Comic Books I've Recently LOST MONEY On | COMIC BOOK INVESTMENTS

[@Hectekk]

Appreciate the transparency. Makes channel that much better.

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Thanks. Glad you liked it

[@seanashby65]

same here on the shang chi /cgc took so damn long to grade it / the market turned / for now im gonna hold it unless i see a buyer

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Ya it will come back around again

[@thomasmauritsen687]

Thanks for this video , don't often get to see the 'lost out side' which we probably all can relate to. Particularly like the reasoning and calculations as to why. Keen to see more, thanks! 👍👍

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Thanks. Ya I figure if I can explain why this happened. It will help other people

[@mauricedevereaux6573]

Thank you David, this makes us all feel less alone when we mess up on a purchase/sale etc. As most people only talk about their wins. But like in sports, stocks or poker it does not matter how good you are, you will lose sometimes.

[@cardsandcomics]

X-men 4 had like 1 million copies sold, its everywhere

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Ya there are a ton of it

[@LiquidWeapon]

It's generally a 9.8 or bust. It's the worst when the market value is less than the cost to have a conic graded (i.e. including purchase price, shipping fees, and selling fees).

[@cardsandcomics]

@@LiquidWeapon yeah I don't get grading new comics right after release. You have no idea what it's going to bring

[@bobmatteis4130]

Hey I even sold my Hulk 181 8.0 for only $1100 a few years ago. Fantastic four 1 3.5 $5000 fantastic four 48 9.4 $3000. Yes this is Bob in Connecticut I was at the New York City con on Friday. My friend owns Metropolis Comics and he told me my amazing fantasy 15 6.0 is definitely $100,000. I was offered $25,000 for my journey into mystery 83 6.0 I bought that years ago for $300. I was offered that from one of the dealers. Or he would give me $8000 plus all star comics 8 .5 for the Thor . I would really love the all star comics because it’s very very rare I know the book is very bad shape but the first appearance of wonder woman has a very low population.🥳🥳🥳

[@ComicBookInvestments]

I had an all star 8. It took awhile to sell. I think keeping the JIM would be better in my opinion

[@bobmatteis4130]

@@ComicBookInvestments Yes thanks for your advice no I did not sell my journey into mystery 83 6.0. I only paid $300 about 12 years ago. So I told you I could get at least $25,000 right away if I need the money I don’t work at all I told you before when I need money I just sell a comic book. And I have New York Yankee tickets every year but I don’t do anything in the winter time because my last girlfriend made movies magazine covers she passed away.

[@bobmatteis4130]

@@ComicBookInvestments To tell you the truth I know you had lots of great books but I hate to tell you you don’t have to work at all if you had those kind of comic books. You can’t take those to your grave so I have to think when should I sell my tales of suspense 39 8.5 I know that’s $100,000 amazing fantasy 15 6.0 yes that’s $100,000 amazing fantasy 15 8.0 restored no trimming yes that’s over $50,000 X-Men 1 7.0 that’s over $50,000 fantastic four 48 9.6 that’s $40,000 amazing Spiderman 1 6.5 that’s another $30,000 and I still have my superman and Batman 1 they are both 5.0 restored but the superman has no trimming. These books I still have I sold most of my books because I’m never going to work again and I don’t have a dime in the bank.😳😳😳

[@bobmatteis4130]

@@ComicBookInvestments there is little more than 100 copies of all star comics 8 Blue label I don’t care if I am getting a .5 because the book is very rare you never see that at the cons . So how much do you think my journey into mystery 83 6.0 cream to off-white pages is really worth I was offered $25,000 from a few people at the New York comicon on Friday.

[@gokid]

I bought a Special Marvel Edition #15 CGC 7.0 for WAY too much at the peak right during the film premiere. Lesson = learned...

[@ComicBookInvestments]

I know its all about timing

[@MajestixComicsClix]

Oh, you sold too soon on FF94, Agatha Harkness confirmed (I think) she will be getting her own show. 1st Shang Chi is a long long term hold, right? He will be a major character in the Avengers and he will have a sequel... You should do a follow up on these two books (especially FF94 if the show is realized).

[@jacobbornowsky4013]

The big problem with Shang chi is the actor is banned in China for making negative comments about the Chinese government so if they put him in future movies they will also not show those as well including any avenger project…. Disney needs that China money.. they need to get that situation settled 🤷

[@MajestixComicsClix]

@@jacobbornowsky4013 sounds like you’re implying that because of this they will kill any future projects with him and that’s why this is going down? I don’t see that happening. I also think that the China thing sucks but it won’t make or break the spec if they still have big plans for the franchise and the character in other movies/shows. Shang Chi right now, like Venom are on the “cycle,” meaning they will drop a lot until the next big thing with them is announced and it will spike hard again. I will definitely will be picking up more of these on the (very) cheap it seems, until it comes back around to the second movie or any other project he is in (same with Venom)

[@jacobbornowsky4013]

@@MajestixComicsClix 👍 nice

[@joesmith9483]

my ff 94 was 25 bucks and near mint to boot. purchased a few years ago before covid

[@kryptoniterocks8245]

My rule of thumb on a book.. Don't go on a ride with a book unless it's got legs in the past. Agatha wasn't a big key issue before so what would make her one later? and some who jumped on that train are now getting burned..

