The Living Tribunal Returns

G.O.D.S. (2023) Issue 5 & 6 by Jonathan Hickman.
▸ Aiko has done a bad thing, and the only way she can set it right is to tell the truth and stop lying. But who doesn't love lying? Certainly not the Lion of Wolves.
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[@power_houz]

Aiko: "Make it so I never did this bad thing" Tribunal: "Lmao nah"

[@Daretobestupider]

Oblivion: "Ignore that asshole, I'll give her power, but she'll be MY special friend" Aiko: "Wait no, that sounds worse, don't do that!" Oblivion: "it's cute that you think you have a say in the matter..."

[@tiraedo-omozuwa3689]

That's why there is a saying that once you have done wrong, don't try to make it right or else you will only make it worse.

[@007JNR]

​@@tiraedo-omozuwa3689 That doesn't sound like a saying 😂

[@tiraedo-omozuwa3689]

@@007JNR its not but you get the idea 😂

[@drewt1717]

​@@tiraedo-omozuwa3689except that you just said it, which now makes it a saying.. 😅

[@Wezt334]

Let’s be honest Hickman said “I want to write Constantine but I’m working with Marvel….oh I know…”

[@KryyssTV]

It's likely to be revealed he's just an alternate reality version of another popular hero or villian. They're giving him too much focus to just be a footnote character.

[@samuelbankston2108]

Eh, I'd read Dr. Strange over Constantine any day.

[@kcopara1]

Yup I much prefer Dr. Strange over Constantine. I Don't believe Hickman was thinking that.

[@Wezt334]

@@kcopara1 I mean Wyn comes across in a very similar portrayal to Constantine so feels like it to me. If you disagree that’s cool everyone’s different

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Neither do I.

[@shadowofdakness]

Never seen a situation where gods and demons tell you to wait and think before you speak and choose. Usually it's "AHA should've thought before ya chose!"

[@Fable_7]

In the stories I read, that's all they every do. "Why tell you a lie, when the truth is so much sweeter?" I forget which story that quote comes from.

[@shadowofdakness]

@@Fable_7 "That's some bs you sadistic dastard!" is what I'll want to the one who said that 🤣🤣🤣

[@dashwhatchamakalit]

'Can't blame me for the choice you made. You were told the rules.'

[@shadowofdakness]

@@dashwhatchamakalit Lol true😂

[@giornikitop5373]

yeah, but oblivion immediately does what he wants anyway, before even finishing that sentence, which is obviously bs since it really didn't matter what choice she would make. once more, marvell "gods" acting like little brats. meh.

[@DivineDarco]

Gods is easily one of my favorite recent stories. It doesn't have to be a big bang level event every couple issues just seeing some of the strongest cosmic entities doing what they do in their own realm is beyond cool.

[@spottedslash4256]

I second that. I love this side of Marvel. Magic/occult, Reality Guardians/Protectors And Various paranormal creatures. This and Moon Knight do a excellent job with this kind of stuff.

[@socrates5855]

My guess is the living tribunal is still recovering from the death of the multiverse in secret ward and oblivion got a boost from it. That’s why they’re even now

[@DeathBYDesign666]

Master Order and Lord Chaos and The In-betweener took his power once as well if you remember that one.

[@matthewschwartz6607]

That Molecule Man origin by Hickman was - Strange! Has that been changed yet?

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

yes! "logos" and all that? they killed LT while the rules/hierarchy hadnt yet settled into place etc@@DeathBYDesign666

[@muffetnellon]

Thought Oblivion learned his lesson during "Cosmos in Collision".

[@sgt.milkshake3352]

Not sure if I like this new scaling: Death, Oblivion, Infinity and Eternity being even parts was pretty logical to me. It's Hickman writing, though, so definitely worth waiting to see.

[@vikramjsb96]

Those days when Living Tribunal was the 2nd strongest character of Marvel Comics. Now the only thing he does is die and come back!

[@afro_princess1671]

This doesn't make him any less. To be on par with Oblivion is a major thing.. And wasn't the Phoenix Force second to TOAA?

[@cjn8719]

@@afro_princess1671 The Pheonix force was never second to TOAA nor was it ever confirmed to be so. The only evidence of such was that one part in the Defenders comics where TLT was in the White Hot Room with the Pheonix and they sort of fought. That's it.

