Combat Clarification - Grappler Baki Styles Explained: The History of Japanese Jujutsu

[@Breno0523]

Awaken, my grapplers Redfox has uploaded

[@RedFoxGrappler]

*queues the Pillar Man theme*

[@justas423]

I think Jujutsu just didn't get popular because all the niches it could've filled got filled by something else, both in real life and in manga. Want throws? Get a Judoka Want striking? Get a Karateka Want Magic Throws? Get an Aikidoka Want Traditionalism? Get an Old Okinawan Karateka Want Weapons? Get a Ninja

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I think you’re exactly right, who wants the Jack of All Trades, Master of None when you can have the cool, fun specialists, it’s unfortunate

[@naheemquattlebaum2267]

​@@RedFoxGrapplerEven with Jack of trades they will include MMA or a "style-less" fighter

[@andrewrussell1678]

I think you are talking about modern times,it was popular/essential but doesn't lend to a sport practice as it was used to maim or kill. Remove the maiming and killing and you get judo ,bjj,aikido......

[@andrzejwanoski86]

Damn. Jujutsu is just as diverse as kung fu. I had no idea.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Seriously! Of course with Karate being adopted by Japan and being a majority striking martial art with quite a bit of diversity, those two styles are always compared to each other as the paragons of the most iconic martial arts of the two martial arts giants of Asia, but people are quick to forget that Karate actually comes from Okinawa and really only has 500 years of history and roughly 30+ different styles. Jujutsu is a much closer match to China’s Kung Fu as it’s native to Japan and is potentially 2,000 years old!

[@VikingMale]

@@RedFoxGrapplerIn Okinawa Karate had a lot of grappling. When it went to Japan they stopped teaching the grappling side because the Japanese were already skilled in the grappling arts and the Japanese wanted to learn the striking. After that Japanese Karate lost the grappling side of the art.

[@notuxnobux]

As to why kungfu is so widespread, I believe that is because the chinese government supports and sponsors this for promoting chinese culture. Its the same reason why there are so many chinese/thai restaurants everywhere.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Also, I imagine it’s history has something to do with it too, as the oldest codified system of fighting techniques, everyone’s probably gunna have their additions, subtractions, and modifications over the course of 4,000 years lol

[@edtheangler4930]

They literally banned kung fu🤡

[@zombieeightpack1381]

@@edtheangler4930 …Dude, you really need to study your history. Yes, martial arts was banned twice in China. Once literally thousands of years ago in BC, and another by a communist party that was literally fucking killing thousands upon thousands of people who practiced it. Any other time in history, Chinese martial arts has been commercialized and spread worldwide to an absurd degree. Kind of a far cry to be throwing the “🤡” emoji at people when you’ve got a whole damn omelette on your face.

[@blackpowderkun]

Pretty sure it has something to do with trade and travel

[@mastercharlesdiltardino8058]

Oh yeah, there was an mma guy who went around kicking the arses of Kung fu masters and got ubpersoned by the ccp.

[@henrynugent4159]

Redfox could you do a video breaking down Baki’s fighting stance. Keep up the great content 👍

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Yes I can Henry, thanks for the suggestion and I appreciate your support!

[@justas423]

Kengan actually has a second Jujutsu Rep: Gaoh Ryuki and his style. Sure, his style later gets revealed to be bologne, but it was still called Jujutsu by Kuroki in Mukaku's backstory.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

You’re right, I actually forgot that Gaoh Style is a Jujutsu Style based on a legit Jujutsu Style, Long Style Kung Fu, and other things Mukaku stole! Perhaps something to talk about in a potential Gaoh Style/Niko Style explanation???

[@mrd2392]

Jujutsu is just an umbrella term because in jujutsu contains all combat form: takedown, submission, punches, kicks, weapons. Also Jujutsu might came from Sumo snice Sumo is the second martial art in Japan and Judo is just jujutsu without punches, kicks, weapons.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

This is true, the term “Jujutsu” is similar to “Kung Fu”, it’s basically a catch-all for the family styles in Japan, though Japanese Jujutsu styles all look more or less the same as described in the video, mostly throws and submission, whereas Kung Fu can be in reference to a grappling style like Shuai Jiao or a striking style like Wing Chun. As for the Sumo bit, that’s also correct, as I mentioned in my Combat Clarification for Sumo, Sumo descends from Tegoi which in turn had Jujutsu descend or develop alongside Sumo

[@shaalis]

