CombatCon 2016 Longsword Finals

[@kkgauthier]

I watch a lot of this stuff, and I have to say that this clip represents some of the best control, execution and chivalrous behavior that I've had the pleasure to witness.

[@baxskopog2375]

But how can they be chivalrous without horses?

[@ToryuMau]

By hitching on iron steeds calledeth "The Choppers" and throwing pommels at passersby. LoL

[@bruceketta856]

I've never seen such a healthy atmosphere among participants in a fighting sport like this

[@assassintwinat8]

I love how someone brought their child to CombatCon

[@aurourus6894]

Teach em' young.

[@TheCombatCon]

Actually, CombatCon is kid friendly. There's so much to do that you can bring the family or spend all day and never interact with children.

[@Draaguoh]

the floor in thisd room is insanely nice

[@TheCombatCon]

We agree! If you look back to the Riviera videos in 2014 it's hard to watch too long because of the carpet!

[@tonyh978]

Great good quality video, thanks for uploading. The only 1 nitpick thing I have to say is that I like to watch these videos at 1/2 or 1/4 speed to watch for some of the hard to miss details on guards and strikes at full speed and the camera angles seem to change the moment someone starts to step into an attack a few times. It would be nice if the editing was done in such a way that camera angles would change in idle positions. Again this is a nitpicky thing but something I wanted to mention. As far as the fighters, I really enjoy blood and iron's videos normally and enjoy their style generally. Some of that shines here and really enjoyed watching.

[@TheCombatCon]

Thanks for the feedback, we'll keep that in mind!

[@colosseer4184]

Watching this in 2022, I think it's incredibly healthy that they started punishing people for doublestrikes. It makes the whole thing much more delicate

[@jacobd4421]

Slow motion replays would be awesome!

[@TheCombatCon]

Yes it would! We'll put a bug in the editors ear for 2017 :)

[@nicktheeskrimador1486]

Just a personal opinion, but I think it'd be neat if we got slow motion replays during the breaks. There are a lot of points where the judges confer or they're breaking to determine the point, a slo-mo recap (possibly with indicators for the strikes) could go a long way to helping understand and appreciate what just happened.

[@Yeinbrain16]

At 6:54 get a room, you two in the back! lmao good fights, love me some Blood and Iron.

[@Simon-lq5uk]

What the fuck I just noticed. Of all the places you could get frisky I didn’t expect a HEMA convention to be on the list. 😂

[@cmoralesmsae]

Hahaha

[@disavowed44]

1.543/20.543 Did not end opponent rightly.

[@HollywoodMarine92]

Great fight! Wish there was some slow motion replays though that highlights the strikes.

[@noblereign492]

Indeed...

[@dennisebert8787]

What`s with that guy saying indeed for like 15 times :D

[@WhiteWolf-md7ro]

PredatorHD r indeed

[@alskndlaskndal]

The color calibration is really different between the two cameras. In one shot, the judges are wearing light blue shirts, in the other they're purple.

[@wcsdiaries]

Are you alowed to strike with the pommel or throw punches ?

[@TheCombatCon]

Pommel strikes with control are allowed. Check out the rules at www.combatcon.com/2018-2/what-to-do/2018-tournament-rules/

[@defaultset]

@@TheCombatCon Y'all. Can you do warfare duels? Like how original knights fought with wrestling and shit

[@natanaelrodriguez9580]

@@defaultset to feed your interest, i recommend checking out the IMCF tournaments. They host events of upwards to 20v20 heats to more skill barring 1v1 matches

[@jkphilosophy101]

OMG what a beautiful place

[@jsthecanuck6804]

"Lmao none of deez kids know how to guard break, can't even push em off a ledge smh"

[@WhiteWolf-md7ro]

JD64E that a souls reference? if so gg

[@deathmetalhell]

liked

[@FlyingFlows]

i would say its about for honor

[@MercenaryJames]

Was waiting for a Top Counter Crush myself. All those top lights and all I'm thinking is "just light back!"

[@physical_insanity]

Fricken light spammers.

[@Judicial78]

8:36 And that is why you should practice cutting in the abzug.

