COME AN SEE (1985) First Time Watching! Movie Reaction! A Filmmaker Reacts! Analysis too!

Hey Guys, we're reacting to The ClassicWar movie from the 80's "Come and see" I'm flying solo this week. So bear with me in the absence of my better half. This movie is highly disturbing and covers a campaign of terror in 1943 from Nazis and Nazi collaborators against the civilian populations of Belarus.
Watch as Major has his first experience with this film.
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[@gdlmao]

The man in the German uniform at the beginning is a partisan in disguise,. Because the Belarusian SSR was under occupation, it was too dangerous for many civilians to simply run into the woods and join the partisans. The Germans and their collaborators in the so-called "Belarusian National Committee" tried to limit and monitor movement of people in or out of each village. The sudden disappearance of fighting age men and women would be taken as evidence (among others) that a given village was aiding the partisans - leading to massacres such as that seen in this fim. So, one way to recruit partisans from the civilian populace, and avert suspicion from any collaborators' reporting to the Germans, would be to dress in Wehrmacht uniforms and conduct a mock "arrest" of recruits, in order to safely bring them to a partisan camp.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

I appreciate the deep knowledge on this.

[@sahasasahasa]

Thank u for info

[@LoudaroundLincoln]

What's the saying? Necessity is the mother of invention? Never ceases to amaze me the dangerous, disturbing, ingenious, and sometimes weird things people will do to keep themselves and others alive.

[@BlyGuy]

My wife and I recently watched this film and I was thoroughly confused with that scene. Thank you for clarifying. What an incredible film. Probably the only movie that has haunted me to an extent.

[@user-rd9ls9cn8x]

вот такое творили сс во время войны.

[@user-ru8yw1be9t]

11:19 Victor Lorenz, served in the Latvian SS Volunteer Legion as part of the 6th SS Corps. After the war, it was issued by Sweden to the Soviet Union. He was granted amnesty in 1946. Interestingly, his father was the leader of the Socialist Party of Latvia. Every year, on March 16, Latvia holds a memorial day for the fallen soldiers of the Latvian SS Volunteer Legion. History teaches nothing.

[@user-dx8ds1jf5j]

My wife's great-grandfather was taken prisoner by the Germans in 1941. In 1943 he was summarily executed for trying to escape from the concentration camp. He was mauled to death by camp dogs. My grandmother's brothers all fought in the war (I am Kazakh). When they came back from the war, their psyche was completely compromised. They started to drink a lot of alcohol. They were cruel to their families. One of my grandmother's brothers was concussed by a shell and was left disabled, his arm was forever in a position as if he was holding a machine gun. This war broke the lives of several generations of people in the USSR.

[@pavelkto5281]

The filmmaker of this movie "Come and See" Mr. Elem Klimov studied historical documents about war crimes , genocide and atrocities commuted by German Nazi in USSR. Also he met with lots of survived victims during WW2 and heard their testimonies. He said that he made this movie in a light way. He decided not to show the great part of atrocities and heinous crimes committed by Germans in Russia. Elem added that if he had included all truth about these war crimes the move would be too traumatizing and would be unbearable to watch.

[@sukho01]

i think he said that it would be too hard for him to watch it as well

[@LaunchPadMcQuack4Hire]

In highschool, a concentration camp survivor came to speak to my history class. The stories she told were beyond barbaric and more disturbing than anything I've seen depicted in a WWII movie.

[@ThePatchworkPossum]

Did you know the young man who played Florya, Aleksei Kravchenko, was not an actor? He accompanied his friend to the casting call, just for fun. It was a game for them, to audition, then change clothing and line up again. Aleksei had no interest in acting, however once he was cast he took the role as seriously as he possibly could; including starving himself and committing to an insane exercise routine, as well as very little sleep, to appear properly malnourished and exhausted. The director, Klimov, was both surprised and very grateful that Aleksei turned out to be alright. He was almost certain that the experience of acting and the real horrors he endured, would see Aleksei permanently damaged - perhaps institutionalised. This interview with the actor and director is on KZbin, its wonderful.

[@kodywatts6886]

The subtle use of surrealism next to the hyperrealism in this film is amazing. I love this movie but I’ve only watched in it’s entirety 2 times. Both times I had to throw on a Pixar movie right after to pull myself out of the existential dread.

[@december2364]

Funny you should say that. I stuck on a load of Sergeant Bilko shows after watching this. You definitely need something light-hearted to watch following this.

[@TylerClear]

I bought the Criterion Collection version but have yet to rewatch this movie. Even though I've owned it for 3ish years.

[@mynameismynameis666]

next time let it seep in

[@eho6380]

The partisans only had cigarettes and alcohol.

[@MySerpentine]

He stops shooting when it's a child, for the same reason the others shoot instead of burn--because you haven't won if you're no better than the enemy at the end.

[@deadcarnivora8648]

My fellow people Russians Belarusians Ukrainians Poles I've endeavored to learn, endlessly appreciate, and have a thorough comprehension of what happened to Eastern Europeans in WW2 at the hand of Nazis and their collaborators. Your sacrifices, experiences, your suffering, and your lives will never be understated or forgotten by me. My friends.❤️

[@adamstuhlman2206]

So true...and also it is important to remember the amount of suffering the Chinese went through at the hands of the Japanese-20 million Chinese died in WWII.

[@sanfander]

our people were raped by the Soviets too, don't forget, first the Soviets came then the Nazis and then the Soviets AGAIN, it was horrible decades of abuse

[@schoolgang597]

But remember that Red Army wasn’t better than Germans, they’ve done horrible things too

[@LoudaroundLincoln]

​@School Gang name me an army that hasn't. The British, French and US armies weren't exactly pristine.

[@pauldourlet]

@@schoolgang597 The Red Army did what they did AFTER the NAZIS had done what they did .

[@serg_lvtr]

I watched this movie in a movie theater in 1985 , on the big screen . I have never seen anything like it, I experienced fear. I think that the peculiarity of this film is that there were no famous Soviet actors here, mostly little-known Russian actors and a lot of ordinary people, and therefore the film is very realistic, Respect to director Klimov

[@yuhanwu5267]

Just to clarify the details, most of the dialogue were in Belarusian, little in Ukrainian and German. Comparing to RSFSR, BSSR had more forests for partisans to hide… there was a time, Jewish partisan led by Abba Kovner, remained soldiers from Armia Krajowa, Ukrainian partisans led by Stepan Bandera, and partisans led by USSR in BSSR forests. The main actor was a Belarusian, I don’t remember where, but the director once said something like all of traumas passed through blood to him, they were in his roots.