[@afro_princess1671]

@@cjn8719 not really. The Watcher stated it in the 70s-80s. So yeah it was confirmed. Its also stated to be the big band (creation) and the last fire that will consume everything. So there u hv it. 2 statements that puts the PF above any being

[@ViscountAsmodeus]

@@afro_princess1671so does that trump all over conversations and texts that states the LTL is second only to TOAA

[@cjn8719]

@@afro_princess1671 Maybe so, but those two instances aren't enough to trump the decades of continuity that consistently stated and confirmed the TLT being second only to TOAA.

[@jaggedj7025]

Homer "Can you dumb it down for me doc?" Dr. Hibbert "We're going to cut you open and tinker with your ticker." You in this case being Dr. Hibbert. This channel and your are much appreciated.

[@ronaldeatman6603]

Could you imagine if Cypher were to decipher the language of the Black Priests? That would be an interesting story-arch.

[@MadMaxx.1977]

Damn, who would’ve suspected that the retired old women at The Villages could be vicious enough to cook up the traveler in a pot?

[@mca217]

The cosmic entity stuff can be very convoluted. I mean, when you're talking about that level of power, it's pretty easy to lose track of who's stronger than who.

[@drewt1717]

Well, it shouldn't really matter. Cosmic entities only really fight against their antithesis, who by definition is equivalent in power, or the universe would become too out of balance to exist anymore. Beings below their pay grade exist to be subject to their rules, just like they're subject to the rules of their superiors..

[@mikevigliotti3798]

Easiest way to remember. Living Tribunal > everyone

[@amiasquinn7766]

@@mikevigliotti3798 One Above All > Living Tribunal > The Writers😂That's how it's been for a while but the writers are moving up and soon it will be The Writers> Everything Else! Which is reflected in this issue!

[@dnice4145]

​@@mikevigliotti3798use to be that way but Marvel became desperate to shake things up especially with the second SW comic run with the beyonders. Now you have thor beating Galactus, or order and kaos killing the LT in the ultimates. Makes the cosmic order very convoluted.

[@triples561]

I like how he just casually says "It's Marcellus soul" like that's not one of the most controversial movies takes 😂 love the vid

[@wrestlerecap1324]

Lol I thought the same thing and then started questioning everything I thought I knew

[@ItsAndOddWorld]

Right lmao it let me know what kinda man he is lmao

[@matthewschwartz6607]

Did Tarentino ever reveal that ?

[@ihatecomicspodcast6813]

And totally wrong. The case has the diamonds from reservoir dogs. They literally talk about getting the case to him in that movie

[@n3u3rotica]

So much of this reads like DC/Vertigo's The Invisibles, both the language and the artwork.

[@BSJINTHEHOUSE420]

Living Tribunals return only means Marvel is about to introduce a new OP character. TOAA did a little trolling when making Living Tribunal.

[@RafaAldez]

He's basically retconned again. Now he's Master Order and Lord Chaos tier and Oblivion tier. All the unbeatable Cosmic entites get retconned

[@CorbCorbin]

It’s to show how powerful the new OP of all time character, that’s become the lazy tool of nearly every writer, within their stories.

[@CorbCorbin]

@@RafaAldez I’m tired of it. There are so many “more powerful than any cosmic entity, older than all the multiverses, and whatever came before that, etc.” characters now, that it’s just a mess of continuity.

[@KryyssTV]

Take your pick; Enigma, Carnage, Onslaught, Franklin, Jean-Grey and who knows what else still to come.

[@KryyssTV]

​@@RafaAldezTo exist "on the same axis" does not have to mean that these beings are equal in power. Look at the context. He is being asked to meddle in the affairs of The Powers That Be and The Natural Order on the claim that he has done so in the past. He corrects this misunderstanding which indicates someone else did but the term "axis", rather than any other term, is very telling as if two points exist on the same axis then they can never meet or intersect one another. Therefore all we learn here is that The Living Tribunal has no authority over these groups not that he is weaker than them which isn't really unexpected as we know his jurisdiction mainly extends only to lesser beings becoming multiversal threats.

[@Revananthx]

I like how dude is basically all "Wait, think about your decision before deciding. What if this bad thing happens down the line? This specific thing happening would totally suck" *wink*

[@AntoinneWilliams]

How can he be the LIVING Tribunal when he dies so much?

[@ajbeasley2771]

I love how oblivion looks he’s other worldly but not eldritch horror but rather a great shadow telling you just how wrong you and everything else is but having to live with that shadow no matter how much you deny it because you know it’s a irreplaceable part of you what could happen if you don’t keep it on a very tight leash and how despite the consequences you agree with that shadow somewhere deep down in your soul

[@mozie9277]

the final moments with oblivion were crazy intimidating. Such beautiful art.

[@treadwell1917]

Good job on the scene transitions. They look really good!

