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@redblackjester
@redblackjester 3 жыл бұрын
This story was beyond cool, I'm glad we have this parallelism where Joker knows Batman's identity and Batman knows Joker's identity but they both choose to ignore it. It's beautiful
@sond.lollipop8919
@sond.lollipop8919 3 жыл бұрын
As thr joker as said he dosnt care about Bruce Wayne or is mommy and daddy issues and he believes the bruce is thr mask for batman and not the other wat aroundz
@codmnoobtuber
@codmnoobtuber Жыл бұрын
​@@sond.lollipop8919 have you never seen an ad about grammarly bro 💀💀
@trippinbawls88
@trippinbawls88 10 ай бұрын
​@sond.lollipop8919 yez, wut yu sed
@Sosa_freed
@Sosa_freed 9 ай бұрын
@@codmnoobtubermaybe he doesn’t speak English lol
@pjwulfman
@pjwulfman 3 жыл бұрын
That part where he healed Batman’s greatest pain so that he could step into that role was like a sledgehammer to the gut. The level of hate and admiration on display was brutal.
@janmichaelvincent2157
@janmichaelvincent2157 3 жыл бұрын
"It hurts when I laugh" is such an underrated line
@bubbajoe1902
@bubbajoe1902 3 жыл бұрын
take a close look at the janitor. wearing purple with "fun times cleaning" logo , maybe Jason's letter was deliberately removed from door. killing joker did say I'm still rooting for you jason
@Dudeamis17
@Dudeamis17 3 жыл бұрын
thought the same thing when I saw it.
@TheNeeklus
@TheNeeklus 3 жыл бұрын
I came here to post the exact same comment!
@MrJellyton
@MrJellyton 3 жыл бұрын
The Fourth Joker: The Custodian.
@Greviouss
@Greviouss 2 жыл бұрын
This was epic theory
@ferrm1992
@ferrm1992 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrJellyton the fitth joker: the Chemist
@jerrydunham2042
@jerrydunham2042 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Rob, Just wanted to say thanks for doing these. World is crazy and busy. Its nice to just sit with a cup of coffee and friends discussing comics. Your channel is my stress relief.
@eliuvillarreal8001
@eliuvillarreal8001 2 жыл бұрын
Word.
@STANNco
@STANNco 3 жыл бұрын
When they're sitting in the van, with Joker having a hizzy fit about how he'll be batman's greatest pain and enemy, i wish batman just went "The riddler is my greatest pain"
@postsniper-7532
@postsniper-7532 2 жыл бұрын
And put the citizens of Gotham at even more risk
@dhawalpratapsinghshekhawat1879
@dhawalpratapsinghshekhawat1879 3 жыл бұрын
Him Calling bat girl his adopted daughter. Me remembering the time bat man boned bat girl in an ally.
@amitavmostafa9841
@amitavmostafa9841 3 жыл бұрын
Is that canon now?
@CherryDKaya
@CherryDKaya 3 жыл бұрын
We dont remember that.
@neroticadoeseverything
@neroticadoeseverything 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think that's cannon
@LiveNiceness14
@LiveNiceness14 3 жыл бұрын
That movie isn’t canon. Trust me a lot of fans were really glad it wasn’t canon.
@shomig.274
@shomig.274 3 жыл бұрын
On the roof top..lol
@raven3067
@raven3067 3 жыл бұрын
The scene were Joker is literally breaking Jason by calling him *"his Robin"* is absolutely an unforgettable heartbreaking moment that simply must be remembered for all of Batman lore.
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 3 жыл бұрын
I like this better than the adaptation they tried in death in the family, you just cant capture Joker when you try too hard yknow? Animated Series had awesome moments, I have that voice in my mind as the silver age joker spoke these things
@morriswellington8215
@morriswellington8215 3 жыл бұрын
To test the chair
@rookiedrifter4273
@rookiedrifter4273 3 жыл бұрын
Eh, as a long-time fan of Jason Todd who has read literally everything with him in it, it's really not that great. It's more insulting than anything, because it basically nixes most of the character growth that Jason has done since coming back from the dead as part of Joker's plan to make him a "perfect Joker", and shoots any redemption he had in the foot to try and push a Jason-Babs romance, only for him to end up more depressed because of that. Enough with the "Joker torturing Jason" or "Jason being Joker's Robin" crap. He's had enough of that, it's been done to death, and it is damn well time that Jason got his recompense for how horribly he's been treated. Stop trying to reinvent Jason Todd or make him something he isn't. He's a gun-toting vigilante (with some level of superhuman abilities thanks to the Lazarus Pit) who is simply willing to do what Batman isn't. He's not Joker, he's not Batman, he's not Robin, and he's not Red Robin. He's not a hero, or a villain. He's just Red Hood.
@rookiedrifter4273
@rookiedrifter4273 3 жыл бұрын
@@rohanclancy7435 I hated Three Jokers because of both of those scenes, weirdly. I feel like the whole "I'll be your Robin" bit now changes Jason from the strong but unfortunately lost son he was (who had the right idea, but went about it in the wrong way, and died because of his recklessness), to nothing more than a broken boy, which Jason is so much more than. I never felt like Jason would get a new identity, because Red Hood made sense to me. I never had the question of "does that mean he'll be Joker one day?" I just knew he was Red Hood, and that it fit his character perfectly. The only scene in Three Jokers that felt in character for me was when he shot the Comedian in the head and when he lightly argued with Bruce in the cave. That being said, I would like to hear your opinion on why you felt these scenes were the few scenes where Jason was portrayed correctly.