[@restant8845]

This movie is in my all time favorites. After being conditioned by Hollywood with “feel good war stories” this one made me feel horror and tension more than any other movie. This movie reminds me of a passage from Tim O Brians book “the things they carried” in which he states that “A true war story is never moral.”. When i watch this film, morality never shines. This is a true war story because there is no deep lesson in this movie. There is No “feel good” moments because this isnt about gaining victory after a battle or defeating the enemy. This movie is about what happened before the victories and over- glorified battles. A young kid whos eager to fight back only to realize that itll cost him everything. Its eye opening. And that ending where he fades into the crowd really emphasizes the fact that all of these people have gone through similar tragedies yet they all become one unit after losing everything. This isnt about some foreigners invading a country or some GIs giving a last stand. This is about a kid losing everything he has including his homeland. Its heartbreaking, brilliant, and gives that intense realism that many movies missed. From the cinematography to the editing, this movie was made with a passion to show what really happen. What war is really like. What it means to lose everything in such a swift and brutal way. The constant fear that drives through this film brings more impact than any other horror movie i have seen. This film did its job and i respect everyone who worked on this film. They need to show this film in schools instead of over glorified hollywood bullshit where they make War seem moral and honorable. One of the greatest films ever made. Im glad its up for free on youtube for everyone to watch. Ps:nothing wrong with action movies from hollywood, its just that those are made more for entertainment and sending messages than showing what happened and how there is no honor in any of this. The worst part is that this type of tragedies will always happen. As long as there is life, people will seek death. There is no stopping the human war machine.

[@MrSqueamishJam]

I think this should be a mandatory watch but I don't think I'm interested in showing it to anyone under 18 years old.

[@annanikolaeva8476]

@@MrSqueamishJam This film was a must-see for all high school students in the late 1980s in USSR. I watched this movie when I was 15-16 years old. and it was the best vaccination for us against any nonsense like neo-Nazism or racism. I showed it to my daughter at about the same age. I think it should be shown to teenagers. after this film any thought of war, of murder, is simply unacceptable.

[@MrSqueamishJam]

@@annanikolaeva8476 you are probably right. As much as I want to protect children from seeing it I know that hard visual would be the reality check people need

[@kirilltitov2322]

Слава Советскому народу, победившему фашизм. Слава павшим в борьбе со злом. Вечная память...

[@ThunderbackOG]

This happened all throughout Belarus. The Core SS was expanded to broaden the attack. Those death squadrons included ex-prisoners and some extra vile individuals, that even the somewhat more high-strung core SS was disgusted by, and that is saying something. They pretty much accepted everyone who sympathized with the SS ideology. I think the guys depicted in this movie are meant to be the "Dirlewanger" Squad. Do yourself a favor and don't google them. They were the worst Nazis that ever existed.

[@mynameismynameis666]

not just in belarus. in bulgaria, rumania, ukraine, poland, estonia, lithuania, russia, hungary.......

[@dmitriyrozhdestvenskiy2826]

Yep, they also took convicts and SS-collaborators, such as "ROA" ("Russkaya Osvoboditel'naya Armya", or Russian Liberation army") of general Vlasov - traitors from the Russians and "UPA" - "Ukrainskaya Povstan'cheskaya armya", or Ukrainian rebel army and SS-Russland, - Russian collaborators, SS-Nachtigal (nightingale), SS-Galitia (or the 14-th Ukrainian division "Galitchina") - Ukrainian collaborators. Common dirt as the German convicts.

[@championknife]

Belarusians themselves say that the most violent and most Belarusians died at the hands of Ukrainian nationalists. The German regime attracted Ukrainian nationalists for punitive actions in Belarus.

[@untodesu]

4:12 - the whole film was captured with no artificial lighting 4:23 - this was actually real ammunition

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Yes I heard, that’s crazy but kinda cool

[@nickgurpleez2628]

Real explosions too

[@kingwiththeax6880]

Also, they really did shoot the cow and use the dead cow for the following shots.

[@LeonardoDiCapthezhoes]

the young man's face is so unbelievably terrified. It seems so real, almost too real.

[@Warloo100]

This movie is a monster. I bought the DVD, watched it and I most likely won't watch ist again, because it is too painful to watch. It took my full strength to watch it for the first time and I don't know if I will go through this once more. Think I can't stand it. It hurts too much. Greetings from Germany

[@jiles7726]

I think it would hurt for all of us if we had an honest picture of what our own governments have done across the world.

[@sassymenses]

Say thanks to your grandparents.

[@Warloo100]

@@sassymenses What should I be grateful for? Both grandfathers dies in war or in captivity, they were regular chaps who would have felt lucky being someplace else.

[@user-wv2ke6lb4j]

This movie is not a monster. This movie opened a window for you from the information matrix to the real world. You looked out of the matrix, got scared and closed the window. But the reality has not changed, it continues to be now.

[@mynameismynameis666]

THIS is what our grandparents did, they celebrated their murder and rapes and this is also why they kept silent about it and drank themselves to death.

[@tamasmarcuis4455]

I was taken by someone who liked war movies to see this film in 1985. When we came out I remembered that we were less than 15 minutes from the site of one of the villages that had been murdered and maybe about 30 minutes from another place were 10s of thousands of Jewish people had been murdered. That's probably why it was not popular in the USSR, to close to reality and the places it happened. My friend was cured of war movies after that.

[@user-pu6pp6mq1s]

Почему только евреев!? А сколько не евреев??? Русских, белорусов ,украинцев.?

[@user-yb4bb4qt7r]

Меня всегда поражает однобокость подачи событий некоторыми людьми. Всегда задаюсь вопросом : не знают, или сознательно искажают? Погибли не десятки тысяч евреев, а почти все еврейское население Беларуси , в живых остались крохи. Кроме того было уничтожено огромное к-во белорусов и других славян - в Беларуси погиб каждый третий ее житель. Было сожжено вместе с людьми огромное к-во белорусских деревень - не щадили ни детей, ни женщин, ни стариков. Этот фильм описывает малую часть тех зверств, которые творили гитлеровцы и их приспешники в Беларуси . Украина тоже сильно пострадала , еврейское население тоже почти все было уничтожено, поляки, цыгане и сами украинцы тоже уничтожались. Хотя немало предателей из Украины стали служить карателями у гитлеровцев , в основном из западных областей. Но и против фашистов огромное к-во украинцев героически воевало в рядах Красной Армии и в партизанах. Русских деревень ,в европейской части , фашисты тоже много сожгли вместе с жителями , города разрушали под ноль. В процентном отношении больше всего в рядах красной Армии воевало русских, на втором месте украинцы ( как самые многочисленные нации в СССР), затем белорусы и т.д - представители абсолютно всех национальностей, которых более двухсот было, в СССР героически воевали на фронтах против фашистов , защищая свою землю .

