Colossus class and Majestic class | The aircraft carriers of many navies

We are investigating the Colossus-class and the Majestic-class, the protectors of the sea lines of the free world and valiant warriors of many wars. #Colossus #majestic #aircraftcarrier
Why did the Royal Navy demand the design of a new type of aircraft carrier during the Second World War?
What were the differences between the Colossus-class and the Majestic-class?
In what wars were these aircraft carriers used?
Which navies preferred them?
00:00 Introduction
01:15 Development history
02:18 Colossus-class
03:07 Majestic-class
04:07 Users
04:33 General characteristics
05:20 Aircraft
05:36 Angled flight deck
06:38 Operational use and combat experiences
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[@QuizmasterLaw]

In before Drachenifel Armoured Carriers and Dr. Clarke!

[@Justineexy]

Slighty better mic and you should be set to get more subs!

[@davec5153]

At 6.47 you got it mixed up, the four colossus class carriers of the British operated inside the range of enemy fighters because they did have armour. It was the American carriers that stayed out of range of the home islands because they had wooden decks. kzbin.info/www/bejne/lZWrlXp-hZ2beck

[@Cubcariboo]

Fascinating that these "disposable" carriers outlasted so many of their top tier contemporaries.

[@G_de_Coligny]

Disposable lose against usefulness...

[@narayanpai3382]

My father was part of the commissioning of INS Vikrant (ex HMS Hercules) and am proud of her tradition & achievements

[@Foreseeable1]

The truth is the INS Vikrant was RMCS Bonaventure the brass just swap the ship plates. and sent the rust bucket Vikrant to the scrap yard with the Bonnie's ship plate. The Bonnie was completely over hauled the refit took 18 months and cost $17 million, both behind schedule and well over budget. The refit was complete in August 1967. They swapped the ships back in 1970 because the Vikrant boilers were cracked pieces of rusty shit.

[@jotabe1984]

Some further notice on the Latin American ships: - ARA Independencia (POIN): Had an angled deck but the lack of a propper steam catpult prevented the ship for jet airborn operations, the ship operated with S2A Tracker and F4U Corsair but despite being in a good working condition, the Argentinean navy decided to replace it by late 1960 early 1970s due to the obsolete airwing and the imposibility of improvements (Sea Harrier were on experimental phase only). When it was decomissioned it was offered to Peruvian Navy which rejected the proposal given the airwing limitations. - ARA 25 de Mayo: had an improved deck and steam catapult BS4 able to launch 15000kg at 200knt, somethig that was good enough to launch small A4 attack aircrafts. The ship was a colossus class but the idea was to use it pretty much like the Australian Navy used HMAS Camberra. Argentina tried to purchase A4M Skyhawk 2 from USA but state department only authorized A4B, Also operated S2E Trackers with all the original equipment, which was partially obsolete for NATO standars by 1970s but very ahead of what the rest of Latin America had as ASW capabilities and way better than S2A from Independencia. Despite being similar, ARA 25 de Mayo was a little inferior to HMAS Camberra in both ship's capabilities and Airwing. + in 1978 Argentina had a Major crisis with Chile and was close to war. 25 de Mayo was deployed near Magallanes straight and their A4 were really close to enter combat covering the invasion of Picton Lennox and Nueva islands. Lucky for both countrys a peace agreement with Pope as intermediate resolved the conflict. + in 1982 everything mentioned in the video it's accurated, but it is important to notice that HMS Splendid did chase the ARA 25 de Mayo after the failed attack and managed to be as close as 19nm form the carrier, but the constant S2E Tracker operating with the ships managed to put up an antisubmarine screem just good enough to condition the submarine operations and prevent the carrier's sinking in the 4 day trip from may 1 strike position (at north of the Malvinas/Falklands) into port. By 1983 the adition of Super Etendards bring the problem that the heavier jets damaged rear elevator so it had to be welded to the fly deck, and by 1986 to 1988 boilers had a number of troubles which forced the ship into port. A massive 80 million dolar plan to rebuild the ship with a modified rear elevator, new catapult boiler and new 28knt ship speed powered diesel engine was developed by the local shipyard Astillero Rio Santiago. The Argentinean Navy rejected that plan since diesel engines weren't good enough against submarien threats because they produced a lot of noise, and went for a much costier 300 million dolar plan to power the ship with italian gas turbines. This plan never really had the fundings and by 1992 ship started to be cannibalized in favor of A-11 Minas Gerais. I should point that Argentina should have kept 25 de Mayo locally modernized in order to have a carrier up until 2010 - A11 Minas Gerais: Was a Majestic class that had a very long life service on Brazilian Navy. It performed a lot of cruisers but had a somehow politically conflicted life. First the Brazilian Air Force pushed the politics against the Navy to have aircraft aboard in a pretty obsolete conception. After that political debate was over the ship's only catapult broked up so for the most part A-11 was forced to have an airwing of Helicopters and S2 trackers. By mid 1990, more specifically 1994 the ship had a major overhull with the adition of the 25 de Mayo steam catapult, new radar and other gear. The brazilian navy also purchased A4Ku from Kuwait so it started to operate those ships. Lifespam was expected to last up until 2010, but by 1999 France put the Foch to sail and Brazil rushed the purchase of the much bigger and -in paper- capable ship (A12 Sao Paulo) so the A-11 was rushed into decomission by late 2000 and sold for scrap in 2001. I should point that the lifespam of the Sao Paulo was horrible, having a major accident in 2004, being in repairs for 4 years and less than 6 months after repair was completed, it had another accident that forced ship into port up until it was decomissioned in 2019. For the most part Brazilians would have been better by keeping A11 up until 2010.