@elijahbaker781
@elijahbaker781 3 жыл бұрын
It’s just so heartbreaking seeing how the joker mentally broke Jason
@troygrzybowski6907
@troygrzybowski6907 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine this as a movie with Jack Nicholson, can't really have heath ledger, maybe a look alike, and Joaquin Phoenix.
@selfishyounggod6109
@selfishyounggod6109 3 жыл бұрын
U just blew my fucking mind 🤯
@macehilmatecilof4140
@macehilmatecilof4140 3 жыл бұрын
I always kind of thought Joaquins joker was essentially the same joker as heaths out of the three. So maybe Nicholson as the criminal, pheonix as the comedian, and Leto as the clown. This way, Leto joker dies pretty quick so we don't have to deal with much of that, we get a really cool scene with nicholsons joker and batman as they stand off at the theater, and pheonix gets to be the last man standing.
@darthraver
@darthraver 3 жыл бұрын
Jack Nicholson, the comedian Heath Ledger, the criminal Joaquin Phoenix, the clown
@IskandarTheWack
@IskandarTheWack 3 жыл бұрын
@@macehilmatecilof4140 Don't sleep on Jeremiah and Jerome from Gotham, my favorite live action Joker tbh, even if Joker was an exceptional movie.
@jammtru
@jammtru 3 жыл бұрын
Well, Joseph Gordon-Levitt kinda looks like Ledger!
@iminfwb77
@iminfwb77 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is an amazing batman, joker story. It's so deep and emotional. I know how a lot of people don't like or think that it isn't cannon to the main DC universe but I honestly don't think it matters. If it's cannon, it makes sense..if not it's still an all around great story of healing. I feel like this is so common to "the killing joke".The red hood tie in is genius as well
@craiwarren7649
@craiwarren7649 3 жыл бұрын
Lol joker is that crazy heartless ex that only wants to ruined your life till you admit your nothing without her 😅🤣😂😭
@indigo3032
@indigo3032 3 жыл бұрын
literally and figuratively, yes
@childeaterieatkidz4208
@childeaterieatkidz4208 3 жыл бұрын
That's literally the best description of the joker ever.
@abegodsent4977
@abegodsent4977 3 жыл бұрын
I would love a fully voiced scene of where Batman talks to the Comedian in the police van.
@tysargent9647
@tysargent9647 3 жыл бұрын
Get Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill on the phone.
@RobertoBlake
@RobertoBlake 3 жыл бұрын
Why did he ask the möbius chair a question he already knew the answer to tho?
@Luca-sl9ot
@Luca-sl9ot 3 жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to prove himself wrong.
@deech18
@deech18 3 жыл бұрын
I've always thought DC abuses the hell out of plot holes and deus ex machina... smh
@spider-man3042
@spider-man3042 3 жыл бұрын
He was testing the chair. I doubt Batman, the World’s Greatest Detective and the second smartest man in the DC Universe, would cheat to get the answer to who the Joker is. He just didn’t know that there were three of them.
@TooLameToDie
@TooLameToDie 3 жыл бұрын
Batman is a detective. He knew that wasn't all there was to the Joker.
@gennigfox8368
@gennigfox8368 3 жыл бұрын
I think at that moment, he wanted to be sure. Even the smartest people in the world would test their theory again, and maybe three times. Just to be sure he was right. and then THREE names popped up.
@TheWesternFountain
@TheWesternFountain 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish they would make this comic into an animated movie, if they do they should get the guy who did Silco in Arcane to voice the Criminal, I feel like he would be perfect for his role.
@havcola6983
@havcola6983 Жыл бұрын
For an elder joker? I think if they didn't at least try to get Mark Hamill there'd be riots in the streets.
@TheWesternFountain
@TheWesternFountain Жыл бұрын
@@havcola6983 I feel like Hamill would play the real joker or the one that RedHood offs
@andrewgleave3319
@andrewgleave3319 Жыл бұрын
i think they should have the Jokers voiced by the actors who best resemble those versions. The Criminal - Jack Nicholson The Comedian - Mark Hamill The Clown - Joaquin Phoenix and Batman voiced by Ben Affleck who can better personify the more angry Batman. Jason voiced by Jensen Ackles and Barbara voiced by i dont know, maybe Leslie Grace who was supposed to play her in the cancelled Batgirl movie. thoughts?
@thephantomgamingbros.6329
@thephantomgamingbros.6329 Жыл бұрын
I don’t think that Mark Hamill would return as the Joker, since he said he wouldn’t after Conroy’s death
@gusgrau3594
@gusgrau3594 3 жыл бұрын
An arguement you can make, is that Batman stands for order, and the justice system. By killing the Joker, it’d be doing what the Joker wanted. It would also please the Joker, as batman finally treated him as important. ( killing him but no others) Not to mention with the Lazerus Pit, and what would happen to Batman publicly. He could start being framed for other murders, quite easily. ( As the Joker wouldn’t let that act be known) Though I would to see a series like that. To see the entire city turning on Batman, the good & bad sides. And hearing “ you finally murdered him?! After countless died every time he escaped!” What he would do, and how it would be a stepping stone for Gotham changing / a new hero. but because Batman is too popular it won’t happen. I hate when people say DC is dark, when you have characters like Batman and Superman lol. It would be great to see DC evolve, as being told the same stories with very little character growth / change is boring. We all know Batman will live, he won’t kill the joker. Killing joke was amazing because they broke the taboos which was great.
@haarisjamil9517
@haarisjamil9517 3 жыл бұрын
I been waiting for this one. I love hearing that voice talk for an hour.
