Commander VS S12E6: ??? vs ??? vs ??? vs ??? [EDH]

[@wizkida981015]

I love how ever since CMDRVS adopted "It's our show, we do what we want", the comment section has slowly become "It's our comment section, we do what we want"

[@nicholasrolo886]

Or it just became "you did this wrong" or "This was optimal" or "As an X main I hurt seeing it played like that"

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Yeah I'm gonna need to see the whole alignment chart you got your profile pic from

[@wizkida981015]

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[@cloaking111]

Game starts at 2:00:00

[@zo-zu7158]

I legit was about to fastforward to 2:00:00 XD

[@panthersfan3168]

Jeremy my heart goes out to you. I lost the same person in my life recently. Unfortunately they decided to take their own life. None the less it’s harder on the living. I hope you find some peace and comfort. You have my condolences.

[@nicholasrolo886]

What happened?

[@TheCalamity13]

his dad died. I am sorry for Jeremy and his family.

[@panthersfan3168]

Brennan Dempsey, yeah I didn’t wanna put specific details out there in my case or his for a reason. It’s nice to be able to keep some things private.

[@nicholasrolo886]

@@panthersfan3168 I understand, but not everyone follows him on other platforms.

[@panthersfan3168]

Nicholas Thegeek I don’t follow them on any platform except here on KZbin, I just googled last week why there wasn’t an episode and did a little reddit digging.

[@Justiceinall]

Man I can't believe they talked so long, played Planeswalker commanders, Stephen drank some water and Parnell didn't have a tiny cup. I'm never watching this show again.

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

I can deal with the long talking sessions, Planeswalker commanders, and even Stephen drinking some water. But Justin not having a tiny cup is beyond unacceptable. Just a travesty.

[@ryanhansen9779]

I see a tiny cup in his future, I Played Future Sight.

[@airkami]

bye felicia

[@maximusfatticus]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@nicholasrolo886]

Everyone boycott them! :p

[@Crunchatize_Me_Senpai]

Keep doing things your way, screw what everyone else says. I probably wouldn't watch this if you guys weren't so nonchalant about everything and just started basing all your decisions on what the viewers want instead of what you think is fun.

[@oliverspeck2784]

I second that very strongly. You guys do your rules. If anything I think it encourages more people to propose liuttle house rules to their playgroups and I think, that's a great thing. It encourage dialog. And thatt's always great

[@leoskucera3655]

@1:22:50 you can flashback Blink of an Eye and kick it as kicker is additional costs so as long as you're casting the spell (Torrential Gearhulk eg) you can kick it.

[@francescogulisano2917]

Condolences for your loss, Jeremy, I hope that your father will be able to help many others. Please take care of yourself

[@Optimator7]

Thanks for showing their hands and scrys so often on camera! It really helps

[@everettstatz1682]

I'm really sorry to hear about your dad Jeremy. He's in a better place now and it's pretty awesome that his last act of kindness was helping as many as people as he can.

[@williamkorb8211]

Condolences Jeremy, whether you are close or not it’s never easy losing family. Stay strong and play on!

[@Azraell01]

Jeremy I have been an organ donor or listed as one ever since I got my first license when I was 16 and I'm 39 now. I love to think maybe some part of me will help someone and maybe they can do something great with their life....maybe I can be a part of that. To think my last act would be something that helps someone else means the world to me.

[@NevR5]

7:30 It looks like Justin and Jon just switch shirts 🤣 #teamgreen #slimetime #commandervs

[@TripleGProductions]

Sorry for your loss Jeremy. Ive been a donor for all my time i could too. Wish you and your family the best in this hard time

[@BAndersJ74]

Sorry for your lost Jeremy.

[@kyojitakenouchi9706]

You cannot pay an alternate cost with another alternate cost (Sunbirds Invocation and Overload) but you can pay additional cost with alternate cost (Flashback and Kicker)

[@najomage]

Kyoji Takenouchi flashback is an alternate cost as well, not an additional

[@kyojitakenouchi9706]

@@najomage I was giving an example of what alternate cost that works with additional cost

[@TheVWarriors]

@@najomage kicker is additional....