[@griimey7787]

Finally I've been waiting on this! While I agree with others that I don't like seeing The Living Tribunal "depowered" I like this story because we get to learn more about the cosmic entities.

[@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache]

Watch out, everyone. Living Tribunal has learned to not only give speeches, but also dissolve clothing and wrap people in vines. He's really stepped up from what he was before. That's what happens when they stop rerunning Golden Girls.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

Were you expecting an astronomical level of power to restrain a far lesser being? If you have a better way of depicting this we're all ears.

[@bdiax]

@@DeathBYDesign666true she definitely needed to be naked. Not at all for gooner reasons

[@pnut3844able]

That's all that was needed lmao. Dude is the 2nd most powerful being in the universe and you wanna talk shit? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@johnlawful2272]

​@@DeathBYDesign666looks like a hentai

[@ItsAndOddWorld]

@@DeathBYDesign666yea lol I agree but also why dissolve the clothing why do anything

[@williamsummerson1204]

Amazing job on the video Rob. The Living Tribunal and Oblivion are some of my favorite characters in marvel.

[@ShowstopperG]

“Actually Rob (fixes glasses) it’s a ukulele case”

[@themorningstar2263]

Is it really? If so, never noticed.

[@ShowstopperG]

lol I was joking. I’m just trolling Robs trolls lol

[@hatchetmouth8211]

Adam Warlock is one of the faces of the Tribunal now, and it is canon. Just a reminder.

[@bryanharoldfuller2657]

Not just one of the faces, HE IS THE LIVING TRIBUNAL. Adam Warolck doesn't exist anymore( for the time being, Just like Hal Jordan stopped existing when he became the Specter

[@UnwantedGhost1-anz25]

I didn't knew that Knull the Symbiote God was an avatar of Oblivion. I wonder if Eddie Brock, Dylan Brock, and Carnage will be involved in the future. And where does the Eventuality fit in this?

[@k.tucker2011]

Dang iyko got hosed and this "lion guy" must have sacrificed all his limbs to be able to cross back and forth over the river. That's why he wants her eyes and wears a mask

[@Dad.by.Daylight]

Thank you for your work on these issues. Found you through your Xmen work, but I absolutely adore this series - I must get my own issues now...

[@thepyrokitten]

When you say 'even keel' I think you should note that from a hierarchy they may be on the same level but their power may not be, especially depending on how restricted or unrestricted they are by their nature.

[@BlueDragon9000]

Awesome video man 😎

[@scotchbarrel4429]

Diggin this story, looking fwd to the next ep. 👊😎💙

[@fertilemaple742]

Aiko: “ I need the bad thing I did changed” Amidalog: “Nope”😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aliveandwellinisrael2507]

These kinds of series are my favorite. I love when we get to learn more about the Marvel cosmics. Interesting that Order and Chaos were mentioned, considering their other interaction in another story where they killed the LT to create a new being "LOGOS"

[@America-The-Great]

Good job again!!

[@suhailnyc1]

Damn, never knew living tribunal was such a troll

[@KeiPhillips-sy8by]

Mr cliffhanger!! Love it Rob

[@thesamsquatch5224]

Rob this is badass!!! Things are just getting started!

[@notGlennbino]

I haven’t been this hyped for a comics in awhile 🙌 can’t wait for more 🗣🗣

[@andrecarnevali6383]

Rob, you should do a video ranking all the cosmic entities and characters. We are so confused recently... we want to know how the hierarchy is set nowadays.

[@Tiangco1]

good cover of the story, as you always do!

[@HaZe_Da_PuPPy]

It’s always amazing Rob

[@rogeliorodriguez2061]

the criminal reference killed me lol (sorry for my spelling).

[@itsoldtyde]

Where did you hear that marcellus' soul was in the briefcase? As far as I know Tarantino himself said he left it ambiguous and open to interpretation on purpose, because he wants the viewer to make their own ending.

[@OMNIscaler]

Lets hope they make him lucifer level again above oblivion above all the other entities other than the Omniversal ones

[@DAIVONIZZLE]

I would’ve just took lying for 24hrs and lost 1 eye

[@skydivingintofiction7532]

I real hope Dr. Doom is associated with all of these events Oblivion and the Living Tribunal remind me of Primus and Unicron. I don't know if their power levels similar

[@drewt1717]

Primus and Unicron seem like "localized versions" of TLT and Oblivion...

[@PNWMAK]

4:17- I always wondered what was in the gold glowing briefcase! The big bosses soul…must’ve been considering a deal with the “big red guy downstairs”

[@Lastkoss]

I am loving this series man. Nuts.

