Combat Clarification - Grappler Baki Styles Explained: The History of Japanese Jujutsu

[@Breno0523]

Awaken, my grapplers Redfox has uploaded

[@RedFoxGrappler]

*queues the Pillar Man theme*

[@andrzejwanoski86]

Damn. Jujutsu is just as diverse as kung fu. I had no idea.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Seriously! Of course with Karate being adopted by Japan and being a majority striking martial art with quite a bit of diversity, those two styles are always compared to each other as the paragons of the most iconic martial arts of the two martial arts giants of Asia, but people are quick to forget that Karate actually comes from Okinawa and really only has 500 years of history and roughly 30+ different styles. Jujutsu is a much closer match to China’s Kung Fu as it’s native to Japan and is potentially 2,000 years old!

[@VikingMale]

@@RedFoxGrapplerIn Okinawa Karate had a lot of grappling. When it went to Japan they stopped teaching the grappling side because the Japanese were already skilled in the grappling arts and the Japanese wanted to learn the striking. After that Japanese Karate lost the grappling side of the art.

[@justas423]

I think Jujutsu just didn't get popular because all the niches it could've filled got filled by something else, both in real life and in manga. Want throws? Get a Judoka Want striking? Get a Karateka Want Magic Throws? Get an Aikidoka Want Traditionalism? Get an Old Okinawan Karateka Want Weapons? Get a Ninja

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I think you’re exactly right, who wants the Jack of All Trades, Master of None when you can have the cool, fun specialists, it’s unfortunate

[@naheemquattlebaum2267]

​@@RedFoxGrapplerEven with Jack of trades they will include MMA or a "style-less" fighter

[@andrewrussell1678]

I think you are talking about modern times,it was popular/essential but doesn't lend to a sport practice as it was used to maim or kill. Remove the maiming and killing and you get judo ,bjj,aikido......

[@leoaraujo8590]

Sorry bu you're wrong. Aikijujutsu (Daito Ryu) was the samurai martial arts, nowadays it isn't as much widespread because after world war 2, during american occupation, the americans ACTIVELY campaigned against the japanese people training "for war". This is why we have judo and such, because the japanese had to train hidden from the authorities and whenever they got caught, they would claim that it was sport. This is why we have judo today, because the suffix -jutsu means "warlike" while the suffix -do means "sportlike", Ju-do and Ju-jutsu are basically the same original art but diverged. Aikido and Judo -> Aikijujustu Kendo -> Kenjutusu

[@henrynugent4159]

Redfox could you do a video breaking down Baki’s fighting stance. Keep up the great content 👍

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Yes I can Henry, thanks for the suggestion and I appreciate your support!

[@notuxnobux]

As to why kungfu is so widespread, I believe that is because the chinese government supports and sponsors this for promoting chinese culture. Its the same reason why there are so many chinese/thai restaurants everywhere.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Also, I imagine it’s history has something to do with it too, as the oldest codified system of fighting techniques, everyone’s probably gunna have their additions, subtractions, and modifications over the course of 4,000 years lol

[@edtheangler4930]

They literally banned kung fu🤡

[@zombieeightpack1381]

@@edtheangler4930 …Dude, you really need to study your history. Yes, martial arts was banned twice in China. Once literally thousands of years ago in BC, and another by a communist party that was literally fucking killing thousands upon thousands of people who practiced it. Any other time in history, Chinese martial arts has been commercialized and spread worldwide to an absurd degree. Kind of a far cry to be throwing the “🤡” emoji at people when you’ve got a whole damn omelette on your face.

[@blackpowderkun]

Pretty sure it has something to do with trade and travel

[@mastercharlesdiltardino8058]

Oh yeah, there was an mma guy who went around kicking the arses of Kung fu masters and got ubpersoned by the ccp.