I love how exhaustive this video is. It's so IN the pocket.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thanks! I wanted to make sure I covered as much of the long, storied history as possible, as many styles as possible, and as much media representation as I could while also giving due props to the focus of the video, Jujutsu in Grappler Baki

[@retroghidora6767]

Culturally the Japanese view Judo as superior Jujutsu and not just some sport that sprung from it. It's not NOT Jujutsu, it's Jujutsu plus. The challenge matches where Kano's students beat other ryuha set off a domino effect. The police and government start exclusively contracting and teaching what the Kodokan is, more and more Jujutsu instructors give up their old school to join up with the Kodokan and get ranked as Judo black belts, Judoka travel the world explicitly to spread the new school, etc. And in Kano's own words he didn't change the name entirely, the kanji for "Ju" in both words is the same with the same meaning, because he didn't believe he created a new martial art he believed he created a new way to teach it. That's all to say that most Japanese people view Judo in media as THE representation for their native unarmed martial art.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

That’s kinda lame, like, I’m happy for Kano-Sensei and Judo, I do very much like the art, but I personally prefer Jujutsu. It also stands to reason that the losses of the other Ryuha are either victims of changing times, that Jujutsu’s lethal techniques obviously wouldn’t be allowed in a competitive match, or that just those schools losing is not indicative of Judo being objectively better than Jujutsu in all cases. Just feels bad for Jujutsu, but thanks for sharing this interesting information!

[@kagenoshinobimono]

​@@RedFoxGrappler There are manga with the main characters that are jujutsu practitioners. Just not well known outside of Japan. Shura no mon (many sequels), Kokou Tekkenden Tough (Tough series), Jinnairyu jujutsu butoden majimakun suttobasu (1 sequel)

[@aluisiofsjr]

Thank you for the comment. I have a question: Is there any traditional Ju-Jutsu left in Japan after the unification to become everything Judo? What I see is modern styles like Aikido and Daito, but I don’t see nothing pre-unification existing.

[@andrewrussell1678]

and Jujutsu minus-Jujutsu had lots more techniques that injur or kill unlike judo

[@Taekwondotim40]

Name: Tanjin Yamoshi Height: 6'1" Weight: 185lbs Nationality: Japanese Age: 30 Style: Jujutsu Story: Tanjin is an eighth-generation Jujutsu practitioner. With his family's Dojo in decline, he enters the World Warrior Tournament in hopes of rekindling the style's popularity.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

This sounds cool, but what is it?

[@Taekwondotim40]

@@RedFoxGrappler I was just randomly making up a Street Fighter character that does Jujutsu.

[@elmegacool]

As a Jujutsu practicioner myself (an style that cames from Miyama ryu style) My sensei told us the reason of the under-representation (if we can call it like that) is because after Japan pass to the Meiji Era they started to go far away from the JUTSU styles and more for the DO styles. This means that martial arts in order to be keept over time, since Japan's new laws prohibeted the practice of Arts of war your art, needs to be teached as a DO ( DO = WAY) so its teachings are more about the development of the caracter and moral valious. In the other hand Jutsu (Jutsu = art or technique) its teaching are more about improving the technique and war strategies. Thank you for your video, this is a valuable Information. I hope my comment might be useful for you and sorry for my english if is not that good hahaha.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@elmegacool that makes sense and aligns with the historical impact of WWII causing Japan to want to distance themselves from violence and bloodshed, thank you for the invaluable insight!

[@elmegacool]

@@RedFoxGrappler Even way before, you can read on the history of Jigoro Kano (Judo Grand Master and creator) He distance his style from Ju-jutsu and changed for Ju(DO) and there is a lot of documentation about how he explained the style more from a self improvement practice than an art of combat. I appreciate your response. Great channel!

[@kagenoshinobimono]

There are manga with the main characters that are jujutsu practitioners. Just not well known outside of Japan. Shura no mon (many sequels), Kokou Tekkenden Tough (Tough series), Jinnairyu jujutsu butoden majimakun suttobasu (1 sequel)

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I was under the impression that Shura no Mon was about Karate, but I absolutely adore Tough! It’s one of my top 10 favorite manga, but I just didn’t feel as though it stands as an accurate portrayal of Japanese Jujutsu even if that’s what Nadashinkage is, though I’ve never heard of Jinnairyu, I’ll give it a read!