[@davec5153]

At 6.47 you got it mixed up, the four colossus class carriers of the British operated inside the range of enemy fighters because they did have armour. It was the American carriers that stayed out of range of the home islands because they had wooden decks.

[@sasmitadas4866]

The British light fleet carrier HMS Hercules served in our Navy the Indian Navy as INS Vikrant

[@MostlyPennyCat]

And Hermes.

[@sasmitadas4866]

@@MostlyPennyCat Yes as INS Viraat

[@Joshua_N-A]

Weren't those converted into STOVL carriers? With enough experience with CATOBAR, shouldn't India have made the new Vikrant as a CATOBAR instead of a STOBAR? India could build their own catapult system, right?

[@sasmitadas4866]

@@Joshua_N-A Yes they were convert to Stovl carrier to operate sea harrier jets

[@estellemelodimitchell8259]

The downed pilot from HMAS Sydney was rescued by US Navy helicopter stationed on the carrier.

[@Joshua_N-A]

Imagine a modern version of the Majestic built. EMALS and IEP powerplants. An affordable CATOBAR although with only one or two catapult.

[@arakami8547]

That would be a nice replacement for the Royal Navies' Albions, Bays, and Argus, if not a ship more similar to the Centaur class. It would be better to ditch the catapults though, adding conventional F-35Cs to the fleet would be a logistical pain -- that, and ships of this size can't power current generation catapults.

[@MaxwellAerialPhotography]

These would not be frankly for modern operations. Most of them were taken out of service because they were simply too small to handle larger modern jet fighters. A ship this size is not capable of handling faster and heavier modern aircraft.

[@mickvonbornemann3824]

@@MaxwellAerialPhotography no they were converted with angled flight decks etc. Problem was all they were very toxic for their crews & very toxic for updating because of the materials involved

[@tgsgardenmaintenance4627]

Unsurprisingly we 🇬🇧 know quite a lot about something we invented! You're welcome world!

[@studentaviator3756]

An aircraft carrier with an international impact. Economical yet powerful. I wander what the future of the UK Naval export market will be.

[@TomTheGamer913]

Type 26 frigate going to Australia and Canada

[@studentaviator3756]

@Bobo Mbutu yeah except you launch a nuke you get nuked. So thats unlikely. Unless China has a massive nuclear advantage. Also if the Chinese are so damn confident that aircraft carriers can be sunk. Why are they trying to procure them still?