[@shaalis]

I love how exhaustive this video is. It's so IN the pocket.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thanks! I wanted to make sure I covered as much of the long, storied history as possible, as many styles as possible, and as much media representation as I could while also giving due props to the focus of the video, Jujutsu in Grappler Baki

[@justas423]

Kengan actually has a second Jujutsu Rep: Gaoh Ryuki and his style. Sure, his style later gets revealed to be bologne, but it was still called Jujutsu by Kuroki in Mukaku's backstory.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

You’re right, I actually forgot that Gaoh Style is a Jujutsu Style based on a legit Jujutsu Style, Long Style Kung Fu, and other things Mukaku stole! Perhaps something to talk about in a potential Gaoh Style/Niko Style explanation???

[@mrd2392]

Jujutsu is just an umbrella term because in jujutsu contains all combat form: takedown, submission, punches, kicks, weapons. Also Jujutsu might came from Sumo snice Sumo is the second martial art in Japan and Judo is just jujutsu without punches, kicks, weapons.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

This is true, the term “Jujutsu” is similar to “Kung Fu”, it’s basically a catch-all for the family styles in Japan, though Japanese Jujutsu styles all look more or less the same as described in the video, mostly throws and submission, whereas Kung Fu can be in reference to a grappling style like Shuai Jiao or a striking style like Wing Chun. As for the Sumo bit, that’s also correct, as I mentioned in my Combat Clarification for Sumo, Sumo descends from Tegoi which in turn had Jujutsu descend or develop alongside Sumo

[@retroghidora6767]

Culturally the Japanese view Judo as superior Jujutsu and not just some sport that sprung from it. It's not NOT Jujutsu, it's Jujutsu plus. The challenge matches where Kano's students beat other ryuha set off a domino effect. The police and government start exclusively contracting and teaching what the Kodokan is, more and more Jujutsu instructors give up their old school to join up with the Kodokan and get ranked as Judo black belts, Judoka travel the world explicitly to spread the new school, etc. And in Kano's own words he didn't change the name entirely, the kanji for "Ju" in both words is the same with the same meaning, because he didn't believe he created a new martial art he believed he created a new way to teach it. That's all to say that most Japanese people view Judo in media as THE representation for their native unarmed martial art.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

That’s kinda lame, like, I’m happy for Kano-Sensei and Judo, I do very much like the art, but I personally prefer Jujutsu. It also stands to reason that the losses of the other Ryuha are either victims of changing times, that Jujutsu’s lethal techniques obviously wouldn’t be allowed in a competitive match, or that just those schools losing is not indicative of Judo being objectively better than Jujutsu in all cases. Just feels bad for Jujutsu, but thanks for sharing this interesting information!

[@kagenoshinobimono]

​@@RedFoxGrappler There are manga with the main characters that are jujutsu practitioners. Just not well known outside of Japan. Shura no mon (many sequels), Kokou Tekkenden Tough (Tough series), Jinnairyu jujutsu butoden majimakun suttobasu (1 sequel)

[@aluisiofsjr]

Thank you for the comment. I have a question: Is there any traditional Ju-Jutsu left in Japan after the unification to become everything Judo? What I see is modern styles like Aikido and Daito, but I don’t see nothing pre-unification existing.

[@andrewrussell1678]

and Jujutsu minus-Jujutsu had lots more techniques that injur or kill unlike judo

[@kagenoshinobimono]

There are manga with the main characters that are jujutsu practitioners. Just not well known outside of Japan. Shura no mon (many sequels), Kokou Tekkenden Tough (Tough series), Jinnairyu jujutsu butoden majimakun suttobasu (1 sequel)

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I was under the impression that Shura no Mon was about Karate, but I absolutely adore Tough! It’s one of my top 10 favorite manga, but I just didn’t feel as though it stands as an accurate portrayal of Japanese Jujutsu even if that’s what Nadashinkage is, though I’ve never heard of Jinnairyu, I’ll give it a read!

