NFS Payback vs NFS Unbound (Physics Graphics and Race)

#1 Suspension 0:05
#2 People 2:36
#3 Physics 3:15
#4 Graphics 4:09
#5 Car Graphics 4:51
#6 Car Sound and 5:59
#7 Max car damage 6:32
#8 Racing 6:51
#9 Can the bots and the main character talk? 7:56

[@COMEDYSTYLEGAMES]

#1 Suspension 0:05 #2 People 2:36 #3 Physics 3:15 #4 Graphics 4:09 #5 Car Graphics 4:51 #6 Car Sound and 5:59 #7 Max car damage 6:32 #8 Racing 6:51 #9 Can the bots and the main character talk? 7:56

[@designelevation1149]

do this with nfs heat

[@smolltaco5667]

@TDU Pursuit Heat it has physics, just because they are arcade like doesnt mean they arent there

[@DualPerformance]

Mafia 2, and even GTA 5 with worse physics than GTA 4 are better than this 0:20

[@Crownerased]

@@DualPerformance you expect to fling in the air when you drive On a higher surface? Clown

[@xzraiderzx308]

0:50 “is this more realistic or not?” While the Payback X6 is clipping half way through the barrier

[@djmarkatmakesmusic]

So true

[@xzraiderzx308]

@@djs.b9702 ty for pointing out the typo

[@raionshishi8290]

I would say Unbound is slightly more realistic even if you don't usually get stuck on that, it's more realistic than the clipping and sudden instant jump up from payback. High center is a real thing anyway so Unbound seems to make that seem to be the case more accurately.

[@Falco_e46]

Awd car should get stuck though

[@CeeDeeLmao]

Its from 2017 give it a break

[@hitune]

I hate how easy it is to break a metal guardrail in unbound. Those things are solid in real life, takes a high speed to get through it (if you miss a post holding it in the ground) but unbound you can just drive through it like a piece of string

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

There's so many things you can do in nfs that you can't do in irl 💀

[@hitune]

@@igotnoodlesgold9193 yeah but things like this break the immersion the barriers should be stronger

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

@@hitune you play play Forza for stuff like that not nfs

[@ididntmeantoshootthatvietn5012]

Yeah whats the point? It made the game to damn easy

[@alim7502]

It's to make the game feel a bit more "open" as I would put it Forza started doing this too since Horizon 4

[@timiracko6317]

0:51 nahhh its probably more realistic to have a small amount of explosive under the axles to lift your car up a sidewalk

[@KuroNeko_-]

lol

[@LunaTheBean24]

Yes yes, its a must-have nowadays

[@sonic3ze]

8:24 Pictures taken just before disaster...

[@13D00_]

In Unbound it’s basically always a video of disaster lol.

[@yrrr4871]

Unbound finish be like "ohh he crashed ohh lets zoom in we got to see that up close!" Lol

[@NoName-xe8cd]

Nfs payback psychics just more realistic. Instead of just blowing up, they are literally broke in payback

[@nitopygameplays]

Well yes it it, but some downgrades had to be made to make the game a stable 60fps since a lot more is also going on in unbound.

[@emaadally5658]

How’s payback has better physics? Well unbound has some not only drift but now you can build yourself grip builds. Cars that grip instead of drift at least that’s somewhat realistic but still they’re all arcade games.

[@nitopygameplays]

@@emaadally5658 from the context of the comment, I'm pretty sure he meant breaking of barriers/fences and how they just disappear in unbound.

[@emaadally5658]

@@nitopygameplays ohh ok , got you.

[@k.r.99]

@@emaadally5658 you could already do that in NFS 2015 (you could slide between full drift or full grip or set multiple sliders towards either drift or grip)

[@lgz2006]

The comparison entirely is quite impressive, especially the graphics and sound design, not to mention, physics.