[@trevorknight3904]

I really enjoyed your movie/TV inspired deck episode and would like to see that happen again. I converted the Vampire precon into a deck based on House Lannister from Game of Thrones. Edgar Markov plays the role of Tywin Lannister and general for the deck.

[@mdoughty]

honestly really impressed that Justin nailed the aetherborn pronouns at 1:34:38, and that you guys generally do a great job at recognizing all the female characters. the show can feel like a bit of a boys club sometimes but women & trans ppl really appreciate the representation

[@hamishian0]

I'm sorry that you are going through that Jeremy. Thanks for your message.

[@sittacarolinensis8448]

Love you guys, keep on doing what ever you please!

[@sugarwater2716]

Did team green miss a Sunbird's trigger on Terminate? CMC 2 isn't the best trigger, but it wouldn't be an MTG video comments section if we didn't point out everything.

[@joemcmahon5131]

If you cast a card “without paying its mana cost,” you can’t pay any alternative costs. You can, however, pay additional costs. If the card has any mandatory additional costs, such as that of Costly Plunder, those must be paid to cast the card.

[@kristianovergaard1112]

Want this podcast in 4K to see the magic in all it's glory and detail.

[@buddadragonmtg4848]

Thank God y'all r back it was a boring week last week not having some commander shinnanigans to watch.

[@lagavulinmtg5120]

As a competitive player I'm so upset with how John handled his turns. As a viewer I understand why it was done this way. You guys are true showman. Someone should have milled Justin tho...

[@JS-nq6ec]

He could've taken extra turns forever, and he knew that he could. But he also knew that wouldn't have been very enjoyable for everyone else. I'm pretty glad he played it the way he did.

[@nicholasrolo886]

Since when was this a competitive edh channel? I for one would not watch competitive. All the same staplesand "goodstuff" and games end in 3 turns with stupid infinites.

[@lagavulinmtg5120]

@@nicholasrolo886 When did I say anything about CEDH? What I mean is he had the win on the board and just chose not to use it. He didn't copy Ral's ult. He didn't use his ult again. He reforged the soul giving his opponents answers. John is a master class player. They make choices to make the episode better and as I said I lile that.

[@ryanhansen9779]

@@lagavulinmtg5120 some days, it's just for fun and showmanship ad you said.

[@ultiplayer1]

I was wondering why there wasn't a video last week. Sorry for your loss Jeremy. +1 on being an organ donor. Also, recommend donating blood if you can.

[@ultiplayer1]

@50:30 that is why Burnished Hart is really a 6 mana creature. Because if you cast it for 3 without 3 mana to sac it, invariably someone will destroy it to deny you value.

[@Cryonicity]

1:08 "Let's go back in time and see what happens." They swapped clothes haha

[@martintaylor570]

So sorry for your loss Jeremy, I hope you and your family are okay.

[@daleway5429]

Loved Justin saying goodbye to all the PW haters at the beginning haha. Also so happy you guys are back.

[@kingfuzzy2]

I don't like planeswalker's at all but I still watch because they (mostly) keep the power level equal when they do.

[@Dunnbunn08]

Man I sure do wish I had really "bad" deck like John's deck considering that it costs about $1,600. Aaaanyway good video

[@zachking8769]

Theme idea: each choose a legendary spell from dominaria and use that as your Commander. Casting requirements and Commander tax still apply.

[@tylerstegman6846]

Id still like to see an episode where you guys play non legendary commanders that you feel should have been legendary due to their abilty/abilities. For example, Herald of leshrac. Stealing everyones lands is rediculous and no hige downside to him. Drogskol Reaver is another. Flying lifelink double strike that when you gain life you draw a card. Thats rediculous. Evasion, 2 possible hits, and huge card advantage possibilities

[@davidmyers4524]

Go Team Gold!! Hate to see you lose but happy to see you get second! (Like always) Great vid! Never a dull moment. You guys should do common cards as commanders and build normal decks from that.

[@enchantedeve2297]

Always love the Arena of the Absolutely Arbitrary!

[@twinkamikaze3524]

That Planeswalker's art is amazing

[@guilhermeribeiromichelino3852]

Hey Jeremy, I hope you are ok. My condolences

[@erodoneo]

Quality work as always guys.

[@keep7smiling]

In Austria every person is an organ donor by default. You have to actually go to some magistrative office if you don't want that. We are europes organ bank basically, but honestly I feel like every country should be doing this.

