Commander VS S14E1: Muldrotha VS Valduk VS Tatyova VS Arixmethes [EDH]

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[@eathonhowell7414]

And finally, after thirteen seasons, Stephen Green has cast a land.

[@kingfuzzy2]

He has cast arixmethes in the commander precon before this episode.

[@dillonj9889]

As soon as I saw the commanders I couldn't help but be excited for the Esteban Verde Tuesday Especial Land Casting Fiesta.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Beautiful

[@lracseroom8286]

There is an absolute sea of EDH content on KZbin. And Commander Vs is the Kraken! 3 hours of #TeamGreen (and to a lesser extent the other 3 colours)? Sign me up!

[@Punintentionally]

YES! FINALLY! Great to see you guys again.

[@KBgamer2010]

Hey guys at Commander Vs, a great theme for an upcoming game would be 4 mono black decks each with a Demon Lord of Liliana, Griselbrand, Kothophed, Razaketh and Belzenlok...all 4 meets each other and fights over Liliana's soul

[@jmwheelz12]

Kiefer Baker yesssss, and literally they can have Liliana passed around kind of like the monarch emblem! Whenever you deal damage to who ever has control of Lili, they gain control of her.

[@KBgamer2010]

@TheLarsonist7 Lets get Director Kyle to play too and play Bolas (Using Archenemy Nicol Bolas set)

[@frankieh]

One of those cards is better than the others by a not insignificant amount.

[@jeremylindemann3933]

I've been a vorthos since I started playing in Ice Age, and I LOVED Xantcha on the cards; even more-so when the novels came out. I've always been disappointed that she didn't get a legend card back in the day, and WotC finally made me one in 2018. I immediately built her, and she very quickly became my favorite commander deck, and she has a pretty good win percentage in my play group. She 100% gets my vote for the best commander released.

[@ZanZerejin]

Yaaay! You are back! Looking foward to this season :)

[@cameronworley1600]

I for one love the 3 hour video. It’s more time of watching these 4 very entertaining gentlemen

[@GameSkunki]

Finally I was hoping for this day to come! Every episode of Commander VS

[@jamesclark9187]

loving the tablewide change to those nice full art lands,, they are beautiful and really help with following the mana. Well done boys.

[@robertcotrell9810]

I built myself an Arixmethes deck and it does pretty well for itself. I really enjoy the card!

[@jodabreez100]

I’m always #TeamGreen but I have to jump ship for my girl Tatyova. So glad to see her piloted to her second win (and still undefeated) Commander VS video!

[@Buddha1245]

Game Time: 17:20 I really love them as personalities, but sometimes, I just want to get into the magic. Like, no disrespect, but 17 mins of discussion isn't for me.

[@alexanderhile6812]

Good thing you can just skip it

[@swdjr33]

Alexander Hile that’s what he did. He’s just making it easy for others, then explaining why so he doesn’t come off as hateful or disrespectful.

[@alexanderhile6812]

@@swdjr33 fair enough

[@Hey_Tk]

Same boat too much chatty Cathy style video.

[@oweneastmond4731]

Steven Dorr iu Mku I’m mkh mkhyog u

[@buddadragonmtg4848]

Hurray y'all are finally back now to watch the show. Always missing y'all during the off season.

[@MegaBengland]

I forgot how often you guys used to make Sunny references. The intro to this video warmed my heart.

[@jb20150225]

I don’t think Stephen is too happy about the Eagles now...

[@DeviltoGeorgia34]

Yeah, I don't think he'll be wearing the jersey tonight on the live episode.

[@JAWS9683]

Nope the whodat nation was in full effect and sent them packing!!! WHODAT!!!!!

[@jb20150225]

John Wheeler I don’t remember y’all sayin that last season 🤔🤔🤔 #Underdogs #2018Superbowl

[@JAWS9683]

@@jb20150225 this is true and i will say thanks for beating the patriots last year but this year with the superbowl being in atlanta, we are destined to play the patriots there. Snd hopefully we win with a score of 28-3.

[@jb20150225]

John Wheeler don’t worry man, I’ll be rooting for you guys vs the patriots.

[@TARDIS915]

Just got home from surgery. What a great relief for the day

[@lukekrohn6381]

I don't care how you guys do these but please do them forever...because I will watch forever

[@cyishida2747]

Was waiting for so long for this long one.