[@kagenoshinobimono]

@@RedFoxGrappler I noticed on the wiki Shura no Mon was listed as Karate but that's a translation error. in the story, the Mutsuenmeiryuu is a kobujyutsu that was passed down within the family for 1000 years. There's a spinoff called Shura no toki that shows practitioners of this throughout Japanese history. There's a ryuha called Keiburyu in japan where its based on a passed down martial arts within the family Amemiya who were connected to the Takeda family. Jinnai ryuu was based on yagyuu shingan ryu. it was actually in Shonen Jump until it got canceled. They mix in elements of the famous police demonstration of Judo vs Jujitsu, and Mitsuyo Maeda's story. I just remembered, on the video game front, the character Victor from Tekken 8 is based on Inagawa Yoshitaka, He arranged japanese jujitsu into a more modern military style called Zero Range Combat.

[@poketheooi7020]

Hey bro, just to congratulate you, amazing content, really well made

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thanks brother, I’m glad you like my videos! You’re awesome!

[@Taekwondotim40]

Name: Tanjin Yamoshi Height: 6'1" Weight: 185lbs Nationality: Japanese Age: 30 Style: Jujutsu Story: Tanjin is an eighth-generation Jujutsu practitioner. With his family's Dojo in decline, he enters the World Warrior Tournament in hopes of rekindling the style's popularity.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

This sounds cool, but what is it?

[@Taekwondotim40]

@@RedFoxGrappler I was just randomly making up a Street Fighter character that does Jujutsu.

[@elmegacool]

As a Jujutsu practicioner myself (an style that cames from Miyama ryu style) My sensei told us the reason of the under-representation (if we can call it like that) is because after Japan pass to the Meiji Era they started to go far away from the JUTSU styles and more for the DO styles. This means that martial arts in order to be keept over time, since Japan's new laws prohibeted the practice of Arts of war your art, needs to be teached as a DO ( DO = WAY) so its teachings are more about the development of the caracter and moral valious. In the other hand Jutsu (Jutsu = art or technique) its teaching are more about improving the technique and war strategies. Thank you for your video, this is a valuable Information. I hope my comment might be useful for you and sorry for my english if is not that good hahaha.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@elmegacool that makes sense and aligns with the historical impact of WWII causing Japan to want to distance themselves from violence and bloodshed, thank you for the invaluable insight!

[@elmegacool]

@@RedFoxGrappler Even way before, you can read on the history of Jigoro Kano (Judo Grand Master and creator) He distance his style from Ju-jutsu and changed for Ju(DO) and there is a lot of documentation about how he explained the style more from a self improvement practice than an art of combat. I appreciate your response. Great channel!

[@Ash-rc4ns5df4k]

This video changed my thoughts about jujitsu after knowing all of this history and heritage and culture .

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@Ash-rc4ns5df4k good! I’m glad I could give some info to help you to reevaluate the style!

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Surprised Gaoh Style wasn’t mentioned much in this video. Like I know the Niko Style video mentioned it. But Gaoh style is not really a hoax. The history of it was, but it was Gaoh Makaku’s personal martial art that he created by merging the Longclan style with multiple older Jujutsu systems he discovered from rural Japan. Creating his own modern Jujutsu system.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@Shadowrulzalways Gaoh Style isn’t really the best example of Classical Jujutsu on the whole. For a viewer that already knows what Classical Jujutsu typically looks like, it’s easy to recognize that it is JJJ and could even recognize what era the techniques are from, but someone new to the style may get the wrong impression, as the styles of Jujutsu mentioned, like Shibukawa, Akisame, and Kaneda are all very stereotypical Classical Jujutsu, whereas styles like Tough’s Nadashinkage or Kengan’s Niko and Gaoh Styles are very atypical for the style

[@nekogammi2943]

Judo is jujitsu from many styles. It just takes out the most dangerous techniques. So you can compete.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@nekogammi2943 yes, all true, although its also worth mentioning that the main style of Jujutsu from which Judo was inspired/built was Kano Style Jujutsu, the Jujutsu style of Judo founder Jigoro Kano

[@KhadijahJoySams93]

Aikido ❤Judo thanks Red Fox

[@RedFoxGrappler]

No problem buddy!