[@coolgoku810]

This and spider-man are the best thing coming out of dc rebirth

[@senhorkorracha]

Isn't that part of Oblivion's plan, though? It will be easier for him to wipe everything out when other gods are handling their underling's revolt

[@Wes-xk6hl]

When the lion says give them your eye, u give them your eye

[@AFROSTASH1]

This is amazing

[@sweetsistaak]

Love this

[@faiz697]

I was under the impression that Oblivion was on par with TOAA, since he represnts death of everything, even TOAA

[@kdzmuzo]

May not be there when you call. But always right on time

[@nojusticenetwork9309]

Did...did you just make an Ashanti reference?

[@craig.a.glesner]

I am totes digging that art for the Living Tribunal! Less human and more abstract, hella well done.

[@craig.a.glesner]

Oh, so what the cosmic entities were saying was “Look, we know about your little rebellion of dissatisfaction with our work, so we set up some plans. Have fun storming the castle, noobs.”

[@lake_cooper]

This is getting good... 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@millasboo]

18:30 It also means that wyn & centum’s god/goddess are of equal status as oblivion and the tribunal. My guess they’d the beings that help them bring life into their place

[@jiffypoo5029]

When The Living Tribunal or Franklin Richards shows up I immediately stop caring. Oh Look! Hurray! A Deus-ex Machina or Retcon is coming to save the day! The Living Tribunal or some reality warper showing up means the story has gone off the rails and they need somekind of reset.

[@tikdoph]

Welcome to Marvel.

[@VAULT-TEC_INC.]

The Lion is my new favorite character! He’s a shady Demon Defense Attoney!

[@Marx1684]

10:36 This is good stuff. 👍🏾

[@jessemillan1385]

The Black Swan are interesting characters along with the Black Priests since the Black Priests were a defense against the Incursions during Hickman's Avengers/New Avengers (Man, I need to read this run). Marvel G.O.D.S is becoming more and more interesting. I need to read more on the Living Tribunal.

[@sickemboy8109]

What I would give for a remaster of all your Jonathan Hickman stuff! Some of the best stories I’ve ever heard from you!!

[@mrrictus]

The first panel @22:44, I've seen H-movies that began with a scene like that.

[@skyboydenied4704]

I saw the thumbnail and the title and the publish hour I said oh god rob is gonna explain something good

[@goldenboy8361]

Dude Wyn is the COOLEST character like, ever!

[@Pridefallen975]

It's Amazing Rob's quote

[@Reaperherpderp]

I dont read or follow comics but i watch robs videos and when he gets hyped it makes me get hyped lol

[@HoustonWadeCompton]

its probably the duat or an equivalent of the nile/egyptian river of the dead considering the two oxen, the boat remembling mandjet, and the iconography

[@banerifthammer4608]

Hey Rob any chance you will cover radiant black the Indie comic?

[@mattstyles2498]

I love this new comic. Something fresh sprinkled in the with the world we already know.

[@JeradAcosta9]

I cannot get enough of this 🍿

[@chuckpatterson7006]

that’s so badass, waiting for Robs breakdown of the marvel Gods hierarchy

[@user-pr8gx3vb9h]

Considering the living tribunal and oblivion are basically equals it makes sense they are officially stated as such.

[@giornikitop5373]

they are not equals and it's not stated anywhere, Rob is once again missinterprets for the wows. the fact that they are "brothers" and her masters does not mean they are equals. but, that's not a problem with marvell, since any random joe can be more powerfull than anybody, at any given sunday.

[@brucehouse5038]

Everything is as strong as everyone, Stan Lee said it straight there's no such thing as who wins. "It's who we want to win".

[@obibraxton2232]

omg no enough folks talking about the transition at 14:54 😨👏

[@KryyssTV]

To share the same representative does not mean two beings are of equal power and authority. To draw an example within this theme of laws and judges, a lawyer can represent many people who are very different and in some cases when someone cannot afford a representative of their own one can be provided for them by the authorities. Following that there we're brought to the conclusion that Oblivion is not capable of having or refuses to have a representative and therefore The Living Tribunal assigns their own representative to also represent Oblivion. Indeed it is very odd among the Marvel gods to not have an avatar or representative within the physical world..

[@rudra7615]

Hickman has to be known as one of the greatest comic book writers that ever lived. Dude think of where Marvel would be if Hickman didn’t write for them and what would happen to DC if Hickman joined them

[@JoshWeeks]

Oh yes this is what I've been waiting for. Rabum Alal!

