What Spice Can We Find In This German cEDH Tournament?!?! | cEDH Top 16 Breakdown

[@InmAncalagon]

Toggo player here, excited to be part of one of your videos! Thrasios/Toggo has been my main deck for the last couple of years playing online and I started playing tournaments this year. 3 top 16s (3rd, 7th and 9th) out of 3 tournaments so far, so I'm pretty happy with the list. The 2 other tournaments were small with about 25 people though. So, here's a couple card choices: - Oboro Breezecaller is a synergy with Toggo to make Rocks when you miss land drops, becomes a ritual with Cradle or Wild Growth or Ancient Tomb. And it's also a nondeterministic win with Cradle and a cost reducer (Training Grounds/Familiar), allowing you to manually draw through your entire deck until you find a win. The way it works is that you activate it for 1 mana, bouncing a land to untap Cradle and then tap Cradle for 5+, allowing you to activate Thrasios at least twice and essentially look at the top 4 cards to put a land from there into play. Then you still have 1+ mana left to repeat the loop. It's a 3 card combo which is usually not great, but alle the other pieces are amazing on their own and I usually tutor for them in the early game anyway to gain value. Also people don't realise that this is a win. It works at instant speed and is very hard to disrupt once all pieces are assembled (which you can usually do without a problem because like I said people don't get that this just wins the game). - Tangle Wire, Urza and Nadu work well with the Rock tokens. I used to play Mox Opal as well but cut it last minute together with Chrome Mox to make room for Carpet of Flowers and another card which I don't remember rn. Reasons for playing Toggo: -Eldritch into Seedborn Muse is great -You have a piece of removal in the command zone to get rid of stax pieces or disrupt other people's game plans I don't always cast Toggo, but he's not to be undererstimated and can often be really clutch to provide removal when you need it.

[@mz-wy9sf]

Some additional lore and fun facts about the event: - The Yuriko player that made the finals is (or was) 17 years old and it was I believe his first event which he was even pretty close to winning at one point during the finals game. - The Yisan deck definitely took a couple people by surprise throughout the event and also was very close to winning at one point in the finals. - The Jhoira pilot is an extremely strong player (who won the event on the same commander last year as mentioned in the video). He also had a super crazy semi finals win where three people (including himself) got milled out on the stack by several Brain Freezes. - The finals game was also very fun to watch with some really funny banter between the players. - The event overall was very cool and fun. It is generally quite popular due to its relaxed atmosphere and lack of entry cost and it's organized by a highly regarded member of the German MTG scene. I myself missed the top16 with Nadu by a point or so on this one due to some misplays and a bit of bad luck in my first two pods :) But I am super excited to see the German (and European) scene grow over time with events like these and attempt to catch up a bit to what happens overseas!

[@10Pugz]

love to see such big deck variation but i thing this more to lack of entry and the relax atmosphere

[@mz-wy9sf]

@@10Pugz I don't think the good placements of more diverse decks in this tournament was because of a lack of good players. At least the top end of the field was quite strong in fact.

[@kekw4007]

Hey, TnK Pilot from 5th Place here. Ty for covering this tournament - never thought i would make it into one of your videos :).

[@leonkratz6900]

Hey, I‘m the Malcolm/Kediss Pilot. Big thanks for covering the tournament. I’m a Fan of the channel and never thought I would land in one of your videos :) Definitely try the pinger combos if you sleeve up Malcolm/Kediss again. In my experience it helps a lot to get to a win!

[@InmAncalagon]

Hey Leon, it was a pleasure to meet you! Our pod in round 4 or 5 (?) was one of my favourite games of the day, even though I was pretty out of the game most of the time. Hope you have more great tournaments with Malcolm Kediss!

[@serrademers6047]

@ 38:30 A king, a goblin and a unicorn walk into a bar.... This was the translation of the Kenrith deck name. "Kommen ein König, ein Goblin und ein Einhorn in eine Bar."

[@peteryankowsky]

Dear Evelyn player, huge fan of the Krrik in the 99 and your primer is fantastic.

[@jan93093]

Hey, K´rrik Pilot here. Thanks for covering this event. I never thought i´d be featured on one of your videos especially because this was my first ever tournament after playing cEDH for about five weeks. But yes this deck definetly is relatively easy to stop from winning if you don´t do so in the first two turns. If anyones interested i uploaded an updated version of the deck on moxfield where i removed some inefficiencies, .