[@gripacademyaikidojiujitsu]

17:18 17:19 gyakyu means Opposite. Gyakyu waza would mean Opposite technique. Which could also refer to the stance that they are in Gyakyu Hanmi- Opposite stance. Unlike AiHanmi which is mutual(matching) stance. Cheers cool video.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thank you for the interesting information! I’m glad you enjoyed the video

[@keithschultz4187]

The striking throwing and weapon arts were ALL practiced as ONE art.,with the emphasis of empty hand when you lost your weapon or were disarmed. It was the original MMA.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@keithschultz4187 it DOES practice those different elements of combat of combat, though I’m not sure I’d call it the “original MMA” as all the different techniques were all just different techniques from different styles of Jujutsu. If you count Jujutsu’s Hojojutsu, Kenjutsu and all other weapon techniques as part of different martial arts, I’d understand, though there were many other arts before Jujutsu that practiced striking, throwing, and weapon arts, namely many styles of Kung Fu that predate Jujutsu by ~2000 years, Pankration which is roughly the same age (without weapons), Sumo, Jujutsu’s direct ancestors (also didn’t use weapons but still had striking and grappling), Kalaripayattu which had all of those elements, etc etc

[@XonixDerps]

I'd kind of like to see you cover fighting characters too to match em with the art they reference the most or is their backbone :y Also surprised Manon wasnt mentioned in the SF part - though they may have been a date record part!

[@RedFoxGrappler]

This series is based another great series called Style Select linked in the description by another KZbin that primarily covers fighting games, so I didn’t want to dip too hard into their content, and as for Manon, she’s a Judoka so I’ll cover her briefly in the eventual Judo video for sure

[@XonixDerps]

@@RedFoxGrapplerOhhhh Understood, and cant wait! Though I'm more into I guess Jujutsu haha its been hard to figure out which to learn for the art itself - Judo is a neat starting and enjoyed Manons mentions of it in her tutorials - as well as now your video plus the eventual one!

[@hypnoticskull6342]

10:16 YES! FINALLY! A KZbinR WITH A DECENT FOLLOWING MENTIONS TOUGH! WE'RE BACK BOYS! WOOOOOO!

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Oh absolutely! Tough is amazing my guy, definitely want to talk about it more on the channel for sure!

[@hypnoticskull6342]

@@RedFoxGrappler Please talk about it. I beg of you. Our subreddit is so barren and there are only 5 people active on our Discord, including myself

[@blankblank6214]

so with jujutsu kaisen having jujutsu in the name is there any character in that that could qualify as a jujutsu practitioner?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@blankblank6214 No, none of them exhibit any skill or ability related to actual Jujutsu. As I understand it, the Jujutsu in JJK is just a synonym for “fighting” or something similar

[@SONY95ish]

Omg! I was just thinking about Jujutsu practitioners in video games such as Kage Maru and Paul Phoenix from Virtua fighter and Tekken respectively, however the problem with the two characters is that their style isn't pure Jujutsu, it's like a mix of something and secondly, I was thinking of Raiden from MK: Deadly Alliance but again Midways never done their research properly and always took the lazy route during that era. Hopeful to see a pure Jujutsu character in Tekken or the next Virtua fighter to even the odds with so many karateka fighters 😅.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@SONY95ish agreed, if there would be any solid reps, it’d be from those two or DOA!

[@isachamidou4488]

11:22 Where does this come from ? Is this "Yawara", an old anime about judo ?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

No idea, just looked up Judo anime clips lol, sorry my friend

[@isachamidou4488]

FOUND IT ! It's called "Mou Ippon !" (Ippon Again) Thank you for you work my friend, i'm a judoka and really like Jujutsu Fighting System (One of Japanese JuJustu's sport forms) I'm glad you made a video about this martial arts and it's many schools (Mushin Ryu is my favorite) Bonne continuation 🥋👍

[@nekogammi2943]

If I remember right yawara is the old name was name for the oldest form of Japanese wrestling

[@isachamidou4488]

@@nekogammi2943 it is also an old name for taijutsu and a 80's japanese cartoon about Judo

[@HybridMMAExtreme]

Hey you mean mention Hapkido and BJJ lol. I am trained in Brazilian jiu jitsu and Hapkido I am a first stripe white belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu and a 2nd degree black belt in Hapkido.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Both are indeed descendant arts of Japanese Jujutsu, very cool to hear about your background!

