gridlocked on it. That said, people get themselves in trouble on the mountain and the mountains are some of the most unforgiving terrain out there. Not paying attention to weather, not having the ability, but pushing on anyways, etc. Most of these stories turn out to be people that are in over their heads and not smart enough to turn around before the situation gets bad. I guess that's why a lot of these stories are so sad, the deaths are avoidable, but people can't get past their own ego or peer pressure.

[@TheQueensWish]

You mentioned ego and peer pressure as negatives. But there is something else. Self determination. It takes 4 hours to hike there and 4 more hours to hike out. You came to do something, to accomplish something. That is what propels many. Not everyone is a blind egomaniac with a death wish. They simply came to do something. Are they following a dream blindly? Everyone must hike their own hike. But it is all arms. If the rock is too slick it’s arms, arms, arms. Arms and hand grip is what you’ve got left. You have to be in the right headspace. Facing fear and moving forward is something in the abstract but make it reality and add weather and pushing yourself.

[@ColMitch-xj1oc]

I am so sorry for this heart broken family...poor dad...I am horrified you had to go thru this...god bless...😢

[@paulastrong9649]

Well done video of knowledge and perspective.

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Thank you!

[@eightLives_forever]

I think the permit system has in fact played a role in people pushing much harder than they normally would. I climb in Yosemite and I have witnessed other climbers resorting to extremely dangerous shenanigans to get a big climb done simply because they feel that it's their one shot. This kind of pressure is not to be underestimated! People train, take time off work, and then have to win a damn lottery ticket. I believe the permit system is just enough to push hikers to go "all-out".

[@register1430]

What great analysis. Counter intuitive, less climbers should = lower injury / rescue rates. Makes sense, lower odds = risk to make it happen one way or another. 15:00 trail route? - wow. Gloves? Look like biking gloves What composure for Mr Rohloff. how does he hold it together?

[@backpages1]

Great video, thanks for posting. Perhaps it will save a life. Hope springs forever…

[@michaelh8890]

Most storms come in from the west there, & when one is ascending to the cables as well as once at their base & then ascending them, the bulk of half dome blocks the view up and to the west. That means while the sky directly above may be clear, an approaching storm will not be visible until one is nearly to the top of the cables. When we climb in Yosemite, we always check the weather & keep a sharp & constant eye to the west, bc those storms can form & approach quickly. I'm a climber, & have only been up the cables once, but imo its complete foolishness to do that without a harness & safety lines.

[@bobzelley5100]

The 670 page book decribing all the deaths in the national park is a great read. Driving and drowning dwarfs all others .

[@Bmg009]

Dear god, it is unimaginable to go somewhere with your daughter and have to leave alone. I couldn’t bro, I would have threw myself off that mountain from grief. Honestly I probably wouldn’t but I imagine he felt like it and we all would. Rip grace and god bless the dad, this is heartbreaking.

[@ElonMuckX]

I’m so glad I went up the first time with a guide. Rookies to Half Dome have a mean learning curve, and if you get it wrong, or reach outside the wires, your not going to have a good day:( We ascended a little after sunrise, to beat the crowd. At that time no one was there to check permits. It wasn’t crowded, but plenty of people were going up. Descending was a totally different can of worms. Learning quickly what was the most comfortable way down, and dealing with the permit crowd coming up. A few of those people should have never been aloud on the cables, or at least had a guide. My guide gave ascenders advice when he could. At the base of the cables, I left my gloves for anyone that needed them. Climbing was a great experience that day, but I have no plans to ever ascend the dome again. When we past the staff that checked the permits, probably around 8am, it was total chaos! I have no experience with their permit system, but whatever they are doing, they are doing it the wrong way:(

[@MoneyStrategiesSOULutions]

Good to know!!

[@LCLand]

@@MoneyStrategiesSOULutionsseriously. Definitely on my “nope” list now

[@sunheri189]

@@albusandroseI do not understand do not leave your gloves behind.

[@electricdreamer]

Always check weather before you climb.

[@robertpigott5312]

I climbed Half Dome 3 times. I'd like to know the details on how you can fall down the face while descending if you are doing it the safest way. You stay within the cable path, go slowly and face backwards. It must have been the weather that made folks hurry more than normal.

[@mommalion7028]

Poor Grace. My son and I are listening to Stuart Gibb's 'Bear Bottom' audiobook and a quarter of it is about how dangerous Yosemite is and how tourists dont' take it seriously.

[@XHollisWood]

My deepest sympathies to the family and friends. 😢

[@carl13579]

I agree that the Park Service is not at fault, as it is not their responsibility to make a trail perfectly safe. But they could add a third rope/third row of posts so that it would be easier and safer to pass a slow person. They could also add more posts and boards in the existing path so that there is less distance between boards - making it easier to stop a fall. The Park Service could increase the fee to pay for these enhancements.