@clintabernathy6881
@clintabernathy6881 3 жыл бұрын
Gay
@LostMane
@LostMane 3 жыл бұрын
Say no homo
@mr.zendar885
@mr.zendar885 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I saw these being pumped out knew it would be joined eventually.
@Aura-kw8zq
@Aura-kw8zq 3 жыл бұрын
@@clintabernathy6881 how do you know there gender
@manuel3439
@manuel3439 3 жыл бұрын
Simp
@gentelmanjunkie542
@gentelmanjunkie542 2 жыл бұрын
I'm stopping at 15min in, buying the book & reading it THEN coming back to finish this. It's that good so far. ..."When's the last time you missed?" I LOVE Geof Johns, and Fabok is in the top 3 or 4 artists of his generation. Gotta get this book.
@kyr58
@kyr58 3 жыл бұрын
25:00 - With the Gambling argument, it's not absolving responsibility as much as knowing yourself, in Batman's case. People who become addicts have certain vulnerabilities. Gaps in their mental armor that would protect against addictive behaviors, mental illnesses, and falling prey to fallacies. Batman knows himself well enough to know that he IS vulnerable to a mental illness that would lead to him becoming a serial killer. He has those gaps, and he knows it. Exposing himself to murderous intent could send him down a path that he literally can't come back from on his own before he kills a LOT of people. Jason Todd also has vulnerabilities, but these were beaten into him first by Batman, then by the Joker. Like a fish being carried by the current, he is being swept away into a life of murder. He had the capacity to heal, mentally, spiritually, emotionally, but as Batman points out, he hasn't healed correctly. Does that mean he is absolved? No. But it does mean that how he got there is not entirely his fault, and that understanding, perspective, and compassion is what is needed if he has any chance of correcting before he kills again.
@GirlisIdle
@GirlisIdle Жыл бұрын
I know I'm 2 years late to this comment, but just wanna say that I completely agree with your analysis of Batman. That's what I thought, too. He must see himself in the Joker, in the others, but he's cognizant of his own character flaws and weaknesses. I am, too, which is why I totally get this logic. There are things I would avoid to do at all costs because I know myself. I know I may not be able to resist. Batman is 'incorruptible' because he knows he _is_ corruptible.
@jsl9289
@jsl9289 3 жыл бұрын
I missed these classic comicsexplained summaries. OG Rob Corp remembers.
@Whosoever446
@Whosoever446 3 жыл бұрын
Rob, that could be a quote brother, “the slippery slope excuse is just a way to absolve yourself of responsibility”
@FBJoestarXP
@FBJoestarXP 3 жыл бұрын
Except that's like saying "we Know you better than you know yourself" ... If Batman kills the joker HE knows HE wouldn't stop there. We would be assuming it'll be easy to just not kill after joker.
@ThaOneChrisJONES
@ThaOneChrisJONES 2 жыл бұрын
@@FBJoestarXP That's basically what I assume, Bruce Wayne's psyche is already on thin ice as he dealt with serious trauma as a kid. He knows that if he killed, he wouldn't stop.
@earlhuffington6162
@earlhuffington6162 7 ай бұрын
Complaining about the slippery slope is the quickest way to demonstrate to the rest of us you don't understand the character on a fundamental level.
@mr.throwback4875
@mr.throwback4875 3 жыл бұрын
I love Batman’s suit! It is so Burtonesque! Like a continuation of the films but in modern era! Great Job, Rob!
@jajajasputin8927
@jajajasputin8927 Жыл бұрын
Kinda wish Alfred, Dick and Tim were in this as background characters. Dick's grief as Jason's older brother, and Tim's feelings as the successor. And Alfred watching his family fall apart.
@jamesgatz4490
@jamesgatz4490 3 жыл бұрын
"Sharks don't roar". Jaws: The Revenge disagrees
@Gwennerini
@Gwennerini 3 жыл бұрын
They should
@ViolenceCity
@ViolenceCity 3 жыл бұрын
Better than I expected. And now I have to reinstall Arkham Knight. Well done.
@ken.droid-the-unique
@ken.droid-the-unique 3 жыл бұрын
Wow. That 3 Jokers story was amazing. Just commenting for the algorithm
@mjkhan9664
@mjkhan9664 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest. When i saw "boss joker" or "original joker" his serious look reminds me of Heath Ledger's joker. And then going through this only solidified my comparison
@bodd-energon5502
@bodd-energon5502 3 жыл бұрын
As a matter of fact, Heath Ledger's Joker was heavily inspired by Joker in his first few comics from the early 40s, which were the original Joker's earliest appearances.
@mjkhan9664
@mjkhan9664 3 жыл бұрын
@@bodd-energon5502 really? So He was always supposed to have a sort of villainous seriousness to him then. Heath Ledger still has one of my FAVORITE portrayals of the Joker
@nothri
@nothri 3 жыл бұрын
3:24 Also one of the best lines from Batman Beyond Return of the Joker after Joker tortures Robin and learns who Batman is. "And kind of like the kid who peeks at his christmas present I must admit its sadly anticlamatic. Behind all the sterm and batarangs you are just a little boy in a playsuite crying for mommy and daddy. It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. Oh what the heck I'll laugh anyway!"
@TheEpicSpire
@TheEpicSpire 2 жыл бұрын
so when the joker was fantasizing about having dinner with his wife and kid, he just imagined them looking exactly the way they really do? i suspect The Joker knows his family is in Alaska, and has seen them recently, cause the kid even has the same hair cut.
@hordakprime6172
@hordakprime6172 2 жыл бұрын
I think his wife is more dangerous than Bruce knows and I think that a good twist would be if she lied and deceived Bruce into thinking that she was a helpless victim.