[@sargetyu]

Will you ever cover MortalKombats Nightwolf with his valtudo style

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I certainly could! I’ll put it on my list of requests!

[@jon...5324]

Anyone know the anime source for 11:21?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Sorry, even I don’t know, hope someone comes to the rescue here

[@demonnox5829]

Redfox is back with absolute PEAK

[@RedFoxGrappler]

You know it, always try to make sure I’m putting out absolute cinema before I upload

[@Diego-hm1wd]

Goki shibukawa is heavily inspired by Gozo Shioda, an Aikido master, direct student of the founder Morihei Ueshiba. So, it would be inspired by Aikido (or aikijujutsu), not by its predecessor, Daito-ryu aikijujutsu. However, there's when it gets complicated. According to various experts, Morihei Ueshiba taught Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu until the end of his life. Moreover, the name change from Aikibudo to Aikido was merely an administrative thing, and the previous name changes were probably just a Ueshiba's will to distanciante himself from his own master, Takeda Sokaku. So, why is aikido different from Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. Well, the core of the hearts the principles, are not. What Ueshiba changed is the teaching methodology, from a technique approach (studying a numerous sets of techniques), to a principle approach (studiying less techniques, but still learning the same principles). However, Ueshiba did change some things from a technical perspective, the most important one being projecting the opponent outwards rather than crumbling them at your feet. So, what about the relation between Aikido and Daito-ryu? They are different expressions of the same core principles, different branches of the same tree. So, in the case of Daito-ryu/Aikido, the distinction between Koryu and Gendai Budo isn't so clear...

[@RedFoxGrappler]

While indeed heavily inspired by Shioda, Shibukawa is typically referred to as a master of Jujutsu. The Aikido influence comes from Shibukawa’s signature technique, Aiki. As for the delineation between Daito Ryu and Aikido, that’s an interesting bit of history

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Can you do Judo next?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Not next since there are lots of requests that have been waiting for a long time, but I’ve added Judo to the list of requests!

[@Anonymous2627]

My stupid ass thought this is jjk related. lol Asides that this is very entertaining. 👍

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Glad you liked the video!

[@danijelstefanovic474]

So good chanal, you deserve 100 000 subs

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thank you! I’m already very appreciative of what I do have, including kind and supportive viewers like you!

[@danijelstefanovic474]

greetings from a 29 year old martial arts lover and amine fan. pls continue work

[@skullhead4003]

Do you heard about Shuai Jiao?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I do, and I think a smidge about it in my recent Kung Fu Explained video

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

Can you make one about Taekwondo?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I’ll see what I can do😉

[@omoplatagaming5348]

Do bodybuilding in baki

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@omoplatagaming5348 I will

[@ken-waidoo6180]

One possible origin or contributing to the creation of jujitsu, that I read years ago, was that Chinese and Japanese monks that studied Buddhism in the Shaolin temples, and settled in Japan, taught the commoners to protect the towns and temples, from bandits.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@ken-waidoo6180 that’s an interesting theory, it would certainly explain the basis for Chin Na in Jujutsu!

[@dirtygeazer9266]

Idk why it's called jujutsu when the original translation is the same as bjj and juju is updated

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I’m confused, how can the OG translation be “Jiu” like in BJJ when BJJ comes from “Judo”, IE “Ju” as in Jujutsu?

[@gnos1s171]

Just wanted to say brazilian jujitsu actually comes from judo, And 10th planet jiu jitsu is just a style of Brazilian jujitsu.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Yes, BJJ is descended from Judo, which is not only a descendant of Jujutsu, but at the time Mitsuyo Maeda went to Brazil and taught it to the people there like Carlos Gracie, it was Jigoro Kano Style Jujutsu, and both Kano and Maeda were both jujutsukas long before Kano adapted his Jujutsu into Judo, hence it’s being Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and not Brazilian Judo.

