Commander Underperformers: Cards that are Worse than they Look in EDH

[@NitpickingNerds]

We misread Ignite the Future. It does indeed go until the end of your next turn.

[@jesper1029384756]

does that change the opinion on the card? or still overvalued?

[@pajoulrod]

@@jesper1029384756 I imagine it's leagues better since most of their arguments against it were due to the "until end of turn" line they thought was on the card

[@NitpickingNerds]

@@jesper1029384756 it is better but 4 mana draw 3 is fairly weak overall and the flashback is still not worth 8 mana

[@PoppinNoggins]

Stupid words, so hard.

[@pajoulrod]

@@NitpickingNerds I like it in Prosper cause you get mooooney for whatever you play so if you end up playing all 3 you kinda spent 1 mana to draw 3. Still don't often flashback unless I have literally nothing else to do and I am desperate for card draw

[@lukeoutbelow]

Hey Nerds, just wanted to point out that Ignite the Future does read "Until the end of your next turn" so it isn't as brutal of an immediate mana investment. Love the content as always!

[@Goodthrust69]

Yeah everytime they said that I reread the card and cringed.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Yeah we missed that for sure.

[@sheabroderick8625]

Indeed I think the card is great in mono red especially big red decks

[@joshholmes1372]

It owns in Prosper

[@patrickmarshall7523]

I run it in my kykar deck and it does work, especially the flashback part. I might just have great luck but I've hit my wincon so many times, stormheard and purphoros or expropriate lol

[@Pigotti94]

Play Stoneforge Mystic, get Sword of Heath and home, flicker Stoneforge Mystic, get any equipment. Repeat turn after turn. This synergy made my mid power syr Gwyn deck feel SO strong. I understand that is a specific situation, but man that card has insane potential.

[@Bigchungus-rg6uj]

The return on investment of stoneforge is insane. Any time you can combo it will make it feel overpowered

[@angelopalermo880]

Or just throw it in a Yarok the Desecrated deck

[@ConstanceMists]

In my experience Hearth and Home has honestly been a pretty good card for me. I have it in Adeline and its just a decent ramp spell but with all the ETB’s running around it just adds up to be a solid little 3 mana value engine imo

[@3ddify]

@@ConstanceMists I agree, I've got one in my ETB Mono Red Delina. Decent ramp, buffs my commander and triggers another creature’s effect. I'm in the red zone with Delina anyways

[@soleo2783]

​@@angelopalermo880 yeah just put a white card in your black green and blue deck, no issue

[@luciofernandoherrera]

Abrade underperfoms? Cheap, versatile instant speed removal. Plus, with liquimetal torque or coating is brutal (torque al least, sees a ton of play like other 2cmc mana rocks).

[@robearto7961]

I started including shenanigans in all of my decks that run torque lol

[@luciofernandoherrera]

@@robearto7961 yep, me too

[@selkokieli843]

If you're in monored, you can't do much better but this misses on most important permanents like 4+ toughness creatures and enchantments. Maybe if your meta only has those cards you care about? Even in monored I've never included this. If removal is that unreliable I'd rather just have any card that helps me pull ahead instead of having this rot in my hand a lot of the time. With coating it's versatile of course so depends how often your deck has it out. It's certainly a nice dream to live for, which edh is a lot about.

[@jorjor500]

@@selkokieli843 it’s for early game removal against low CMC creatures and ok artifact removal. I run it in my Izzet control list (along with a lot of other removal obviously) and it basically always finds a home against good targets. I’ve never felt like it was a dead card. Also, resculpt may exile the target, but it also gives them a 4/4 body which isn’t super high impact, but is a decent drawback.

[@BCfightan]

Ignite the Future is definitely until the end of your NEXT turn lmao

[@Dubi264]

I've always disliked burnished hart personally. It just feels like there's no way to sequence it early that feels good. You can almost never double spell both the turn you cast it and the turn you crack it so you end up doing almost nothing until turn 4 or 5.

[@charlesb.andrulis6550]

It depends on the deck you’re building, really. It’s not the best ramp in the world, but it’s fantastic for slow decks in colors that don’t get much ramp otherwise. Six mana for two lands is not going to be stunning anyone, but it’s still better than a lot of other sources of artifact ramp.