[@StudentDriverBR]

0:15 AWD left the chat

[@Makinohara-Shouko]

In the end it's a racing game not openworld gta so not every non-racing related detail and physics matter

[@johncarlofernandez2698]

It should matter at some point. You wanna immerse yourself to illegal street racing then you gotta get the right feeling for the game's world. A car's suspension reacting properly to a bump isn't that too much to ask for and I'm glad Unbound thought of that.

[@rau1488]

Exactly, it's not GTA, that means the cars should be twice as detailed and have better physics than GTA's

[@duahaun123]

It does matter if you're paying $70

[@b.1570]

I disageee, just because it's a racing game doesn't it mean cannot be classified an open world game. They have been doing this since Underground 2 being the first open world NFS game Take for exemple the Driver games from the PS1. Most of the time you're racing against the time or running away from the police. Yet similar to GTA but the main focus of Driver are the driving and the chases.

[@AnJelloSnaccy]

If you don't mind, can you do a part 2 of this? I would like to see more comparisons like; Max dirt (similar to max damage), Nitrous (how it exits the exhaust), Burnouts, Tire marks (when doing burnouts, drifting, or braking), AI's road sense (when coming in an intersection, do they stop? And if you were to drive normally, are they going the speed limit? I found Payback's speed to be really slow, around 25 mph, give or take), Ragdoll/Crash Physics, Turbo Flutter, Wheelies, etc

[@pokellector_nl6712]

Ok Mr. Director

[@savage5757]

4:55 I didn't get it. is the lighting just a little different here, or do they really re-draw models from them and the same cars every time?

[@drifzyy]

the only thing i liked about payback was the canyon roads for drifting.. everything else i was completely fine with. or hated.

[@Morgorath30]

Mhmmm off road was ass.

[@basicallyimtomss]

@@Morgorath30 payback off road is still better than heat off road. at least payback had a lot of challenging circuits like the ones where you had to go trough the canyons, while most of the circuits in heat were all in wide open areas

[@sambeezy007]

Drifting in Payback is the best. Heat has everything else.

[@aliens8mybaby]

Great video I subscribed

[@manoel6728]

I really liked Payback, in my opinion it's the second best NFS of the last generation after Rivals, too bad the game had so many microtransactions.

[@TomClancy-cq5om]

Did they ever fix that? Really wanted to play it, but that turned me off on it

[@manoel6728]

@@TomClancy-cq5om It's been a few years since I last played and the microtransactions were completely optional but they were still there, I can't check now as my console has stopped working

[@JAYV45_]

Rivals is not need for speed with 0 story and dumb af power ups. But i agree payback is real good

[@manoel6728]

@@JAYV45_ I don't care much about the story because they aren't very good in racing games, my favorite NFS is Hot Porsuit too, no story, just racing, same thing with Bornout and Blur, I like the powers of Rivals and is the closest game to Hot Porsuit.

[@ralcolfwolfcoon8207]

Payback is ass. Whoever says it's good may want to look a little closer.

[@gamezonevideo282]

Nice video , please do another one with Nfs Heat vs Unbound.

[@clarksonoceallachain8536]

Payback perhaps has the best vehicular weight physics It got the runner stuff aswell

[@jase18405]

In NFS Payback it is actually possible that bots talk to you during the race but only the gang leaders. I don't know how it is in Unbound but at least you have some talks in Payback.

[@itstoucann]

in unbound theres race dialogue with whoever you betted against, and also if you pass someone or crash into them

[@Boba_Fett1980]

Honestly payback did it better when it comes to racer dialogue, unbound has more but it’s nothing but cringey shit like “I’m not about to let you take my money!” And many other things that are cringe… even our character says a lot of cringey things

[@aarons0z992]

@@Boba_Fett1980 even the cops are corny af now

[@Boba_Fett1980]

@@aarons0z992 they had an almost perfect cop system in heat, but criterion doesn’t know what the fuck they’re doing and instead of perfecting heats cops decided to throw them away and replace them with their extremely annoying at best unbound cops. Can’t believe it’s the same developers who made hot pursuit, which has an infinitely superior cop system

[@raionshishi8290]

@@Boba_Fett1980 I disagree, Payback dialogue is way more cheesy. It's not even close.