[@justinquenot2815]

Yaaaaaasssssssss!!!!! Back at it again with the green beast

[@ronmarshall1566]

Top 5 binge-watching episode! I know I rewatched it about 10 time🤘🤟

[@steverickard9768]

I have the hardest time getting through your intros to actually watch the game. I really wanted to watch this match up.

[@joeyclague4536]

YES, i have been waiting for Justin to play this commander since the dominaria pre-release. This is my favorite commander being played by my favorite personality #teamJustin

[@marcvanheerden9067]

fun and games, these guys just crack me up, love it

[@ashleyprior6712]

Didn't live the live version as much, but to be honest if the extra revenue helps keep the guys on air I'm all for it.

[@Ryan-so3il]

You dont know what you'll miss until its gone

[@msantos9780]

My boys! Welcome back

[@larsgossel7510]

literally was going to click the like button then stephen started to sing and i hesitated but ended up liking it.

[@JordanCirksena]

“On the next episode of which U/G commander will Jeremy run next..”

[@DanMarik]

Jordan Cirksena “followed by this weeks grave deck piloted by Justin Parnell”

[@ttuts9082]

@@DanMarik (with no one ever playing any graveyard hate)

[@kingofrunescapepking]

@@ttuts9082 and then turning Justin into the archenemy because he always plays graveyard decks and they're never prepared for it

[@adamheeley285]

Asa Muldrothat player: one, sort your graveyard into its permanent types. It makes searching and keeping traffic of the cards you want to play faster. Two: think about and organize what cards that you might want to play during other peoples turns and move them to the top of the piles. That way you wont piss of other players for having turns that take too long.

[@Kayrik]

Twitch interaction is what this series needed the least

[@kingfuzzy2]

What a relief

[@ronmarshall1566]

Binge-watching in the future

[@tsho6131]

Justin is the closest representation of me as a Commander player. Jon is tournament me. Jeremy is 13 year old me. Stephen is me after 7 beers. I believe that’s Johnny, Spike, Timmy and drunk Vorthos, which could be anything. Collectively, you’re an excellent representation of what Commander could and should be.

[@Rdiaz1234]

I've missed you guys haha

[@michael_gordy5661]

17:22 game begins

[@alberttsang1521]

At 2:02:00 Jeremy was supposed to draw the cards before he shuffled because boundless realms says to grab x lands period shuffle your library. Small gripe from a tatyova player tho.

[@lyndonray1010]

While sorting a friend's set, I misread Spore Frog as Spare Fog. It became funnier once we read it's ability.

[@awsumawstun]

I really want to watch this, but 3 hours is insane.

[@dimanarinull9122]

I'll make a summery for you - control + control + control + ..... = this game and the moment the last counterspell was cast the game was over with jeremy hasting moltani to kill justin then casting nexus and putting the blackblade on it to kill stephen even though he could've recasted nexus to win with Lab Maniac.

[@MilkyPrime]

Took me 3 days

[@Seavay]

You guys always get at least one and a half watches per video out of me because I always fall asleep the first time. I don't know why, maybe your voices are too soothing.

[@Slack-3R]

Jon, I hope you remember that the tokens have trample this time around. Haha :)

[@pur3music]

Why does everything have to be live now? just add extra commentary when we just want to see the game and interaction between the players....

[@johns832]

This... I really prefer watching my videos, as videos. If I want live streaming, I'll watch streams. Now they cant edit out stuff that will just drag down the game...

[@Small_Panda]

@@johns832 but they still did edit out stuff

[@johns832]

I see that they did a little. I am glad. But the comments from twitch being added in are annoying.

[@kyyraobayendel]

Twitch pays better than KZbin. That's why everyone is moving there and uploading video of whatever they do to KZbin after the fact.

[@johns832]

@@kyyraobayendel which sucks for us the KZbin viewers, as we get a poor quality experience of a livestream, without being live. I've made a few different comments on here about this, so I wont harp on it more. But I just hope I can still enjoy this show after the last 13+ seasons... wish starcirt games would focus on good content first, and the cash grab 2nd. They dont need the livestream revenue to keep their lights on.

[@robertmitchell8052]

The boys are back in town, the boys are back in townnnnn

[@cloaking764]

Timestamps can be found in twitch chat, nothing to see here. Video starts at 0:00

[@seankeane769]

I like how they inceptioned us at the end. better in the past but XD

[@corrosivecabal]

Back on the binge train

[@colinjerista2551]

Got to be honest I didn't have a favorite until I saw the eagles Jersey. I have a favorite now

[@mthlay15]

Wow, back when covid wasnt a thing. Miss this and I'm sure y'all do too.