[@studentaviator3756]

@Bobo Mbutu So what im understanding from this is you think aircraft carriers are still very relevant and can be used to enforce a blockade of Chinas sea shipping lanes.

[@studentaviator3756]

@Bobo Mbutu If China is peaceful , why wont it recognise Taiwan as a country?

[@studentaviator3756]

@Bobo Mbutu So you don't recognise Taiwan as an independent country and you want to take it back?

[@andreasleonardo6793]

Too nice video about aircraft carrier's....majestic class &colossus class...its abilities and its characteristics also its history of its first design and made during 2WW...too nice video from excellent weapons detective channel...thanks for sending

[@darshanchhajed4413]

It's great, how you used the Naval flags at 4:11 and not just the National Flags

[@davidbirt8486]

There were eight Colossus class ships,two more were converted to aircraft repair ships and the remaining six were slightly modified as the Majestic class.The ships were: Colossus,Venerable,Ocean Theseus Triumph,Glory,Warrior and Vengeance in the Colossus group, Perseus and Pioneer as aircraft Maintenance ships and Majestic, Magnificent,Powerful, Terrible, Hercules and Leviathan.

[@joshuajwars4271]

Correct David but 9 of them are sold to different countries examples are the following: Warrior was loaned to Canada returned to Britain served in War of Korea and was then sold in 1958 as ARA Declaration of Independence and was then used in exercises along with aircraft until early 1970's when it was scrapped in Peru. Venerable served England until 1948 when she was sold to Netherlands as Netherlands Ship Carrel Willem Marie Frederic Doorman in honor of the Admiral who died during War of the Java Sea served in the New Guinea Crisis against Indonesia but made peace and served as anti submarine warfare carrier which her 3 sisters performed later around 1968 though after a fire broke out it wasn't put to waste yet so it was sold again this time to Argentina and rechristened as ARA 25th of May it then served during Falklands War 2 while the carrier was nearly sunk by HMS Splendid the USS Phoenix Mark 3 which served in World War 2's Pacific Theatre and Pearl Harbour's survivor was sold to Argentina as October 17 initially but was renamed ARA General Manny Manuel Belgrano Mark 2 served from 1951 till May 2, 1982 when HMS Conqueror fired 3 torpedoes 1 went to Boerie sold to Argentina as Hippolyte Hipolito Bouchard leaving a mark but 2 went to Phoenix sold to Argentina as Belgrano Mark 2 gets destroyed 323 people dead Vengeance was commissioned into Royal Navy loaned to Australia keeping it's name then returned to Britain before being sold on to Brazil after a refitting in Rotterdam, Netherlands it was then launched as the second Latin America carrier General Mines it served a long while then in 1994 it was then overhauled at River of January's Arsenal Dock with it the catapult from 2nd carrier was used for launching aircraft it remained until France's other carrier Marshal Ferdinand Foch which got saved from scrapyard got sold to Brazil as the Saint Paul served until around 2017 when it got removed and scrapped but another lucky break though around the same time HMS Ocean Mark 6 serving Britain got decommissioned and then sold to Brazil under the name Atlantic Colossus was constructed in England as well but in 1946 it was sold to France under the name Arromanches des Bains served in Indochina War 1 until it got scrapped around 2006 there's the third model Leviathan is not built but if complete as part of What If it gets sold to India as INS Bold Terrible was then sold to Australia under the name Sydney Mark 3 until it was scrapped later there was a fourth model Majestic was then sold to Australia finished construction and commissioned as Melbourne until that was scrapped due to being not lucky there was a fifth model which kept it pristine Magnificent got constructed in Britain then sold to Canada keeping it's name and there's a model of it Powerful was then constructed in England but after this it was sold to Canada as Bonaventure also there was another model Hercules is nearly complete when World War 2 ended around 1957 India bought the carrier rebuilt and refitted launched under the name of Courageous 1 and took part in War of India & Pakistan in 1971 it then served all the way until 2014 when it got scrapped (luckily a new carrier is built named Courageous 2013). Hermes was complete in 1959 then served in Falklands War wiping out all ships from Argentina until a repair refit was complete sold to India under the name of Giant then served until 2017''s inactive ceremony meanwhile Baku and then Sergei Gorshkof served navy of Russia but then sold it to india under the name of bravery of the Sun

