Commander VS

[@JesusGrohl]

That's my Ur-Dragon deck. That first game was perfection and the second game exactly what happens to me after a result like game one.

[@Adam.bomb97]

That game made me realize how badly i need morophon in my ur dragon deck

[@Jalynfein1]

I cant wait to check it. Been trying to build an ur dragon deck but gave up and went with scion deck instead.

[@Zippo5767]

I LOVE Morophon as my Dragon commander, with Ur-Dragon in my 99

[@Thatpokeydude]

I'm late to the party. Do you think this list is still pretty up to date or any changes? I've been wanting to get a ur dragon deck for months now and am stuck on what list to get. :c

[@dwaynejayce4481]

I dont mean to be off topic but does someone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account..? I was stupid forgot the login password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me!

[@obicortes8199]

I was so happy to see the Ur Dragon go off in game one. He was also my first edh deck.

[@shadowpsyke]

Man, as a fellow Ur-Dragon player, it is so sweet to see the deck go off. My dragons always get systematically (but fairly) targeted the turn they come down.

[@Wyrm7774]

Feels bad when your dragons keep getting targeted but feels good knowing everyone is afraid of them

[@keep7smiling]

Jon: Greven and Mindslicer DO NOT interact the way you want them to. First Greven's effect finishes resolving, then Mindslicer's triggered ability goes on the stack meaning you will still end up empty-handed.

[@ChadZeluff]

Shenanigans on Suarez’ Greven Mindslicer play. “You sacrifice a creature (or choose not to), draw cards, and lose life all while Greven’s triggered ability is resolving. Nothing can happen in between, and no player may choose to take actions.” The discard from Mindslicer would happen AFTER drawing cards from Greven.

[@mtgpyro0066]

I was told by Jeremy to pause leave comment then unpause so here you go Jeremy just for you

[@UrielColeridge]

Greven + Mindslicer doesn't work that way. From Gatherer rulings: "You sacrifice a creature (or choose not to), draw cards, and lose life all while Greven’s triggered ability is resolving. Nothing can happen in between, and no player may choose to take actions." So you sac, draw 4, and then everyone discards their hands.

[@dustyfox6511]

Yep, the attack is the trigger for Greven's ability. So it should be Sac --> Draw --> Mindslicer causes discard.

[@TheSgtferg]

It would be so cool if they got a secret commander that the others didn’t know but they are all the same commander. So let’s say the commander is Atraxa, they all have her as their commander but they don’t know everybody else also has her as their commander. So we get to see how each person builds the same deck.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Great idea

[@kennethevans8532]

Another great season guys! Well played by everyone. Took a break from EDH for a while. Watching your videos reminds me how much I love it! Enjoy your break.

[@thomasseabrook1041]

Thanks for another great season, you guys handled all the new changes to the way you play like Champs. Kept me very entertained through most of the lock down and then some.

[@hallorette5059]

After getting killed over and over by and Ur Dragon deck, it feels good to watch other people get absolutely dumpstered by it. It’s not just my deck building; Ur Dragon decks are absolutely busted.Thanks for being such good sports, you guys.

[@TedMattos]

Another great game (and bonus game)! Thank you, gentlemen! I hope you enjoy your break and stay safe! #TeamGreSuarell

[@samdalfthegray4495]

Stephen did have a great idea with those precon mash ups!

[@NotoriouslyADD]

Going into the game I was really concerned for Jeremy and that big ol casting cost on the Ur-Dragon. Boy howdy here there be dargons.

[@keep7smiling]

oh boy how wrong you were, Jeremy be casting dem dragons for 1 mana

[@castorfields9584]

I'm alittle disappointed Jeremy didn't just merc Justin before Justin had a chance to cast Ghave.

[@thenewlollipopjam8248]

Then you have all the Team Parnell fans complaining about unfair targeting.

[@darkywaf]

Jon would also have discarded the cards that he drew with greven to mindslicers trigger. As the creature sacrificing, losing life and drawing cards are all part of the same resolution

[@francescogulisano2917]

Jon thinking of Dragonheart is an underrated highlight of this video

[@scottmUTCS]

Thanks guys. Way to go Justin for the season win.