[@Cryonicity]

Muldrotha was my prerelease promo! I've gotta vote for Valduk bc it beat my Muldrotha deck.

[@johns832]

Casting a spell, and asking if it is ok to the table, means you pass priority. It's kinda scummy to do that, then go back and respond to your own spell. I know it's "all in good fun" but still, not cool to do it multiple times a game.

[@geoffreychance9770]

Same with using Endless Sundial to get around the Valdut tokens being exiled. You have to respond to it immediately otherwise your opponents can let them get exiled if they also pass priority. The whole Mystical Tutor thing shouldn't have happened

[@chrisgarrett3395]

Basically John was being spiteful as the lone player at the table without blue.

[@Xefaos]

Has there been any sort of schedule of upcoming live streams? I haven't really looked that hard, but with fast 10 minute search I didn't find anything. On Twitch side there is events page that need updating from time to time if you want to use that. Anyways, thanks for the video though!

[@airkami]

I don't know about catching the next one life. I had to play this one at 1.75 x speed lol. Loved it though.

[@logancowheard3078]

*sees Cryptic Command* *smiles in Wes Wise*

[@seanhigginslim5501]

Guys, you do know the tokens of valduk get exiled at the begginjg of the next turns endstep right?

[@miyokohirosuke9164]

So Deed doesnt get the all treatment? because it says Each? Also the creature with the greaves wouldnt of died, as at the time the spell was cast it would find valid targets then resolve at the same time, so it cant target the big guy

[@55kingcrab]

yes your alive

[@mattdecker905]

@42:10 "Do You have to blow it to attack" -Justin Parnell- 2020

[@FirstnameLastname-ok1yz]

i think after Jeremy's genesis wave, he can chose to get the creature trigger before the tatyova trigger ( didn't matter though ) but he could have sacrificed the khalni heart expedition to shuffle before he played the land, then he would have one more chance at the nexus of fate since he had enough mana to play it :) ... But what really affected me was Stephen almost forgetting to put the counter for the commander casting after casting it for 8 :D And since we saw the nexus of fate probably should not have countered the the negate, keep the 13 mana to cast arixmethes to get the commander casting point !

[@zacharyjoy8724]

Honestly, the only reason Muldrotha would be called “boring” is because he/she/it (I don’t know, gimme a break) is the most “popular” Sultai commander on EDHREC. As a value engine, top notch. But *maybe* used too often? I don’t know, and have no room to judge; my favorite Simic commander is Aesi, after all. I absolutely love Tatyova, and if Aesi hadn’t replaced her, she’d still be my Simic Land/Ramp commander. Kumena is my favorite Simic *Tribal* commander, as I had fantastic luck with him back in the Ixalan days. Arixmethes is definitely cool, but I personally prefer him/it in the 99.

[@MegaBsterling]

Looks like Stephen's Decklist only has 98 cards in it? what are they missing?

[@Jessejohnson2695]

I could be mistaken but when “All is Dust” is played, wouldn’t all the colored lands be sacrificed as well?

[@francescogulisano2917]

Can't wait to see Jon flipping coins with the new Rakdos

[@ultiplayer1]

@2:15:38 I'm pretty sure Justin can respond to Jeremy enchanting his creature with "Imprisoned in the Moon". Can someone confirm?

[@Joebob31100]

If an Aura enters the battlefield and it wasn't cast, it enters the battlefield automatically attached to something. It doesn't target and there is no trigger to respond to. Some Zur players use it to get Pacifism on Hexproof creatures, and stuff like that.

[@blakeelawsonn]

Did Green quote the Bobby Bones show at 41:10?

[@Phat_Tokes]

Tbh all these commanders are great if built right but we all know the best Commander in the year of 2018 was no doubt Adeliz, the Cinder Wind the crazy things you can do with wizards is crazy especially in izzet.

[@ethanmcbride6811]

Damn Parnell had to go and call the eagles out like that

[@classicsidepart1477]

@ Jeremy Noell: Why not cast Heroic Intervention in response to Stephen drawing the Voidslime with Mindstone? Justin would have had to respond to the Intervention with his Counterspell, to which you had the Swan Song...

[@HarbingerOfDuh]

Forget it, Jake, it's Noell-town

[@danielburnell7409]

we need bearded Jeremy back!

[@SJR2301]

If you’re going to do it live do it how LRR does it and read out the subs and bits at the end of the stream so the gameplay isn’t interrupted but it was a good game

[@SCGCommander]

I like that idea. I'll bring it up to Director Kyle.