[@NewOldEBM]

They key is getting to loop it, 6 mana for 2 lands is meeeeh, but it gets better the sooner you cut those costs. Artifact reduction decks don't mind it (especially with new Tezz running around), my buddy has a Marchesa the Black Rose deck that it's great in, if you're in a deck that can support Emeria Shepherd it'd just disgusting there. Overall I feel like it's a nerds C or C-. Not useable everywhere (and actively bad sometimes), but the decks that want it love it.

[@Dubi264]

@@NewOldEBM that's true but you still need to pay the activation cost each time so I'd want to have looped it like 3 times until it feels worth it. 6 mana for 2 lands, 9 for 4, then 12 for 6, assuming the reanimation is free. And even then it still is only on par with rampant growth rates.

[@NewOldEBM]

@@Dubi264 For sure, that's why you've got to count your battle with it, so to speak. If you have a deck that reduces activation costs like Zirda it's straight baller (and can do the shepherd or Sun titan trick), or like I said Tezz. Shaving costs on it goes a looooooooooooooooong way. But I do ultimately agree with you that it's awkward as, it feels bad when a green player plays STEVE T2 and then your T3 is burnished hart.

[@gary6631]

doing nothing till turn 4-5 is like 90% of edh games I've played

[@viscarious1]

I feel triggered with the Archaic being on the list, it’s my favourite pet card. The bonus with this is out can be great in politics, I’ve had an opponent allow me to copy their removal to double hit the threat at the table.

[@prinsepe87]

Most decks can't combo through archaic. It's great in most pods off the street. The nerds apparently play with the same people regularly? Maybe this influences their lists. Also, abrade underperforming? 😄

[@coleknoblett4194]

I understand that Burnished Hart has fallen off, but it will always be my favorite card and I will put it in every deck because of the one time it overperformed in my Josu Vess reanimator deck. I ramped out 6 lands over 3 turns and watched my buddies shudder as I cast Josu Vess with his kicker on turn 7. It was a good day.

[@NitpickingNerds]

That sounds awesome!

[@titanium0002]

ahhh yes a pet card i have a thing for burnished hart too when i was playing my farideh voltron deck and my friends killed her so many times to where i had to pay 10 to cast her i decided a different approach.... burnished hart i made that little guy into a 10/10 hexproof, trample, lifelink, vigilance sun of a gun and i won the game with it

[@selkokieli843]

I also have it in one of my decks that's a nongreen deck that wants to cast it's pricy commander (Bruna, light of Alabaster) and has a couple of auras that put dead creatures back in play. hart is showing age but has it's places!

[@Volttikoira]

I don't use Lapse of Certainty as a removal spell, I use it to protect my combo in non blue decks. It's janky but it gets the job done. Also nobody seems to get mad when I use it, unlike blue counterspells

[@youngnikos9625]

Yeah Sword of Hearth & Home needs to be played in the right deck, but when it is, it's such an important card. I'm playing it in two different decks that have a lot of flying / evasion and who tends to ramp slowly (mono red and mono white). And it's been really good. Equipped to a Skyhunter Skirmisher is like living the dream!

[@SpencerHuSSH]

HnH is so insane imo, like I'm in love with it, maybe a slight build around which I can concede since I run stonforge and trophy mage, but I feel like it's just a problem if not dealt with so long as theres a good blink target.

[@DevonRiv114]

You said Ignite the Future would work if it said “until the end of you next turn”, but it does say that? Is it more playable than you said in the video then?

[@teddy7799wastaken]

Right!

[@DracoX-hz3tu]

Yeah it's far more playable, especially in stuff like prosper

[@super1upmushroom]

Ignite the future works really well. I think they were down on it because they misread the card

[@Malverde888]

Bruh moment

[@neptuun9425]

It’s very good. They misread it about 10 times in the video. Very cringe

[@casketbase7750]

I was expecting this vid to be a chronicle of powercreep. Solemn Simulacrum, Burnished Hart, Nekusar, other cards that can’t hack it anymore. Instead it’s recent stuff. Thanks for the up-to-date info, Nerds.

[@DracoX-hz3tu]

Uh solemn is still great in a lot of decks? And Nekusar is arguably more powerful than ever now because of more wheels and payoffs. Burnished hart is pretty bad now but those other 2 are far from it

[@Fausto_4841]

what's wrong with nekky?

[@casketbase7750]

@@Fausto_4841 Giving opponents cards is very dangerous nowadays. Don’t get me wrong, Nekusar Wheels is still a modestly powerful deck. But the Mindrazer isn’t the absolute monster he used to be back in the day.