@kennethsatria6607
@kennethsatria6607 3 жыл бұрын
Okay so Death in the family basically adapted that bit where Joker calls himself Jason's papa eh?
@gennigfox8368
@gennigfox8368 3 жыл бұрын
THIS story, should have been a trilogy of movies. Batman: Tragedy (Red Hood and Endgame - a Joker Dies) Batman: Joker War (Jokes and Riddles) Batman: Three (as in Three Jokers) Each one played by different actors. Jim Carrey, Willem Dafoe and Jack Nicholson. Those are my three actors, you pick your own. Side note: I love how, even in Joker's fantasy, he knows his family wants to get away from him.
@JM-nm3uk
@JM-nm3uk 3 жыл бұрын
OMG Rob, this is one of THE BEST stories, you took me back. Love your storytelling, thank you
@wukong2282
@wukong2282 3 жыл бұрын
For a group of super rich, hyper intelligent, seasoned detectives and fighters the batfamily wear outfits which can be penetrated by common edged weapons, have easily manipulated utility belts, and tape notes to doors. Just...wow....
@hadiafzal5548
@hadiafzal5548 3 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best videos I've ever seen in a long time,keep up the good work
@First8116
@First8116 3 жыл бұрын
I'll be honest, I never thought the beat version of the "slippery slope" argument was that Batman couldn't stop himself, it was that the people's perception of him would be a slippery slope. That, if he just ran up and killed Joker, people would start being incredibly divided about Batman himself. Some would view him as the hero who did what needed to be done and would expect him to continue killing because now there's a "new most deadly villain" and other people would start viewing him as another villain. Both would be murderers, Batman's would just be for his reasons while the Jokers is for his. Whereas, if he doesnt kill anyone, there is a clear distinction. Also, why does Batman have to kill him? Why hasn't the city, or state, or federal government given him the death penalty? Do they need more evidence? Just like it's not cop's job to execute bad guys (even though some think it is), it shouldn't have to be Batman's either. If the government deems them beyond rehabilitation, Old yeller that mutha trucka.
@ejedwards988
@ejedwards988 3 жыл бұрын
The problem with that is that there is no way that there isnt a kill on site order low key attached to the Joker. Like bring him in dead or alive. Also you are legally in the clear to use lethal force in the defense of your life or the life of others if all else fails. Batman is straight a murderer, the man maims people regularly, he beats henchmen until they stop moving -thats a coma btw thats called beating someone into a coma, he ziplines people to ceilings in multi storey warehouses by their feet and just leaves them there. Have you ever seen Batman call an ambulance? If it's not seen on panel it doesn't happen. Beat cops show up after Batman leaves and have to determine whether Batman has been there or if a whole other crime happened.
@shanecruikshank1386
@shanecruikshank1386 2 жыл бұрын
He makes sure he gets an insane plea so he can never get the death penalty against him since he is legally insane
@reikoshadowstar3176
@reikoshadowstar3176 Жыл бұрын
Joker is considered insane therefore unfit to stand trial hence why he is sent to Arkham ASYLUM
@MissAshley42
@MissAshley42 3 жыл бұрын
The better argument against Batman killing (and one I thought came up at some point in some incarnation) is that once you kill, you're a killer. It doesn't matter if you kill one or one million. It doesn't matter if you do it for good for for ill. It only takes ending one life, and to make that decision, even for a single life, requires rationalization. It requires becoming an arbiter for who lives and who dies. Even if you only kill one person and decide to never kill again, the grim calculus you applied to your victim will always weigh on your mind, and it _will_ influence how you view others. It _will_ affect your thinking about who is and isn't worthy of mercy. Even if you never kill again, it _will_ poison your mind. _That_ is the burden Batman tries to avoid. It's not a matter of whether or not he could stop killing once he starts. It's a matter of whether or not he wants to live with making that decision even once.
@aaronwilder2775
@aaronwilder2775 3 жыл бұрын
Character Explained/Beyond Omega Level: Resurrection Man
@BajanCypher
@BajanCypher 3 жыл бұрын
Forever he lives
@BajanCypher
@BajanCypher 3 жыл бұрын
Up bump
@210SAi
@210SAi 3 жыл бұрын
🛎🛎🛎
@Emery101
@Emery101 3 жыл бұрын
Bumping for prosperity
@troublemaker574
@troublemaker574 3 жыл бұрын
One day
@AmritGrewal31
@AmritGrewal31 3 жыл бұрын
40:30 well, he doesn't stop at that level of logic The thing with slippery slope is, it's not as directly applicable as you are considering it. It's actually the fact that he knows that human life is extremely valuable. Once he takes away the chance of being a better man from someone, he's crossing that line where he loses all his self-respect. The circumstances he is in, he will be forced to take someone's life again. And, if he has done it before, if he has lost that self-respect, killing that guy won't be that big of a deal as the first time. That's what he's afraid of, i.e. he's afraid of losing that self-respect for the values he hold dear. The thing is, by allowing joker to live and kill more people, he's inflating his own ego thinking "I'm better than this" when he's really not. If he really understood the importance of a human life, then saving many lives by taking this one life won't be this big of a deal. FFS, that's exactly what soldiers are for.