[@peteryankowsky]

Nice list man! Very different than my Razzikrrik list. Love it! :)

[@mathewdebol923]

Your deck totally caught my eye! Does your deck have a name or what’s your username and I’ll check out your updated list 😁

[@caseyandrade6417]

Why the hell aren’t K’rrik players running or at least considering Eldritch immunity/silver shroud costume to protect him in instant speed?

[@peteryankowsky]

@@caseyandrade6417 I think both of those are fantastic includes for protection in high-power. I cant speak for other pilots, but imo in cEDH, I'd rather pay 2 to recast sometimes, than 1-2 and a card slot all the time. When you're trying to go this fast, it becomes hard to justify defensive costs, especially in colorless. Not saying I am right for this opinion, just how I feel.

[@caseyandrade6417]

@@peteryankowsky Ok that’s understandable, because it’s hard to make cuts when the list is already in so tight, but I do think K’rrik is the type of deck to get robbed because poor threat assessment, so I lean towards a few more defensive cards because of that.

[@backstrokesf7560]

16. player Eisenherz, actually frequently uploads cedh videos as well

[@whiskerwhale4313]

Lets go Ian!! I'm so glad this has become something people love to support and that you have seen success with it. You are such a knowledgeable player and listening to you analyze all things cEDH has really helped me improve. Kudos to you and to much more cEDH in the future!

[@mikeconnors9287]

I've always wondered by Toggo wasn't played more often. Rocks equip for Nadu, they can be sacrificed to Barin to bounce things to control board, they sacrifice to hit many different x/2 creatures in the format including bowmaster/kinnans/esper sentials/tynmas, can tap to Urza making them manarocks which they can also then be used to fling for free as needed, and Toggo is a direct eldritch evolution to a seedborn muse/upgrade to Urza from Neoform. Hoping we see more Toggo over Rograkh, might indicate a shift to a more midrange meta again vs turbo.

[@InmAncalagon]

Great analysis of the main reasons I'm using Toggo :) The rocks are also great political tools.

[@duck_niner]

Love to see you covering a tournament from Europe ❤ Thanks a lot! I‘m the RogSi player with the Barracuda. Tested it in the slot of Conqueror’s Flail. The idea was that it‘s both basically 4 mana GA but Barracuda having the upside of giving you flash which is nice with two Necros. Even though Flail is a little bit easier to cast I overall consider Barracuda as a slight upgrade. That said Flail is card ~98-102 for me, 4 mana is a lot and I‘m testing Git Probe in the slot right now. Small comment on Grinding Station. I‘m still uncertain if I like the card. It‘s a redundant combo piece that on it’s own is very bad. And almost all combo wins with Breach I can do with just Brain Freeze. That said I‘m giving Grinding Station another try at the moment.

[@ryantice1186]

My old love YISAN in a top 4?!? Oh god does that put a smile on my face. Edit: Also my German is really rusty but I think that Kenrith list is titled “A king, a goblin, and a unicorn walk into a bar.”

[@abelmuniz7917]

x2

[@redstonepro5412]

yes, that is what the german kenrith title means

[@MSKS6]

That Evelyn list is SO spicy! Also, the primer they produced is one of the best primers I have ever written.

[@ulyssessanchez2328]

I genuinely appreciate the way you break down and show the decks. Hard to explain but having more ways too learn CEDH and seeing other decks helps me prepare 😢

[@craigrgriffin]

I'm good friends with Bow due to us being in a lot of fringe brewing places together. The commander casting synergy is part of it, and also 41% of the color pips being black, as well as it opens some unique lines using krrik where you only need a small amount of mana(I think 4 colorless?) And 26 life? To set up breach win on the spot. Beseech does some real heavy lifting with krrik. Bow is also just a madlad that plays super based decks. Hope this helps. I'll be sending him a dm in just a second 😂 ✌️

[@craigrgriffin]

He just corrected me, 2 colorless, 2 bargain targets, 2 cards in yard.

[@twhite9615]

We can tell that you love doing this, Ian. I'm so happy for you! Your insight is always something I look forward to. This is the greatest play level of the greatest format of the greatest game. The community is unmatched and you are a perfect example of why. Always good vibes!

[@mr.sizzlakMTG]

Amazing to see some of these spicy and retro picks doing so well! Especially the top 4. Really cool to get a brief glimpse at the European meta too.