[@davidbirt8486]

@@joshuajwars4271 Yes,except Magnificent was only loaned to Canada. They never took the option to buy her,taking Powerful as Bonadventure instead. Magnificent was returned to the RN and laid up at Devonport until the early 1960's then sold for scrap.Also, Hermes was a modified Centaur class ship,not a colossus or Majestic, these were larger and faster than the previous classes.

[@joshuajwars4271]

@@davidbirt8486 Correct David hence the next ship at India is the Giant originally called Hermes a Centaur class carrier used in Falklands War 2.

[@GeOl011919954]

Excellent video thank you for sharing 👍

[@bigdmac33]

First class presentation! 👍

[@Mewithabeard]

Agreed!

[@nor0845]

Excellent vid. Thanks for posting.

[@habahan4257]

Love old ships. Thanks for sharing

[@olivierpuyou3621]

Merci, excellente vidéo.

[@abraham2172]

A payable yet effective carrier. Great idea.

[@joshuajwars4271]

Correct David but 9 of them are sold to different countries examples are the following: Warrior was loaned to Canada returned to Britain served in War of Korea and was then sold in 1958 as ARA Declaration of Independence and was then used in exercises along with aircraft until early 1970's when it was scrapped in Peru. Venerable served England until 1948 when she was sold to Netherlands as Netherlands Ship Carrel Willem Marie Frederic Doorman in honor of the Admiral who died during War of the Java Sea served in the New Guinea Crisis against Indonesia but made peace and served as anti submarine warfare carrier which her 3 sisters performed later around 1968 though after a fire broke out it wasn't put to waste yet so it was sold again this time to Argentina and rechristened as ARA 25th of May it then served during Falklands War 2 while the carrier was nearly sunk by HMS Splendid the USS Phoenix Mark 3 which served in World War 2's Pacific Theatre and Pearl Harbour's survivor was sold to Argentina as October 17 initially but was renamed ARA General Manny Manuel Belgrano Mark 2 served from 1951 till May 2, 1982 when HMS Conqueror fired 3 torpedoes 1 went to Boerie sold to Argentina as Hippolyte Hipolito Bouchard leaving a mark but 2 went to Phoenix sold to Argentina as Belgrano Mark 2 gets destroyed 323 people dead Vengeance was commissioned into Royal Navy loaned to Australia keeping it's name then returned to Britain before being sold on to Brazil after a refitting in Rotterdam, Netherlands it was then launched as the second Latin America carrier General Mines it served a long while then in 1994 it was then overhauled at River of January's Arsenal Dock with it the catapult from 2nd carrier was used for launching aircraft it remained until France's other carrier Marshal Ferdinand Foch which got saved from scrapyard got sold to Brazil as the Saint Paul served until around 2017 when it got removed and scrapped but another lucky break though around the same time HMS Ocean Mark 6 serving Britain got decommissioned and then sold to Brazil under the name Atlantic Colossus was constructed in England as well but in 1946 it was sold to France under the name Arromanches des Bains served in Indochina War 1 until it got scrapped around 2006 there's the third model Leviathan is not built but if complete as part of What If it gets sold to India as INS Bold Terrible was then sold to Australia under the name Sydney Mark 3 until it was scrapped later there was a fourth model Majestic was then sold to Australia finished construction and commissioned as Melbourne until that was scrapped due to being not lucky there was a fifth model which kept it pristine Magnificent got constructed in Britain then sold to Canada keeping it's name and there's a model of it Powerful was then constructed in England but after this it was sold to Canada as Bonaventure also there was another model Hercules is nearly complete when World War 2 ended around 1957 India bought the carrier rebuilt and refitted launched under the name of Courageous 1 and took part in War of India & Pakistan in 1971 it then served all the way until 2014 when it got scrapped (luckily a new carrier is built named Courageous 2013). Hermes was complete in 1959 then served in Falklands War 2 wiping out all ships from Argentina until a repair refit was complete sold to India under the name of Giant then served until 2017''s inactive ceremony plus David the Ins Giant was originally called Hermes served in Falklands War 2 against Argentina it served until 2017 got inactive then scrapped for museum in 2021 meanwhile at the same time Baku and then Sergei Georgeivich Gorshkof served navy of Russia but then in 2004 it was sold to India under the name of Bravery of the Sun which it uses today.