[@peterohare5629]

I'm impressed by the fact Stephen generated so much value from his Fertalid/Omnath combo. That's exactly no his play style

[@matthewbeard7841]

Not that it would have changed the outcome of Jeremy's dragon dominance, but Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury has a separate trigger for each dragon that attacks, not one single trigger counting each dragon that attacks, so activating Strionic Resonator would only copy a single one of those triggers giving his creatures an additional +1/+0, not an additional +8/+0. Either way dragons do be burnanating the countryside!

[@TheBigPenguu]

What's that quote about the hand from the grave on your throat? Jeremy solidly in last, comes in and goes for all the throats.

[@mjjdj88]

Hey. Still binging here. Justin just put on the greatest performance in any Commander VS season yet. Absolute massacre

[@corrosivecabal]

Double speed binge ™️✔

[@justingolden21]

Just built Ur dragon a few months ago, and have had a Ghave deck for a year or two, also planning on building Omnath (have mana and rage currently), so a very relevant game for me : )

[@MTGSavage]

This is definitely what the people wanted to see, we need more of user submitted decks in the future

[@Ash16180]

I believe Kolaghan's triggers are 8 seperate triggers, so copying will only make it +9/0, not +16/0. That doesn't matter in any way...

[@Shamrock501]

I believe Strionic Resonator was the culprit for the additional triggers.

[@GamerdevilPro]

@@Shamrock501 strionic resonator can only copy one of the triggers not all of them. That'd mean it would be +9/+0 instead of +16/+0. However while that's a big difference on paper it didn't matter at all in that game :D

[@rei336]

Stephen with the fruit snack engine

[@dimitriasimov356]

This further solidifies my decision to keep building decks that Jeremy plays on Commander Vs. Thanks for signing my Tasigur, now I'm gonna have to get ya to sign my Secret Lair Ur-Dragon 🐉

[@jayjay05021]

I feel we need music in the back ground to help with the audio drop outs lol.

[@hamishian0]

Great video! Entertainment from start to finish. Great job Justin you deserved it. Hi Stephen, hope you're doing well, lurking in the comments. Look forward to hearing your thoughts in Think Twice.

[@Akition]

I think ALOT of years ago i commented under a season 2 video that you guys should play Ghave, since its the first commander ive built (i started around that time back then) and it took TO THIS DAY FOR ME TO SEE IT :D

[@ImJustHereToWatch14]

Could Jeremy have won on turn 6 by activating Scion and going to get the Dethrone dragon?

[@ryans660]

Or the Double Strike Atarka?

[@LDRTrejo]

Neither of those cards technically work, the only way he could’ve after thinking about it would’ve been to get a permanent that gives all his creatures double strike. Terror of Mt Velus could’ve worked if he drew it but not off of scion Atarka and Dethrone dragon only trigger off of attack, and the window for that trigger has already pasted for them

[@greengovich9742]

@@LDRTrejo he could've transformed scion BEFORE going to combat, and then proceding to slaughter everyone. Ur dragon player around here

[@blackwingdragonmasta]

Yes.

[@couver2997]

All 4 of these decks look super fun. Congrats to the superfans that got selected.

[@mrsilverbutton7786]

Great end to the season guys! Can't wait for the next one!

[@landocamando4871]

Can I just make one request. Could you put the specialty lands up that y’all play? I’m new to magic and I love watching you guys play! I would love to see what some of those lands y’all play do! Love the channel!

[@jayseha5458]

More commander on the channel pls. You guys rock

[@doulosdphi]

Get em a body bag Jeremy!! #TeamNoell (Even if we all still lost cause Justin won the season)

[@TheBigPenguu]

Jeremy was champ 3 seasons in a row. We'll take that and run.

[@ronmarshall1566]

Those tri lands are so nice with far seek

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

See this is why Scion of the Ur Dragon is my Main deck, it doesn't always go nuts..but when it does..WHEW LADDIE.

[@ScornfulEg0tist]

Morophon is such a card

[@Killericon]

Reign of Fire should've been an all time classic in retrospect.

[@DraconisMarchVII]

I mean, it's solid, but I don't know if I'd go so far as to call it a classic.

[@swakage13x]

And this is why I bought the Ur-Dragon deck because just a few upgrades and boom you can decimate everyone else

[@regshowfan1600]

33:00 When he attacked with all his dragons he could have turned scion into atarka and gave them all double strike

[@benjamincaster8510]

absolutely LOVE Jeremy's shirt

[@tinosdragatsis]

Team Jeremy Noell. Sad he cannot get first place but he can steal second place.