[@KOKO-27]

Big congrats to Picu! That's our player! Putting Yuriko on the map in Europe!!!

[@johnweinhandl8890]

Thanks for another great video Ian and covering the Evelyn list (: Also algorithm bump

[@tylerhennessy2701]

Thank you for making the videos!!! We appreciate the hard work. Thanks for another great one!

[@AlexMTG_]

Love seeing Nanogene Conversion! Card is CRACKED. Seeing WHO cards do well is 🔥

[@morganbrewer4029]

You rock! Keep up the great work Ian!

[@nealcrabtree3647]

Im here to praise Lady Magda.

[@harrisonjoyce5477]

Great video Ian!

[@MageSkeleton]

That K'rrik, Son of Yawgmoth deck has some very interesting card choices. Dimir House Guard as it's only sacrifice outlet is risky.

[@SlimiestSlime]

So looking at that evelyn deck there are 24 lands playing into krikk engine. There's entomb, reanimate, beseech, dark ritual, culling, vamp, demonic plus the commander and countless 1 colorless 1 black cards. Ties the land count usually at that 25-26 to be slightly more aggressive I assume Edit* just read their primer and that's exactly right. Consistent 4 colorless phyrexian creature mana fixer. Like an artifact but filtered through krikk

[@FarewellOrwell]

All the decks that made it made sense

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

The name of the Krrik list translates like: I'm getting too much lol. The word "kriegen" is rather colloquial, so the pun is actually really good. Means to get, or in this case - I've seen enough, I'm done, something like that.

[@dimitriosdoulgeris4659]

Can someone provide information about when and where this tournament was organized? I'm from Germany and me and my buddy are looking for nice events like this to participate because apparently, the community isn't that big where we live - Nordrhein-Westfalen, Ruhr-Gebiet/Märkischer Kreis. Thanks!

[@ottertvmtg6229]

eyyy i played in this tournament! i was playing prime speaker vannifar, but i punted two of my games i just need more practise :)

[@thmsdrew]

The algorithm hungers. Thanks for the content, keep it up!

[@jamgostadefalar]

Hey! So, usually in Yisan you want to get Yavimaya Cradle of Growth and Gaeas Cradle(the two cradles combo) with Nylea's Intervention!

[@dytarhammelsbach8496]

Usually the games are too short to search for 2 Lands with 4 Mana, so most of the time it is a worse sylvan scrying, but sometimes you can also use the removal part to get rid of a yuriko board

[@kingsquibblebort]

Was Sperling’s top 4 with Talion really that long ago? He was on Yahenni’s expertise AND massacre

[@RexJustinLim]

The Evelyn deck actually has a primer explaining the K'rrick inclusion.

[@MusicIsAttitude]

German here. The Kenrith translation would be: A king, a goblin and a unicorn came into a bar ....

[@blaaaarrrrgMTG]

Wooooo Jhoira ❤

[@StetsonM]

Im loving the ammount of creativity and variety in these top 16s. While im early Ian im curious, in the past you did deck tech videos where you build a deck and run through your thoughts and reasons behind each card. Is this something thats offered in coaching? Ive loved tayam for about a year and a half at this point but after bowmasters it practically fell off the face of the earth. Ive been doing my own research with friends and other competitive players but itd be really nice to have someone of your caliber look at what im working with and give your thoughts on everything. That'd be priceless. If that is something youd be willing to do where could I contact you and how much would something like that cost? (im in college rn and moneys a little tight lol so it might take me a bit but ill definitely try to stay in contact if thats ok w u when im ready :> )

[@StetsonM]

I'm sorry if this isn't the right place to talk about these sorts of things im incredibly out of touch with technology and social media so I'm apologizing in advance.

[@runeserpent1449]

that carmila ad nauseum does NOT give a fuq at aaaaall lmfao!

[@d1v1nerage]

k'rrik in the evelyn list is to cast evelyn for 2 colorless i would assume

[@bowchicawowwow5815]

Currently the deck runs 23 black cards which amount to 34 of the total 82 mana symbols (41%) which all can be cost reduced by K'rrik - so it's like a supercharged birgi for black mana. The idea behind playing him is to a) filter colors and b) provide even more unexpected turbo gameplay potential where colored pips are often the bottleneck. It let's you cast commander for 2 colorless yes - but the real reason is for Beseech the mirror as it lets you win with 2 mana - 2 bargain targets and 2 cards in graveyard with a loop to find Underworld Breach and then Brainfreeze (can even respond with vamp tutor in GY to the brainfreeze triggers to put LED on top), all with just paying life basically. Besides that it layers really well with all the other black spells and because of the high density of different combo packages you can be quite aggressive with tainted pact/demonic consultation with tutoring for win cons and still be able to have an out.