[@RonSM2112]

Although I'm inclined to agree, there IS a converse to this argument that Agatha was an underated and overlooked character. There's a happy medium in there somewhare. But I agree that the notion recently that EVERYTHING is a key is a bit silly.

[@LiquidWeapon]

I get first character appearances, but tend to scratch my head at firsts for locations, weapons, meet-ups and team-ups, etc.

[@DanielGoldMcduckRose]

Shagchi will be back might have been good too hold long term

[@ComicBookInvestments]

I think it is good long term for sure

[@DanielGoldMcduckRose]

@@ComicBookInvestments I this whole collection with 8.0 for his first app. I think shang chi did well but once it's on Disney plus the character will get some ♥️ and they didn't get to show it in China yet

[@mikeswiental4815]

i have some advice to you from myself. I have been collecting comics since 1963. i also have been investing in the stock market since 1995. today, if i wanted to invest in stock, i would NOT buy 1 share of amazon, for 3,500 dollars, i would but 30 shares each of at%t,30 shares of hewald packet 30 shares of xerox etc. ...i would not tie up much money on any one item. You are thinking, but that is what i am doinng,buying different issues...no..you are buying different amazon stocks..so , what i am saying is to make big bucks in the future,the way things are now with CGC being slow,etc, i would buy dozens of lowerer grade popualr silver age titles . you can still buy silver age avengers fantastic four, iron man for under 30 dollars each...who cares what grade they are- if you buy them YOU have them and some one else does not and one day they will want those. 10 years ago i was picking up golden age super man and siver age fantastic four for under 5 dollars a piece.

[@TT-fq7pl]

FF 94 just seems like so many other books that rely on movies/TV for most of their value. If your timing isn't just right, you will almost certainly lose money. My question is this: will the same reasoning apply even to early ASM after the next movie has come and gone? Everyone says, early ASM is always a great buy, but will the first appearances of all those villains remain so hot post the next movie? Somehow I doubt it. What do you think?

[@scottschram5178]

Early ASM's are always a good buy. Doesn't matter if he's in the MCU or not. Doesn't matter if a movie is coming out or not either.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@scottschram5178 Not exactly what I'm asking. What I'm asking is this: will the prices of even early ASM drop after the next movie has come out? Of course they'll always hold some value, but the current prices seem very much tied to the movies.

[@scottschram5178]

@@TT-fq7pl We're not really seeing any villains on the big screen for the first time so I personally don't feel there will be a drop after movie comes out. The villains are already established and their early appearances will hold their value.

[@TT-fq7pl]

@@scottschram5178 Thanks for the response. I guess I'm just finding it hard to believe that my copies of ASM 5 and 6 are worth over 6k combined! It's pretty shocking. Even my 3.5 #7 is worth over a grand now, according to the latest EBay sales. Let's just say I won't be buying other early ASM anytime soon, and, if you're right, I likely never will.

[@scottschram5178]

So these days I just look for nice-ish grade non- key later silver/early bronze ASMs. I do the same for X-Men too. Have three CGC copies of X-men #11. Sure hope The Stranger shows up in the MCU one day.......

[@davidsamuelson2089]

Harkness should be getting confirmed for her own D+ show soon. Though $300 for a 7 is no too bad.

[@Comicbookyoutubersrock]

Yeah, 1st Agatha is definitely a hold book at the moment. With her show now confirmed.

[@Vp-jt3vl]

Sucks when it does happen, but hey that's life!

[@breakbeatz309]

Wow, FF 94 sold like CRAZY on 10/7 after months being dormant. Was there an announcement I missed?

[@ComicBookInvestments]

I haven't heard anything. could be literally one person specing on the book

[@carnivalhands2884]

Can you write this off as a loss since this is your business?

[@SilverGoldComics]

Does your "buy" price include CGC fees? If not, those sales were brutal after another $30-$50 in CGC fees and 2-way postage. Thanks for sharing and showing the dangers of specing! BTW looking back, if you didn't send to CGC, held for a couple weeks, and sold raw, would you have made money ,or at least lost less?

[@ComicBookInvestments]

yes they include all my cgc fee costs

[@jarredsmith4629]

That sucks that you lost money and it makes no sense why keys that aren't even in movies go up so much so that is why i am going for older books like silver age and bronze age unless i can get modern keys cheap cause there is always that risk that they will not hold there value.

[@thecorporatelawgroup7093]

The pictures on your videos are priceless.

[@TheComicsDen]

Great video .

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Thanks

[@davidwarring1572]

I bought ff 94 for 5 bucks raw 8.5 marvel special edition raw for 35 bucks now cgc 9.4 I have 5 copies if nm 1st omega red paid a dollar a piece.

[@davidsamuelson2089]

A 9.6 non-newsstand on an extraordinarily high of the run book like XM4 hurts. A lot. Omega Red also not appearing hurt.