[@kagenoshinobimono]

@@RedFoxGrappler I noticed on the wiki Shura no Mon was listed as Karate but that's a translation error. in the story, the Mutsuenmeiryuu is a kobujyutsu that was passed down within the family for 1000 years. There's a spinoff called Shura no toki that shows practitioners of this throughout Japanese history. There's a ryuha called Keiburyu in japan where its based on a passed down martial arts within the family Amemiya who were connected to the Takeda family. Jinnai ryuu was based on yagyuu shingan ryu. it was actually in Shonen Jump until it got canceled. They mix in elements of the famous police demonstration of Judo vs Jujitsu, and Mitsuyo Maeda's story. I just remembered, on the video game front, the character Victor from Tekken 8 is based on Inagawa Yoshitaka, He arranged japanese jujitsu into a more modern military style called Zero Range Combat.

[@ken-waidoo6180]

One possible origin or contributing to the creation of jujitsu, that I read years ago, was that Chinese and Japanese monks that studied Buddhism in the Shaolin temples, and settled in Japan, taught the commoners to protect the towns and temples, from bandits.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@ken-waidoo6180 that’s an interesting theory, it would certainly explain the basis for Chin Na in Jujutsu!

[@KhadijahJoySams93]

Aikido ❤Judo thanks Red Fox

[@RedFoxGrappler]

No problem buddy!

[@Ash-rc4ns5df4k]

This video changed my thoughts about jujitsu after knowing all of this history and heritage and culture .

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@Ash-rc4ns5df4k good! I’m glad I could give some info to help you to reevaluate the style!

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Surprised Gaoh Style wasn’t mentioned much in this video. Like I know the Niko Style video mentioned it. But Gaoh style is not really a hoax. The history of it was, but it was Gaoh Makaku’s personal martial art that he created by merging the Longclan style with multiple older Jujutsu systems he discovered from rural Japan. Creating his own modern Jujutsu system.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@Shadowrulzalways Gaoh Style isn’t really the best example of Classical Jujutsu on the whole. For a viewer that already knows what Classical Jujutsu typically looks like, it’s easy to recognize that it is JJJ and could even recognize what era the techniques are from, but someone new to the style may get the wrong impression, as the styles of Jujutsu mentioned, like Shibukawa, Akisame, and Kaneda are all very stereotypical Classical Jujutsu, whereas styles like Tough’s Nadashinkage or Kengan’s Niko and Gaoh Styles are very atypical for the style

[@poketheooi7020]

Hey bro, just to congratulate you, amazing content, really well made

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thanks brother, I’m glad you like my videos! You’re awesome!

[@keithschultz4187]

The striking throwing and weapon arts were ALL practiced as ONE art.,with the emphasis of empty hand when you lost your weapon or were disarmed. It was the original MMA.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@keithschultz4187 it DOES practice those different elements of combat of combat, though I’m not sure I’d call it the “original MMA” as all the different techniques were all just different techniques from different styles of Jujutsu. If you count Jujutsu’s Hojojutsu, Kenjutsu and all other weapon techniques as part of different martial arts, I’d understand, though there were many other arts before Jujutsu that practiced striking, throwing, and weapon arts, namely many styles of Kung Fu that predate Jujutsu by ~2000 years, Pankration which is roughly the same age (without weapons), Sumo, Jujutsu’s direct ancestors (also didn’t use weapons but still had striking and grappling), Kalaripayattu which had all of those elements, etc etc

[@Anonymous2627]

My stupid ass thought this is jjk related. lol Asides that this is very entertaining. 👍

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Glad you liked the video!

[@XonixDerps]

I'd kind of like to see you cover fighting characters too to match em with the art they reference the most or is their backbone :y Also surprised Manon wasnt mentioned in the SF part - though they may have been a date record part!

[@RedFoxGrappler]

This series is based another great series called Style Select linked in the description by another KZbin that primarily covers fighting games, so I didn’t want to dip too hard into their content, and as for Manon, she’s a Judoka so I’ll cover her briefly in the eventual Judo video for sure

[@XonixDerps]

@@RedFoxGrapplerOhhhh Understood, and cant wait! Though I'm more into I guess Jujutsu haha its been hard to figure out which to learn for the art itself - Judo is a neat starting and enjoyed Manons mentions of it in her tutorials - as well as now your video plus the eventual one!