[@mizukarate]

Study the past and modify it for the modern era.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Certainly one way to do it!

[@taylorbee4010]

Vf has goh hinogami for judo Ya welcome

[@RedFoxGrappler]

True, I’ll probably talk about him if I do a Judo video

[@jronyt4058]

U MEAM BDSM IS... ANCIENT MARTIAL ARTS?! 😳

[@RedFoxGrappler]

If you’re referring to Hojojutsu, I mean… kinda? Lol

[@mus1cal4ddict76]

10th plannet jiu-jitsu is just no gi brazilian jiujitsu. I don't know where you got the kickboxing from.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

From the website of the location nearest to me: “Schedule: Monday: Kickboxing 5:30, Jiu jitsu: 6:45 Tuesday: Jiu Jitsu 6:00 Wednesday: Kickboxing 5:30, Jiu Jitsu 6:45 Friday: Kickboxing 5:30, Jiu Jitsu 6:45 Bio: Here at 10th Planet Mobile we specialize in grappling and kickboxing with an emphasis on movement. Instructors Bobby Rivers and Scott Philips have over 15 years of combined experience in grappling, having competed in and won numerous high level grappling tournaments and mixed martial arts fights. We have programs for all experience levels and ages.”

[@mus1cal4ddict76]

@RedFoxGrappler yea many bjj gyms add kickboxing or mma into their dojo/academy. But the 10th plannet bjj is just bjj without the gi. What makes 10th plannet jiujitsu distinct is more the use of specific guards that the founder invented like the ruber guard system. But over all no gi bjj is an umbrella term for bjj without the gi, and 10th plannet jiujitsu is under that umbrella.

[@vincentfoster6811]

I think the WJJF saying they do Japanese Ju Jisu is a complete joke.

[@rustyshackleford735]

10th planet is no-gi bjj no Japanese jujutsu.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

You’re right, that one’s on me, definitely disappointed to hear that

[@eagle162]