[@grovestreet1520]

The special effects in Reign of Fire hold up very well imo. It's understandable that you would assume otherwise because movies in that Era generally look like doodoo. But there are exceptions like reign of fire and LOTR (practical effects go a long way way). Dragonheart... Not so much.

[@willofkhonshu7287]

UR DRAGON!!!! Dragon Tribal is the most fun at jank and high end

[@RandyPotatofeet]

Unlucky, i was not lucky enough to be picked still #Teamparnell forever! maybe next time :^)

[@MageSkeleton]

The Ur Dragon deck was actualy built to do things. The Omnath deck was an interesting idea but i think he started with a bad hand. The Greven deck also feels like he started with a bad hand though he did get some nice "value" stuff going he didn't actually get any boardstate built. The Ghave deck is not even in this game, it's off in left field looking at sunflowers and petting a cow or something Ghave probably doesn't even know there's a deck of cards to draw from or that there are cards that need to be "on the battlefiled" and Ghave just doesn't care. Ghave is basically "a free kill" where you could probably ignore him up to turn 11 and he'll still be "mid-maxing" petting that cow on the other side of the fence.

[@xarinth1]

I have 40 decks together at present (working towards 2nd full rainbow challenge, or whatever you wanna call it,) and would love if you guys used some of them in a Randomonium episode. They vary in power level and price. Anywhere from a 3-8 in power, and $60-$800. Most are around 5-6s and 3-400. If interested I can send a google doc link with links to all the decklists. (who knows, maybe more added by the time you use...)

[@vincentfeng9802]

huh, im also a simic lover, and scion of the ur-dragon was my first deck lol

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

We all know am biggest fan because or Else!!!!

[@kandjar]

What happen to the points Steven was supposed to get/loose per player based on how you like the second randomonium or "The demonic consultation of the spirit of randomness"?

[@aarong2606]

John looked pretty upset at this game so maybe he wasn't watching but Greven is a single trigger and the saccing and drawing has to happen all together. The mindslicer then resolves after he draws the cards

[@SainCheese]

Paused, commented, unpaused, replied. In that order. Good game, was neat to see yall playing some really op decks for a change. Also did I randomly get selected from youtube comments to play a 5 way game yet?

[@johnwilliamson8327]

After Jeremy puts in his four dragons he should’ve activated Scion and got Atarka to give them all double strike before going to combat. Assuming it’s in his deck, but it should be. Also the Mirari’s wake bonus +1/+1 would apply to the damage the turn it came in.

[@BAKABAKA23456789]

The mirari came off the top with the ur dragon trigger so you can't count that as part of the damages

[@johnwilliamson8327]

@@BAKABAKA23456789 you can because Ur Dragon puts it into play as part of the declare attackers step. Therefore the bonus is active before blockers are even declared.

[@NathanJ666]

Kolaghan triggers for each attacking dragon. It’s not one big trigger, it’s multiple.... even so, that game was over anyway. Could’ve copied The Ur-Dragon’s ability and drawn a bunch of cards. The dream start for that deck I’m sure.

[@blueeyedenvy9715]

So Yh Sorin should have dealt with that Morophon lol #captainhindsight

[@Raiziguana_asoleandose]

*Pause Stephen fetched wrong! *Unpause *Jeremy's comment "I'm leaving this comment here, anyway, good sir!"

[@cloaking111]

It doesn't say edited, so you're a liar good sir

[@Raiziguana_asoleandose]

@@cloaking111 thats the irony in the comment, clever sir

[@mystic9385]

Game starts at 12:53

[@riolufistofmight]

Real game starts at 39:15

[@Funkofages]

Gees Stephen, it's bad form to bring a snax deck to EDH.

[@jonathandenton3895]

Can't bounce ghost town on your turn.

[@CrimsonNites]

13:22 First land drop

[@wilfulbuckle13]

Where can we send deck list for them to play?

[@rydellbrundage6954]

It seems like everyone but Jeremy plays decks outside their comfort zone. Every deck he plays has insane ramp. Would be nice to see him play a deck without green...

[@nemoforever]

I know what you mean, but he did play Mangara this season, so that's something.