[@thork_tv]

Hermit is everything I want for Grazilaxx. 1. cheap 2. a Flyer 3.interaction 4. good with bounce/flicker

[@plain6677]

Grazilaax is such a sweet commander, love it! And yeah I play hermit too alongside glen elendra archmage. They are much better than a random Negate in the deck.

[@MegaDexKiller]

This is a super underrated channel

[@TheHive616]

Mana tithe is a decent white Counterspell, it's like spell pierce in white. as far as white counters go, it fits the stax idea and still can stop a critical move with minimal mana. I know it's nothing amazing, but I rarely see it played in white, and it's helped me out a few times

[@justynwclark]

Mind’s dilation. “It’s pretty good. It’s cool. It’s all those things. Buuuuuuut, it’s just not very good.” Love you cherries. That made my day.

[@__nobody__]

Lapse isn't a counterspell (tho it can be abused as one), you use it to protect your own spell. You try casting whatever you want to protect, and if someone wants to counter it, you lapse *your own spell* back to the top of your library in response. And then, exactly, you have so much card draw that you can just retry again in the same turn if you want.

[@savagestoltz]

Love the video. Apex Altisaur is not the most efficient deck for sure. I have it in Ruric Thar as a creature that wipes the board but outside of that or Dinosaur or enrage, I would probably look elsewhere. Ezuri's Predation is one mana cheaper FYI.

[@sunstrid3r44]

I like it in vaevictis, but yeah, if the deck cant cheat its mana cost or abuse the enrage/fight it is really expensive, even for a 10/10

[@ChiefLibrarianAhriman]

Um, guys, at 9:46 did you actually read Ignite The Future? It does let you play until the end of your next turn...

[@vgpatman9728]

You guys plan on doing a secret lair review for this months secret lairs? They were very helpful for me to decide which ones I should get.

[@stevenswayze]

I want to see an episode about Overperformers featuring Tolsimir friend of Wolves. Lets go!

[@nelsonmarques6732]

I play flux channeler in my Estrid decks and ir does wonders for me, and except for this specific sutiation, I totally agree with you. And I also play mind's dilation on the same dekc hahahahahah, and I think Joe is completely fight about It! Great video, great to see Amber again :)

[@joshuadempsey5281]

THANK YOU for finally calling out Burnished Heart. Such a sub-par card

[@JJMickeyMusic]

Thinking about how you said Apex Altisaur would be good in an enrage deck, contrasted with Apex Devastator which is just good, even if you aren't running a "cascade deck", I think 'generically good cards' vs 'synergistically good cards' could make an interesting topic of discussion.

[@Krunschy]

Burnished Hart really fell of hard in terms of how likely I am to run it. Even though it's still somewhat fine, your few 3 mana nongreen ramp slots have just become so competitive recently. As for fairly cheap options you got Coalition Relic, Heraldic Banner, Skyclave Relic, The Celestus and Strixhaven Stadium and currently I'm running them over the Hart in every deck of mine.

[@ferdithetank7535]

Honestly, Worn Powerstone is way better in that regard. Ramps you by the same amount, does it quicker and less removal threat.

[@Krunschy]

@@sethkappaccilli9509 When I first saw the mechanic, I too thought it might become incredibly tedious, but it's suprisingly fine. With Celestus in particular, nobody but you really cares and you are happy to care cause it nets you free looting and life. Also once your day/night permanent is gone you can completely ignore the cycle. Even if someone drops a daybound creature, it's really easy to backtrack whether someone last cast no or two spells on their turn.

[@VexylObby]

I have had a wonderful time with Monologue Tax (turns out to be a more fair Smothering Tithe), Wandering Archaic (people tend to ignore it/forget it is on the board), and Sword of Hearth and Home (it has been great in an Esper flicker deck with bunches of ETBs). Also, I would be careful to judge some of these other cards universally when they are obviously powerhouses in their contexts they belong in. Klauth's Will is amazing in a Jared Carthalion mass damage deck. I know this is a common thing we see on KZbin set reviews, "This cards sucks, UnLeSs...". That's when I say: "This card is probably going in ____ ".

[@maybeisuckatlife]

I love the sword but I play it in a flicker deck which is really the only home for it.

[@JustforKikX]

Don't agree with SoHaH. Sure, compared to the other swords it's so-so, but it's great in my Brago deck to flicker etbs. Ramp is great too in U/W.