[@johnweinhandl8890]

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[@johnweinhandl8890]

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[@d1v1nerage]

@@bowchicawowwow5815 okay, that is awesome. Love the tech!

[@hkeene6]

Im someone who is just now getting interested in the format - how often are these decks at big tournaments, or even smaller ones, including proxies or proxy friendly?

[@ComedIanMTG]

A number of the major tournaments with the exception of SCG and any command fest events are proxy friendly :D

[@10Pugz]

i have curious question is it normal to have in a cedh tourment are non cedh deck or not typical decks, im mean im seeing the the overview at least 10 deck that are sure high power edh but really not cedh

[@InmAncalagon]

Which ones weren't competitive? We had a number of casual and high power decks at the tournament but all decks that made top 16 were competitive.

[@diegorezi5760]

I see people top 5 in cedh using Roaming throne I remember when I started using that card and people said "no, is too slow for cedh"....haha, busteeeed

[@akroma2170]

I was wondering what you comedian or others in the community think of minsc beloved ranger? Is it viable?

[@ComedIanMTG]

It's put up results in the past, but unfortunately bowmasters hurt the decks play patterns a lot

[@stefanentzeroth9027]

I tested the baraccuda in Kinnan, so you could topdeck tutor flip into it. but dosan is just better, and I cut dosan lol

[@FrancisSalois]

Krikk in Evelyn also make her ETB ability "free" once per turn (you only pay the life to cast the card, like a mini Bolas's Citadel) That might also be why it's in there

[@jacobbower807]

Is that how it works? I don’t think K’rrik helps you cast “you may spend mana as though it were any color” type clauses….he allows you to play Phyrexian mana if and only if the cost is specifically black.

[@Fangtar666]

Where are these deck lists?

[@andrewtaylor5883]

Krrik allows for free Necro and 1 mana Beseech [?]

[@ConnorPlaysTCG]

Was this event proxy friendly?

[@K0L1]

Good question

[@bowchicawowwow5815]

yes it was

[@christianroberts1121]

2 mana jhoira is all I want to see!!! Jk keep up the good work!

[@TripsAhoy]

Hoping there were no Scat Decks! 😂

[@blaaaarrrrgMTG]

Uuuuuhhhhh... that Jhoira list isnt running any wheels to win off the breach lines. Does it just.... pass turn lol?

[@InmAncalagon]

Not the pilot but I would assume you use Walking Ballista and infinite mana to win or mill every out, exile graveyards, bounce everything including lands with Words of Wind and pass turn.

[@collint957]

If anyone is reading this id appreciate a response, I'm looking for a deck to get back into cedh, I had lots of success with kinnan but then everyone started playing it and I got bored of it, I want a fun off meta deck, if you got any ideas id love to hear it!

[@Lorry_Draws]

I've fallen in love with Marath the past few weeks. Machine Gun your opponents creatures while attacking with your own. Sacrificing the Tokens you make, buffing your guys, he does it all. Highly reccomend. He works Fantastically with generous patron too. Been winning me a lot of games lately

[@MisterWebb]

@@Lorry_DrawsCheck Kuma the Bear’s Marath stax list - the man is a genius.

[@MisterWebb]

I gave up on Kinnan for the same reason. I recently switched to Ashling, Flame Dancer - first time I’ve ever built mono-red and it’s ultra-fun!

[@MrWader76]

Geralf the fleshwright

[@Lorry_Draws]

@@MisterWebb cheere webb, it does look fun. I have contemplated stax, however I already have Tayam for that. My Marath is all about fast mana, card draw and threatening as many wins as I can while machine gunning threats The list is called 'Machine Gun Marath' if you're interested. I have yet to take it to a tournament, but it does very well in my pod

[@K0L1]

Hi all! Is there any server/page idk where i can found list(links?) to upcoming cEDH tournaments(Europe)? I see all time only reports but never know about event before it happen i would like to travel to any 🥲 thanks