@snodog00
@snodog00 3 жыл бұрын
When it comes to the "slippery slope" argument with Batman, I just have to say one thing. Batman is not a regular person who COULD only kill once. He has too many issues. Bruce Wayne, for all intents and purposes, us a high functioning psychopath with acute paranoia. A lot of orphaned children have seen their parents die in front of them. Not all of them dress up like a flying rodent and devote his life to crime fighting, especially with all of the assets at Bruce Wayne's disposal. He has his rule and he needs his rule, or else he doesn't know where the line is anymore. It would feel too good for him and it would be too easy for him. The Batman Who Laughs is a prime example of what happens when Bruce let's go. He makes Clark kill his family with black kryptonite. Now sure, he could PROBABLY kill without a problem, but he knows he's too dangerous to let himself kill. What IF he liked it too much? What IF killing became no big deal to him? To ensure he doesn't, he makes the rule and makes sure to never break it... intentionally. That would mean it's okay for him to judge if people die. It means he gets to play a higher power that he's afraid of. It means that it could lead him down a road he never wanted to be. Why do you think Bruce basically shrugged off Jason killing the first Joker? Because not only did he know it was the right thing, it also meant that he didn't have to do it. As long as he sticks to his rule, he can never be compromised, exactly like the Jokers were trying to do to Jason. He needs it to know where not to go, because he's broken, because he can't do it himself, because he WANTS to.
@torrancemoore6152
@torrancemoore6152 3 жыл бұрын
Glad someone pointed out how character specific that slippery slope argument is.
@mortadelofilemon2086
@mortadelofilemon2086 2 жыл бұрын
Plus (sorry I'm late) it would be a mess for the justice system. A vigilante kills a high profile terrorist. It would mean a trial, in which batman would have to unmask, and you know where that leads to. It also means becoming a fugitive, and you know gordon would pursue him, and even if he doesn't get caught, that makes the process of getting evidence from the cops and investigating crime scenes harder. And that is what would happen in a sane world, but in Gotham the courts and cops are corrupt. What if the murder of the joker is found legal, and then copycat vigilantes kill normal, 'out of necessity' criminals, or criminals trying to justify murder with legal loopholes. What if the cops do the same, and get gordon out of the way to be able to. Many possible logistical problems arise from killing a criminal.
@marquezlyons8423
@marquezlyons8423 3 жыл бұрын
Quick question: Who is more the master of prep time, Batman or the Joker? Joker always has plans that are steps ahead of Batman most times.
@nickmishmash6064
@nickmishmash6064 3 жыл бұрын
They have to plan in different ways because their goals are different. Joker doesn't care how long it takes to do what he desires. And he has a singular focus. Batman has to deal with things in the moment or short term to protect Gotham and the people in it.
@Hidan22
@Hidan22 3 жыл бұрын
The Joker eating cat food is the best thing ever! 18:57 Lol
@dhruvgajjar4953
@dhruvgajjar4953 2 ай бұрын
I think the no-killing rule only makes sense when u consider the fact that, upon knowing that Joe Chill is just a desperate man who was forced into making an awful decision, Batman looks at his entire rogues gallery as well as any criminal he sees in the exact same way. He sees the people he fights as just that - people who have undergone some kind of incredible suffering, however, they were never as fortunate as Bruce because he had Alfred by his side, money, and guidance. When seen this way, Bruce's viewpoint makes sense - most thugs Batman comes across are regular people who don't need to die, depraved killers like Zsaz clearly suffer from some kind of mental disorder, killer croc was born with a defect and treated like a monster all his life which led to him becoming one, I could go on. But then you have the Joker. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with him - he doesn't have a name, no known loved ones aside from a pshchiatrist who he manipulated and (at least in this book) a family who is terrified of him, and nobody at Arkham can diagnose him with anything. The Joker is, to me, the personification of evil - no matter how much you say that there's a reason for everything, you can always be laughed at by the idea of pure evil. In this regard, and unlike all of Batman's other rogues, the Joker is irredeemable, but Batman's philosophy refuses him to believe that he isn't also a human being who has experienced immense amounts of pain, and therefore, Batman can't bring himself to kill him. I personally find this much more satisfying than the "slippery slope" argument because, do you really think that Batman of all people lacks self control?
@shigoXIII
@shigoXIII 3 жыл бұрын
This man cured my depression with his soothing voice and the way he tells the stories
@davematkins6829
@davematkins6829 3 жыл бұрын
This seems like I seen b4. Is it bits of other Joker story's rewrtn & gave new ending ?
@comicbookchallenges1390
@comicbookchallenges1390 3 жыл бұрын
You're right. This is the Red Hood I love.
@joejones8776
@joejones8776 7 ай бұрын
@33:17 SPOT ON! You called it 3 years ago! The new Joker: Year One series just established that the “Three Jokers” are just different versions of the same person.
@gregmonk9037
@gregmonk9037 3 жыл бұрын
Best dc short run in years, great story and art.
@InTheMindOfDavid
@InTheMindOfDavid 3 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention what actually lead up to Jason Todd being killed off in the comics. DC didn’t want to do that but decided to leave it up the readers so in issue before the one where Jason is killed in the back of the comic DC put a poll for for readers to vote for vote on whether Jason would be killed or not. obviously we know how that turned out. I found it pretty interesting that DC literally waited until the very last second to decide this. And because of that they had to of wrote two stories for that issue one where Jason lives and one where Jason dies just in case the vote went one way or the other. The poll idea was such a great idea because I think that it actually made Jason a better character later on when he comes back as the Red Hood. By writing the story so that Jason is just getting beat to death mercilessly and Batman finding out where Joker took Jason only to arrive just as the building Jason was being held in blows up. That failure ended up adding a lot of depth to Batman and really caused emotional turmoil for him because at the end of the day he’s developing super self destructive tendencies because he back helpless to stop what happened that made him feel the same exact way he felt the night is parents died. That he was still just as weak and helpless as the boy in that alley all those years ago. God damn do I love Batman’s stories, their just so many of them and Just about all of them are fucking great!