[@frosty980]

It’s a great piece in my Syr Gwyn deck too where the flicker doesn’t usually matter. It did come up the last time I played the deck though, when someone stole my commander I was able to flicker it from under their control back to mine.

[@NewOldEBM]

I get it, these are cards that are worse than they look, H+H looks pretty good, I mean every channel and their dog came out to go "ThIs Is ThE bEsT sWoRd EvA" but anyone with 1/4 of a brain could tell it wasn't near F+F for raw power, it was pretty grossly overhyped, and I think it's good there's some pushback on it

[@natebeal18]

I put that Myojin in my Perrie deck. Dear god does it over perform for me. I proliferate a bunch, get perries ability on attack and add like 16 counters to him. Instant one shot.

[@GamesofFuturesPast]

The slime on the shelf says: "These cards really give me the blooze. I'd swap these out for better cards any slime!"

[@andrewwebb3813]

Thank you for not mentioning not being able to ninjutsu Nashi from the command zone. Drove me crazy during spoiler season when people wouldn’t stop saying it was garbage due to that fact alone. Turns out it’s just garbage lol

[@mtgtomescourer]

Sword of Hearth and Home puts in work in my Roon deck. Definitely has a place in any ETB or flicker deck.

[@Darth_Pro_x]

Re flux channeler in superfriends: even if you do only cast one spell per turn it's still fine because 1 counter on a Planeswalker matters far more than 1 counter on a creature. It could be the difference between ulting this turn or next turn (which mean never, if the walker gets attacked), or between ulting and surviving or ulting and dying. Also, I think if you build the deck well you will often cast more than 1 spell per turn.

[@brianlinden3042]

Nashi isn't ONLY good in ninjas... He's good in Marrow-Gnawer, too. (But yeah, it's pretty much exactly those two decks.) Similarly, Fightasaurus might be overplayed, but it's absolutely good in mono-green, which doesn't have too many other board wipes to fall back on, and it also performs just fine in decks that like to cheat big things into play, like Atla Palani, or decks that care about dinosaurs, like MY Atla Palani. I actually agree with you on Sword of Hearth and Home vs. Sword of the Animist, though. You want to ramp early, and Animist lets you start ramping one turn earlier, and it's GUARANTEED on attack, while sometimes Hearth and Home whiffs. Hearth and Home may have a higher ceiling, and yeah, the protection helps it get through, but you want your ramp to be cheap and reliable, and those are the two areas where Animist beats Hearth and Home. (I'm a bit of a hypocrite here, mind you, because I just took Animist out of my bear deck in favor of Hearth and Home, but that's deck-specific; Ayula costs 2, so she comes down on the same turn you might otherwise be casting Sword of the Animist, and she wants to flicker bears for more fights and/or counters. I definitely wouldn't replace Animist in my goblin or rat decks, though, or most other decks that might want one.)

[@crypticmrchimes]

I honestly see Nashi being potentially promising as part of the 99 in Gonti decks since you can easily Ninjitsu Gonti, get Nashi's trigger, then recast Gonti from hand to get another trigger of his etb. I still need to playtest with him but he seems promising.

[@samb123078]

Lapse of certainty is mainly to protect your own stuff. Usually on the turn you win. But silence is usually better.

[@lysander3262]

Enrage- Whenever Apex Altisaur is underrated, I WILL FIGHT YOU NERDS.

[@Grimkahn1901]

I've found a way around Apex Altisaur almost consistently. Responding to its trigger with heroic intervention will make it a complete board wipe easily.

[@jrwall336]

Good call on monologue tax. It could be better if it read “casts a spell, other than their first each turn”.

[@TheKamiAndKami]

Lapse of Certainty & Memeory Lapse were kinda nice in my Daxos of Meletis Deck. So true most decks shud avoid it, but if ya can mess with top decks, its okay i think. love ur vid's btw :) 🔥🔥🔥

[@ayllipkhieu8659]

Totally agree. Love using memory lapse to put something I want on top and steal it with lonis

[@Aldo7Aces]

Lapse of Certainty and other cards like that put cards on top of libraries are good in 'Partner with' decks, since you can make them shuffle it away if you're trying to avoid putting cards in their graveyards.

[@tacothursdays6546]

Wandering Archaic still slaps I tend to play slower decks and run enough removal to make the game last longer, and the value I get from my opponents twiddling not casting their Expropriates/Tutors because my Archaic is out is greater than running something else.