[@pamelaleigh4225]

​@@user-yb4bb4qt7rbut were not some of those nationalities that DID fight with the Germans not so much Nazis or Nazi sympathizers, but instead fighting AGAINST the Soviets, who had invaded and subjugated their people? From my American understanding, this is what happened. Things are rarely simple. Or am I confused?

[@evgeniantonov1035]

"Way too easy for what they did" That's the point. Partisans just stay humans. No torture. No burning people. Just do your "job" and life goes on.

[@user-gg1eq6mc2r]

Some things in this film were softened at the request of the authorities, including the scene with captured fascists and policemen from local and SS "Galicia" fighters. Elem Klimov planned to burn them, not shoot them.

[@Foxrich99]

Yea this movie really towned down what actually happened to captured germans, it's just that small step wich really prevents it from being a masterpiece

[@alfonsocalventeiglesias1398]

To me, this movie is an absolute masterpiece.

[@kojiattwood]

One of the all time most devastating films I've ever seen in person; I vividly remember shambling out of the theatre to complete silence.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

Where and when did you see this in the theatre? how'd the audience react?

[@kojiattwood]

@@Mr.Goodkat There was a great old theatre in Kansas City called the Tivoli that showed lots of independent/foreign/art films; literally I've never walked out of a movie at the end where the audience was stunned into abject silence.

[@Mr.Goodkat]

@@kojiattwood What year would that have been? and then nobody say anything when getting up and leaving? would it usually be rowdy?

[@kojiattwood]

@@Mr.Goodkat mid 80's as I recall

[@pamelaleigh4225]

​@@Mr.GoodkatI have always been struck by the way that Americans will walk out of a film with no reflection or reaction at all. Shows you something about the vapidity of American films. Come and See is not a vapid film.

[@Bill-oe6pw]

Brutal. You'll need a lighthearted flick after that. That said, art highlighting where fascism inevitably leads is needed now more than ever.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Next up tremors, so way ahead of you

[@FCBSERIS]

perhaps Threads (1984) :)

[@noheroespublishing1907]

Klimov's masterpiece! Definitely watch his wife's film, dealing with the same subject, "The Ascent" it's such a great film as well. The world should never forget the twenty seven million people in the Soviet Union who fought and died to stop the Nazis; the Eastern Front was absolutely brutal, as a majority of the Nazi divisions were deployed to ethnically cleans the Slavic peoples; definitely check out the history of the real life monster Oskar Dirlewanger and his division of sociopaths.

[@jnagarya519]

Many multiple millions were slaughtered in China by the Japanese between 1937 and 1945. We rarely hear about that.

[@noheroespublishing1907]

@@jnagarya519 Yeah, I think mainly it would deflate the Anti-Communist Cold war narrative that glorifies the United States, United Kingdom, and France; people also forget that the Soviet Union helped push the Japanese out of China too.

[@jnagarya519]

@@noheroespublishing1907 France elected at least one Communist president during the Cold War. But that didn't change France into a Communist country. And there are right-wing Fascists who have no problem with Putin even while believing he's still a Communist. At the same time, of course, they characterize anyone not right-wing as "Communist".

[@johndoe6298]

'twenty seven million people in the Soviet Union who fought and died to stop the Nazis' That's slightly misleading, since they didn't all die fighting, though I appreciate the point you're trying to make. The Soviet Union DID indeed lose approximately 27 million of its citizens during the war in total (military and civilian). Of these, approximately 11 million were military personnel, predominantly Red Army troops. However, not all these were KIA, since around 3.3 million Soviet POWs died in German captivity. The remaining 16 million were Soviet civilians who died predominantly from German and other Axis actions, such as starvation due to massive food confiscations, outright massacres and reprisals, as well as a minority who fought and died as partisans.

[@jnagarya519]

@@johndoe6298 STALIN starved millions of RUSSIANS to death.

[@Ingens_Scherz]

The brilliance of this movie isn't just its depiction of extreme, internalised trauma - which I think is unparalleled in cinema - it's the presentation of the nazis as what they really were: petty, degenerate, cruel and utterly devoid of mercy. But the truly horrifying thing to me is that just in terms of bloodthirsty butchery what they really did in the Soviet Union was a thousand times worse than even the most vicious crimes depicted in this film.

[@somethingrandom5644]

Jesus Christ if you think the Soviet Union comes anywhere close to nazi germany you’re insane man.

[@michaelporter2103]

The idea that the Soviets were somehow worse then the Nazis is utter nonsense. Its a narrative promoted by the the decedents of Eastern European collaborators. Soviet retaliation against Nazi collaborators is recast as "a crime equal to or worse then the holocaust". Its a soft form of holocaust denial that benefits the collaborators since they actually took part in the holocaust.

[@ragdaj]

exactly.

[@HelenaCruspe]

Что ты вообще знаешь про СССР? То что ты пишешь эти враньё

[@user-iz9tf8nw3s]

@@HelenaCruspe Этому "знатоку" автор канала еще и лайк поставил. Вот такие они порицатели нацизма - у них СССР всегда хуже фашистов. Клоуны лицемерные🤮

[@parrotjunglecolada8270]

The Crain is the mother of eggs he crushed earlier without much care, it’s how his people were being crushed without much care, the mom Crain followed him around as a grim ripper a reminder of what’s to come for him

[@sahasasahasa]

Excellent observation.