[@nicholasrolo886]

You realize some countries wont due to religious reasons right

[@lSirCumference]

Can't get enough of this commander series

[@XxXxXxChiixXxXxX]

I think the biggest mistake all of them made was forgetting that Lattice lets them spend mana as if it was any color :x

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

Nah it was John let’s Steve win because he didn’t have counter spell he should got counter spell with his Tutor what’s with John letting people win

[@kc1423]

So today, I grabbed a shirt from my dad (who doesn't know anything about star wars) and it had the millennium falcon on it. I now go to watch this video and Jeremy has the exact shirt! This was in a span of 2 hrs

[@ascariat]

That doge pillow was staring at me alot this episode

[@phantom_lux3412]

Sorry for your loss Jeremy

[@Lucarioguild7]

Game ends at 1:48:52 for the people here for the sweet sweet commentary

[@fractalsloth]

DId justin and Jon switch shirts for the time jumps?

[@charlessloan1963]

WOO #TEAMGREEN FOR THE COMEBACK. Those Dargons were kicking everyone's butt for half the game though.

[@yorkazord319]

But you can flash back blink of and eye and kick it.... that's a bad reference 1:22:40 you cant pay alternative costs for free, but you can spend additional mana to pay additional costs on cast, so if you payed the 1u 1generic then you could kick it. buuuut you cant do alternative casting costs such as overload on a "cast for free" card/ability

[@spades6188]

Loved the video as usual. Keep it up!

[@joshualynn9337]

Always enjoy your videos

[@9DymOctane]

Did they say they entered the Susan Surandom?

[@rockets_meowth]

Jeremy, the new glasses are killer.

[@Dawggie69]

Glad to see the boys back in action #teamgreen

[@lostindasauce1775]

Another win for the good guys! #TeamGreen

[@victorcollazo5086]

Sorry for your lost Jeremy. Wishes to u and your family. P.S. I still haven't heard if I won the giveaway or not... #patientlywaiting

[@nicholasrolo886]

I really hope I won tbh

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

No way, I won...Well I feel like I won LOL:P

[@abaysi00ify]

Pre game banter is the best part

[@kh-i]

Man Jon's saheeli deck sounds really cool. Sad we didn't get to see it.

[@zachking8769]

Theme idea: Master and Apprentice. Choose a rare/mythic and an uncommon legendary creature to partner with each other. I think Sram and Valduk would be fun. Slimefoot and meren would be probably too good, but slimefoot and and Thelon could be fun. I'm sure there are better ones out there.

[@JSYantiss1]

Nice Lion King reference! BE PREPAAAAAAAAARED!

[@ryanhansen9779]

Yay, Commander Vs are Back! Love you guys, this is my favorite part of my day, goofy group, and Susan Sorandom. Also my first time as commenter under #20. Keep it consistent and classy!

[@najomage]

So when they did the rewind in the video, did Justin and John switch shirts or is it just me? Freaked me out a bit lol

[@ultiplayer1]

@1:08 I think your time travel machine has a glitch in it. It swapped Justin and Jon's shirts.

[@hnjahnjah]

1:42:20 Stephen resolved Sunbird's invocation but forgot to resolve Sadrobot! HA!

[@BenDy3223]

Jeremy Noell referencing Lauren Lapkus' Shock Tarts story on Threedom at 19:12 ?

[@aarong2606]

Permanents are things on the battlefield. Mycosynth would have to say "all cards are artifacts" to retrieve inventor's fair from the graveyard

[@vatusia]

Exactly. The ruling text on Gather states "Mycosynth Lattice turns all permanents on the battlefield into artifacts. Spells on the stack and cards in other zones aren’t permanents, so those spells and cards don’t become artifacts." Not that it made too much of a difference.

[@wogboym8]

It's our comment section, we do what we want

[@BearsawPrime]

Unwatchable no small cup for Justin

[@daneerickson8796]

I have never before seen a lattice last that long before a win.

[@FernandoRojas-py6fn]

Can you please share the saheeli rai deck that john suarez said? the decklist

[@th3giv3r]

I'm a little surprised nobody had Unlicensed Disintegration in their decklists.

