Command Stack Ep 31 - Armada's Last Update / The Rise of Star Trek

[@Crabbok]

I'm surprise that we didn't get the Stargazer. The Hathaway eh? I suppose that leaves room for the Stargazer in a future set.

[@IONRadio]

I was a little surprised myself as I was also expecting the Stargazer. Like you I’m thinking we’ll see it in a future expansion. Really looking forward to this game. -Ken

[@RetroMaticGamer]

The Hathaway? Dude, that's from "Peak Performance" from TNG season 2 - one of my favorite episodes! And, as a gamer, one of my favorite Star Trek quotes, when Data loses the Stratagema game and Picard has to kick him in the ass to get him to stop doubting his abilities over it: “It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not a weakness; that is life.”

[@IONRadio]

In the strictest sense, Data didn't win the rematch.... He busted him up.

[@pennk4-Rob]

Had a great time at GenCon. I have hit one of my goals now with a fleet of mine talked about on command stack!!! Playing Outer Rim with you guys was awesome!! One of the funniest things was when Ken’s character, Han Solo, got a broken arm. It was just like Ken pulling structural damage.

[@admiraltater5436]

Hahahaha Ken was getting demolished

[@IONRadio]

Same here, Rob! Thank you for joining us with Outer Rim... The "Broken Arm" card... sigh. GenCon was rough, but rather humorous. :) - Ken

[@JasonLandis-uz4nc]

Nice vid. Super excited to see more of ST Into the Unknown. Hope to see an Akira class. Also a large Klingon and Romulan expansion.

[@IONRadio]

Looking forward to being able to get some solid information on new expansions. We're probably a few weeks away yet, but Wizkids definitely wants to make more for this game.

[@Downsizeit]

I hate that I missed you guys there. Just never had a chance to make it over to say hi.

[@IONRadio]

We missed you, sir! We’ll meet up at the next major con.

[@admiraltater5436]

No worries!! I figured you were slammed!

[@markslater8529]

Nice to hear about the Armada info

[@IONRadio]

Definitely looking forward to seeing what they release.

[@wolfsigma]

Mad respect Ken. I have been trying to make Home One work in my own games. It's my Sysyphean Rock. I agree 100% about keeping the pickle as cheap as possible. The best fun I ever had was with 2 Mk2's running Quad Turbolaser Cannons. It was a lot of fun but it just didn't produce. Keep up the good fight!!

[@IONRadio]

MC30s with QTC can be somewhat problematic at close range for many ships. Add Home One, Ackbar, and external racks along with a ConFire…. Thanks! I did have fun trying to get something to work. Seeing the destructive power once in five games made it worth it.

[@matthewmayton1845]

I'm not sure if I should be excited or scared of what AMG is planning on changing with Armada.

[@IONRadio]

Some of what I have heard from various sources and rumors suggest these could be positive changes. We’ll find out together how good my intel is. -Ken

[@admiraltater5436]

Worst case we’ve got into the unknown to tide us over!

[@Ghost.in.the.Machine]

It's funny how little Axis and Allies I've played, given that for years I gamed with Pat Flory (the guy who came up with the name) at The Citadel game store, where it was originally developed.

[@IONRadio]

That’s pretty cool! I will say seeing Tater’s excitement has me wanting to play this again with my brothers. -Ken

[@TheThoughtDonor]

Tycho vs teacho 10:30

[@IONRadio]

Have to keep y'all on your toes.

[@MithrandirAv]

Curious as the DW game that you mentioned from GF9. I play Time of the Daleks and it's a fun thematic dice game.

[@IONRadio]

That is the one. It seems similar to Elder Sign in its implementation which makes it a fairly easy game to get into. My primary concern is that I could get all the Doctors except Capaldi (12th) right now. He is eventually being released in an expansion by GF9. - Ken

[@MithrandirAv]

@IONRadio I was lucky enough to buy the 1st edition used at my lgs for $10 and that edition has Capaldi. Fun game and it doesn't take up a lot of table space

[@IONRadio]

@@MithrandirAv It's an easy pick up for 1st edition to be sure. Does that one come with Jelly Babies?

[@aaronmarshall5694]

That's actually just the Dominion Heavy Cruiser. The Dominion Battleship (featured in DS9 episodes like "Valiant") is almost three times the length of the Galaxy-class for perspective with twice the firepower. That and the Romulan Warbird must be "Huge" classes if they're coming.

[@admiraltater5436]

Yes, they talked about the really really big ships. The only thing stopping them from the size will be packaging and manufacturing. So for the really really big ships they might have to scale them down a couple inches.

[@WRXSEVEN]

@@admiraltater5436 They could sell/package them in pieces that could be assembled I suppose

[@Judgewrath1]

Yooo

[@aaronmarshall5694]

Rising Tensions definitely sounds Romulan (Warbirds and Valdore-class); there was definitely a misunderstanding here.

[@admiraltater5436]

The only thing I know for sure was Klingon Warbird and the repainted defiant as a valiant class. We did not record though, so I might be creating a false narrative in my head.

[@IONRadio]

This could have been a reference to a Klingon Bird of Prey (B'Rel class) along with the USS Valiant. If memory serves, the Valore class was not in service until post-DS9.

[@aaronmarshall5694]

@@IONRadio True, but then again the Constellation-class was never seen in active use on TNG, either; it was decades old. So I definitely think Wizkids has some leeway as far as potential ships featured early on; they may not stick strictly to what was shown on the small screen. After all, the Remains were mentioned as having been cannon fodder during the Dominion War and we never saw that (or a host of other events) onscreen in DS9, so it's feasible that Valdore-class Warbirds were active during the period.

[@aaronmarshall5694]

@@admiraltater5436 In Star Trek Warbirds always refer specifically to Romulan warships. The Klingons have Birds-of-Prey though (the smaller B'rel-class and the much larger K'vort-class), which I suspect some of the confusion here may be coming from. If represented on the table, the B'rel would be around the size of the Defiant or Jem 'Hadar Fighters while the K'vort has a wingspan greater than the length of a Galaxy-class starship and could accommodate a crew of 500. Aside from that the two look visually identical in overall design.

[@Commanderbos]

I'm pretty sure cyberpunk combat zone red is the same universe as cyberpunk 2077, just different point in the timeline.

[@admiraltater5436]

yeah I could be wrong, information overload lol

[@aaronmarshall5694]

The campaign sounds intriguing, but this will be a HUGE missed opportunity if Wizkids doesn't at least include the option for straight-up ship-to-ship tactical battles like Armada. Two different types of games that attract two different types of players, and I imagine that a lot of folks who may be attracted to this game prefer the Armada approach.

[@admiraltater5436]

So the ships all have hull, shields, and weapon stats, nothing is stopping you from just running ships against each other. And we don't know the full details yet, so they might include straight-up combat scenarios in the book. I know I'll be using my warbirds to hammer a solution instead of peace talks.

[@oreljumovic1731]

How about reprints ? Would be much happier if they said they will continue reprints

[@admiraltater5436]

I don't think that will occur sadly.

[@IONRadio]

There was a brief discussion about that, and it seemed to me that AMG believes they would have to price reprints at a point that would not sell. Beyond that, I cannot say.

[@oreljumovic1731]

@@IONRadio Priced them like WH games, and do they sell ? AMG just cant do what FFG did so they cut their loses