[@annusyapipii]

he did care, he was crying :c and seeing the girl cry made him cry even more! he just didn't see the eggs u.u

[@judeinfante1447]

Saw this and I recommend this film should be shown in schools as a double feature with Hotel Rwanda. Seriously the fact many people haven't seen this explains allot of dumb shit people don't reflect on or think about. Hell I didn't even know anything about Belarus or the Impact of Russia during WW2 till I saw this heartbreaking truth of a masterpiece

[@user-tv7fz9ew7m]

The fact, that most of the people from USA and some from Europe dont know anything about the participation of the Soviet Union in this war, is really sad fact for people from post-soviet countries. People dont know, how many of soviet people died in this war, how big was impact of USSR in winning WW2. And when we hear, that people think that USA destroyed Nazi Germany, that hurts our feelings and pride very much, as if our history is being slandered and they do not consider it important. Everyone remembers 6 million of jewish people, but what about 24 million of soviet people? I wish more people know about German atrocity and USSR pain. P.S. Sry for my english

[@UNMD_Restoration]

Seen The Checkist? I'd recommend it though it is equally grim and tells of an even darker less known chapter in human suffering...

[@user-mb7yd1me3p]

@@user-tv7fz9ew7m 27 000 000

[@Harvest133]

that wasn't just any SS unit, it was the Dirlewanger Brigade. It was an SS unit made almost entirely of convicts and poachers and didn't receive any formal military training. It's why they have no discipline or professional bearing. They were almost constantly drunk, and took great pleasure in their cruelties like a child. They rarely engage actual combatants and when they did they tended to do very poorly. No, their targets were mostly unarmed villagers.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Sound like some nasty fuckers

[@mynameismynameis666]

just like azov and aidar. b.t.w. carrying the same symbols on their patches, especially from 2014-2022, when vice followed them around shooting up russian minority villages (which is also why you never hear incoming fire in the videos)

[@Harvest133]

@@mynameismynameis666 shh. The west doesn't like you pointing out their pet Nazis

[@user-co3di5pd1c]

This film specifically shows Ukrainian nationalists from Stepan Bandera’s OUN, who swore an oath to Hitler and exterminated Jews, Poles and Belarusians. In the film, they and one German speak Russian with the locals, and some locals speak Belarusian.

[@Harvest133]

@@user-co3di5pd1c there's just one problem with that... The 1st Galician Division were primarily deployed in Poland and Yugoslavia, not Belarus.

[@pyatig]

The point of the movie isn’t to show Nazis as scum of the earth but to show that every one of us can grow numb to sheer evil given the circumstances

[@SuperHotgun]

Everyone should watch this movie once. One viewing is quite enough. Enough for a lifetime. Sorry for my english.

[@blakeray9856]

Your English is perfect here.

[@SuperHotgun]

@@blakeray9856 yandex-translate =) Thanks

[@blakeray9856]

@@SuperHotgun пожалуйста

[@user-lb8uv8nw7q]

Это документальный фильм. Настоящее лицо западного мира.

[@championknife]

When I watched this film, I was not so impressed, since my relatives who went through the war and occupation were alive, and this is how they described the war. It is also interesting that the film was made in one take as a real story and live ammunition is used in the film ... at the end of filming the boy got gray hair because he perceived the actions realistically.

[@blagueur74]

I am not racist, my cousin married a latino guy. Thats what you sounded like.. Living horror in real life is different. You dont know my friend.

[@championknife]

@@blagueur74 Sorry, I use google translator and unfortunately I could not translate and understand you correctly.

[@championknife]

@Jared Jams I was impressed with the way the film was shot, the brutality of the Nazis was to be expected.

[@MrSqueamishJam]

They dyed his hair.... that is not how it works lol

[@tvscreen8397]

@@blagueur74 Latino ain’t a race

[@jaredisley-oliver389]

The “German” dudes that took the kid in the cart where Russian soldiers. They where far behind German Lines and pretended to “arrest” him so they could “sneak” around.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

thanks for answering that if figured it was that or something similar, because the kid is smiling in the cart

[@jaredisley-oliver389]

Such Naivety in those first scenes…. The director was a Child Fleeing the Nazis from Stalingrad and remembered the fire and heat from the burning city as they paddled across the Volga River. And the Cinematographer was a 15 year old Belorussian Soviet Partisan and a lot of the movie was based on his experiences in fighting the war. This is why the movie felt so effective in its display of that hell. They wanted to show the world what happened.

[@johndoe6298]

@@jaredisley-oliver389 It also countered the predominant Soviet post-war narrative, which championed the glorious victory of the Red Army but omitted the nuance of the partisan war or the cost the war had on civilians (the USSR lost more civvies than soldiers during the war). It took the filmmakers several years to get the movie made due to government censorship. It's not a coincidence that it only came out during the Gorbachev-era, as it's very unlikely that a film like this would have been released in the USSR 10-15 years earlier.

[@sgtmac46]

It was clear watching the movie that the Soviet military provided the “special effects”…..the cow scene involved actual machine gun fire with tracers and I think they actually shot the cow.

[@bugnut82]

Why did the sound seem off? During that scene, or is that how tracer rounds sound?

[@user-yl9ce6yg9e]

да, это так

[@JH-lo9ut]

It's the movie everyone should see but nobody wants to see twice.

[@RantaHun]

watch the movie "Volyn" (2016). they took into account all the moments that shocked in the movie "Come and see" and maximized 100%. the film turned out to be even scarier, although the events are similar. it's just that at that time the censorship would not have allowed this film at all.

[@waverider8549]

Is it in Russian? Something like "Волынь"?

[@RantaHun]

@@waverider8549 да.

[@user-vy6vf2nv7g]

Знать историю важно, чтоб не допускать такое с нашими детьми. Удачи тебе и духовного роста :)

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Thank you for your comment tavarich

[@majormoviemadness9927]

For those unable to read Russian google translate provided this: “Knowing history is important to prevent this from happening to our children. Good luck and spiritual growth :)”

[@Ingens_Scherz]

Tell that to Putin.

[@katharsisss]

@@Ingens_Scherz 🤦‍♀

[@user-dp7jy4pv7w]

@@Ingens_Scherz tell that to Ukrainians what glorify people like Stepan Bandera

[@patrickholt2270]

In Daniel Goldhagen's _Hitler's Willing Executioners_ he lays out how a quarter or a half of the Einsatzgruppen which carried out most of the Holocaust of Bullets were not even officially in the military, but were volunteer police units from Germany. Obviously there were also the various collaborator outfits who joined in enthusiastically, including Stepan Bandera and his people from the OUN(B) of Ukraine, but the point was that the hate and belief in the program of extermination spread far beyond the SS. Goldhagen shows how members of the units had the right to refuse orders to murder civilians, and to be reassigned home again for any reason, but they didn't. They protested about looting, but not the Jew Hunts or "Anti-Partisan" actions. Dutiful authoritarians, they co-operated consciously.

