Commander Clash S8 E9: Planar Commander w/ Spice8Rack! | Innistrad vs. Lorwyn vs. Rath vs. Theros

Oona, Queen of the Fae vs. Karametra, God of Harvests vs. Vhati il-Dal vs. Anje Falkenrath
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This week's guest is our spiciest ever: the Vorthos legend himself, Spice 8 Rack! To cater to our guest's cultivated tastes, we've decided to do a flavorful theme this week: Planar Commander! Each of us have built a deck around a specific planar setting in Magic's lore, which includes both cards that depict the plane or ones that match the spirit of the plane! Here's what we've got this episode:
Spice 8 Rack evokes the plane of Lorwyn/Shadowmoor, playing a Faerie Tribal deck full of tricks and mischief, led by Oona, Queen of the Fae
Richard is actually not playing a janky tribe this week, instead playing a godly Enchantress deck harnessing the might of Theros gods, blessed by Karametra, God of Harvests
Seth went full "Against the Odds" mode this week, choosing the plane of Rath -- yes, it's a plane -- and hopefully makes it work with Vhati il-Dal
Tomer visits the plane of Innistrad during the whole "Eldrazi Insanity" time period, playing a Madness deck led by Anje Falkenrath
What secret spice does our guest have in store for us? Is Richard actually not running Jank Tribal or is this some impostor? Is Rath really a plane? Find out on this episode of Commander Clash!
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[@brownrice4125]

Spice: “Come on deck, be nice. Gimme a land” *Draws into Didn’t Say Please*

[@sofer2230]

20:40 MODO has great comedic timing.

[@hellmans_fury490]

Lmaoo 🤣 how fitting

[@VRanger100]

At this point can we have the editor be a guest for an episode? Editor can finally voice out all their complaints in person. XD

[@ctomsky]

I second this!

[@joshuapennell8529]

Me too!

[@sethglickman7642]

I love this idea

[@BloodLegaZ]

Now this sounds great.

[@johnfarley7074]

We should also have the artist who does the title cards as a guest.

[@sekiryuutei6354]

Playing Tibalt and immediately chucking Lilliana in the graveyard is the most Tibalt thing that could have happened.

[@philipkelly7369]

this has been one of my favorite commander clashes in a while. I love stipulations that make players reach for strange cards, and I love when those cards interact in weird and interesting ways that I haven't seen before. That is the very essence of commander.

[@ctomsky]

3 hours and 20 minutes of Spice8Rack and the MTGGoldfish crew? IS IT CHRISTMAS!?

[@Awesomesausages]

This stupidly long and grindy game was a thousand percent worth it for that finale alone. Well done Seth, well done Rath. Spice8Rack was a fun guest, too! Excellent.

[@Zekparsh]

Despite the length and misplays that was one of the greatest, and most fitting, endings I remember seeing. Jank combo and MODO crash is peak commander clash.

[@wafflesporq]

Spice8rack not playing Slobad? Truly, we have been betrayed this day.

[@hijjf]

Honestly loving the editor overlay text, judging tomer and the gang from on high with their omniscience of hindsight

[@ctomsky]

In Tomer's defense, he got the flavor win by playing Emrakul and mind-controlling his enemy to help them win for some mysterious unknown reason!

[@Raktus]

I saw Rath and loaded this video up thinking "Sweet! Finally gonna see someone representing Slivers!" Of course not >.>

[@kaszael]

Tomer not even considering the fact that Starfield is a 'may" ability is such a Tomer play.

[@tomerabramovici32]

Reading cards is for blockers!

[@charmandenator5686]

Did you know Tomer could have played Blood Artist after the Emrakul, then there are two blood artists and he can make a bunch of enchantment clerics that turn into 0/0s and die. He could make 5 for 10 blood artists triggers, which isn't too bad, as long as spice works with him.

[@rhymeswithmoose228]

Hells yes Love that Spice8rack is getting the recognition he deserves

[@indolent87]

It was probably the best late game I have ever seen on CC - got me laughed way too much! Thank you guys for an amazing episode!