[@kcopara1]

Hold up. Haven't you (Rob) been saying Oblivion was more powerful than the one above all 🤔? I remember saying in your videos (you can see it if you go back to them) oblivion isn't more powerful or as powerful as the one above all. This video proves he's not more powerful than the one above all. Also she said she serve two masters (Oblivion and LT) this does not automatically equate to Oblivion being as powerful as LT. It just means Oblivion is more powerful than her. Lastly, master order and lord chaos are not on the same level as LT. That's not what this issue tells me. Similar purpose yes. Same powel levels? No.

[@kto0312]

Yup 😂I remember Rob did say that in several of his videos. It's funny he didn't acknowledge that he messed up.

[@freshness2569]

I bet he just forgot lol may as well find that video and tag him ? Or msg his team ..

[@jeanpagette5019]

This story feels like the most complete currently on the market

[@Brian2]

Instead she stays silent, and when asked again what her choice is her reply is I am thinking. For 24 hours she sits there pondering on the choice to be made and as that last time dings away she smiles as says to lie for 24 hours. Annoyed he looks at her and with that same smile says You never gave me a timeframe in which i must answer. Boom! Done. Or get some robotic eyes, or magic up a new pair or visit kne of the countless beings below her status that can heal. The eyes? They mean nothing and how this was done was kind of meh at best.

[@kappadarwin9476]

Its difficult to lie for 24 hours so she made the right choice.

[@Brian2]

@@kappadarwin9476 He also said no they won't ow her choice, so he lied there with double speak showing she could have done the same. Considering who she is and how serious those high up too her asking to see them she could easily let it be known he is a liar as he shown to be there. Like I said it was meh at best and with how it is being written for a but older reader they could have done it all better. It was disappointing.

[@Brian2]

@@kappadarwin9476 Also she had the truth telling on her for 24 hours. Combining them would make her crazy, legit madness. So as I said her just going quiet 'thinking' for 24 hours to let Truth pass would have allowed her to take Liar for 24 hours without issue. It was badly written at the end there.

[@stealth5580]

Jason Wynn? Isn't that from Todd Macfarlane's Spawn? 🤔

[@mreclectic700]

Unrelated, but you were spot on with your predictions for episode 3. The conversation Madelyne had with Cable made me cry 🥲

[@samsonoh1352]

When you talk about the power of their word all I heard in the back of my mind was…. FUS RO DAAAAA 😂😂😂😂

[@robertfalcone3025]

I've always been a HUGE fan of the Marvel Comics Cosmic Universe...as far back as the 1960s Dr Strange & Fantastic Four..& im very happy that Jonathan Hickman is a fan as well Btw i agree 💯 that the Black Swans were an amazing concept that im glad Hickman is revisiting 👑

[@fcm3d]

It's about to go down.

[@NevermindThee]

This right here may very well evolve into the greatest Marvel story of the decade. Frikkin' juicy.

[@docdirtymrclean3610]

is that Squirrel Girl on the cover?

[@dannytorrence9424]

I've really enjoyed Gods. I thought for sure it would be too much for me but it hasn't been. It's really cool and fun. Do not want it to end. Thanks for helping explain so much more.

[@thoughtsfromnobody1845]

4:44 made me jump x.x

[@user-vh2cw6xo9g]

Wich ones your wallet *The one that Says "Bad Motha Phucka" 😆

[@azureheart2846]

I like it when Cosmic Entities use avatars. Be it fragments of their being, or mortal bestowed power and role. I wish they did more of that.

[@nebriancoleman4704]

This kinda reminds me of the In-betweener he's kinda like the emissary of order and chaos

[@adrenalyns]

a possible answer to Wyn's question is that they live with it because it is part of the process in being next in line; much like how Adam Warlock became the living tribunal. Whatever happened to that iteration? @Rob @comicsExplained

[@nodoze123]

This story just gets better and better. Thank you Rob 🫡

[@michaelrumbolo3144]

The letters of the Black Priests sounds alot like Enuncia from Warhammer 40kK

[@Trailblaze-]

“What if M.I.A is powerful enough to go Buzzlight or even Sup two infinity and beyond against oblivion.” Philosophy the missing link.

[@AzuiApe]

Living Tribunal is back!!

[@justincrafting]

Has anyone else noticed in Comics Explained Videos that there are occasional blips in audio and the image color gets inverted? in this one its at 14:54 is it just that the editor is doing a bad job or something?

[@RLJ550]

This the entity that got beat by aliens that served coffee in Men In Black?

[@hatetodd]

It's about time.