[@Doehini]

Love this movie, it made me genuinely cry and felt so real, can’t even imagine the horror these people truly experienced

[@helloworld-ti5zs]

The reality was worse. I read the book in internet, only one page and burst out crying. As a survived man told in his village adults were separated from thier children. The adults were burned, their children were torn to pieces by Nazis dogs. Omg.

[@rmcgavock1]

Amazing film. You make good points about the casting and the visceral nature of the film-making. I see a lot of correlations between this film and Apocalypse Now - hard to imagine more impactful war movies.

[@user-du2ed3mr2o]

Я родился в Советском Союзе в 1979 году. Этот фильм показывали в кинотеатрах и на него водили школьников целыми классами. Я посмотрел его лет в 9-10. Это была самая действенная прививка от нацизма. В фильме показаны не только каратели немцы-эссесовцы, но и их украинские преспешники бандеровцы, которые уничтожали мирное население оккупироаанной части Советсеого Союза (современные территории украины, Белоруссии, западной России). Современный конфликт с украиной начался в том числе и потому, что там у власти находятся те, кто переписывает историю второй мировой войны, считает бандеровцев героями, которые боролись за независимость украины, а на самом деле помогали немецким фашистам в их тотальной войне против Советского Союза. Вечная слава многонациональному советскому народу. Мы никогда не забудем кто с кем воевал, кто и какой ценой победил. Враг будет разбит, победа будет за нами!

[@user-wc2rc3xn4j]

Нас ещё считали потерянным поколением в 90-е. Ан нет, с возрастом приходит понимание и ответственность! Тыкай друг их носом в правду.

[@user-wc2rc3xn4j]

Не мог не добавить, приспешники не преспешники. Всех кто 1979-го года рождения, буду особенно поправлять! :))

[@user-du2ed3mr2o]

@@SovietForeignAgent Вы, кастрюлеголовые, давно попутали чёрное с белым... Диалог с подобным существом считаю крайне контрпродуктивным. Живи дальше в своём иллюзорном псевдомирке. Слава Богу, мое поколение и мои дети воспитаны на памяти о подвигах наших предков. Поэтому, твои высеры здесь- лишь жалкая возня жука-навозника.

[@championknife]

@@SovietForeignAgent Где вранье? Все правильно пишет. Из украины делали Антироссию. И если в России патриотизм культивируется на основе Победы в ВОВ, то значит нужно в украине возрождать их оппонентов, нацистов и коллаборационистов . Бандеру, Шухевича, Дивизия СС Галичина. Сносить памятники ВОВ, объявлять символику СССР под запрет ( символика СС Галичина разрешена на украине) И этот процесс я как гражданин украины видел каждый день.

[@championknife]

@@SovietForeignAgent Ільїн складна особистість, спочатку вітав фашизм, а коли фашизм почав переходити до практики... Ільїн писав про фашизм-безрелігійність, створення правого тоталітаризму, встановлення партійної монополії, відхід в крайнощі націоналізму і войовничого шовінізму, змішання соціальних реформ з соціалізмом і зісковзування через тоталітаризм в одержавлення господарства, ідолопоклонницький цезаризм з його демагогією, раболіпством і деспотією. Російські фашисти цього не зрозуміли і якщо вони «оселитися в Росії (чого не дай Бог), то вони скомпрометують всі державні і здорові ідеї і проваляться з ганьбою...... після чого Ільїн звалив до Швейцарії. Антиукраїну з Росії не робили, не та вагова катигорія в України, пропаганда була проти США і заходу в цілому. І твої казки про шовінізм, націоналізм (у багатонаціональній державі !!!) це просто мерзенний обман. У мене до речі громадянство України, і я багато років піддавався антиросійській пропаганді. Ахахахахаха, не прокатало у тебе.

[@lAsteriosl]

Partisans are not regular unit. After raids on German supply lines they take everything that can be usefull, this include all sorts of weapons, helmets, uniform. There is no strict dress code among partisans

[@user-co3di5pd1c]

The armies of Belarusian partisans maintained contact and coordinated their actions with the Red Army. Red Army aircraft delivered ammunition, explosives, clothing and sometimes even special artillery guns to the partisans when the front line was close and this became possible. Some people at the beginning of the war remained in the occupied territories because the NKVD ordered them, and organized partisan armies and radio communications with the general headquarters in Moscow. At the end of 1941 there were about 12 thousand partisans. At the end of the war, there were about 374 thousand living partisans (In total there were about 1,255 detachments. These are 213 brigades and regiments, and another 258 independent detachments).

[@darkseeker102]

The filming seems pretty crazy too as they killed a real cow but a terminally ill one. Shot live ammo over that actor's head. The Director also wanted to hypnotize the actor for the heavy scenes but couldn't so he just did a great job acting.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Wait is that accurate about the cow? I did notice the racer fire. The visual seemed incredibly accurate to what I’ve seen before. Usually in film you see tracer fire, but not the ricochets in this you see ricochets did they really live fire over his head or was it superimposed. The explosions also where much larger charges than what is typically used. They probably broke ever rule as far as safety

[@darkseeker102]

@@majormoviemadness9927 I believe there an interview of him saying he remembers bullets flying over his head. It is all crazy but then I remember its Russia and in the 70s and 80s. I think child actors in USA got more protection in just the 90s or at least I know of more activism that happened.

[@user-co3di5pd1c]

@@majormoviemadness9927 They made a small shelter from bullets in the field, and placed an armored personnel carrier with soldiers on the other side of the field. A sick cow, which was supposed to be killed by a veterinarian, was taken from local farmers and placed between an armored personnel carrier and a shelter. The director, cameraman and actor sat under cover, and the armored personnel carrier began shooting in their direction. When the bullets hit the cow, the director asked the actor to lie down next to her and began filming. To show the bombing of a partisan camp, the director took aerial bombs from the Soviet army. When the sappers detonated the air bombs, the effect was very unexpected for the actors; they were very confused and reacted realistically. Local residents were invited to be extras in the film, and the old man at the beginning of the film is the headman of the local village.