[@subrosian2323]

This has got to be one of the funniest outcomes of a Commander Clash game. I love Seth's deckbuilding 😂

[@EffinChat]

So kind of my Spicey boi to balance out his deck with the rest of the table by only putting 10 land into it. He truly is a treasure.

[@shammerHammer]

When Seth pays five mana to draw cards by activating tome, does that make him a...... ... ... tomer?

[@Small_Panda]

No Seth is the person known for drawing cards, Tomer only dreams of achieving Seth's devotion to card draw. Seth has lost more games to himself trying to draw cards than anything else. If devotion to card draw was a mechanic Seth would have every god devoted at all times. He has actually killed himself to the card greed before just to draw another card.

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303]

@@Small_Panda I now have an image of seth praying to a shrine with brainstorm, greed, necropotence and alpha ancestral visions

[@daredewley9231]

Catching up on some back logged episodes. I love commander clash!

[@Foxiest_fox638]

We legit just did this a few weeks back but with alot more restrictions Its such a cool idea. I hope my sites commander picks up like commander clash. You guys have been a huge inspiration to me and basically all our commander players. Thanks for the amazing content

[@GiovanniBoss]

I wonder if Tomer knows that that demon on the flip side of Elbrus, the Binding Blade is the demon that killed Saint Thraft, since this is a Vorthos episode. xD Also, that was pretty much the most amazing "end" of a game I've ever seen. You sure are bringing great guests this season. :D

[@beckettoneill3327]

Drinking game: Take a shot every time Seth says banefire instead of balefire

[@mrsilverbutton7786]

A long video but an incredible one! Probably one of my favorite to date, it feels like each episode you guys continue to improve and produce great content even after all this time!

[@piper6641]

It's good, but it's not Mill vs Discard....

[@l4rgo911]

Tomar is playing Madness, and Oona is a mill machine. This is LITERALLY discard vs mill! Y'all didn't expect THAT, did ya?

[@StahliCell]

What a showing! What a game! I flippin love commander clash!

[@franksmith8298]

After playing Tron so many times you know Seth loves seeing Karn trapped in the torture chamber art.

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303]

The lore behind that card is one of the darkest I've ever seen

[@suntitan4419]

Tempest block was one of the coolest blocks ever awesome deck Seth

[@Lunari_wolph]

The spicy man himself!

[@franksmith8298]

Excellent choice of basics for Spice, Tomer. I use those very islands and swamps for store drafting. I use the Omar Rayyan GW panorama from lorwyn alongside them. The mountains are on their own though 🙂

[@faceoctopus4571]

Putting Tibalt in the decklist wasn't optimal, but it was stylish. Well done Dr. Anime!

[@ArtanesCS-Rockon]

I kept getting confused watching this and now I want Commander Clash Rath vs Wrath vs Raff vs Rats.

[@VinegarAndSaltedFries]

I’ve been watching Lots of Commander Clash, this might be my top 5 favorite episodes. Gonti hit, and this two of my favorites.

[@schadenfreude4846]

I want a spice8rack lore-wyn video so bad

[@aurabullet4128]

Seth's threat level analysis is either trash or actually hates Tomer idk which. Lol

[@ODIRGO]

He has to obey the boss (Richard)

[@Welverin]

Their feud transcends all.

[@darthsurya88]

I think it's tossup between him wanting to draw cards/durdle and screwing over Tomer.

[@martinskullerud2195]

This was amazing. So glad I watched all the way to the end.

[@ashra8281]

So this is what you've been doing instead of the ethics of mill Vs discard? I see spice... I see

[@babassoonist557]

Man this game really highlights how much we need a return to lorwyn

[@abrahamthayer4059]

Someone should have made a niv mizzet reborn deck and had access to all 10 shocks, chromatic lantern and all the guild leaders and nephilims. You would need to get pretty lucky to have a good game but if it did work out it would be wild

[@olddaydreams]

Shit I’m so hype! Spice8rack is an absolute gift!

