Commander VS S11E8: Slimefoot vs Jhoira vs Shanna vs Arvad

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[@jonathonschuneman5284]

30:30 “Jon’s playing vintage, and I have a tapped ant queen” I think we all sympathize with Jeremy at some level at that poin

[@DeviltoGeorgia34]

The feels.

[@frankan6417]

#teamjeremy

[@gamefreak7ae]

Welcome to this weeks Commander VS - this weeks episode is about having two people watch two other people play magic

[@mayesj101]

I’m okay with Jon, Jeremy, and Stephen not knowing Zulaport hits everyone. I’m not okay with Justin not knowing what a Black staple does.

[@carlosjones6701]

Joshua Mayes he probably mistook blood artist ability

[@criscofields7242]

These guys only play on video. I don't expect expert plays from these clowns. "Reading the card, explains the card."

[@jakegetz5500]

TFW Justin has infinite damage on board and just continues to play the game.

[@spyguy4558]

37:44 Plays Westvale Abbey, 10 minutes later same turn, 44:44 asked if he played a land, 45:36 plays a 2nd land makes a saproling, game is at this point askew by a little bit, with an illegal black manasource available he should not have been able to reanimate 46:37 John would've still had metal worker and the game would've been different, John would've been up 2 life points. Justin's turn lasted eleven minutes and forty-six seconds from 37:34 to 49:20 at the end of the game Justin even admits he almost ran out and if he was one mana less 56:53

[@CyberNewType]

Gotta agree with Stephen, seems like him and Jeremy missed a memo about what kind of decks they all were playing.

[@twinkamikaze3524]

That is an amazing gift to Director Kyle. A signed card with a sketch! Bravo

[@nicholasrolo886]

"John's over here playing vintage, and I have a tapped ant queen" best quote ever

[@flashsg2004]

Professional magic as usual. History of this game: first land played - 37:45 I have not played land this turn: 44:48 plays second land 45:36 if I was 1 mana less: 56:56

[@DJTK119]

Zulaport Cutthroat is each opponent. Why it was better for this deck than Blood Artist. Glad you guys figured it out finally, good save, haha.

[@CoverofWinter]

It is sort of the same if the damage goes infinite though

[@DJTK119]

Yea, in the long run of the episode, it was. But that wasn't something that was planned from the beginning. Just kind of stumbled upon.

[@Aedryn6210]

I though they were shortcutting it because the other 2 were gaining life whenever a creature entered. though the slimefoot hits everyone as well so whenever he sacked a saproling they should of taken 1

[@DJTK119]

Yes, Suarez should have taken 2 damage every sacrifice, and they would have taken 2, but gained one. Either way, they would have still been losing more than they were gaining.

[@heltoupee]

37:46 - Justin plays Westvale Abbey. 44:45 - Justin says, "I still haven't played a land this turn". He played Abbey this turn. 45:36 - Justin plays Swamp, his second land for the turn. Oops. 56:56 - Justin says, "If I was 1 mana less...." I think maybe he paid 5 for a Slimefoot activation in there somewhere, maybe, but still... It can happen that we forget we played a land with ~8 minute turns, but still that game would have probably have had a different outcome. Question to the CMDRVS guys - have you thought about asking a judge to sit in over with Director Kyle to keep an eye on the game. I don't think anyone is going to mind if the judge catches a mistake and you take the 30 seconds or whatever to fix it live. Not saying that would eliminate every mistake, but it would help. You guys are still my favorite Commander group to watch - a better eye on the rules would make it even better.

[@PeteDoesGames]

Hel Toupee there is no way they would ever go through the trouble of having a judge watch the game. This is for fun, there are no real prizes on the line. They don't really care about mistakes because, again, it's for fun

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

I like the mistakes. It makes things more interesting and keeps the casual feel that makes this show entertaining to me alive and strong. I think a judge would be a step towards taking things too seriously.