Jujustu origin is not from China, majority of Japanese martial arts or weapons actually do not have origin or even influence from China. Chin na is just a generic term for joint lock it's not a martial art. The roots go back to kumiuchi, this was basically putting your opponent to the ground and slicing the head. Kogusoku-jutsu(grappling with knives techniques) Koshi-no-mawari(concept originating from iaijutsu, meaning around the hips) Samurai sumo(different from modern sumo) Torite-jutsu (arresting hand techniques) use by police to arrest criminals without killing them. Taijutsu was another term for jujutsu. it was not its own thing in modern media like manga and such, it's often used that way taking cues from other striking arts so where's the confusion comes from. "Ju" really does not mean soft, a better translation would be flexible. Jujutsu did not become more striking focused during the Edo period, people still carried weapons such as knives, even Samurai still had their swords, policeman also had weapons like jitte, people even could wear armor underneath their clothing, there were some schools that are known for their striking techniques but they're more of an exception. As for popularity, really likely comes down to judo just can be easily found everywhere(including outside Japan) in Japanese high schools there's a good chance it has a judo club at least, which more traditional jujutsu not a lot of people know about so there's less awareness, Kung Fu has a bunch of movies some of which staring known actors, but also Kung Fu has a lot of flashy movements that don't work at all in a fight but probably work for the cinema, jujutsu has less than of that. Still could probably work through.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@eagle162 While jujutsu is distinctly Japanese, it’s difficult to entirely separate the historical influence of Chinese martial arts on Japanese martial traditions. Historical exchange between China and Japan-especially during the Tang Dynasty and Heian period-introduced elements of Chinese culture, including martial arts concepts like striking techniques and joint manipulation. For example, systems like Chin Na (joint locks) likely influenced early Japanese grappling techniques. Similarly, weapon designs such as the ken (sword) evolved in part due to interactions with Chinese swordsmithing and tactics. While Chin Na translates to “seizing and controlling” and is a set of techniques rather than a standalone martial art, it is a significant component of broader Chinese martial arts like Shaolin Kung Fu. Calling it “just” a generic term underplays its importance. Systems like Jujutsu or Kumiuchi may have borrowed principles from these locking and controlling techniques, showcasing Chin Na’s contribution to martial disciplines. While Kumiuchi (armored grappling) was a key influence on early jujutsu, it is not the sole root. Jujutsu’s evolution was also shaped by Chinese martial arts, including Chin Na, which emphasizes joint locks, grappling, and control techniques. Historical records suggest that cultural and martial exchanges between Japan and China, particularly during the Nara and Heian periods, introduced Chin Na principles to Japanese martial artists. These principles complemented Kumiuchi by offering methods to restrain and incapacitate opponents without lethal force-ideal for the unarmored, civilian-focused combat scenarios that emerged during the Edo period. The technical overlaps, such as joint manipulation and leveraging an opponent’s force, suggest Chin Na played a formative role in diversifying jujutsu techniques beyond the battlefield context of Kumiuchi. While Kogusoku-jutsu is indeed a specialized art, it is one piece of the jujutsu puzzle rather than the sole root. Similar concepts of weapon-integrated grappling are found in Chinese and Korean traditions, suggesting that grappling arts have multiple points of origin and mutual influence. Koshi-no-Mawari likely contributed to the ergonomics and efficiency of jujutsu movements, but many jujutsu techniques do not rely on a weapon-drawing posture. Grappling concepts often emerge naturally in combative traditions and are not exclusive to weapon arts. The emphasis on hips is a universal concept in martial arts, seen in Chinese wrestling (Shuai Jiao) and other systems as well. Samurai sumo was a significant precursor to jujutsu, but the evolution of martial arts did not happen in isolation. For example, sumo and other grappling arts likely influenced each other alongside external ideas. The existence of shared principles like balance breaking and throws across East Asian martial arts implies mutual inspiration. Torite-jutsu is indeed a part of jujutsu’s evolution, but similar systems in Chinese and Korean martial arts also developed for law enforcement. Chinese constabulary arts such as Tie Sha Zhang (iron palm techniques) share goals of control without lethal force, making it plausible that cross-cultural exchange contributed to the development of jujutsu. Taijutsu (“body art”) often serves as a broad term encompassing unarmed combat techniques, including jujutsu. However, historically, different schools might have used “taijutsu” to describe their unique curriculum, which could include elements of striking, grappling, or even weapons training. Media-driven reinterpretations reflect the natural evolution and reinterpretation of martial arts over time. While “ju” can mean flexible or adaptable, “softness” in this context refers to yielding to force rather than resisting it directly-an apt description of jujutsu’s core principle. Semantics aside, the broader philosophical concept of adapting to and redirecting an opponent’s energy applies regardless of the exact translation. Striking did not dominate jujutsu, but certain schools incorporated atemi-waza (striking techniques) as part of their curriculum. The emphasis on grappling over striking likely persisted due to practical reasons-armor and weapons remained a consideration. However, striking became more significant in some civilian contexts where unarmed combat was necessary. Historical records suggest a nuanced development, not a wholesale shift. Judo’s focus on sportification, standardization, and Olympic recognition played a major role in its global popularity. Meanwhile, traditional jujutsu schools preserved a more niche, classical approach, limiting its exposure. Kung Fu’s cinematic appeal may include exaggerated techniques, but many styles emphasize practical applications as well. Popularity is often influenced by cultural exposure, not merely practicality or effectiveness. While jujutsu’s techniques are practical and grounded, it has elements that could work cinematically, such as dynamic throws, joint locks, and submissions. The art’s subtlety may require skilled choreography to highlight its effectiveness on screen, similar to how Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has been showcased in modern media.

[@eagle162]

​@@RedFoxGrapplerno this is not correct.