[@isostat16]

According to Gavin Verhey, its AHN-jee. Also, given the Eastern European roots of Innistrad, the clan is pronounced Falken-raht

[@eriksuvanto]

I did NOT expect that ending. Amazing. Ha.

[@N1ghthavvk]

When Seth attacked Tomer with the Balefire Dragon at around 40:30 - he had another possible, good play that he didn't go for. Instead opting to do what he did. Use the Indulgent Aristocrat to sac himself and the other two vampires before, giving Anje, 3 more counters and thus 7 toughness. Seth would've then been forced to use the whip on her (otherwise he wouldn't be able to kill her until he would've attacked Tomer once again with the dragon). This would have taken 0 resources to pressure Seth more. What he did instead, made him lose a card (using the discard ability) and gain nothing in return. Give an inch - lose by a mile. Just thought I'd point it out as an opportunity to learn.

[@theodoreabshire933]

That ending was crazy!

[@thievesguild9488]

I will never understand this groups threat assessment

[@ODIRGO]

Richard says "look how many cards Tomer is drawing, you have to get rid of him, Seth" (Tomer wasn't even drawing a single card, he was looting. At the same time, Richard had ramp, draw, and indestructible god, card selection and wrath's insurance (Archon)... Seth destroys Tomer's field. Next turn, Richard still has the same things above mentioned... Tomer destroys Seth's field. The guest has Ashiok to return Starfield to richard's hand, he plus for a token that can't even block Richard's flyers. The game wasn't so long because of intrincated or convolued interesting game play, in my opinion.

[@philipkelly7369]

@@ODIRGO most of what you said is correct, but he was looting and using the discard to play out madness cards, which is card advantage. So basically no different from card draw.

[@aidennoir597]

They might play it up for the camera, but Seth and Tomer come across as just being flat out bad at Commander. And honestly their card assessment during set reviews for Commander often reinforce that.

[@Small_Panda]

@@aidennoir597 Well Seth is an actively "bad" Commander player, he has talked about it before. He doesn't look to win in commander games he looks to have fun durdling around drawing cards and doing his decks "thing" what ever that maybe. I mean he even hinted at it here where he said if we didn't have hand cams I would have just taken the damage and died instead of casting constant mist. Seth's goal isn't to win it's to draw cards and play a fun game with friends, he doesn't view commander competitively like Tomer does. Tomer on the other hand does play to win, he builds his decks to actively try and win while conforming to usually some weird theme which inhibits his playing, on top of that Tomer honestly is one of the worst players I have seen. I don't mean this as a mean statement mind you I like the guy and the show but I don't think I have ever seen someone misplay as often as I have seen Tomer punt away games. Not even like Seth who is actively trying to just draw cards, and makes suboptimal plays so that he can draw cards. Tomer actively makes bad plays which Seth points out multiple times throughout this video. To point out a few Madness to kill Seth's coffin queen on his turn basically at sorcery speed instead of after Seth uses the dragon to board wipe Richard, killing the artisan giving Spice a permanent 14/14 emrakul, attacking spice forcing him to chump with his glen elendra archmage which sets up Richard for the attack forcing Spice to chump with his whole board or die, which perfectly sets up Richard to board wipe now that glen is out of the picture. Tomer just makes bad plays, he is a great deck builder as seen when he wins with his budget decks or can hold his own with 6 cmc tribal, but he is held back by his own competitive ability. This is of course in my own opinion, but when the table is pointing out your mistakes on camera that's just pretty bad game play.

[@thievesguild9488]

But thats why I love it. They make it hilarious and fun to watch

[@joewelljackson454]

Yooooo, love Spice, this is a great crossover!

[@richardadams429]

Mr 8 rack playing commander clash..awesome!...Mr 8 rack not playing hench pig tribal..slightly gutted, but still Awesome!!