[@mitchlyon5551]

xOldSkoolHollywooDx it is still against the rules. Casual doesnt mean you get to cheat, just because you forgot (And the other people didn't catch it)

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

"Cheating" implies it was intentional. People tend to make mistakes when they start going off on a long tangent, particularly when it wasn't necessary planned for at that moment. Besides, these guys are good friends. I'm sure none of them would intentionally cheat, nor would they get salty over one extra land drop. And regardless, hiring a judge to watch over the game would subtract from the experience a lot. Having someone step in every time a mistake is made and force them to correct it would break the flow of the episode, and make them prioritize being hyper-focused on every little detail of the game over having fun playing it. This channel doesn't need to be that serious. I don't choose to watch this because I want to see spotless gameplay. There are plenty of other channels that tout that style. I watch because the laid-back nature of the show and the players makes for an entertaining experience. TL;DR No judges. That would be overbearing and boring.

[@ttuts9082]

if you don't know whether or not you played a land, the answer is yes. you did. and no, no one else at the table is going to allow for the possibility of you playing two by mistake because you can't keep track of your own turn.

[@francescogulisano2917]

This episode is dedicated for all the people that miss the good old 1v1 commander vs series

[@Ravanstrike2009]

Love you justin. It's always a pleasure to watch. But dont slow play these poor folks. You got the lock. Slimefoot, doubling season and alter. Just demonstrate the loop and give us another game man. Love you... but still

[@Tantrumspam]

#slimetime

[@Pandaneedshug]

I agree that it would've been nicer to shave 5-10 minutes off the game, and maybe play a second game.

[@justinanderson1203]

I feel he was unconvinced of the lock because they both gained life off his saps entering the bf. That in addition to his misplay of cutthroat and blood artist seems to have confused him. I was cringing as well when he played doubling season followed by artist and didn't realize he had the win.

[@jaredmuiselaar7409]

Waiting for them to realize the cutthroat hits everyone

[@jaredmuiselaar7409]

Lol doesn't even matter

[@YaoBao1]

Jared Muiselaar Did get there though :P

[@Oko_Plz]

Also he had infinite damage with altar doubling season slimefoot and artist

[@AdamGuite]

Thomas Kraak don't even need artist

[@xquizate8777]

profile pic is my face

[@Chooch1080]

@22:24 Director Kyle's face appears. I don't know what it means but it made me scared lol

[@spyguy4558]

Director Kyle in a previous season made a wall deck for the guys to play

[@POONTUNEv2]

same, i was like did something pop up, and then watched it again to make sure i saw something

[@Marshall5136]

Puneet Kapoor I had to rewatch myself but it was there.

[@fukes1465]

I was scared haha

[@Lucarioguild7]

Chooch1080 Oh good it wasn't just me that saw it

[@fractalsloth]

22:24-22:25 confirmed Director Kyle West is Screenslaver

[@MrZoichi]

#TeamSuarez rocking the best Weather light Captain! Gonna use this list as part of my inspiration for the redesign of my artifact EDH deck.

[@hinatasninetailedfox]

This was two real commanders versus two decks that were way too fair based on generals alone.

[@TheGameGroundsHQ]

Also, the wall deck is viable! New Arcades! I request new EDH with the new OG Dragons and Justin to play a viable Wall deck with Arcaded!

[@MestHoop]

Ah, #TeamParnell back on Golgari. All is good in the world.

[@robertfraser5221]

Jeremy Noell : What happened to Split Second? There haven't been any in a long time.

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

What was with the Fight Club-style flash of Director Kyle's face at about 22 minutes in?

[@andimayer1119]

Felt like kitchen table vs legacy ...

[@BelzaBob]

This is the lets watch Justin play magic episode.

[@vlodvonhellsing]

At 53:30, Justin had the game won. sac the two saprolings to ashnods altar, generating 4 mana and dealing 2 damage to opponents, spend 4 mana to create saproling with slimefoot, geeting 2 because doubling season and repeat.

[@ryanburks937]

37:47 Justin plays Westvale Abbey as his land for turn 45:40 (obnoxiously long turn btw) Justin played his SECOND land for turn. Ironically kills John with that last sap but wouldn’t have been able to do it had he not cheated in a 2nd land. Pretty sure John would’ve either won the next turn or at least killed a couple of people.

[@Misinterpretationn]

This episode was good, but I didn't really like it because Justin and John were playing pretty competitive decks with infinite combos and all against what looked like funner decks. This show is great because its what I want my own playgroup to be like. Strong decks but built without being too strong so you can at least reach the 10 turn mark. This game sadly fell short of that 'fun' interactive game expectation by quite a bit sadly.