@jon_franklin
@jon_franklin 3 жыл бұрын
Ok I agree with the slippery slope argument in the case of batman because batman is insane. I feel this has been pretty well established at this point that batman really isn't that far off from total insanity so he fears that if he kills once then he'll enjoy it or he'll consider it a solution and he will fall down that rabbit hole
@MrHendersonUploads
@MrHendersonUploads 3 жыл бұрын
At some point Batman, you gotta put Joker on a T Shirt and live your best life
@ShakeySmooth
@ShakeySmooth 4 ай бұрын
The best intro ever! The "and yeah" is gold! 😂
@Rekora_Wulf
@Rekora_Wulf 8 ай бұрын
Man... there will never be a better Batman story than this will there?😢
@Vamroc
@Vamroc 3 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I didn't pick up on this before but TKJ Joker is wearing a" Large Marge" Trucking hat well Paul Rubens is the actor who played Pee Wee Herman In the movie Pee Wee's Big Adventure where "Large Marge" gave Pee Wee a ride in her truck....well in 2008 Paul Rubens made an appearance on Conan O'Brian announcing that he had been cast to play The Joker in Christopher Nolan's film The Dark Knight. In a later interview on Conan Ruben's confessed to loving the art of the lie and recounted a story about telling the press he'd heard everyone in the room were getting mopeds HAHAHA Ruben's also remembered everyone being disappointed when that didn't happen.
@USMarine3124
@USMarine3124 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with you on the slippery slope argument....BUT with Batman he has said that if he killed he would essentially lose himself. Batman knows himself well enough to know what killing the Joker would lead to. That's why he won't kill the Joker. He explains it well in Under The Red Hood.
@raulcasarez2150
@raulcasarez2150 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I like Geoff johns as a comic book writer but after seeing how he treated the justice league cast it honestly disappoints me how such a cool dude can be so cruel and evil to other people honestly. Plus him and whedon ruined justice league so it’s best if he just sticks to comics tbh
@ashercandell3788
@ashercandell3788 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think when Batman says that he won’t kill its because he thinks it’s a slippery slope, I think it’s because if he were to kill just one person, he’d be no better than the criminals he fights every night. His parents were murdered right in front of him. Naturally, he thinks killing is wrong.
@Maninawig
@Maninawig Жыл бұрын
For the slippery slope argument: I think it fits Batman. Reading the Darkseid Wars comic, Batman did show that he is fallible in that way. The way he became arrogant and totalitarian with his reign shows that he has no empathy or sympathy for the criminals, so puts that limitation upon himself as a means never to dip into such a depth of darkness. In your analogy, one drink might not kill most, but he's a drunk worming at a brewery. Or put in a rhetorical question: what is the difference between Justice and Vengence, when you're the 5 year old boy watching your dad in a fight?
@SLxCamel
@SLxCamel 2 жыл бұрын
I love this for the ode to all the previous Batman stories but specifically for its ode to the first Michael Keaton movie
@thegoldensuit4771
@thegoldensuit4771 3 жыл бұрын
The slippery slope argument can work for Batman if you believe that Batman isn’t of sound mind (and let’s be honest he really isn’t) To use your own reasoning, sure an average person can have a drink and not become an alcoholic, but if an alcoholic sits down and haves a single drink, they run the risk of not being able to stop. If Batman never made his rules, he would’ve been a supervillain/anti-hero
@valletas
@valletas 3 жыл бұрын
thats actually a great explanation batman is clearly not well in the head only an insane person would become batman after what happened and he is basically moved purely by ptsdso i can totally see him completely losing it after he kills someone especially the joker
@superscott410
@superscott410 3 жыл бұрын
The slippery slope argument works because Batman knows he wouldn't stop. He knows himself better then anyone else. With that being said, while some ppl may not turn into an alcoholic after one drink, others do. You may not know which person you are, and if you are the one to become the alcoholic it already to late because you took that first drink. Thats the argument being made imo.
@aavila1206
@aavila1206 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, that’s how I see it.
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo
@CommanderShepard-wq3wo 3 жыл бұрын
According to Rob; Adopted siblings, Dick and Babs makes out and have sex all the time = not weird and not wrong Adopted siblings, Jason and Babs make out once = very weird and very wrong The logic behind this is overwhelming!
@curtis.e_flush
@curtis.e_flush 5 күн бұрын
I don't have a problem with the slippery slope argument because I think he ultimately applies it to himself. He literally goes as far as putting people in the ER. He knows his capacity and drive for violence and he is afraid if he himself goes far as killing he would enjoy it too much.
@Errordemn6
@Errordemn6 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making these videos
@Shazam1414
@Shazam1414 3 жыл бұрын
Wait... why did he ask who the Joker is if at the end he says he knows who he is?
@Guitarnetter
@Guitarnetter 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly what i was thinking!
@Brutalyte616
@Brutalyte616 3 жыл бұрын
My guess? He knew something was off, and he might have even assumed there was a new Joker out there, but he didn't know for certain, and he never would in any reasonable timeframe, so he needed the absolute certainty afforded by something he knew to be effectively omniscient.
@stephenasunnamedsource2943
@stephenasunnamedsource2943 3 жыл бұрын
If Batman told red hood and batgirl which joker was the real one theyd think he also knew the Jokers identity bc there was literally no other clue to which 1 was real.