[@noahmurtha4036]

After tomer said spice didn’t like puns, my first response was this. Those vampire puns are gonna suck for spice. 🤣

[@VowNix]

I gotta say Spice8rack's deck is super flavourful and on theme! What are the restrictions that the editor is saying he didn't follow as strictly?

[@kingfuzzy2]

Spooky boots

[@Ricardo-zo1ti]

Loved the theme, loved the guest, loved the video. Such a cool season! (despite MODO)

[@DonovanPresents]

Spiciest win for sure!

[@bolt_myself1992]

I know Spice is a busy man, but boy we need him on this show far more often😂

[@626Cardsyt]

Spice rack. Figured long. Check time. Over 3 hours. Dope!

[@Suppaichu]

Spice playing crim colours and getting the crim land treatment

[@Zoidstiz09]

Never clicked so fast on a commander clash.

[@Alkhemia8]

sad that spice 8 rack did not play Phyrexia using Yawgmoth

[@kingfuzzy2]

Or slobold

[@germanyjones2700]

Gotta say, the Lorwyn basics are my favorite. Good choices the swamp and island are wonderful

[@varietygamer7859]

I love plane themed decks!

[@viktorcz3709]

Oh my lord, what a great guest!

[@genbu2870]

That's the point where I want to rebuild my Anja deck from Reanimator/ Madness into a vampire madness deck

[@joshuarees4097]

Spice: I don't like puns. My brain: Whoever says Coffin Queen was 'armless has no four-thought...

[@piper6641]

Seth just sitting with that constant mists protection from Richard all game

[@ArtanesCS-Rockon]

Can we have 1 episode this season when Modo doesn't break!

[@MWorl91]

Tomer played Richard’s turn about as bad as he could Edit: OMG, Seth at the end. Wow. I can’t even...

[@grizzlymanverneteil4443]

Spice 8 rack is fuckin great! I love his content!

[@GaryFromLiberty]

Mtgo should be on the leaderboard this season, it's ended more games than anyone else

[@TonySloan2112]

"Not that this game will be 4 hours." Reads Editor's notes. Glad I got a 6 pack for tonight.

[@ferdithetank7535]

What a fitting end to a hillariously awkward game.

[@gustavosolano4615]

I had enough of this episode just enough lol that wipe did work all thru the game. Im getting myself one and if i ever see seth I'm having him sign it.

[@LoonerFlight]

Those WAR books need to be de-canonized like Test of Metal

[@drakeconsumerofsoulsandche4303]

There are no books in mtg. Here we are safe. Here we are free.

[@FacGame2501]

The deck with the lowest count of lands gets manascrewed. As always. Shocking!

[@BarbeChenue]

Amazing game! :)

[@lxyacht]

Thanks for the ep love this season

[@shaden489]

anje doesn't loot she rummages since you have to discard first

[@petrsevcik5044]

Emrakul can't be a surprise. She's the PROMISED end.

[@8Scientist]

As a Warhammer player, I wish this was a format.

[@smarzu6872]

Our boy did it!

[@Xileph410]

I have no idea how this game is going to end because I'm still in the first hour of it but I have to say this Tomer, Seth you both have to stop this nonsense you have between you guys, it make the games so absurd sometimes.

[@sethchapman1425]

Pretty good on the lore Seth.

[@gzzuss]

Is there a finish game in this season or all crashed? Also oh Tomer Starfield is a may ability

[@nicholasrolo886]

Karametra is a beautiful woman who brings bounty and life to the tables of mortals. Also Karametra: "The harvest has come. You will sustain me with your viscera"

[@darklingscribe]

Karametra is legit, I originally built my commander deck using Dragonlord Dromoka in the command zone to deal with a ton of control in my meta, but eventually moved Dromoka to the 99 and let Karametra take her place. There is a lot to be said about an indestructible commander that brings out any plains or forest (doesn’t have to be a basic) with every creature you cast, so even if the creature is countered, you still get the land. She kinda solves the ramp deck problem of drawing all your ramp and none of your gas by simply making every creature a ramp card.