[@metalsabatico]

Came here because I wanted to see what a properly built Slimefoot deck was capable of. I was not disappointed.

[@qtl7181]

Man sometimes it feels like everyone's having fun and just playing to have a good time, then other times it feels like suarez and Justin just go hard into the paint with the most powerful decks while Stephen gets mana screwed and Jeremy is like 50/50 whether he can play or not

[@ThePoesn]

Doubling season, Slimefoot, Altar just wins the game. Especially with an artist.

[@weslawrence888]

Zulaport is each opponent.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

"We're doing a format that we have done previously, this season." You cheeky cheeksters.

[@darbymckilkannoncaid3279]

What format, is it just commander and he's being sly?

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Darby McKilkannoncaid Yeah it's just regular old commander lol

[@golemgaming1687]

You guys play every commander thank you so much

[@apohto4166]

I hate the argument about Jon's deck "you could play red and blue legendaries" sure he could intentionally build his deck in a sub-optimal way, but why? It's a strong commander if they didn't want something like that to happen they should have considered the power of Jhoira vs the power of the other commanders at the table and picked a replacement for Jhoira. I enjoy watching this series because they don't intentionally play bad decks all the time like MTG Goldfish commander clash.

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

Yeah if play like John you friends hate you just like Mitch jhoira deck

[@ethanglaeser9239]

Sooooo, Zulaport Cutthroat misplayed right?

[@Zanzibawrr]

Are you not going to play with battlebond legends?

[@seanclark4071]

I fully agree with Justin's statement that Slimefoot is the most important weatherlight member

[@54m0h7]

Justin won the second he played Doubling Season. Make 1 with Slimefoot, which makes 2, sac both to Ashnods Altar for 4, make 1 which gives 2, rinse/repeat.

[@D1j1tleShr4pnl]

Anyone else notice the flashed on face at 22:20 I was like "what the hell was that?" And had to rewind and watch.

[@Lunaraia]

*in the voice of Darkest Dungeon's Narrator* Remind yourselves that Slimefoot is a slow and insidious killer....

[@BladedEdge123]

Man.. I know there is a lot of belly aching but its a running theme with the Games Justin wins. He takes super long turns, he has inevitability 30 minutes before the game is over, etc. Like I get it, the games he doesn't win are like last week, he essentially does nothing. But man, there is a nice middle ground between those two extremes, surely? I also get its the kind of decks he likes to play, and thus its what you get when you include him in a game. But I'm super glad I've taken to skipping ahead to check when it becomes clear this might be a Parnell win's video, as I always end up saving myself a solid 20+ minutes, at least. Nothing to be done about, but it deserves saying none the less.

[@matthugenberg8869]

I feel that you already have recorded, but I feel Jon should 100% get to choose points order because Justin actually did a huge mistake of playing the extra land and Jon would have 100% won the game with aetherflux and would have chosen who died in what order. I don't think you guys will, but I feel you guys should.

[@alexisnunez3533]

I am the Justin Parnell of my play group. I’m tempted to get him to sign my chainer.

[@slick_rickgaming1102]

Justin I watched your match at the scg invite against George Carr, you were on esper historic deck (cool idea), great match and great effort out there much love from a fellow esper player

[@PhazonOmega]

Everyone should be losing two life at a time with Slimefoot and Zulaport Cutthroat. Each hit everyone. Zulaport is a Blood Artist with different stats.

[@ChristiantrospectiveGamer]

Stephen, it's time to break out Karlov or Skullbriar

[@conqproj]

35:47 Interesting moment here, not only did Jon overpay for the Metalworker by forgetting the reduction of the Inspector, the Metalworker was the 13th spell Jon cast that turn, so if it had been Aetherflux Reservoir instead (using the 3 full mana from the Sol Ring + Voltaic Key) he could have gained at least 99 life from the cards that followed (Thought Vessel, Fellwar Stone, Mind Stone, Izzet Signet, Mox Amber, Metalworker (by using the Mox Amber and Izzet Signet for mana)). Quite amazing how that single change could have ended the game completely different! :)

[@DeadBuiltLikeGoblinLackey]

Heyyyy im early this week good to see #TeamParnell back with the Golgari Swarm

[@framacken]

justin parnell played westvale abbey and a swamp in one turn tsktsktsk

[@imperialace6368]

And Kill poor Jon by one mana - go figure

[@BenThompsonJazzStudiesProgram]

30:22 Best Quote Ever

[@smargio]

I like the idea of playing a legend and an artifact belonging to them as your commander. You guys should do that sometime.