[@mathmagician5990]

You should do the commander precons again but just actually pick your commanders

[@chrisjones1473]

My name is chris Jones too lol hahaha but he wasn't talking about me 😁

[@carlgustke1475]

Do an episode with all the omnaths vs eachother

[@gabe3704]

I think I might steal the fruit snack engine for those long nights of commander.

[@imperialace6368]

I call Shenanigans as you can only gain 8 pts and everyone was behind 9 or more

[@matthewcutrona9515]

I need these to go back to being done in person like it should be

[@lokstir4568]

Season 21: The revenge of Wes Wise?

[@MrZang8393]

4! 4 Dragons! Ah ah ah!

[@happybrain2674]

i looked at all decklists and omnath has close to no carddraw, same goes to the dragon deck so they both ceeped a good hand on theyr game otherwise they would also be fast out of gas....

[@Crappuccino12]

Let’s goooooo #TeamSuarez

[@nathanmccarthy7910]

I appreciate the amount of Hoogland-isms out there that can immediately identify viewers. I see you, Jon. Sitting here in Garbage Time with the rest of us

[@DeadRanger4Ever]

No deck lists for this video? Or not yet?

[@keel1701]

The link is there now - it usually takes a bit before they put the link.

[@trevorpeters4976]

Like, comment, share, subscribe, binge....

[@andrea9342]

I don't think Jon should have kept the cards he drew sacrificing mindslicer, but discard them to its effect

[@omega3711]

Sacrificing Mindslicer triggers the draw, so I believe Mindslicer's effect resolves before the cards are drawn.

[@andrea9342]

@@omega3711 yeah, but it's a whole effect, idk, I am confused

[@magictcg]

@@omega3711 nope you have to resolve the whole ability first then mindslicer trigger then resolves

[@magictcg]

@@andrea9342 you are correct an ability can not resolve while another ability is in the middle of resolving

[@castorfields9584]

Correct. Because there isn't a colon after the sacrifice which would indicate that the the sacrifice is a cost. You then have to resolve all of green's ability and then put mindslicer trigger onto the stack.

[@rkbmcb]

#teamparnell season victory!

[@claytontalesfore7564]

Iv never seen one of these so soon after it gets posted 🤔

[@zztzgza]

Morophon is perfectly balanced.

[@johanandersson6268]

Go #TeamNoell and #TeamSuares!!

[@graveno17]

You guys should change seat order soon

[@LordWerwath]

I recently did this with my playgroup. I think we will do it every 3-4 sessions as it changes the dynamic so much.

[@cinco_de_la_tarde]

A shuffle could be interesting. Our playgroup randomizes seating for each game. It just matters SO much, especially for any deck running lots of interaction.

[@justinginnett7159]

if he activated the scion of the ur dragons ability and made it into the all dragons get double strikey dragon he couldve smacked em

[@MWorl91]

Pretty disappointing season for #TeamGreen but I’m still on board 100%. Congratulations to #TeamParnell for your well earned victory this season

[@stefanbrenner7551]

Team Green!

[@trayday1477]

when will the play order be shuffled again

[@T_Peazy]

Jeremy Looks like he has lost a lot of weight during quarantine.

[@marcuspainter4854]

*pauses video @**42:28* "CaN YoU bElIevE StePhEn FetChEd thE WRonG lanD?!?!" *closes KZbin window and never watches again*

[@2Saturos]

Was this bearded Jeremy?

[@Azraell01]

Bums me out I could not participate in this as not on twitter due to its rampant toxicity. So sad.....oh well guess I still can sit in the bleachers and cheer on Stephen Green. *HUGS*

[@angerpaw3838]

Shouldn’t Justin have sacked one of the Ajanis yo Uniqueness rule?

[@megaman161]

The Legend Rule applies to card with the same name. They're both Ajani, but the suffixes 'the Greathearted' and 'Caller of the Pride' differentiate them.

[@jonathandenton3895]

The uniqueness rule changed has to be the same card. Different Ajanis don't trigger it.

[@mikhailpayson1274]

TEAM FRUIT SNAK

[@jonathandenton3895]

No one was playing humans though, which is why you guys lost to the dragons.

[@thomasmadsen4255]

#teamgreen

[@TheKoolcatman]

Pff Shock land blue mana I’m leaving unpause

[@712toaster]

someone tell John to stop eating dice please.

[@trevorpeters4976]

Like, comment, share, subscribe, binge

[@Iamarandomface]

hello

[@supersaiyandrgnslayr]

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