[@tatakpinoy2521]

no decklist for this episode ?

[@deckssays]

Clanks for the memory xD

[@Shadowstompa]

Match starts @ 17:20

[@BrowneePointz]

good game, let down ending.

[@SirCharlesOfKanto]

Are the decklists somewhere?

[@joshuabusch5538]

Maybe check the description 😑

[@Squiggy5687]

I just wanted to say thank you to Stephen Green. For being a very nice person to me and my friend when we got together meet him at Columbus. We both hope to be able to meet the rest of you sometime.

[@marcuspainter4854]

I probably won't be able to watch the show live, but I like the idea. Also, what better way to kick off season 14 than with a 3 hour video?! :)

[@MegaAreosmith]

We got close Stephen 😭😭

[@daltonroth5745]

His name is literally on screen the full hour. How do you possibly spell it wrong?

[@l-yisus696]

WHERE'S MY BOI, YARGLE?! He is without a doubt the best general of 2017.

[@YourPalRowan]

18

[@coreysierchio4650]

Yargle is Love Yargle is Life. Yargle don't mind a little time travel.

[@henryjones8636]

Why was Justin playing with his hand revealed?

[@BloodLegaZ]

3hrs long....LETS GO!!!

[@sandolsman]

Lol Stephens deck should be broken Arimethes + Pemnins Aura Arimethes + Freed from the Real

[@outbreakprime6246]

It feels so good to get either of these off.

[@sanjurojelze7431]

Crazy Tinfoil Hat Theory: Justin Parnell and Jonathan Suarez don't actually film in the same room as Stephen Green and Jeremy Noell. Any shot overhead is actually played by 4 different sets of hands.

[@goretoriumgaming8600]

Da double doink!!!

[@colthuhn2523]

Can anyone tell me what lands they are playing?

[@joeyclague4536]

Unstable

[@davidfields5375]

I don't think I could make it through a game with Stephen without flipping the table

[@shadowblade172]

David Fields sounds like you aren’t the table politics type of player

[@dimanarinull9122]

the longest controlathon I've ever bothered to watch through, and I still don't know how Jeremy got this Lab Maniac after getting wheeled 4 times... I really missed some spell retrieving it. also why not use Lay/Lore Weaver combo? and the retreat to coralhelm combo? is there a no combo policy?

[@bunnyhop1392]

what attacking player in sole possession of last place means?

[@Kestral287]

If three players have 1 point and one player has zero, if the first attack of the game is at the player in last place the attacker loses points. If multiple people have the least number of points this gets ignored.

[@bunnyhop1392]

​@@Kestral287 oh so its if the guy is last seasonwise? or only in that game?

[@jwych11]

Please don’t end the show 😢😂

[@petthepsycopath]

You know they should make a token for ascend with it just Jeremy looking at a mirror suddenly growing a beard

[@Oc3anManDota]

Doomsday Device. Thats the move

[@Migabyte747]

Figures Jeremy plays the same type of decks.

[@MutilatedBunny]

Muldrotha is my vote out of the 4 because it is the only Black card

[@joshuabraun3093]

Bring back Bearded jeremy!!!

[@nathanielkeller5366]

Yes bearded Jeremy is way less boring.... I cant stand him durdling the whole time then just winning at the end. He is always doing the same thing....

[@stevoyah]

Bearded jeremy embraces the real aggressive colors.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Loses his Beard goes back to playing Simic;P

[@123abcjackso]

Hey, steven gets to legitimately cast his lands!

[@seanmd6]

Can we see a Rith deck if possible?

[@davidhickey8613]

almost 2 hours into the video and no one has died yet.

[@brianokafor9748]

@starcitygames where is the deck list????

[@AJCowie]

www.starcitygames.com/articles/38198_2018-Favorite-Decks.html

[@TehTime]

Just a thought but I feel like they should add that you get an extra point for winning with an alternate win condition.

[@like17badgers]

umm, Yargle came out last year. I've got no idea what you guys are talking about for best new commanders. it isnt even close (also, Jhiora and Brudiclad are great, Okaun/Zndrsplt are cool, and all the PW commanders are strong and unique)

[@whocarez9195]

Do they use proxies. Im just curious?

[@calebosburn5109]

sometimes, but only with new cards

[@StarcraftGT500]

Where to get their game mat?

[@calebosburn5109]

Starcitygames (store)- having not been to the 'biggest mtg store', i can definately attest for this cool fact