[@NightKev]

Justin must really have wanted vandalblast to go off, because he passed up lethal on Jeremy to deal a pointless 4 damage to Chandra, leaving Jeremy at 1hp.

[@duuet5614]

Justin could have rakdos charmed ral zarek, why didn't he?

[@RETURNTOMONKAE]

#JusticeforJonathan

[@jtizzle450]

Anybody else notice that Jon and Justin basically switched shirt colors after the 'advance in time'? I have to imagine this was planned

[@ultiplayer1]

@51:10 Jon, you didn't copy Ral Zarek's ultimate, after you and Stephen just finished talking about it?

[@alexpoole6607]

Is there a way we can see the decklist for Jon's Saheeli deck? #teamsuarez

[@IndyColts317]

I'm sorry CMDR Vs. guys, I mean I know Jeremy had a tough week and all, but that kind of huge mistake (Inventor's Fair + Mycosynth gaining tons of life) is kind of off putting. He would definitely not have died, he would have tons of life. You guys work for SCG, is there any way to get some kind of judge in the room, maybe a silent observer who will only speak up and interrupt when there is an issue? Especially a glaring, game changing one like that. I love ya'll though, and I offer my sincerest condolences to Jeremy. Not gonna stop watching the show or subscribing and supporting ya'll, keep putting out the best commander content on the web.

[@JParnell1]

Reread Inventors Fair.

[@IndyColts317]

AHAHAHA. Im an idiot. Im gonna leave my comment up, because I deserve the shame for not RFC and posting a critical comment. Love you Justin.

[@JParnell1]

@@IndyColts317 Its all good man, I think it's about 50/50 whether or not we get something wrong so I get why you were suspicious!

[@TheMrBigShot96]

Did john and justin switch each others shirt color on purpose?

[@ToniMayol]

Like hell there is water in Stephen's cup

[@astrid_257]

I'm sad that we didn't see the Saheeli Rai deck from Jon :(

[@Daemonite]

Ayn Randharmonicon! Aggrandized Arena of the Arbitrary! Reticulated Randomonium!

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

The things one can do with a Mirage Mirror, almost like that card has no ceiling:P

[@feralwolf5452]

2 hr long episode? Yass

[@nittanyjohn]

Grandharmonicon?

[@jamesclark9187]

i haven't even seen the decks yet, but just watched the spins. I know everyone loves susan surandom, who doesnt, but it has absolutely driven me crazy since the very first day how janky and poorly that thing spins. Throw on some counterweights, lube up the bearings and make that thing actually whirl. Its so unsatisfying how no one has ever been able to get it to really spin smoothly.

[@multeyemeteor]

Did Jeremy and Jon just change t-shirts?

[@wraith.ferron]

How about a commander Commander match up? You can make decks, but may only use cards printed in commander products.

[@aven78]

This is the main reason I'll never use Mycosynth Lattice, it's too easy to get blown out by that.

[@MrBrandon669]

Does Ramos, dragon engine’s ability to add prog mana double with the rings, even if it states once per turn with that ability on the card?

[@megaspiderification]

It does. The once per turn applys to how many times you can activate the ability itself, not how many copies of it you can have on the stack.

[@shawnsloss]

wow john doesn't look to exited in the beginning lol

[@whiled_payne4324]

how does jeremy have to plansewalkers of the same name?

[@OodustwindoO]

Please please please do this but partner the gods! It'll be so much fun to see

[@runningbull73]

I am a simple person I watch Commander VS I Like Commander VS.

[@CalderaWolf]

i was expecting the board to just be jon getting beat up by 3 vial smashers

[@christiandunstan4235]

I noticed that you guys seemed to be mindful of your amounts of coloured mana when Mycosynth Lattice lets you "spend mana as though it were mana of any color."

[@musicfeltnotheard]

permanent card and permanent are definitely different things, can't get fair from buried ruin w/ lattice in play. Jon was correct.

[@williamachenbach348]

Team Green BayBay!

[@justinkp]

So sorry Jeremy.

[@mythiccmouse6214]

Yall should make your spinner updated to have 5 color but really thin lol.

[@avengedbulletromance]

watching stephen scry away both inferno titan and vial smasher hurt me deep.....

[@yklys10s]

Justin says "we'll jump forward in time".. In other words, he traded his shirt with John. lol