[@neilbuac230]

But can they beat Ser Arthur Dayne..?

[@Kiwanja]

The Game of Thrones 'swordsmen' are really slow compared to the best HEMA longsword fighters. Most of the time they look like they're pretending to lug around a huge log of wood, when a proper longsword doesn't weigh more than 1-2kg(2-4lbs).

[@xieulong]

Easily.

[@MrKevlarkent]

I'm kinda new to this, but i noticed from watching other videos that the scoring system in these matches are quite different from in other tournaments, how come?

[@TheCombatCon]

It all depends on what you have been looking at. The best answers will come from the Tournament Directors and you can reach them at [e-mail]

[@ImperatorClass]

This is disgusting, none of them deserve adulation. Not ONCE did they try to end them rightly!

[@RandomAllen]

What the fuck are you talking about??? You don't want them to destroy the building and surrounding city do you??? The power to destroy a planet is nothing compared to the power of pommels!

[@RandomAllen]

You ruined it....you ruined and I'm leaving!

[@airahfuji]

Jesse Watt A pommel is what they're missing in this show 😂

[@dannycheek8118]

End him rightly.

[@dannya5690]

Tf, the judges' shirt is blue in one camera then purple in another.. M'kay

[@jeremyharmison8173]

Angles and lighting my friend.

[@matthewarnall8781]

Indeed

[@airshipmayhem9905]

Is half swording not allowed

[@TheCombatCon]

Good question. The rules are online at combatcon.com so we recommend checking them out.

[@darthplagueis13]

Honestly, I think the judge with the Quarterstaff is by far the scariest person in the room. He'd beat the breaks off those longsword wielders if he felt like it.

[@defaultset]

Imagine if this is official with scary looking dudes with larp swords in peasant attire. They'll have knight's physique as well

[@nexusnova6852]

Does this tournament allow headshots?

[@hdckdsadd]

I think combat would look very different when real stakes were in play like one's life. How I wish I would travel back in time to see some real sword fighting... :)

[@TheCombatCon]

We're hoping that if enough like minded people come together in Vegas for CombatCon that we can make that happen :)

[@deafsmith1006]

I have no doubt when betting ones life that combat, any form of combat, is quite different than what is practice in a dujo/dojang/studio unless you are suicidal. For one knows that there will be no replay if a mistake is made.

[@davidroman4780]

There is a event in Czech republic every year , its called Battle of Libušín , i suggest you czech that out (da bum tss)

[@hdckdsadd]

so how many die annually at that event?

[@WhiteWolf-md7ro]

hdckdsadd lol, the thirst for blood is real

[@knyghtmordhaus9170]

YEAAAAH SEAAAN

[@TheCombatCon]

Thanks so much for the feedback on 2016! You will notice many of the ideas put forward incorporated in to the 2017 videos. Check out the 2017 Steel Finals here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sGHMkGanmrl8jsk

[@lambeefbiryani08]

Hi dude, I'm a loser, and I wanna lean sword fighting,, which good? Rapier or Longsword??

[@e_wa.n5036]

preference mostly.

[@jessicajacobs7408]

Did Anthony Delongis compete?

[@TheCombatCon]

No, he did not

[@KanaraVeluna]

Damn it. I wish some of this would come to argentina. All my life i've been wanted todo fight against a worthy opponent. Or at least watch a fight

[@riunda9430]

Hola, se que tu comentario fue hace 2 años pero quizá llegues a leerlo. Yo también soy argentino. Hay algunos clubes de hema (o wma) en Argentina, la última vez que me fijé, existían 3, todos en distintas provincias, investigá que por ahí tenés suerte y hay alguno no muy lejos de donde vivís.

[@KanaraVeluna]

@@riunda9430 Como pasa el tiempo... Hace bastante estuve investigando, y el mas cercano creo que estaba en córdoba (vivo en Río Negro), así que por ahora no es una opción. Eso sí, muchas gracias por la respuesta amigo.

[@riunda9430]

@@KanaraVeluna Uh que lástima, si, la tenés media imposible. Igual si te sigue interesando HEMA podrías practicar quarterstaff, hay muchos videos y tenés la posibilidad de descargar los manuales originales de Inglaterra donde era muy popular. Y bueno también tenés arquería de última jajaja.