[@nomercynodragonforyou9688]

What a great sale this was. A good design that outlasted many others.

[@davidmcintyre8145]

This class was described by the naval architect and historian D. K. Brown as an inspired design and as probably the best warship design of all time

[@TheCarlosBrandy]

Not! In my opinion Queen Elizabeth class battleships were, acording the time were laided. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_Elizabeth-class_battleship

[@davidmcintyre8145]

@@TheCarlosBrandy All are entitled to an opinion I merely gave that of a man who worked in the RN design department for decades with Vanguard the first ship he worked on and the Type 23s the last. Wiki however is a free encyclopedia which anyone can alter and as Drachinifel says is not a particularly reliable source. As to the QE class they were a derivative of the Iron Dukes and could have been better by having small tube boilers as was suggested which would have seen them hit 28 kits rather than 24 and a bit and they could have had the improved armour scheme of the R class(indeed the sixth ship Agincourt would have had this scheme). By contrast the Colossus class was a completely new design not derived from anything

[@chandrachurniyogi8394]

please do a video on the Illustrious class aircraft carriers . . . really want to understand why the RN shifted from CTOL/CATOBAR aircraft carriers to STOL/VSTOL aircraft carriers that had flight decks with ski jump for short take off in the front bow section of the flight deck . . . it's amazing how aircraft carriers can serve navies across the world for decades, some aircraft carriers have been in service for more than half a millennium . . .

[@binaway]

A millennium in one thousand years. 50years is 1/2 a century.

[@Harldin]

The RN CTOL Carriers were originally to be replaced in the 1970s by the 60,000t CVA-01 Carriers but these were cancelled in the mid 60s by a new Government as a cost cutting measure. The irony of that is if they had the 2 CVA-01 Carriers in 1982 they would have had dozens of Phantoms and Buccaneers as well as the Gannet AEW Aircraft, a far superior Air Group then the Hermes and Invincible mustered, the Argentinian Jets would not have been anywhere near as effective and the RN may not have lost the Ships they did.

[@richardstout6364]

A narrow minded government (mmmm ring any bells recently) didn’t see any future in manned aircraft and aircraft carriers and thought land based missiles and Polaris would be all we needed. So the impressive CVA01 was cancelled along with TSR2 and the British aircraft, ship, airforce and navy were decimated by consecutive governments. The only way the invincible class where allowed to be built is that they where advertised as through deck anti submarine cruisers…….

[@georgepantazis141]

HMAS Melboune best Australian carrier so far.🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲🇭🇲

[@jonsouth1545]

The research study that led to the 1942 light carrier was not the 41 study as often told the vast majority of the work had been dealt with in the mid to late 30s under then 3rd Sea Lord Reginald Henderson the 41 program was just a reimplementation of existing work the 42 light carrier is an offshoot of the HMS Unicorn that was ordered in 1939 as an Aircraft maintenance carrier

[@tomjohnston3393]

Do a video on the Audacious class aircraft carriers of the Royal Navy. It would be interesting to compare those to the modern Queen Elizabeth class. Many think that the Queen Elizabeth class should have been CATOBAR.