[@eagle162]

​@@RedFoxGrapplertang dynasty influence is greatly overblown, will you do see some influence mainly in Buddhism during nara period, is not the case in armor or weapons which are clearly different then what would be seen in a Tang dynasty, what the exception of swords even then Japanese swords will take more influence from wanto first created by people in Northern Japan. Chin na is exactly just a generic term for joint lock it does not have any specific techniques or meaning. Kumiuchi is directly the root, it first started to engage with the heian period at this point Japan already closed off trade with China. Actually martial arts culture would evolve differently in both Japan and China, martial arts did not really begin until the song dynasty, in Japan that wouldn't be until the 14th century. Before that people basically just learned the same thing or from a close family member there were no specific schools or category of styles until that point. So there are no records talking about martial arts exchange at this point.

[@eagle162]

Tang dynasty influence on Japan is greatly exaggerated, which you mainly see influence in something like Buddhist during nara, is not the case for armor or weapons, which are clearly different from ones one another with the exception of sorts even under clear differences in Japanese blades will take more influence from wanto first created by people in the Northern Japan. Also why wouldn't Japan have striking techniques or joint manipulation figure it out before tang. Humans been doing that since the dawn of time and was not a unique concept. Chin na means joint lock that's exactly what it's about. it's not techniques or doesn't have a specific meaning. Swordsmithing also developed differently, Japanese smithing is not even actually related to Chinese one contrary to popular belief it's been found more to be related to Central Asia. Similar case with tactics. There is no such thing as Shaolin Kung Fu, The Shaolin Temple actually was not known for its martial arts, that's a modern invention. Kumiuchi is directly the source, it first started to begin with the heian period at this point Japan already was close off trade with China. Which martial arts would develop differently between the two, martial arts not even actually start to develop until the song dynasty and in Japan it was not until the 14th century, before that there was no actual schools or category of martial arts, people essentially learn the same thing from a family member or through experience, so there are no records of an exchange regarding martial arts. Kumiuchi does not even focus on joint locks and does not mean armored grappling. Kogusoku is not found in Korean or Chinese martial arts. We have manuals and they do not show this. Koshi-no-mawari is not a drawing position, it's not the same and not what it is, the oldest jujutsu school Takenouchi-ryū directly credits it and Kogusoku as the origin for it, Shuai jiao is a far more recent art is not as old as claim to be, mainly taking from Mongol and Manchurian wrestling, likely Japanese jujutsu as well as it was popular which late Qing and early Republican era, you even have photos and book translations of it. Samurai sumo was something developed within the warrior class, actually wrestling cultures in both China and Japan were incredibly different, no these things do not have mutual inspiration. That is not what tie sha zhang, it is just a training exercise likely a modern one. Again taijustsu was just another term for jujutsu. Again there is no evidence to suggest that striking techniques become any more significant during Edo. Very few Kung Fu styles honestly focus on practicality.

[@FrancescoDauria-y5g]

Jujutsu Is a martial art complete of origin japanese!!!!! Ok.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@FrancescoDauria-y5g sorry, I don’t think I understand what you’re trying to say?

[@jadewanderer]

It really bothered me how Boruto and other anime just got lazy and copied the Ip Man movies.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I mean, for what it’s worth, Boruto’s Wing Chun seems like someone knew what they were doing, but yeah, it does seem to just be Wing Chun because of media popularity, not sure what ninjas are doing using it lol

[@jadewanderer]

@RedFoxGrappler I'm not complaining about how good it looks. It's just overused and a bit dedicated to fan service.

[@nephiilim]

Anything for a dollar huh? Juijustu comes from Japan. The history Of Japanese juijustu IS the history of juijustu. Wtf is this title!?!?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Anything for attention, huh? You act like there isn’t German Jujutsu or Bartitsu or, gee, I dunno, BRAZILIAN Jujutsu? Thanks for the comment, helps engagement for the video, don’t be a bum

[@nephiilim]

@@RedFoxGrappler you gave it to me didn't you? Next you'll say rock and roll comes from England