[@gripacademyaikidojiujitsu]

17:18 17:19 gyakyu means Opposite. Gyakyu waza would mean Opposite technique. Which could also refer to the stance that they are in Gyakyu Hanmi- Opposite stance. Unlike AiHanmi which is mutual(matching) stance. Cheers cool video.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thank you for the interesting information! I’m glad you enjoyed the video

[@hypnoticskull6342]

10:16 YES! FINALLY! A KZbinR WITH A DECENT FOLLOWING MENTIONS TOUGH! WE'RE BACK BOYS! WOOOOOO!

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Oh absolutely! Tough is amazing my guy, definitely want to talk about it more on the channel for sure!

[@hypnoticskull6342]

@@RedFoxGrappler Please talk about it. I beg of you. Our subreddit is so barren and there are only 5 people active on our Discord, including myself

[@SONY95ish]

Omg! I was just thinking about Jujutsu practitioners in video games such as Kage Maru and Paul Phoenix from Virtua fighter and Tekken respectively, however the problem with the two characters is that their style isn't pure Jujutsu, it's like a mix of something and secondly, I was thinking of Raiden from MK: Deadly Alliance but again Midways never done their research properly and always took the lazy route during that era. Hopeful to see a pure Jujutsu character in Tekken or the next Virtua fighter to even the odds with so many karateka fighters 😅.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@SONY95ish agreed, if there would be any solid reps, it’d be from those two or DOA!

[@demonnox5829]

Redfox is back with absolute PEAK

[@RedFoxGrappler]

You know it, always try to make sure I’m putting out absolute cinema before I upload

[@Diego-hm1wd]

Goki shibukawa is heavily inspired by Gozo Shioda, an Aikido master, direct student of the founder Morihei Ueshiba. So, it would be inspired by Aikido (or aikijujutsu), not by its predecessor, Daito-ryu aikijujutsu. However, there's when it gets complicated. According to various experts, Morihei Ueshiba taught Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu until the end of his life. Moreover, the name change from Aikibudo to Aikido was merely an administrative thing, and the previous name changes were probably just a Ueshiba's will to distanciante himself from his own master, Takeda Sokaku. So, why is aikido different from Daito-ryu Aikijujutsu. Well, the core of the hearts the principles, are not. What Ueshiba changed is the teaching methodology, from a technique approach (studying a numerous sets of techniques), to a principle approach (studiying less techniques, but still learning the same principles). However, Ueshiba did change some things from a technical perspective, the most important one being projecting the opponent outwards rather than crumbling them at your feet. So, what about the relation between Aikido and Daito-ryu? They are different expressions of the same core principles, different branches of the same tree. So, in the case of Daito-ryu/Aikido, the distinction between Koryu and Gendai Budo isn't so clear...

[@RedFoxGrappler]

While indeed heavily inspired by Shioda, Shibukawa is typically referred to as a master of Jujutsu. The Aikido influence comes from Shibukawa’s signature technique, Aiki. As for the delineation between Daito Ryu and Aikido, that’s an interesting bit of history

[@Shadowrulzalways]

Can you do Judo next?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Not next since there are lots of requests that have been waiting for a long time, but I’ve added Judo to the list of requests!

[@danijelstefanovic474]

So good chanal, you deserve 100 000 subs

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Thank you! I’m already very appreciative of what I do have, including kind and supportive viewers like you!

[@danijelstefanovic474]

greetings from a 29 year old martial arts lover and amine fan. pls continue work

[@sargetyu]

Will you ever cover MortalKombats Nightwolf with his valtudo style

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I certainly could! I’ll put it on my list of requests!

[@mizukarate]

Study the past and modify it for the modern era.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Certainly one way to do it!

[@Wander-asia-vlogs]

Thanks

[@RedFoxGrappler]

No problem!

[@isachamidou4488]

11:22 Where does this come from ? Is this "Yawara", an old anime about judo ?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

No idea, just looked up Judo anime clips lol, sorry my friend

[@isachamidou4488]

FOUND IT ! It's called "Mou Ippon !" (Ippon Again) Thank you for you work my friend, i'm a judoka and really like Jujutsu Fighting System (One of Japanese JuJustu's sport forms) I'm glad you made a video about this martial arts and it's many schools (Mushin Ryu is my favorite) Bonne continuation 🥋👍

[@HybridMMAExtreme]

Hey you mean mention Hapkido and BJJ lol. I am trained in Brazilian jiu jitsu and Hapkido I am a first stripe white belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu and a 2nd degree black belt in Hapkido.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Both are indeed descendant arts of Japanese Jujutsu, very cool to hear about your background!