@darksorra
@darksorra 2 жыл бұрын
You don't understand the "Slippery Slope" of Batman. He knows if he kills, even it if is just the Joker, HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STOP. He knows that if he logics it out for anyone he WILL do it for others. He knows himself just like an addict knows they can not ever have another Drink, another Hit or another throw of the Dice. Batman knows he can not go down that route because his self control is not that good no matter how much he shows in the rest of his life this is the one thing he knows that he will not be able to control. Batman/Bruce, because it is both of them this time not one side of him, can kill people as a side effect of his actions but IF he ever does that as the point of his action he will keep down that path.
@florpflop6364
@florpflop6364 2 жыл бұрын
Silver Age Joker voiced by Jeff Bennet Killing Joke Joker voiced by Mark Hamill And OG joker voiced by John Dimaggio Would be cooooo
@unintentionallydramatic
@unintentionallydramatic 3 жыл бұрын
What if: Batman had to operate solely with his intellect and connections? This story teased us with it then never did anything with it.
@dannygoosebump5594
@dannygoosebump5594 Жыл бұрын
The letter being swept away at the end is very tragic
@dumbinacan4u
@dumbinacan4u 3 жыл бұрын
I have such a love/hate relationship with this story....it started AMAZING....and the hype was 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 but idk about the ending...🥺 Maybe it should have been more issues....?
@itsnotme987
@itsnotme987 3 жыл бұрын
Or not three jokers
@IskandarTheWack
@IskandarTheWack 3 жыл бұрын
@@itsnotme987 I wish the 3 jokers all survived tbh, it's infinitely interesting. The criminal honestly should have probably been the one to survive though if any of them, but i had my doubts that would happen when they gave the one all the big moments in jokers history.
@maxhydekyle2425
@maxhydekyle2425 2 жыл бұрын
Happens with a lot of Geoff Johns stories. Idk if I've ever really, really liked the endings to any of his arcs. They always just kind of fizzle out.
@amazinganthony12
@amazinganthony12 3 жыл бұрын
The Clown - Arthur Fleck The Comedian - “Smilin” Shecky Rimshot The Criminal - Jack Napier
@davidbarrentine9352
@davidbarrentine9352 3 жыл бұрын
Ok this is a great story to me. But i love the art work on these books.
@GBPACKERS72
@GBPACKERS72 3 жыл бұрын
Rob your voice is so awesome you could make a phone book interesting
@BennyDalby837
@BennyDalby837 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing, keep doing what you do!!!
@snooby8156
@snooby8156 3 жыл бұрын
"...I Mean sharks don't roar, BUT,"..." R O A R "
@Facebones2391
@Facebones2391 Жыл бұрын
The slippery slope argument applies to Batman because he's not entirely mentally stable and if he thought he could kill the Joker without going farther, I think he would. He's nothing if not pragmatic and observant. He gets it.
@rebal180
@rebal180 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Todd is the same as Dick Grayson only in the sense that they were both orphans. Dick was never forced to live on the streets and he never tried to steal the Batmobile. Well at least not right in front of Batman. Dick was found in a circus and Jason was all alone. Their origins are nothing alike.
@chinyereugwu9431
@chinyereugwu9431 3 жыл бұрын
Jason Todd when he was introduced was a circus performer whose folks were killed and Bruce took him in. He was a carbon copy of Dick only with ginger hair. The street kid who stole Batman's tires is his 4th origin retcon. Jason went through a lot of origin retcons
@hawkeyeplerce5238
@hawkeyeplerce5238 3 жыл бұрын
A deeper thought that this series put in me that you didn't touch on. Maybe Batman can't kill the Joker because he's still holding on to that dose of tragic humanity that he knows the Joker used to have since he knows his origin and his identity. Still doesn't explain why he couldn't tell the bat family this but it makes more sense to me than the "slippery slope" argument
@AnonymousRandomGuy006
@AnonymousRandomGuy006 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t see why people just don’t understand that Batman is walking a fine line between being a criminal and hero....murder is wrong...murdering someone as a vigilante is next level criminal. It is the one thing that separates him from the monsters he face. Look up “staring into the abyss”.
@DarkKnight-zu6he
@DarkKnight-zu6he 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking more so that Batman knows the joker was created by Gotham P.D. from being told his family was dead when they took them into witness protection.
@YorchPineda
@YorchPineda 2 жыл бұрын
All that scars yet no one has ever managed to put a scratch on his face.
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
What if mongul ruled sacar instead of red king when hulk landed
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
@@100percentNotaBot I don’t agree but even if I did How’d that story turn out? GREAT! That’s how lol Mongul the elder ofc
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
@@100percentNotaBot aww man your talking about someone who took Superman, supergirl & cyborg Superman by himself ! Idk Maybe in his world breaker form but not when he arrived to sa’car I think it would’ve took longer and would not have been easy at all Mongul the elder is op he’s stated he fought doomsday And again he’s soloed HEAVYhitters man Idk I think you might be downplaying mongul 🤔 But again I’m not necessarily saying I disagree I just think it wouldn’t be that easy at all
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
@@100percentNotaBot your downplaying him again and your brining in different versions of hulk lmao kzbin.info/www/bejne/rqrKknewn8ikocU Atleast watch this video it has SOME feats Not all He beat Superman and Batman while Batman had Superman’s powers.... cmon And this dude is a marvel fan boy but just watch I just feel your not to sure who he is Maybe u watched him in justice league animated series but comics he’s WAY MORE impressive
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
@@100percentNotaBot I’m no longer interested look at your intelligence and mine I was calling Danco a marvel fanboy I know it’s hard to read at times BUT I’m no longer entertaining this idea I actually thought this was a cool debate until you got emotional And mongul the elder is the main version omg this guy telling me I don’t have knowledge on comics And they are literally different ppl Not you bringing up cosmic hulk and idk what else lmaooo ✌️
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
Illiteracy 🤦‍♂️ If u watch the links I sent you 1. You have knowledge on who I’m talking about which u absolutely don’t 2. You’d know I was calling that guy a marvel fan boy 🦆
@antonewatters6967
@antonewatters6967 3 жыл бұрын
Do yo know the definition of insanity. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Batman catches the joker and he's locked in arkham asylum and then he breaks out kills a lot of innocent people and then eventually caught by batman and locked back up in arkham asylum then he breaks out kills a lot of innocent people and then eventually caught by batman and locked back up in arkham asylum and so on and so forth. So by definition batman is insane because he won't do the only logical thing and break the cycle.