[@habaneropepper1]

Apex Altisaur is definitely a brick in the hand. That said, hitting it off Gishath feels excellent.

[@FinalBosco]

My girlfriend runs Apex Altisaur in her Atla Palani eggs deck, and it's always amazing to see it ETB off a 0/1 chump block 😂

[@Durtaz]

Even in my Brudiclad deck, Mirrorworks still tended to sit around and not do much. 1/4 of games it mattered, but eh. Agreed it’s kind of just a brick with stuff written on it. Sometimes useful stuff, but mostly just brick. Edit: I do still try to jam it in my decks, though. Magical Christmas land is occasionally attainable, and it feels so good to arrive there.

[@plain6677]

If you play cost reducers it’s not that bad. But I’d never pay 5 and then 2 each time for sure. However it’s quite a cool and fun card, so it has its place in the format 100%.

[@HomeCookinMTG]

I like it quite a bit in my feldon deck, where the artifact that it's copying only costed three no matter what it is, but it was pretty bad in everything else I put it in.

[@selkokieli843]

@@HomeCookinMTG I don't think mirror works works for token artifacts

[@HomeCookinMTG]

@@selkokieli843 right, my bad. Still good in there with daretti and goblin welder with how many big dumb things I've got

[@njensen218]

I've found that Ignite the Future has found a home in Prosper and in Maelstrom Wanderer, but nowhere else.

[@fawkes3398]

Found mox from your videos, I now use it with every deck I make

[@hibiki0669]

Flux channeler might be better in a deck utilizing a counter better than +1/+1. For example: Elspeth resplendant is a planeswalker that is affected by flux channeler and puts shield counters on other cards. You can use flux to soubl the shield counters while also staxking the planeswalker with regular counters.

[@JD-gk7eh]

I think you're down on Memory Lapse because you don't see it the way you need to. If you're just using it to stop a big threat in the middle of the game, it sucks. But if you're using it because you're one turn away from winning and need to stop that big spell that ruins your day or use it to protect your combo, it's really great at one blue pip. We have gotten some nice new cards that are similar (An Offer You Can't Refuse is particularly good in this role) so perhaps Memory Lapse's days are really over but it's important to understand how that card works. It's VERY good at what it does.

[@nickd6303]

I think the point of monologue tax was intended to be similar to smothering tithe, but instead it's a worse version of rule of law. The only thing I like about Nashi is the art. I do agree that burnished hart has been reduced to just a budget land search for non green decks.

[@MrZer093]

They could have just reprinted smothering tithe instead. It’s been long overdue. Same with Rystic Study

[@nickd6303]

@@MrZer093 it does make a lot of sense for it to have been reprinted in either new capena or its commander decks.

[@somerando6215]

I find Burnished Hart only ever works out well in Osgir due to how you can recur it twice. You get 4 extra lands once you use Osgir's ability. I find it helps filter out the deck with Osgir. Anywhere else I will find it incredibly slow.

[@Leonidous]

I disagree with your take on Hearth and Home, maybe it's because my playgroup is too greedy, but it's been consistently the single best stoneforge target because it flickers your stoneforge and lets you consistently keep getting the next best equip.

[@Turkin4tor]

Apex Altisaur is sweet in a Living Death deck, I run it in my Sidisi deck and being able to beatdown whatever chumps they get reanimated is pretty good

[@ryanparker260]

Them: "Flux Chaneller isn't good for creature +1/+1's!" Me:"Huh, flux Chaneller looks super good for my new Falco Spara heroic deck!"

[@robertolukas3minutos]

Reading the card explains the card

[@sef1326]

I wholeheartedly disagree on Apex Altisaur. It costs the same as the other one-sided board wipes (Plague Wind and In Garruk's Wake) but it specifically targets the problems on the board and if there isn't enough problems on the board to kill the Altisaur then you're left with a 10/10 that nobody wants to block because it'll trigger the enrage mechanic and all the good creatures your opponents have on the field will die. It's not an overperformer but it's not an underperformer either for me. I only own one copy and it's in my mono green Goreclaw deck but I want another copy or 2.

[@selkokieli843]

Definitely decent for mono green. Propably a bit too unreliable compared to options that other colors have if not in monogreen.