[@breadandcircus1]

Park rangers are not there to babysit the public.

[@j.y.3604]

@@breadandcircus1 Exactly. There are not enough park staff to go around and they don't get paid much for what they do unfortunately, and we see how visitors visit national parks every year and get way too close to wildlife and the thermal pools in Yellowstone, veering off the path that clearly says "stay on the path" If people want to risk their lives climbing then it is up to them to ensure they are safe. If not, enjoy the ride down.

[@reayd999]

Been reading alot of comments on this. I'm disabled and will never be able to do this hike. My personal opinion is that the park service should move all of the posts and cables about five feet over, because apparently it's worn so smooth from hundreds of thousands of people using it over the years. I also think they should split it with a clearly designated up side and down side , so people aren't constantly having to move over while someone going in the opposite direction passes them. That looks like the most dangerous part. Also, make the wooden steps a little closer together for more places to sop and rest for a moment without holding up the line. The cables were put up in 1919 by the Sierra Club. Time for an upgrade. Increase the cost for the permit to pay for it.

[@j.y.3604]

@@reayd999 The Park service is already strapped for funds and park rangers and people whine when they have to pay to visit some of these great gems only to complain. Who will pay for the expense to accommodate those that probably should not be climbing at this level in the first place. You can't fix stupid. There are so many other places for rookie hikers to hike and if this is on their bucket list they they need to know what is there and do it at their own risk.

[@reneeallen5579]

The dad was my former boss. I remember his daughter as a young child. 😢

[@JenKnee423]

I’ve been saying for years that they should make it mandatory that going up and down the cables you must wear a climbing harness with carabiners to attach to the cables. Yes, it may take an extra few minutes but it could save your life.

[@j.y.3604]

There is no way to enforce that with the limited park service staff they have in parks now. People need to be responsible for their own decisions. This is not Disneyland where they have ticket takers at each ride. Park employees have trouble enforcing the rules to keep people from approaching wildlife in the parks and there are signs and rules all over the place.

[@mommalion7028]

9:40 I don’t understand why college students have bucket lists. They’re twenty. Isn’t the whole idea about the original movie that both men were in their fifties and one was dying of cancer? A bucket list is a list of regrets you hurry through before you kick the bucket…. Somewhat imminently. You don’t need to rush in your twenties. Social Media is wild. Still poor grace I know this is a society issue not a her issue.

[@georgespalding7640]

there's nothing wrong with having a bucket list when you're 20 years old. When you're that young you have plenty of time to complete the list and if you fail a task you can always try it again before you get too old. To me a bucket list when your young takes the pressure off doing it when you're older. We all do things differently and for me I wished I would've started a list when I was very young. now that I'm older I can't complete the list that I compiled just a few years ago.

[@markgothard7158]

I agree that saying says a lot about Hollywood. I call it things I want to do someday.

[@all4mom-xv1hp]

A societal AND dad issue, in this case, I suspect. Where was mom?

[@ChristineBassin-l5e]

Dad was part of the problem ​@@all4mom-xv1hp

[@langdalepass]

Well said. Very sad indeed. RIP Grace.

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Thanks!

[@lastpme]

I feel for her father...I know he is going to wish they used cables. Praying for him and her family...and may she rest in peace.

[@justme7415]

Ya i do agree internet travel culture has increased risk taking and unpreparedness leading to more incidents like this.

[@lthrnlace]

You don't EVER climb rock in rain or even after just a couple of raindrops, harness or not. Harnesses on this climb can give people a false sense of security. Also need to know how to clip in/clip out, it isn't very useful if you can't clip in/clip out seamlessly without your hands getting fatigued.

[@HomeInWildSpaces]

Very well said

[@fedorpravov5372]

You are 100% wrong. Sometimes you have to climb over the rain as in this case. Thousands people all over world use the safety harness and carabiners on via ferrata routes without any problems.

[@craigbritton1089]

​@@fedorpravov5372the rains are almost always from thunderstorms; so you don't go summiting when there is the risk of rain in summer, in Yosemite; unless you are willing to risk being struck by lightning; and if I summited in those conditions ; I would prefer to get off the cables in five minutes rather than spend an hour or more with scores or more people clipping in and out every ten feet.

[@lthrnlace]

@@fedorpravov5372 in an ideal scenario you wouldn't climb over the rain. I'm sure there are instances where people do, I'd be interested in hearing from big wall climbers on what they do in the case of rain while on the wall. Also Half Dome is not via ferrata and probably shouldn't even be compared to via ferrata with the current cable system.

[@Superbates123]

Safety harness and climbing helmet. Everyone should always use on this Half Dome hike.

[@DR-fy7qy]

Great set of advice. Each planned outdoor adventure should be evaluated on its own merit instead of relying on one's past accomplishments. As mentioned in this video, it will be a greater tragedy if one does not learn from it.