@coldninja900
@coldninja900 3 жыл бұрын
See the thing about me is I don’t have a problem with that may not killing the joker my two problems are the fact that he prevent other people from doing it in the fact that there are other ways to do the joker besides killing him he could lock them up in a space prison he could ask one of his justice league Pwho are good with the magic in technology to build a sort of prison that will prevent the dog from escaping he can and the fact that someone like Batman who is ugly one of the smartest people in the whole world hasn’t thought about this is dumb
@dirkthewrench
@dirkthewrench 3 жыл бұрын
I think years later people are going to regard this as one of the greatest batman/joker stories
@ldungey6972
@ldungey6972 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad my KZbin auto play stumbled upon this. I don't even know what I was listening to before this
@levonpoe
@levonpoe 2 жыл бұрын
Rob this was DEEP! Thanks
@donnyfly495
@donnyfly495 3 жыл бұрын
This needs to be fucking animated, now. But like I don’t know who can capture this in terms of animation style.... killing joke movie vs under the red hood vs dark knight returns type of debate
@RipDippler
@RipDippler 2 ай бұрын
"WHAT DID YOU DO?! ALL HE DID WAS BEAT YOU TO DEATH AS A CHILD, JASON!" -Barbara "Empathy" Gordon
@themojoverse
@themojoverse 3 жыл бұрын
Killer Mike said it best: I used to love Bruce but living la vida loca, help me understand I'm really more of a Joker
@koreyg8552
@koreyg8552 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, this was phenomenal
@dustinandgillian
@dustinandgillian Жыл бұрын
This is so great. Liked and subscribed.
@danc8871
@danc8871 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not a weird kiss it’s basically two kids who ended up in the same orphanage having a moment lol
@pjmathison9787
@pjmathison9787 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like joe chill understood capitalism. You can’t be a billionaire without exploitation
@childishumehara9890
@childishumehara9890 3 жыл бұрын
In keeping with real communism is what made him commit a heinous murder.
@BDeity
@BDeity 3 жыл бұрын
Did you watch the video? The whole point is that belief was just a selfish explanation that drove him to murder, and now lived his life in deep regret for thinking/doing it.
@KingKong-fj4dk
@KingKong-fj4dk 3 жыл бұрын
I wish you lived in a socialist country so you could truly suffer the fruit of your idiocy.
@bbael2768
@bbael2768 7 ай бұрын
I do not think it is so much the "slippery slope" as it is giving batman a clear distinction from the people he is opposed too and that is without even going into the trauma bruce has around death. He understands better than most how killing someone does not only affect the person who died. That imo is why batman will never unalive someone no matter how "bad" they are.
@jab-io2po
@jab-io2po 3 жыл бұрын
Omega/Beyond omega level: Brainiac (DC) Beyond omega level: The empty hand (DC) Beyond omega level: Superman Prime One million Beyond omega level: Barbatos (DC) Beyond omega level: Imperiax (DC) Beyond omega level: Superman prime (Amped version)
@hordakprime6172
@hordakprime6172 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly have this theory that Joker was abused by his wife and she had more to do with the Red Hood plot than Bruce knows. I think that would be a good twist.
@WinstonSmith19847
@WinstonSmith19847 3 ай бұрын
You are correct sharks don't roar now tell Jaws The Revenge 😂
@absolutelyminty7452
@absolutelyminty7452 3 жыл бұрын
I'm under the impression that if Rob doesn't chuckle he's been replaced with a body double 😂
@Something-Waffle
@Something-Waffle 3 жыл бұрын
If so, then Rob would be very sus.
@rudra7615
@rudra7615 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn't explain why the 3 jokers look identical and exist. So they are triplets? Clones? How they did this story without having to explain is genius
@therealtgunnz1762
@therealtgunnz1762 3 жыл бұрын
Comics Explained Thank you for this video Always bringing great content
@untitledUrbanGoose
@untitledUrbanGoose 3 жыл бұрын
29:25 Reminds me of Joaquin Phoenix's Joker. Every time he laughed, it hurts.
@ArkaeaFCL3
@ArkaeaFCL3 3 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact same thing lol
@danielsnake23
@danielsnake23 3 жыл бұрын
isn't the story of the movie the one of the killing joke? do you think they did all of this to make that joker more official?
@NotSoCoolDad
@NotSoCoolDad 3 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome walk through and helped me understand this so much more. Thanks!!
@HaleyHeadect
@HaleyHeadect 2 ай бұрын
Cool series! Keep them coming
@alexbiersner3350
@alexbiersner3350 Жыл бұрын
Easily my favorite Batman stories of all time
@deechambers5959
@deechambers5959 3 жыл бұрын
This story was a huge letdown in my opinion. Started off pretty cool but fizzled out by the end
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