[@bluepomegranate]

Apex Altisaur isn't an efficient card by any means, but it does have homes. I've seen it clean house in a Goreclaw deck where it came down for 6 mana, and I run it in my Atla Palani deck because it's absolutely back breaking when I crack an egg and hit it off the top. It's niche for sure, but it is a good card in the right deck.

[@duo317]

monologue tax mightve been playable if it had "create a treasure for each spell past their first" or something similar.

[@zackfro]

Just pulled Apex Altisaur out of Xenagos. Great content. Thank you!

[@NitpickingNerds]

Thanks for the kind words

[@noahcarroll4944]

Ignite the Future says until the end of your next turn tho, I think you're missing a spot on this list

[@Fenizrael]

Sword of Hearth and Home is an over-performer in my Ranar deck. Smack someone, get a land, reset a creature, make a spirit. 10/10

[@TwoTonTiger]

Mirrorworks is fun in Greasefang! She's not exactly a terrifying presence, but it is really fun to keep cloning vehicles

[@jonathanfagerlund976]

Monologue Tax seems akin to a three-mana rock with upside. You'll usually have to wait a turn to use your mana, and ideally you'll be able to "tap" for one extra. I don't think it's worth the current price tag, but it does seem like it'd be particularly useful in artifacts-matter decks as a source of ongoing value. Otherwise, it is basically a Coalition Relic, and I'm not sure how common those are anymore. In short, I feel like I'd whirlwind slam it into the right decks (e.g. Breya), but not every deck wants it.

[@DeeSimsLP]

I'll say one thing: ignite the future is nice in any Kess Deck.

[@murrowmench1565]

Animal is my home for two of these cards - Burnished Hart (cast for free instead of 3) and Myojin of Towering Might (cost 3 instead of 8, survives board wipes and slams 8 +1/+1 counters on recasted animar). I agree that these cards won’t work other places

[@esrohm6460]

abrade is a funny one as it first is really good then the power level goes higher and yu can do better until you reach the point where it suddenly becomes really good again because in cedh 3 damage kills most of everything and stax pieces are often artifacts and if not creatures so you have this super flexible removal that always does more than you think.

[@jorjor500]

Even in decently high power, stax pieces and low CMC creatures are the go to, so abrade has worked amazing for me. Plus, resculpt gives them a decent body, but has decent benefits. They’re both really solid cards.

[@jasperwijker2916]

Klauth's Will is a murder machine in my Klauth deck, but to be fair: Klauth in general is a murder machine.

[@jamescoulter267]

I was feeling that way with monologue tax too, glad to see confirmation

[@matteobagni1235]

Wandering archaic never fails to copy a board wipe!

[@timbombadil4046]

The one place I did like Apex Altisaur was in Drizzt where it pumps him up to 10 power when it dies. But agree, huge mana investment mana for limited fight sweeper needs something more.

[@alessandrosina48]

Apex Altisaur is great when you put 30 +1/+1 counters on it and cheat his mana cost with The mimeoplasm ability

[@Vill1988]

Sword of Hearth and home is an incredible hard. An equipment that combines Sword of the Animist AND a flick effect is nuts. Protection from Green and White is just extra.

[@scienceguy8888]

Flux channeler is amazing in a Teferi artifact tap/untap deck, so there are planeswalker decks for it

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

- Ignite the future: Reading the card explains the card - Sword of Hearth and Home: I agree, typically attack trigger are better than ''Deals Combat Damage'' Sparring Regiment is my recent under performer, just as I aforementioned on Ignite the future, reading the card explains the card. Key problematic phrase: ''Whenever you attack...'' What I thought: Each creature gets a counter and untaps, that is crazy! BUT nope, it only affects 1 creature. LOL :(

[@NitpickingNerds]

Yeah yeah we know

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

@@NitpickingNerds LOL #Love :P

[@danieldonaldson744]

Since MInd's Dilation came out it's been on lists of "Worst Mythics EVER" so I am surprised to see it here.

[@a_angry_bunny]

I think malevolent can be good way if you have a consistent way to play it face-down.

[@itzmimz8238]

Nashi + Peer into the Abyss and cards like Vampiric Tutor, Scheming Symmetry, Varragoth & Villis. He is insane as a commander when built right

[@DanteInformal]

I have Flux Channeler in Eutropia the Twice Favored. I've got over 40 enchantments in the deck, and Channeler puts in work. I can definitely see that it doesn't belong in every deck, but it has a home with me.