[@HateMachinist]

A horror-movie through and through. It shows the brutality of war, with real bombs, munitions and flamethrowers. And it ends on a note of the main-characters realization of his own capacity for cruelty. I at least cannot interpret the way his expression change another way. During WW2, the professional German army would blitz, whereas the occupation-force that held the territories under control were not exactly what you call "cream of the crop" to say the least. The SS even recruited societal rejects out of local prisons, gave them weapons and authority, and let them lose upon the societies that had rejected them. We can only imagine what happened next. Its got me convinced that the scariest sound in the world is the gentle humming of a recon plane.

[@eugenescobelev9586]

This is not a Hollywood my friend.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Yeah

[@dylangintherofficial]

Its one of my personal fav anti war films ever heavily inspired me to start film making its an amazing film

[@romashizzo7184]

the actor who played the role of the Schutzmannschaft commander was a soldier in the Latvian SS battalion in his youth

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Crazy

[@cassu6]

Lucky to have survived. Although no wrong in joining those foreign SS legions, really only way to fight the soviets who occupied your country.

[@romashizzo7184]

@@cassu6 only then, for some reason, he decided to act in a film where these "defenders" are exposed as complete beasts)) in the film, by the way, the historical truth was corrected for the sake of promoting the friendship of peoples. in reality, in Belarus, Schutzmannschafts were completed not by Germans, but by Ukrainians.

[@mynameismynameis666]

the soviets freed these people from SLAVERY under Feudalism.... @@cassu6

[@everythingintheuniverse8962]

​@@cassu6anti communism is Fascism bud

[@user-wh1zc6on3g]

А сейчас предки этих " Цивилизованных " Европейцев, ещё учат нас жизни...

[@user-tz5no1nm9z]

We in Russia (and almost in all Post-Soviet Russia) always say: whatever, but no war.

[@uladzimirlikhalap6122]

Now russians say special military operation

[@Kniazhnami]

No. Russians say "we can make it again". Belarusians say "Russian terrorist Empire, f**k you"

[@phobos8992]

The film is most fully perceived by residents of the area where these events take place (Belarus), because many characters speak in a rural dialect. This adds even more realism

[@jnagarya519]

Both director and screenwriter grew up witnessing this. The director never made another film.

[@BigGator5]

"And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer. And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword. And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine. And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth." - Revelation 6: 1-8 KJV

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Didn’t make that connection, thanks

[@user-pl4lt2jr5u]

I think it will be interesting to you that these terrible atrocities were actually committed not by German soldiers, but by the 118th Battalion of the Schutzmannschaft of the 201st German Security Division, consisting mainly of ethnic Ukrainians. In modern Ukraine, Nazi collaborators are considered national heroes. Every year there is a parade of veterans of the Waffen-Grenadier SS Division "Galician" (Galician/Ukrainian SS Division No. 1), who are called "freedom fighters" in Ukraine.

[@leahmorrowind728]

When i Watched this village scène for thé first Time it was just unreal..as you Saïd it just does not stop, and you almost feel in shok and horror

[@giggling_boatswain]

Well, if someone thinks that this is Soviet propaganda, then you should go to Belarus, Russia and visit their museums. Do you know anything about the Belarusian Khatyn? (see Wikipedia). During the years of occupation (1941-1944), the Nazis carried out more than 140 major punitive operations in Belarus. For the period from 1941 to 1944. They burned 9,131 villages, 5,295 of which the Nazis destroyed along with all or part of the population (data as of March 2021). The result of the Nazi policy of genocide and “scorched earth” in Belarus was 2,230,000 people killed during three years of occupation. According to updated data, every third resident of Belarus died. The main role in the extermination of people in the territories occupied by the Germans was assigned to specially created punitive police forces and military formations of the Nazi SS organization. The Germans behaved the same throughout the entire territory of the USSR. In Europe, the Germans behaved more loyally. For example, in Paris, cafes and restaurants remained open until the end of the war. Hitler considered the Slavs a dirty nation that had no value for Germany (the Ost plan was what Hitler had in store for the Slavs, a total cleansing of the territory for future masters), and the Europeans as a superior race, civilized people. Russian children learn all this at school. Every Russian family has relatives who died in that war. This is the film “Come and See” directed by Elena Klimova, which was released in 1984. Its plot is based on the real events of the genocide of the Belarusian people. The fascist elite developed the Ost plan, according to which the Soviet land had to be cleared of the “unworthy” nation and seeded with a “civilized nation.” Punitive detachments, in which the Germans served together with the indigenous inhabitants of the villages, systematically burned out settlements one after another. Elem Klimov went to this film for quite a long time. His first attempt to make a film about the genocide in Belarus was made in 1977. Klimov wanted to make an unprecedented film about the war. More than two million people died in this Apocalypse in Belarus. In total, the Russians lost 27 million people, and Helen Klimov recreated this hell on earth in her film. The script was written together with writer Ales Adamovich. But the government canceled the film. More precisely, they made so many edits that for Klimov it lost its meaning. Klimov returned to filming a film about Belarus during the Second World War only in 1984. The script has undergone changes towards even greater frankness and uncompromisingness, and the title reminds us of the Bible. The main role in the film was played by Alexey Kravchenko. He was only 14 years old and was not a professional actor. Some of the residents of nearby settlements took part in the crowd. Many of them had a chance to experience the events described in the film in reality. Soviet cinema about the war, with rare exceptions, was somewhat romanticized. Elem Klimov intended to make a hyper-realistic film. And extras, from among those who survived the horrors of those years, were not his only method. We filmed everything that was possible realistically. Almost all of the characters' costumes were real. Real bullets and real bombs were used. The main character of “Come and See” is the personification of an entire people who survived the meat grinder of a terrible war and were left with broken hearts and lives after it. Elena Klimova's film is not just terrifying, it frightens with its super-realism, because the director is not going to spare the audience and present them with a refined story. “Come and See” recreates people's difficult pasts in every possible artistic way, from sound to allegories and metaphors. Along with artistic history, the creators show in “Come and See” a documentary chronicle about the war: it turns out to be more terrible than any fictional horrors. It can be interrupted by shooting Hitler, reversing time. The leader of the Third Reich appears in the film in the form of almost mystical artifacts on which the people take out their anger. The viewer does not see Adolf Hitler, but constantly hears his name and sees him in portraits, so as not to forget the face of the enemy. “Come and see” is a requirement not to turn away from evil, no matter what it is. “Come and see” is a call to never repeat war. Come And See is the most powerful anti-war statement ever made in film.