[@jameslaux2970]

With how much black Justin plays, I am surprised he mixed up blood artist and zulaport cutthroat. But either way I am glad to see Justin dominate with a Golgari deck. Especially Slimefoot as I love my Slimefoot deck. #Slimetime

[@kedros45]

37:46 to 49:15 should be redone... plenty of mistakes were made including playing 2 lands in the same turn (westvale abbey + a swamp later) and Cuthroat (which drains each opponent) was mistaken for Blood artist (which targets a player). Jon would definetely have lived, and perhaps combo'd off the next turn

[@buddatello]

14:35 game start you are welcome

[@jwych11]

I hate how everyone gets pissed when John tries to play powerful magic cards but then are all the sudden super supportive of it when it’s Justin who infinites everyone. John is the most unlucky person on the show I swear. Team Suarez all the way.

[@Fighting_irish493]

I don’t know if you guys know but slimefoot actually deals the damage so you have to drain players for 21 points of damage until you technically kill everyone with commander damage

[@stefanocorno4649]

Couldn't Justin just win around 54:00 with doubling season and the altar? He had 2 drainers, so he could outpace warden and authority if he went at them one at a time EDIT: I guess he did lol

[@sirkitteh9482]

When Slimefoot, Ashnod's Altar and Doubling Season gives you an infinite damage to every opponent combo, but Justin didn't want the episode to end super soon XD

[@jonathangreer9147]

justin plays at 38:08 taps for 9 mana plays 4 mana creature say stil haf 6 mana plays 2 mana creature ,taps 2 mana with woud be 6 plays commander for 7 mana

[@ExtinctMorals]

Sooooo how do we rectify Parnell getting two landrops the turn he killed Suarez? Would have much rather seen Jhoira win 😞

[@zacharywages8153]

Tiny cup equipped. #cuptribal

[@Lucarioguild7]

#SlimeTime I love saps and Justin exemplifies why I'm not that fond of Papa Slimefoot, it's more of a combo deck that uses tokens to win instead of being a token deck

[@bq1013]

I have a question about shanna, sisays legacy. But can she be destroyed by the likes of shock or firebolt? The wording on the card is weird and all the rulings I've found online are... indistinct considering "technical" rulings and terms. The closest I've found that made sense was a reddit post basically Which said "If it comes from the battlefield its an ability if it comes from the hand its a spell" Which is a reddit post

[@twinkamikaze3524]

For those wondering why the flash of Director Kyle. "You gotta leave them wanting more". #scoops #cmdrvs #teamgreen

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

#slimetime

[@troytrain5363]

22:25 you are all welcome

[@jedsuntheimer8871]

Troy Orozco do you know why he put that in?

[@MrCeall]

Oh thankyou

[@sebastianlaluz5378]

Director Kyle made a wall deck in a previous episode.

[@zennyme5626]

Loved this game for the combos.

[@IamJoshEast]

I cannot see what is drawing Justin these cards everytime something dies, can someone help? I might be missing something

[@vyongaming4498]

53:39 Justin won right there with doubling season ashnods altar slimefoot and blood artist.

[@topkapi9351]

Was there something reducing the cost of Smothering Abomination when Justin cast it? Because otherwise: 9-4 = 5, not 6.

[@unders0000]

51:00 The Ol' Steven Green Hand Peek

[@Bigguyinblack]

Justin played Westvail Abbey at the start of his super long turn. I suspect he drew the reanimate at a point where he could only produce colorless. Not saying he was trying to cheat but Jonathan would still have had his Metalworker and Justin would have had 1 less creature to sacrifice.

[@aarong2606]

45:37 Justin already played Westvale Abbey as his land for turn no?