[@skullhead4003]

Do you heard about Shuai Jiao?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I do, and I think a smidge about it in my recent Kung Fu Explained video

[@blankblank6214]

so with jujutsu kaisen having jujutsu in the name is there any character in that that could qualify as a jujutsu practitioner?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@blankblank6214 No, none of them exhibit any skill or ability related to actual Jujutsu. As I understand it, the Jujutsu in JJK is just a synonym for “fighting” or something similar

[@gnos1s171]

Just wanted to say brazilian jujitsu actually comes from judo, And 10th planet jiu jitsu is just a style of Brazilian jujitsu.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Yes, BJJ is descended from Judo, which is not only a descendant of Jujutsu, but at the time Mitsuyo Maeda went to Brazil and taught it to the people there like Carlos Gracie, it was Jigoro Kano Style Jujutsu, and both Kano and Maeda were both jujutsukas long before Kano adapted his Jujutsu into Judo, hence it’s being Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and not Brazilian Judo.

[@dakentaijutsu2010]

Can you make one about Taekwondo?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I’ll see what I can do😉

[@omoplatagaming5348]

Do bodybuilding in baki

[@RedFoxGrappler]

@@omoplatagaming5348 I will

[@taylorbee4010]

Vf has goh hinogami for judo Ya welcome

[@RedFoxGrappler]

True, I’ll probably talk about him if I do a Judo video

[@jon...5324]

Anyone know the anime source for 11:21?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Sorry, even I don’t know, hope someone comes to the rescue here

[@vincentfoster6811]

I think the WJJF saying they do Japanese Ju Jisu is a complete joke.

[@dirtygeazer9266]

Idk why it's called jujutsu when the original translation is the same as bjj and juju is updated

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I’m confused, how can the OG translation be “Jiu” like in BJJ when BJJ comes from “Judo”, IE “Ju” as in Jujutsu?

[@jronyt4058]

U MEAM BDSM IS... ANCIENT MARTIAL ARTS?! 😳

[@RedFoxGrappler]

If you’re referring to Hojojutsu, I mean… kinda? Lol

[@rustyshackleford735]

10th planet is no-gi bjj no Japanese jujutsu.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

You’re right, that one’s on me, definitely disappointed to hear that

[@mus1cal4ddict76]

10th plannet jiu-jitsu is just no gi brazilian jiujitsu. I don't know where you got the kickboxing from.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

From the website of the location nearest to me: “Schedule: Monday: Kickboxing 5:30, Jiu jitsu: 6:45 Tuesday: Jiu Jitsu 6:00 Wednesday: Kickboxing 5:30, Jiu Jitsu 6:45 Friday: Kickboxing 5:30, Jiu Jitsu 6:45 Bio: Here at 10th Planet Mobile we specialize in grappling and kickboxing with an emphasis on movement. Instructors Bobby Rivers and Scott Philips have over 15 years of combined experience in grappling, having competed in and won numerous high level grappling tournaments and mixed martial arts fights. We have programs for all experience levels and ages.”

[@mus1cal4ddict76]

@RedFoxGrappler yea many bjj gyms add kickboxing or mma into their dojo/academy. But the 10th plannet bjj is just bjj without the gi. What makes 10th plannet jiujitsu distinct is more the use of specific guards that the founder invented like the ruber guard system. But over all no gi bjj is an umbrella term for bjj without the gi, and 10th plannet jiujitsu is under that umbrella.

[@jadeplanet]

It really bothered me how Boruto and other anime just got lazy and copied the Ip Man movies.

[@RedFoxGrappler]

I mean, for what it’s worth, Boruto’s Wing Chun seems like someone knew what they were doing, but yeah, it does seem to just be Wing Chun because of media popularity, not sure what ninjas are doing using it lol

[@jadeplanet]

@RedFoxGrappler I'm not complaining about how good it looks. It's just overused and a bit dedicated to fan service.

[@nephiilim]

Anything for a dollar huh? Juijustu comes from Japan. The history Of Japanese juijustu IS the history of juijustu. Wtf is this title!?!?

[@RedFoxGrappler]

Anything for attention, huh? You act like there isn’t German Jujutsu or Bartitsu or, gee, I dunno, BRAZILIAN Jujutsu? Thanks for the comment, helps engagement for the video, don’t be a bum

[@nephiilim]

@@RedFoxGrappler you gave it to me didn't you? Next you'll say rock and roll comes from England