[@autoblog23]

nsf payback is always in the heart

[@smolltaco5667]

Keep those microtransactions to yourself

[@Simon-S01104]

​@@smolltaco5667 maybe that's not why, but I know how micro transactions ruined the game...

[@michaelarkell5437]

Nfs Payback with Nfs Unbound Drifting physics would be great

[@grivorteks2535]

Payback, the last time without bullshit car's life bar... also, almost nothing separates the two for the graphics, in 5 years.

[@rainegingerfish8860]

You’re clearly blind then

[@grivorteks2535]

@@rainegingerfish8860 Well when you zoom to 10cm in front of some textures, theres a difference in the blur, thats all. I won't call that much...

[@sambeezy007]

​@Raine Gingerfish The graphics aren't dramatically changing anymore. Now if you compare the PS1 to PS2. You can easily see the difference. Today? Not so much

[@satsumagt5284]

I love how they pretty much nailed the S63B44T2 sound

[@pengladiator3580]

dude chose the one spot in payback where the curb did that with that one vehicle

[@rb76768]

Second song name?? You credited only first and third song...

[@5GmotorSPORTS]

In reality if you have coilovers your wheel don't sag like it did in nfs they actually stay close to the wheel well.

[@RamilGalliamov]

Every time when I watch such a video, I want to ask to add additional comparison with a real car :) It will be cool to see how the real car reacts to the same actions:))

[@akawurrstwasser6484]

The first thing was legit just 1 of the few spots where it glitches like that😂 usually it's all fine and has a normal hitbox

[@libra-666]

the physics in both game are designed for high speed hitting effect?? im i right?

[@cyber_arbuz]

What music is in 3:30?

[@huntersandtargets]

ihr vergleicht im erst... welcher schrott besser ist???

[@sergiobustos8694]

NFS Payback with the ''Sutututu Mod'' its just a masterpiece. I really enjoyed that game, Race are kinda complicated and sense of speed is OP... BTW, We are all wrong if we are searching for realism in a NFS game

[@sambeezy007]

Yes. It was never meant to be like Forza, GT or others. But Criterion just keep on making pseudo Burnout games

[@JeovahLovesYou]

And the police saying "this guy can't drive" when you crash during a chase is hilarious in Unbound

[@Grandmaquil]

whats the music 3:15

[@nomanssouls1957]

I love the details and graphics and physics in unbound. But i don't have the game yet😢😢😢

[@drifzyy]

you'll get it soon my guy

[@JINX-RSA]

Soon brother

[@AnkitKumar-jl5bp]

Don't worry bro repacks are coming soon

[@nomanssouls1957]

You missed the cop details but overall great video.

[@jimmymccann5891]

payback made in 2017 vs unbound made in 2022

[@Tommy712rus]

Nhf hot pursuit from 2000 has better physics.

[@Jason_Bover9000]

Why people use motion blur

[@noahwalsh7881]

*When I Saw The Thumbnail, I Thought He Was Doing A Wheelie, I Wanted To Find Out How XD*

[@sline9994]

RIP NFS the best NFS MOSTWANTED,CARBON,THE RUN the old is the best ❤️

[@tiashlegrand1172]

unerground was good too

[@wrench_in]

Hhah F

[@ashish_sh]

True

[@sambeezy007]

Most Wanted 05 is overrated. The majority of fans played it on console back then without mods. It isn't good. Its only good now probably because of the mods. Shows how bad a game is if you have to modify it

[@joshyjoshy2022]

Nobody gonna talk about the calipers that one is facing the wrong direction

[@yrrr4871]

3:40 Bro playing Minecraft (On the right)

[@nasuvoid]

unbound’s graphics is most colorful but payback is looks more realistic

[@smolltaco5667]

nope

[@ashish_sh]

Unbound looks cartoonish

[@spotlight9269]

More realistic: Jumping 100 m long wothout having any problem

[@BleezyMonkey]

honestly the overall driving, atmosphere, world and musics of payback is my favourite in last 4 nfs games, and the only one that i fully finished %100. only if it idnt have that stupid gambling system for builds it could be the best nfs

[@aidenhowe4815]

Payback is actually better looking with chrome but unbound has better reflections. Payback has an exaggerated but rewarding drift system that actually works really well.