[@PalPlays]

@@darklingscribe Would you say that she is the most powerful Selesnya commander?

[@darklingscribe]

@@PalPlays It depends on what you think of as powerful, if you’re trying to combo off then Siona or Captain Sisay are more powerful, but if you want to play a commander deck without an infinite combo in Selesnya colors I’d say Karametra is great for general creature based value decks, the original Trostani is top if you want to play tokens and the original Sigarda is the best voltron commander In those colors. I think part of what makes Karametra so good is that she is a form of card advantage that most opponents undervalue. I play her with a combination of disruption (like Aven Mindcensor) and landfall cards to grind out value and most opponents don’t realize how much I’m out-grinding everyone else until it’s too late.

[@DylanHunter64]

I'm glad my pun made it into the video lmao

[@aezir1018]

Guys...guys...I love you and will always be a commander clash/MTG goldfish fan, but can we PLEASE get an episode that isn't just Seth and Tomer beating the hell out of eachother for no reason while everyone else watches? I know these games are meant to be fun but at some point you have to realize how silly it is to wrath the 4 vamps on Tomer's board rather than the huge engine set up on Richard's. I mean c'mon xD

[@enricogobbo7327]

Is it like the 4th week in a row that you are crashing modo?

[@jfb-]

Using the hypergeometric calculator to calculate that the chance of drawing one of 16 swamps in a 100 card deck is in fact 16%

[@ODIRGO]

That would be accurate if you started with a 1 card hand and that card is not already a swamp. To calculate probability you have to consider other factors, like the fact that you started with 7 cards in hand, and also consider if you already have swamps in that hand. for example, if you don't have a swamp in your 7 cards hand, and only have 16 swamps in the deck, then the remaining deck contains 92 cards, so the probability of drawing a swamp, would be closer to 16 out of 92, not 16 out of 100.

[@cacs2201]

The thing is that it wasn't 16% Close, but it wasn't

[@PalPlays]

That isn't how math works.

[@kkhello823]

He says YEA BABY almost exactly like Austin powers. I’m here for for it to be sure

[@ms6548]

We need Tom back to do some real threat assessment. Tomer looting into casting vs Richard ramping, drawing, with wipe insurance is a little eh. Unless Seth genuinely doesn't like Tomer because Tomer cant grow a beard.

[@philipkelly7369]

2:35:55 should've played the hydra broodmaster and did monstrous for 0

[@joshuaritter9747]

@1:12:00 your guest is wrong. Liliana went to each of the planes separately. They were not all there at the same time. There’s an article of text about Bolas telling Liliana about each plane to find the demons in to give her eternal youth. If you read the magic origins story for Liliana she arrives to kothophed’s plane last and he after displaying his power to her upon first meeting him he carves the scares into her.

[@TheStalk]

Thank you or this... MTG goldfish and Spice8Rack is something I should have know I wanted but I had not realized yet

[@eldinatkin3128]

"Around here we call those spooky boots"

[@Khazuki_]

Really glad to see this

[@eusouzoom]

Bullwhip used on the flying cow. It's a Combo!

[@UnrelatedUsername]

How many games has MTGO stopped you guys from finishing this season?

[@MTGGoldfish]

Almost half i think (although in some cases we have played a second game and been able to finish).

[@bigwig8657]

Ah Richard not power gaming with Zendikar and smashing everyone this time.

[@oliviahurley9865]

I can't believe I met (online) and am enemies with the MTGGoldfish editor

[@Niuttuc]

You did? Only Olivia I can remember I don't consider my enemy.

[@natemcdivitt6087]

Love the content, keep it up. I've been doing MTG content too but I'm super small

[@shagua2]

Must watch to the end !

[@genzananiri9831]

backfire is a blue burn-ish spell

[@kyled00m]

@1:09:00 So what I'm hearing is.. "All slivers have .." > "All vampires have.." ?

[@MultiTaz333]

Innistrad is my favorite plane