[@Grimpo96]

Awe yeah, Justin played Slimefoot. Now, to see who gets to Pilot Najeela :D

[@alsicles]

Dat scoop on 22:25 xD

[@gregrocks1223]

I spent way too long trying to see director kyle's face at 22:25. Popped up for what I am assuming is 1 frame.

[@classicsidepart1477]

I know it might be a little late, but I would appreciate Stephen playing Mairsil, the Pretender soooooo much!!!

[@AverageGamersInc]

That feel when Justin doesn't use the on-board infinite combo to immediately win

[@LettaaKnurl]

#TeamParnell Biggest fan here. Can you play Krav, the Unredeemed and Regna, the Redeemer. It's all about sacrifice, creating tokens to sacrifice and gaining life. I also have a secret goal for you, gain as much life as possible so you can Aetherflux Reservoir Stephen in the face. Ultimating that doesn't happen nearly enough as it should.

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

Yup Team #Scumbag

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

Justin deck was 11 Steve and Jeremy deck were like 5

[@Tantrumspam]

1:00:50 Justin ssssure loves that straw long time. xD

[@johnhoover7092]

wait a moment...when Justin sacked zulaport for mana to make another saproling when jon was at 2, when he sacrificed the last saproling, doesn't that put jon at 1? where did the extra damage come from at that point?

[@sparkythespooderduck8723]

I'm not here for the big misplays, but metalic mimic is a saporling when you sacrificed it

[@jasonsteavens158]

22:25 Director Kyle's face flashes #Scoops #EasterEggs

[@irishrunner27]

where do we get decklists? i have a slimefoot i adore but i'd love to see any juicy tech in #TeamParnell 's deck

[@atomicpork]

This IS the type of deck want to see Justin play, just wish Stephen and Jeremy had brought equally powerful decks.

[@Sakharee]

53:40 when Stpehen used Oblivion Ring, shouldn't Justin not be able to Combo out? I mean the reaction to oblivion is sacking the creatures but when he gets the mana, Oblivion Ring resolves after that? Its like he is ignoring the stack with the oblivion ring. Anyways he could have comboed out in his turn as soon as doubling season was on the board.

[@PhazonOmega]

Fuel for the homunculus fan fiction!

[@B_Shady42]

Drain army in full effort. Hoorah Parnell!

[@lukeroden3593]

Good video for 2 people. Didnt really get too see much off Stephen or Jeremy's decks unfortunately. With the number off errors (im not going too say cheats) in this episode though it maybe time too impliment point deductions from scores for them.

[@jmcauley650]

*Watching this episode a week late* "Jon's not going to play Doran" *Looks down to see Doran in the thumbnail for the next episode*

[@jtizzle450]

Couple of things, Jon should have used the pact of negation on the reanimation... would have effectively ended Parnell's turn and Jon would have been alive. Second... having the Doubling Season + Slimey Boi + Ashods + Blood Artist would kill someone even with the life gain on the field. Sac 2 dudes.. two dmg to each player, 2 dmg from blood artist to target, nets 2 saprolings = even tho they gain 2 life there is a net loss of 2 dmg for at least one opponent while the other stays net 0.

[@matthewlarson9162]

john's deck looks sweet

[@jessiewilburn2020]

At 54:01 everyone was dead. Justin had an infinite loop.

[@kevinlemley5962]

Was Jeremy referencing Repo: The Genetic Opera with his prey counter song? Because if so, that's fantastic!

[@jtizzle450]

Isn't Raff apart of the Weatherlight crew? I figured someone what have been apart of that good good

[@BushRat253]

Slimefoot seems freaking sweet.

[@gustavowadaslopes2479]

Sad for Steven. Now things should be 24Justin/21Soares/23Jeremy/23Stephen. That's still a close range.

[@nolifeSnorlax]

The Decklist link doesn't work :(

[@Locket-Key]

Justin not playing black for a while has made his "art of the sac" rusty. Loved the late catch handwave, but both cutthroat AND Slimefoot drain / damage each opponent. End result is the same, but would have been nice to wrap things up quicker and maybe get a game 2. Still love you though, and happy you got the win.

[@mjjdj88]

Yassss finally Slimefoot!!!

[@Rhomsgaming]

zulaport cutthroat is each opponent isn't it?