[@jandrobahgat3241]

can you please do nfs heat vs nfs payback?

[@aliens8mybaby]

Not to mention, the have no sound fades or blending in Unbound... its a horrible audio mess as well

[@ewertos11]

NFS Carbon has the best bot reactions in my opinion. Im talking about racing with leaders. Anything you do will have a reaction

[@ghostrus]

Of the new NFS, I liked NFS PAYBACK the most

[@Neymar_Mr]

Let's go

[@antoniocarlosmoita1937]

Physics is simply ridiculous in this game!

[@echln3209]

My problem with Unbound is lighting. The graphics are better but areas that should be dark like radiators, brakes etc. look like they are shone with the sun regardless of where you are. Like in a tunnel for example

[@smolltaco5667]

The lighting is a bit off but it looks good, and if i remember correctly that doesnt happen when you are in a tunnel or dark area

[@AxE_15]

докажи

[@Spheredalai]

ah great, comparing something that is what? 7 years apart? so much happened in that span of time bro, not surprised

[@micharozniakowski5418]

they unironically use single straight raycast for wheel positioning. Wow.

[@SayantanGamerz]

NFS payback ❤️

[@Bubahadr]

I'm so sad to see what happens to NFS... Used to be one of the best racing arcades. Now? Even Forza Horizon 3 (2016) works better then these 2.

[@DelphoxNotFound]

And it looks like Horizon is following the same path. What game will save us now?

[@pro_wheelchair]

@@DelphoxNotFound hope the crew will be better

[@tutulatutu1237]

​@@DelphoxNotFound maybe test drive unlimited crown or perhaps the fan base community deciding to create it's own game

[@Bloomsberrybubble]

nah NFS crap since PSone era, what they sell just graphics

[@boii9381]

@@Bloomsberrybubble that first part is a lie and you know it

[@ioium299]

2:46 did you mean funny or horrible?

[@H982_FKL]

No "It depends" here. Unbound wins.

[@youtubewatcher8244]

If they could just give us this game at forza level quality it'd be great

[@BEYOND-EGO]

0:56 x6m is 4 wheel drive it wont stuck there in reality

[@Altopelirrojo]

Payback & Heat - Win :)

[@p0tat0o]

Payback has the best (and most beautiful) map IMO

[@lucavivarelli3218]

The best NFS of recent times is definitely NFS2015

[@sunshinedrummer1]

You're forgetting Heat

[@yrrr4871]

Nah

[@lucavivarelli3218]

The 2015 graphics are the most realistic ever used in an NFS, It has real characters in the game that belong to the racing world, and the cars themselves don't look like toys, they are massive and better done than nfs heat and all the others

[@ralcolfwolfcoon8207]

Graphics don't mean shit if the gameplay is good. And this one ain't, and was very disappointed

[@ojim4343]

Cap

[@thunderlizzard2268]

may have underrated unbond ngl

[@Fade2005]

I just don’t like how they reuse the same street lights and traffic lights over and over. Jus a small detail I’ve noticed

[@Alex_Terror]

Вопрос к автору видео ? А что ты не сравних унбаунд с хот порсуит 1 ..... то же мне чудо сравнитель. С учетом того как идет развитие видео игр и возможности . Сравнивать его надо с нфс хит.....