[@frfrough7088]

Only you do recite some kind of soviet propaganda. There were no such a thing as plan OST. It is a mystification to a certain degree, and were bunch of different plans and documents that Nazis government bureaucrats offered as a solution. It weren't really as dark as portrayed by soviet historiography. Plus there were much more of different plans and ideas, than just one. But more important, it shows a real chaos in this matters during all years of german occupation. Also, nazis didn't consider slavs as dirty nation and subhuman/untermensch. Ofc, slavs were lower than germans, but not as jews or gypsies. Main reasons (for them) to act so unbelievable brutal were communists here as leaders, very srong partisan movement paired with principle of collective guilt from germans, lots of jewish people in Belarus and Ukraine USSR, hardness and chaos of war on eastern front.

[@MrSmokincodz]

I think the film shows the Einsatzgruppen.

[@antonm5539]

The Nazi lackeys were Ukrainian nationalists. These very people considered heroes in modern Ukraine.

[@RyneMurray23]

This movie is absolutely horrifying

[@jimh527]

Joe should have left Pandoras Box alone.

[@alexcarrion4450]

Great review. I just stumbled on this movie and I've had a break here and there.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Welcome aboard!

[@aidanbehrens6518]

For me, the sense of dissatisfaction i got when the perpetrator died is the point of the film. the nazis are dead, but the war continues. the monsters were revenged but still the war continues. beautifully done film.

[@andreascovano7742]

12:14 Those people were spared because they were going to be used unironically as Slave labour. What happened is as the war dragged on, the germans did not have much in the way of workers anymore since they were all in the army now. So they took the men in occupied territory and used them as functionally slave workers in german factories

[@edm240b9]

This is the film that inspired Spielberg to make Saving Private Ryan as gritty as it is.

[@pablokaufervinent8012]

Saving Private Ryan is an optimistic.feel good story. Do you think this story is remotely similar? Even schindlers list seems optimistic compared to it.

[@edm240b9]

@@pablokaufervinent8012 storywise, no. However, when we’re talking about the chaos of combat on Omaha Beach, it doesn’t get any closer. Even Come and See isn’t 100% accurate, which is the scariest part of it all. The director even said that if he had made more realistic, even he couldn’t watch it.

[@user-de8bv3of3q]

Thank you very much! Now you understand why Russian not smiling.....and that's why Russia is so military.. .we remember. 27000000 human lifes was the price of carelessness. Sorry for my english, but I think you understood me....

[@majormoviemadness9927]

The Barbarossa campaign by the wermacht on Soviet Russia was the most brutal terror campaign in modern warfare. The SS were particularly nasty. I don’t know enough about the Belarus occupation but what was shown in this film is why the Nazi regime deserved no mercy after ww2 along with their horrific geniocide of the Jewish peoples of Europe.

[@user-de8bv3of3q]

@@majormoviemadness9927 The Jews were not the only ones subjected to genocide. The Russians (when I say Russians, I also mean Belarusians and Ukrainians, since we are still one people today) were subject to extermination. The Slavs were considered by the Nazis to be undernationals and were subject to total extermination, as were the Jews and the Gypsies. Why do you think the U.S. is blocking the resolution on the glorification of Nazism at the United Nations today?

[@user-de8bv3of3q]

@@majormoviemadness9927 The movie is very powerful... because it shows the truth. But the truth is somewhat softened, if the reality were shown as it was, no one would have been able to watch this film to the end. For example, ripping open the belly of a pregnant woman was commonplace. And babies who were pushed out the window by their parents out of a church to be burned by the Nazis were thrown to the dogs.... this horror will never be forgotten. That's why we need a strong army at all times! Russians don't want war, Russians hate it! But we must always be strong, a lesson we will never forget.

[@Kniazhnami]

It is Belarusian film. Russians is an occupants for us, like Nazi . This film about Belarusian tragedy

[@83056]

Poor Cow

[@gew43]

12:10 oh no the Japanese were way worse

[@U_can_touch_me]

내가 본 영화중 가장 충격적이고 고통스럽고 슬픈 영화였다.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

아주 힘든 시계였다

[@osip667]

And now just imagine how many people deny it ever happened.

[@thishappybreed6505]

I would thoroughly recommend anyone who appreciates this film, especially a filmmaker, to also see Tarkovsky's 'Ivan's Childhood', which is a much more reflective film, but treats the brutalising effects of this same war in very striking ways (and with no shaky zooms, as far as I remember).

[@majormoviemadness9927]

I don’t know if they are shaky zooms, they’re done consistently, and they are push-zooms changing the perspective as it pushes

[@thishappybreed6505]

@@majormoviemadness9927 Sorry, that was just British humour! I had never consciously registered the strange texture of the zooms before; I was impressed that you had seen it and instantly identified it as pat of the visual style. (One of the many subtle devices to keep the audience permanently unsettled?) Anyway, please do see 'Ivan's Childhood', if you don't already know it. PS Looking again, they are dolly zooms, aren't they, tracking back and pushing in with the lens?

[@user-iq1js2lf9d]

Вот из - за этих твоих измов, Европа лезет на Россию.Ни грамма сочувствия.

[@ryanhampson673]

Those were real tracers and live rounds being fired in the cow scene, cow really got hit my MG fire. They used real explosives not pressurized gas cylinders, and that a real flame thrower shooting napalm.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Yeah you can tell from the ricochets

[@user-qz4mk3he8e]

Так ее действительно убили?

[@shineKNEE]

I feel like the film shudder was the directors way to show zoom focus from a camera. I think the crane was a symbolism for death is stalking/following him. He stepped on the eggs. Ever since then every where he went death followed

[@hashrat]

Bit late to the party but there is a captured German in the cart, I assume that is where the Partizan got his uniform from.

[@RJ_MacReady13]

The bleakest, most depressing and terriyfing movie I've ever seen

[@NatashaAvtonomova]

Посмотрите фильм Неизвестная война . 😥🔥🌹🌹

[@Joseph.M.]

At the end, he lost everything so now he can give everything to save someone else's.

[@garic80]

Dude, now you understand how we in Russia in Belarus treat the descendants of the Nazis? There is such a thing - genetic memory, it is inexplicable, but when I see crosses on tanks (in Germany this is an emblem on military vehicles), my blood boils in my veins.

[@Kniazhnami]

Only in Belarus. Russians started world war 2 with Hitler

[@user-sc7wb3ye4r]

Как к русским нацистам коим вы и есть

[@robreich6881]

Well, take the matter up with Leader Zelensky.