[@titanium0002]

it also has a home for my tuvasa sagas deck

[@ansongrigg3457]

I love watching your videos. Great content as always, and I love it when Amber joins!❤

[@aaroncorsini6165]

Monoloige tax seems like worn powerstone because it usually gves you two mana each turn but the mana is coloured

[@ygaudreault]

Lapse is only good in certain non-blue combo decks. For example, in my Zaccama combo deck to protect him when I'm going for it.

[@Reventian]

Cherries where’s your AEW shirt!?

[@NitpickingNerds]

I only have so many lol

[@Master_Spliff]

I absolutely love Malevolent Hermit in my Orvar cEDH deck. 3 Hermits is better than 1 lol then it disturbs to protect my combos. Absolute gravy.

[@jessesandburg]

Mind's dilation is a huge inconvenience and is actually pretty decent unless countered/removed. I can see why it would wiff though.

[@jessesandburg]

@@billable1861 Makes sense.

[@zer0c0ol-95]

Myojin does work in my Skullbriar deck but I wouldn’t play it else where. Especially if I can proliferate and move the indestructible counter.

[@pmpknkng717]

I’m like where did the cat come from?! I had to go back and see when it magically appears.

[@NitpickingNerds]

Amber = magic

[@kingginger3335]

You're silly. Sword of Hearth and Home is completely insane! It's always an overperformer. The basic enters untapped. If you have any type of etb creature on the field. It also goes infinite with Aurelia. It's an amazing card in the 2 decks I put it in. Aurelia and Umbris. It's ridiculous

[@jacobfeingold9160]

Malevolent hermit is good in cedh but not great. It’s a lot of mana to invest for the overall effect. It’s good enough to see play in most blue tymna builds because then it’s drawing you cards every turn as well, but not a blue auto include by any means

[@davidtilton6573]

I have a nashi in a marrow-gnawer deck. Works pretty well in the rat tribal too

[@kamilwoczek4394]

Hermit is amazing, if you dont use front. If you mill yourself and use it from grave as anty conterspell when you combo out, it's great. Anyway mi sidisi adore him!

[@jdogbemple1]

As a big fan of auras and enchantress decks, I would add Flickerform. 2WW is just way too much to leave up plus it is telegraphed. Definitely agree with Monologue Tax and Flux Channeler.

[@corysims4313]

You can flicker dockside... it gives red flicker effects.

[@Klint_BeatsWood]

Myojin in a Gargos deck.. sweet jesus

[@shadowdart]

17:55 I would cast my expropriate into a wandering archaic. Copy resolves first so the original resolves last meaning I get my extra turns. You never twincast an extra turn spell for that reason

[@selkokieli843]

Having an opponent steal the best things and then you only get sloppy seconds from the other two does diminish it's power. If you only need one extra turn to propably win then you don't care of course. it's often still better to play than not even if opponent gets a better version since you're one of the players who are ahead. I would always twin cast to get an extra turn. That's still amazing value. With the caviat of not needing that copy spell to disrupt their win on their extra turn of course. In that case the copy spell becomes many extra turns :)

[@damonhymer5960]

The green beater w 8 +1’s, Myoglobins, my spell checker cannot abide. I think it’s a good spell though.

[@RoachDoggggJR]

If you have solid recursion in your deck Burnished Hart still kicks ass

[@MrJustintreat]

I can see flux channeler being good in the am perry the Pulveriser deck. But would have to play it several times to confirm

[@jackinthebox1993]

I really appreciate this channel but... You guys are tripping about sword of hearth and home, you can flicker cards that came in with sneak attack, whip of erebos, and any number of cards that let you cheat creatures onto the battlefield and make you sacrifice them at the end. It definitely needs to write applications but if you're making the flicker work for you then this is a pretty busted card

[@SnuggyDabbins]

Oh no the nerds forgot to read ignite the future everyone freak out!

[@famousstranger8468]

Can you do the mana rock cards? I struggle to make the decision do I want the diamond 2 cost artifacts Or the 2 colour signets which call cost 2 mana each. Do I want to run mind stone in every deck? Fellwar stone? Sol ring obviously a staple

[@NitpickingNerds]

I think there’s enough 2 mana rocks that you don’t need any diamonds unless you’re on a budget

[@billsussman6554]

I love the mirrorworks in my osgir deck. It pulls a lot of weight but my deck usually has a ton of mana at its disposal

[@bulletproofchunkdion]

My mirrorworks kicks ass in both my artifacts.