[@user-vy8oc9bj4m]

так эти три части нфс одного поля ягоды, копировать - вставить

[@Karim_Shaiakhmetov]

They wanted to turn nfs to forza, but they crashed

[@waleedwael4967]

Unbound vs heat 🔥

[@sambeezy007]

Heat. Better: - progression - cop aggression - money payouts - nitrous - no car class restrictions (freedom]

[@amirlevin3899]

good car choice

[@gamer_7054]

What happened to NFS heat

[@marklouiesalvador6599]

Oh wow this is so awesome need for speed

[@TheMetalArts755]

Best song in nfs payback

[@Se-Vention]

I wish they could do better with the song in unbound, most of them sound like from SoundCloud

[@iamkelz6047]

P.O.S - Gravedigger

[@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696]

So after all the game just reused most materials from the previous games, my theory, they first exist in rivals, rivals, 2015, payback, heat, unbound are just the same game with different scripts and art style

[@hawken796]

Not uncommon in gaming. Nfs undercover used assets from hot pursuit 2 onwards, gta 5 still has some san andreas scripts in its code and assassins creed Valhalla still has code from unity.

[@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696]

@@hawken796 I know but I mean, these modern nfs games are just way to similar under the cover, the rendering, the textures, even the handling, physics

[@hawken796]

@@lhoujikasdfbjklfasdhbjkas7696 that's because they use the same engine. They refine/tweak things with each iteration rather than rewriting it, if they would do that, it would take them an entire extra two years to release a game.

[@drw_predator]

I used to play the heck outta EVERY SINGLE NFS game that came out... Even this unbound But it's FORZA rules this genre now

[@ItzCruizStation]

Something that I really dislike about unbound is the anime like characters. They don't go well with the realistic graphics.

[@Nick_MG]

Idk man, that's the aesthetic.

[@igotnoodlesgold9193]

I don't mind cuz it's not even like i even look at my character or pay attention to it 🤷‍♂️

[@MrBossFML]

I feel like if they wanted to go with the aesthetic they should of actually went with it, the cars and graphics should of been anime like too, it really just feels like a mod was placed over NFS heat

[@lieutenantcandlewax]

It’s not anime 🤦‍♂️

[@psylina]

@@Nick_MG Bad aesthetic then

[@stangz1ma]

lmao the game devs put the upscaling option not as "DLSS" but as "DLSS Super Resolution"

[@Noor_yousef_the_jaguar]

Competition is hard though

[@NICKFFCLIPES]

Ghost games: Realism Criterion: takedown

[@mrpickels98]

what i hate in nfs unbound is you can drive through almost everything like guardrail is like made from lego

[@preventorascender5170]

Inbound’s graphics is that what we need. Payback and Heat are not even on the same level 2015’s graphics

[@drifzyy]

"inbound" 💀

[@ItzCruizStation]

Something that I really dislike about unbound is the anime like characters. They don't go well with the realistic graphics.

[@preventorascender5170]

@@drifzyy f*cking t9

[@JINX-RSA]

​@@ItzCruizStationi kinda like it.its soemthing new and its actually cool.but I totally understand if there is people that dont like it its 100% a valid point

[@skall_aka_sale_skilly_le_grand]

@@ItzCruizStation i got used to it and kinda like it now tbh

[@korbiam]

FH5 in this moments: 😵

[@ashtraysonsundays4274]

I absolutely hate the vignette in NFS Payback. It completely fucks with the lighting and color grading

[@GHOSTNIT3]

If it comes to the suspension and graphics unbound takes the cake but with physics and the details on the NPCs and charactes payback's got it. Unbound's NPCs looks like something from genshin impact 😂. I'm not saying its bad tho I like the style of it. It's like a sort of anime style. But not realistic as payback. It doesn't bother me but you get those picky players. both has they're ups and downs It's kinda like a 50/50 in my opinion. But it can just be me

[@Greendasteel]

2020 2022 wheels go through textures... omg... wheels have collision only in middle of tire...