[@nielztoy01]

Is the stick traditional? Or is that just a style thing? Lol

[@deijavoodoo366]

nielztoy01 not sure if its traditional but it's not just for show either. These guys have real steel weapons, if the referee needs to jump in between the 2 for whatever reason the last thing you want is for the unarmoured guy getting smashed with one. The stick is there to help break up the opponents should they need it.

[@CaballeroDeOtono]

2:10 i dont understand. Franklin didnt touch kime in this move...

[@chilibeer3912]

indeed

[@EdouardPicard0224]

that outro.

[@jthewelshwarlord6331]

What score would be given to using the sawing/head lock technique in Fiore's close plays?

[@wufongtanwufong5579]

Refs 5x more time in the middle than the fighters. 1 second of sword play, followed by 10 seconds of ref rambling.

[@sapherno11]

Something I notice, and this could just be me not used to watching Longsword combat, but it seems like a lot of the fighters are very...hesitant, if that makes sense? Like, they are being more cautious then I would have thought with it being the final round of a Tournament.

[@Kiwanja]

It's the point of longsword fighting. You're supposed to injure the opponent while staying uninjured yourself. That's why they award no points for double hits, and there's so much focus on if they parried the counter. It's one of the reasons why it will not turn into the fancy tag that olympic fencing has become.

[@BrianDG1001]

sapherno11 yeah, like they fight only to injure the oponents, not to kill, I know it's a sports but fencing are more intense for me. Maybe because it's still new/young so they need to add/change some rules and equipments. But it's still fun to watch, like your watching a sumo fight its old sport but still a lot of fans.

[@roygbiv3305]

if i got pierced with the sword...

[@lovewins3900]

CURSE GUNS!!!!

[@Gregory-the-small]

So we going to ignore the peeps makin out 😂?

[@thenerdybreakdown3751]

I had to scroll for waaay too long too find someone else that saw it...the two chicks back corner...eff the sword fight

[@xAckarax]

The constant pauses for the judge is annoying. They should just let them go until one man reached a fix number of hits.

[@gavyncoble4043]

pfft bunch of amateurs. not once did any of them end eachother rightly

[@ChiefAero]

with the pommel

[@Kyndral22]

lol I picture someone scrolling through and asking themselves what "end them rightly" mean, they click replies, and see your comment, "ooh convenient"

[@chemicaldruid4591]

no stabs. typical meyer. nice carpet tho.

[@thenerdybreakdown3751]

ummmm....6:56....just sayin'

[@monkeyzeetube]

funny

[@InfiniteGyre069]

Not one much for boasting as my ego forbids it but I'm self taught and I wager I'd school these guys. I'm gonna have to go to combat con sometime.

[@Observer29830]

Do put up a video once you're there. I'm sure your fighting will be a sight to see.

[@Sc00byg00k]

Ruki-Chan!! Lmfao sure

[@anmlevi6761]

how many life do they have, cuz the real shit would be done from 1 min

[@taliladd224]

ANM Levi what are you trying to say?

[@Sc00byg00k]

ANM Levi smh dude

[@AsgeirrSpjuth]

Uugh, that a bloody ugly cod piece.

[@bearsuo1759]

Not very spectator friendly, much the same as fencing. They're covered in so much safety gear they attack without worry of pain. I'd rather face and collar bone protection and hand protection. One 10-50second real fight with bruises and a righteous end. I'm not saying Combat Con should do this, more so that doing the same as fencing with this point system isn't going to bring in much new interest, because this is pretty much fencing with long swords. I kept skipping past the constant judging interruptions and didn't care who won cause they both just killed each other (double hit) round after round.

[@e_wa.n5036]

no points for double hits. Its difficult to see whats actually happening but i can assure you that alot of blows which seemed to have landed with 'catastrophic' consequence was a blocked blow with one contestant's blow being 'lethal'. Emphasis is put on the requirement to block and parry a blow, and whether an attack had content behind it. Fact is most of the action happens far too quick to see on camera and would probably be much more ingaging in real life

[@vernon1483]

indeed