[@user-tj2ue9bs5y]

@@user-sc7wb3ye4r Kaкoл, ты уже, скорее всего, пoдox, как и подобает любому чyбaтoму yблюдкy. Но всё же волчий крюк на шевронах падальона Навоз, а не Армии России.

[@user-mr1dr6tk6i]

The general of the Ukrainian SS division Galichina died peacefully in the USA. The Nazis will not leave their own in trouble.

[@bobmurphy9380]

I watched it last night and to be honest I thought it was crap, I wasted an hour and half of my life that I can't get back.

[@4111kack]

The beginning of this movie is before Germany invaded the Soviet Union. That’s why it wasn’t weird to have German soldiers commonly around. That obviously didn’t age well…

[@LADAPIVO]

They were Soviet partisans

[@4111kack]

You are right

[@mist7295]

the director of this movie was just narrating his life during the war

[@fearlessjoebanzai]

It's interesting that in the final scene you were advocating for those soldiers to be killed in as brutal a manner as possible - you lost your humanity. The German who's being "honest" about what they had done, had already been indoctrinated to believe that the people who he was killing "deserved" to be brutally treated - he would have been indoctrinated over many years to feel such horrific emotion... it only took 90mins to make you desire that brutality to be enacted on other humans. I see the last sequence as the kid taking shots as he recalls the horrors - until he imagines the photo of him as a baby. Then he shoots no more. It's that question of would you shoot Hitler as a baby? The humanitarian answer is that if you would then it only makes you a baby killer.

[@manjag513]

those collaborators were ukrainians, not belorussians

[@jnagarya519]

They used live ordnance in this.

[@Orimbar]

"Scorched Earth"-Tactic and how it has been in Belarus as the German retreated.

[@Kniazhnami]

And russian tactic was the same. We are Belarusians, know it from ours grandmothers and grandfathers

[@Orimbar]

@@Kniazhnami any evidence on that?

[@mynameismynameis666]

actually they did this on entering AND exiting. during exiting, they took hostages at every step and positioned them between themselves and the soviets.

[@user-bq8he2xt2w]

Ох,до мурашек пробирает, насколько тяжёлый фильм! Ещё не пойму, почему китайцы сняли так мало фильмов,про зверства ныне цивилизованных японцев?

[@dustypluskrat7423]

Look up ‘City of Life and Death’. Unfortunately the only copy I could find on KZbin has English subtitles it might be difficult to find one in your preferred language setting. But it is definitely worth a watch. As heart wrenching as this and Schindlers List.

[@user-bq8he2xt2w]

@@dustypluskrat7423 Это капля в море,на фоне сотен советских фильмов о войне!

[@Alexandra_Indina]

У Вас есть доступ ко всему, что сняли китайцы за последние 70 лет?) Или кто вам нашептал, что у них таких фильмов мало?

[@user-bq8he2xt2w]

@@Alexandra_Indina Доступ есть у всех,у кого есть интернет! Китайцы из своей фильмотеки тайны не делают.

[@user-ki2kp9xe8n]

​@@user-bq8he2xt2w У них есть фильм - Человек по ту сторону солнца. Крайне похож на наш Иди и смотри

[@lynnhughes6350]

They really shot the cow too …

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Let’s will be thrilled

[@Nokuchishi]

This was not beloruss .... there was Ukrainian people who fight on SS site called UPA. Now they are Heroes of modern Ukraine

[@balikasuntero698]

Hey, you can react to this: Артём Гришанов - Мир спас русский солдат / Russian soldier saved the world / World War 2

[@populist9297]

Review the movie HATRED also

[@nafree32]

In the cow scene are real bulles and the cow was shot for real

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Yeah you can tell from the ricochets

[@andrewsims4123]

3:45 ''amateurish'' cinematographers like roger deakins will disagree with you on that one.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

I don’t think I said amateurish

[@leesaunders7232]

​@@majormoviemadness9927 you definitely did

[@PauLZibertT]

I will never forgive

[@SkyForgeVideos]

You should try and find a copy of a movie called "God on Trial". It surrounds a group of Jews In the concentration camps. It's not as graphic as this, but has some really powerful performances.

[@Nobody-qy7zp]

I would say the come and see titel is a call to all chauvinists to see what war is like.

[@zztopz7090]

I lost all the males in my family from both sides. My grandfather's family were murdered by Ukrainian Banderites because they were Jewish, and my grandmother's Belarussian side were murdered because Hitler was angry that Russians turned out to be more blue eyed and blonde haired than Germans. Certainly the Belarussians were. Thats why we call them "Bella" White Russians.

[@alexander7094]

Чувак вы такое не вывезете , это пример того , чтобы вы свой хобот к нам не совали, результат всегда будит один

[@jlyctoiiib6989]

Make Reaction Downfall (2004)

[@majormoviemadness9927]

I love that film and have seen it about 4 times, maybe with Major I doubt he’s seen it

[@SIBIRIAKcom]

Why this one? So many other great Soviet movies.

[@user-mr1dr6tk6i]

How are the British and Americans better? The fact that they did the same thing, but a little earlier. Even now they are creating. There are many whistleblowers.

[@pinkfloyd870]

What a great film this is.... I hate it.

[@Negrilo69]

Привет всем !

[@livianegidius9772]

Problem with you is that this is NOT TOP GUN and other idiotic americam movies. You never experienced war on your soil from the civil war .But that s exacly what happened in Eastern Europe , not only in Belorusia during WW2. And this movie is MASTERIECE ,plain and simple. They use live ammo for the movie.-Kill your inner Hitler is final message of this movie. It was nominated for an Oscar back in the days but it did not won it beucause it was too realistic. What an irony!!!

[@majormoviemadness9927]

Needlessly aggressive

[@livianegidius9772]

@@majormoviemadness9927 because you do not know what the war is. You just have no idea.And yep, IM angrybecause same happened in Serbia .Luckily my grandgrand parents , husband and wife were with Tito‚ s partisans. There is nosuch thing as surgical precission. We saw it in WW2 and in the bombing of Serbia op Noble Anvil .27 millions dead in USSR and in Serbia then country of 5 millions 800.000 people in WW2.

[@majormoviemadness9927]

You should enroll in anger management

[@alonemax2912]

This is the most horrifying and realistic war movie ever. But don't listen to people who try to justify cruel modern government politics by history. They really love exploit memory and history to explain why Ukrainians people and children should suffer, because someone wants new territories to give them to oligarchs.