[@user-pe7gr1ek3e]

2017 vs 2022 genius

[@Overhead_Official]

Let's just not do that again 😅 Got me

[@DomXmoz_Official]

Bruh Unbound effects tire smoke or use NOS.. wtf O.o

[@vemanjadhav]

I don't understand the joy in seeing if the two NFS titles are realistic or not. The whole point of NFS is that it's supposed to be arcady and not realistic.

[@sambeezy007]

Exactly. Want realism? Go play Forza. Want fun and arcade? NFS. There's a reason Mario Kart is the all time great racing franchise alongside NFS. Arcade fun.

[@viper.]

I never really liked the payback map ngl

[@drifzyy]

i only liked the canyon.. thats it

[@yrrr4871]

Payback's map was pretty cool imo. It was way better than Heat's map

[@psylina]

@@yrrr4871 Not as detailed and good looking as heat's

[@yrrr4871]

@@psylina Heat's map was better looking but felt kind of plain and empty driving around. Payback had better roads, mountain views, and a better city

[@hawken796]

@@yrrr4871 nah heat was designed for racing, payback was way too open ended to be fun for racing. Canyons were good tho.

[@reze4809]

Originally, it should be compared to heat.

[@Destro844]

I'm choosing payback bc atleast ik I don't have to buy a ps5 or new Xbox to play nfs payback

[@kauandesu6440]

Ps2 L.A Rush/midnight club 3/L.A/flatout 2/UC/BURNOUT 3/Revenge/Paradise>>>>>>>>>NFS 2015=NFS PAYBACK=NFS HEAT=NFS UNBOUND

[@86lanzo]

is it me or is it weird talking about realism when there's anime things in the game

[@wimblesoft]

0:32 This is happening cuz Nvidia PhysX Vehicles using single raytrace below suspension joint. And I believe EA is using PhysX Vehicles for new racing games. Here's some example for difference reference: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a2O4pJmNpdytkNk

[@wimblesoft]

Both games lazy coding cuz PhysX Vehicles is a simple package. I can clearly say that EA developers didn't put too much effort on vehicle dynamic. All calculated by PhysX Vehicles SDK.

[@rogerwilleford1551]

I mean how high are your expectations? It's a NFS title. It's not gran turismo. Or forza. Or project cars or asetto corsa. It's not a simple racing game. It's supposed to be fun and arcade style. I feel like both games had good and bad things.

[@sa7r323]

0:23 👌

[@f1fanatic498]

This confirms why EA will never, ever produce a solid title that people will play for years on end. From both games - everything is just sub-par and clearly rushed. All just a cash grab, and I’m sad it killed the greatness of what NFS used to be.

[@MefistOGamer2016]

After fh5 i just can't look at it :P

[@bernieduenas4199]

M3 GTR horns literally sound the same

[@chickennugget7489]

Unbound would be a great game if they put a little more time and effort instead of rushing to release it.

[@spheresack8376]

I lost 80k bc my car flipped and a tree got caught in between my trunck and spoiler. I was stuck and got arrested.

[@CRASH2BANDICOOT]

Если не смотреть на разрыв во времени выхода игр, то разрешение текстур в Unbound на порядок выше, однако и производительность стала хуже. В целом игровой процесс Unbound вышел на новый уровень. В эту игру хочется играть не отрываясь, за это большое уважение разработчикам. Мне очень нравился Payback, но Unbound мне нравится больше. P.s. да и раньше все проекты Criterion Games мне всегда заходили, разработчики большие молодцы, надеюсь EA их поддержит, ведь если бы не они, ЕА ждала бы тоже судьба, что и Ubisoft

[@andrewstudebaker600]

NFS: Underground (2003) NFS: Underground 2 (2004) NFS: Most Wanted (2005) NFS: Carbon (2006) NFS: ProStreet (2007) NFS: Undercover (2008) NFS: Shift (2009) NFS: Hot Pursuit (2010) NFS: Shift 2 / The Run (2011) NFS: Most Wanted (2012) NFS: Rivals (2013) NFS (2015) **NFS: Payback (2017)** NFS: Heat (2019) **NFS: Unbound (2022)**