[@stephenchappell7512]

You mean configured for CATOBAR. The ships were designed from the start to be capable of either configuration!

[@georgebarnes8163]

@@stephenchappell7512 The ships have no chance of having a catobar, they are electrically propelled and produce no steam for a catobar, it would be cheaper to build an entire new ship than retro fit a catobar to the QE or POW.

[@stephenchappell7512]

@@georgebarnes8163 You're talking about the old steam catapults. The QE's were designed from the start to be potentially EMAL fitted.

[@georgebarnes8163]

@@stephenchappell7512 Catobr is not Emal which thus far is total rubbish, nor the fact that the RN have zero aircraft for STOVL, catobar or Emal, can you see a pattern there?

[@stephenchappell7512]

@@georgebarnes8163 Both steam catapults and EMALS fall under the CATOBAR category as explained in the link below ⬇️ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CATOBAR I do agree with you though that if you are going to have Carriers a full airgroup is an imperative otherwise there's no point in having them at all In my opinion tranche 3 Eurofighters should have been cancelled with the money diverted for an airgroup

[@nuttyhyperone8098]

HMCS Bonaventure my father server on her i could tell you couple stories.

[@saberdogface]

I would actually enjoy if you told us those stories.

[@dashcroft1892]

The Bonnie - refit before being sold for scrap - may have been swapped out for the Vikrant if the rumours are true. Both long gone now.

[@Foreseeable1]

@@dashcroft1892 You got the story correct, The truth is the INS Vikrant was RMCS Bonaventure the brass just swap the ship plates. and sent the rust bucket Vikrant to the scrap yard with the Bonnie's ship plate. The Bonnie was completely over hauled the refit took 18 months and cost $17 million, both behind schedule and well over budget. The refit was complete in August 1967. They swapped the ships back in 1970 because the Vikrant boilers were cracked pieces of rusty shit.

[@Joshua_N-A]

@@Foreseeable1 weren't the Bonnie and Vikrant had the same boiler? What really happened to the Vikrant's that made the boilers being in such a bad shape?

[@spoddie]

I think you've confused HMAS Melbourne (HMS Majestic) and HMAS Sydney (HMS Terrible). We had a 3rd Majestic class, HMAS Vengeance

[@ianrobinson8974]

Never heard of Vengeance. When/where?

[@spoddie]

@@ianrobinson8974 You know that you could use Google search or look it up in Wikipedia.

[@davidbirt8486]

Vengeance was a Colossus class carrier.

[@MrDomo66]

Majestic class, le Bonaventure?

[@haggis525]

Known as "Bonnie".

[@krashd]

HMS Faeces returned to Korea 10 times? That's a tough little shit.

[@BarryMurrays]

The Canadian carrier Bonaventure was scrapped shortly after a big overhaul in drydock. Word is the Indian navy got it. Apparently the Indians stripped one of their ships, a sister ship, and met the Bonaventure on the ocean and swapped crews. around 1970ish

[@georgebarnes8163]

She was scrapped in Taiwan in early 1971, the ship was never near India.

[@Foreseeable1]

@@georgebarnes8163 Bullshit, the truth is the INS Vikrant was RMCS Bonaventure the brass just swap the ship plates. and sent the rust bucket Vikrant to the scrap yard with the Bonnie's ship plate. The Bonnie was completely over hauled the refit took 18 months and cost $17 million, both behind schedule and well over budget. The refit was complete in August 1967. They swapped the ships back in 1970 because the Vikrant boilers were cracked pieces of rusty shit.

[@georgebarnes8163]

@@Foreseeable1 RMCS? no idea what that means. the INS Vikrant was originally HMS Hercules built in the UK and never saw any service with Canada and which was in Indian service until 1996. The HMCS Bonaventure was scrapped in 1970 after being used as a troop carrier and oiler.