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Ya it does

[@JasonParkerComics]

Think a lot of people lost out on these books. We all got xmen 4 thinking Omega Red will appear in FATWS. lol. Unlucky dude. We’ve all been there.

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Ya but if it would have gotten that 9.8. Then it would have done well

[@JasonParkerComics]

@@ComicBookInvestments like you say long time to wait to resubmit.

[@LiquidWeapon]

Looks like your buy-in was pretty high on the first two and the value trend essentially hit a plateau and then decline shortly after purchasing. The challenge is being on these before they rise. Omega Red was just an unfortunate outcome, but too bad you couldn't submit as part of a pre-screen submission. I feel the risk is too high not to pre-screen if the 9.8 value is less than or around $200.

[@speccollector9740]

Love that you're showing some losses as they are part of the game. I've quite a few . I take them for books that I feel have changed fundamentals or can't see any bigger upside on....and sometimes just to take a loss to offset gains......like stocks. Those weren't too bad. You've had Giant wins.

[@moodswing4460]

Poor timing on Agatha. Book will mostly spike again with the show coming out. I think she is a poor character to spec on though.

[@kryptoniterocks8245]

FOMO will get folks everytime!!!! Stay away from it... Mephisto ring a bell!!

[@thecomicbookundergroundllc3506]

Turnaround times are death to a lot of Spec or trending books, this is why I don't buy or invest in Spec books or variants.

[@ComicCollectorGeek]

You can't win them all. Strange that you lost on FF94. There are rumors that the character will have her own series.

[@jayward7549]

Buy a bunch of 2017 shoei ohtani ..grade 10 when cheap. !..sorry about altering the subject on you! Lol.. enjoy

[@toysandgames1275]

You win some and you lose some!

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Exactly. More wins then losses

[@toysandgames1275]

@@ComicBookInvestments That’s awesome!

[@davidsamuelson2089]

Mid grades on Shang Chi are crippling. Bronze Age mid-grade post film is crushing. The market moves too fast for anything but truly high grade on anything newer than early Silver.

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Ya it’s so up and down. Gotta be quick. And cgc taking so long doesn’t help

[@davidsamuelson2089]

@@ComicBookInvestments I feel that CGC should have a completely different grading methodology for any book that’s not considered modern age. They should be charged a higher fee, which they are, however, they should also have their own specials tier and timeline where it doesn’t have to take up 6 to 9 months in the grading because they’re all sitting behind some other dopey guy’s invincible Iron Man 7 of 800 copies.

[@shaheedali651]

Those books will go back up sometime next year. Especially omega red

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Ya but I can’t sit on books for years. Gotta move them. So a lot of times I’m put between a rock and hard place with the current comic market

[@bradkoski]

I wouldn’t have paid that much for any of those 3 issues…..😂😂

[@scottschram5178]

As Jules in Pulp Fiction said, "Check out the big brain on Brad!"

[@tomiejones5858]

😅

[@clayquartermain3339]

@@scottschram5178 I’ve long suspected Brad is David Samuelsson’s even more negative burner account…

[@marioch4259]

Agatha will have a Disney + show now, you may have lost an opportunity here again

[@ComicBookInvestments]

well I cant wait for another 2-3 years for it to peak again, might as well move onto the next thing

[@Spaceageplaya03]

U only lose money when u sell. U need patience in your life

[@ComicBookInvestments]

This is true. But It might take 6mo- a year for it to profitable again. At that point. It might not be worth waiting

[@Spaceageplaya03]

Everyone has different investment strategies. All my investments are a minimum of a 5 year plan. To each their own

[@clayquartermain3339]

You also lose money when you hold on to something stagnating for too long when the money could be earning. If David put any of these losses into good books, they have a chance to do more business before any Agatha show even starts shooting. Selling to buy, as David does, is completely different than selling for cash.

[@aaronr7112]

Cgc turnaround tines are a joke.

[@nighttigercomics7323]

Dorry for your loss brother but this is probably not the best content to put out if you're wanting to give out investment advice in the future.

[@ComicBookInvestments]

Everyone losses sometimes. It’s impossible to win every time. If some says they never lose then they are lying and I wouldnt trust them. You just gotta make sure you win more than you lose.

[@nighttigercomics7323]

@@ComicBookInvestments I was just busting your stones. At least your humble enough to let us in on the losses.

[@voodoo7171]

Book 1 and 3 should have not been sold at this time. Harkness will heat up again with her show and 1st Omega Red will heat up closer to his first appearance in the movies

[@ilikedonuts5763]

Great idea for a video!! Thanks for sharing that!! I know nothing about sending a book in to CGC for grading. What is an average price to send in one book for grading??

[@AGriff111]

I feel like the market in general is taking a breather. Probably a bad time to sell.. maybe a good time to buy some books if they’ve dipped?..

[@speccollector9740]

Losing a lot more than 10% on Ebay. More like 15 to 20%. Their fees are compiled including taxes and shipping with Paypal fees.

[@VinchenzoC]

For shame!