[@Foreseeable1]

@@georgebarnes8163 You dummy no one ever said Vikrant had Canadian service, I said Indian let that aircraft carrier (Vikrant) turn into a huge bucket of rust and what you thought was an overhauled Vikrant was really the HMCS Bonaventure. I was born in Shearwater my father served in the Naval Air group for 28 years, I saw that rust pile INS shit. While the Bonnie was completely overhauled including he catapults. And yeah I am pissed off they covered it up and you should be too. Yeah right "your have no idea" then buy a fucking clue.

[@georgebarnes8163]

@@Foreseeable1 Strange that the INS Vikrant (HMS Hercules) saw 26 years more service than the HMCS Bonaventure (HMS Powerful) since they were near identical ships, poor servicing, lack of upgrades and lack on of money on the Canadians part had a lot to do with it. Your foil hat is showing and where exactly did you see the INS Vikrant?

[@emregungor2986]

[@richardspeed7135]

Built by the British

[@varunhuidrom2296]

First cold war? How many cold wars are there?

[@krashd]

The well known one and the current one.

[@jamesanakin]

Australia should've kept Melbourne and upgraded her instead of pawning her to the chinese

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

Or the United States could have sold some of its older nuclear carriers to like England or France the Big e the Enterprise the old Enterprise Big e or the Kitty hawk class

[@bebyfun]

Submarine or carrie..who is power in morden day warfare.. USA focus on carrier Ussr on number of sub.. Now countries like British, France, Spain, india, china only 1-2 carrier bt alot of sub.. Did carrier Era end like battle ship.

[@chibani-]

I'd personnaly said it's more complex. Conventional aircraft carrier still exist but a renewal use of amphibious landing ships and other types of helicopter carrier ship coupled with the f35 allowed nations who possesed them to perform air-naval operations for a fraction of the cost that a conventional aircraft carrier ( cons being limited aircraft capacity and shorter range due smaller size, carrying less fuel or in the comparative case of US and french aircraft carriers the lack of nuclear propulsion).

[@masterofpuppets7295]

The US didn't just focus on carriers, they have 72 nuclear powered subs which are widely considered among the best if not the best in the world

[@bebyfun]

@@chibani- thnx

[@bebyfun]

@@masterofpuppets7295 USA want total dominant on world ocen.. every section of navy USA fleet perfect balance.. where surface 11 S carrier+10 light carrier sub surface 72 +lot of cruise missile,BM😈💪🏼

[@sargesacker2599]

Carriers are far from obsolete, aircraft have a limited range so good luck trying to protect your fleet from enemy aircraft if it’s out of range from your own land based aircraft. How about sinking an enemy fleet or destroying land based targets without risk to your own fleet aircraft carriers are really good at that. It’s like how tanks will never be obsolete because infantry can’t run over a 100 kilometres in a day without being tired, they can’t carry 105mm+ plus guns with them or have armour strong enough to stop cannon shells.

[@thehillbillygamer2183]

The non-nuclear Kitty hawk class John f Kennedy super carrier it's better than the Queen Elizabeth now and it's also better than anything the Chinese or the French have I don't know why the United States didn't sell this carrier to England or France or Germany or Australia if I was the president I would have tried to sell it to Taiwan for real cheap just to give a middle finger to the Chinese

[@legio-IV-Cataphract]

The mexican navy should build this aircraft carrier

[@nomercynodragonforyou9688]

You mean Chilian navy?

[@legio-IV-Cataphract]

@@nomercynodragonforyou9688 i mean if they want to build the aircraft carrier they can

[@MaxKrumholz]

too old

[@utubeo4r]

I thought only use it after the war. Pretty useless ship

[@krashd]

Which war? They were used in dozens of wars.

[@nomercynodragonforyou9688]

Wrong

[@bigdmac33]

First class presentation! 👍

[@damongale45]

Don't you mean Majestic Class presentation? 😏😆

[@varunhuidrom2296]

First cold war? How many cold wars are there?

[@abraham2172]

One can consider the rivalty between the aggressive dictatorships China + Russia and the free democracies USA + allies as a new Cold War, a nice, big arms race included.