Commander VS S5E9: Kynaios and Tiro vs Momir Vig vs Zur vs Isamaru

It's the Commander VS season finale, and that means it's time for some fan request fun! These decks range from one color to four, and that's only the beginning of the surprises!
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[@hisi420ent]

The 'Doge' art on each card is priceless. Well done.

[@n.henzler50]

hisi420ent Much damage. Very Voltron.

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) Hello everyone! We're here today with deck ideas submitted by all of you! As we tend to do with each end of season episode, we took suggestions from you, the fans, to use as our Commanders. The points race was really tight this season, so this one is for all the marbles.

[@zizthesin]

how does one submit a deck for possible future use?

[@keep7smiling]

Did Justin notice that his deck was missing the best color? black!

[@TheVermuz]

Star City Games Since planechase anthology came out it be fun to use the planechase cards and maybe use the legendary creatures in the decks as commanders.

[@watason7237]

Star City Games You guys should do a tier 1 commander game some time next season. Stax v Storm v Combo v Doomsday. That would be really cool :)

[@j_g_t6091]

+Watason 723 they did a few seasons ago. They played two or three games on camera because they went so fast

[@Destorer4444]

So I recently joined a magic group page on Facebook. I've been a fan of commander verses series since the beginning. And watching all you guys grow into better players while helping the community learn. I have shared your videos to this page in hoping the people will watch and we can continue this great series. So thank all of you guys for the amazing content can't wait to see what else is store. side note: Stephen green needs more punishment from John.

[@jacobdachauer4377]

I am one of those 4520 slightly disappointed people, but you know what?? I am happy enough to be a subscriber and get to watch these videos. Thank you as always! Looking forward to the next season.

[@BeybladeClips]

I always save your videos offline and really love all of them! I'll make sure to recommend it to all my friends. I tried ordering at scg way back and might order again just because of the videos you're creating. More power to you guys, you are the best!!

[@MrPinkpanzer]

I love watching Mr. Suarez do his thing until he wins. The move to try and get an extra point by saving Justin just shows he's looking at all the angles. Nice work, man. Definitely getting a gold playmat.

[@SMorgenstern73]

Stephen Green missing the one shot kill at 1:39:15. Equip Inquisitor's Flail, Attack Suarez, before damage, Stonehewer Strata Scythe into play attached to Stonehewer Giant. Suarez takes 46 damage.

[@kyojitakenouchi9706]

Keepflyin that's because Steven is bad at this game #teamparnell

[@mitchholden6686]

Also much much earlier around 46:00 in the game when he cast the first divine reckoning could have instead idealic tutored for Armored Ascension

[@appleapple1988]

Thank god somebody else said it.

[@leventedoleviczenyi1218]

Would love to see the other 4C generals powered up! Also please do partner commander episodes

[@Acraviotot]

Oh man those Doge alters really cracked me up. Good job Choi, and nice game guys.

[@gabbikrabbi10]

Just got an idea for a match! Battle of the precons, where we pit together the victors of the Commander preconstructed games. The winners I could find were Breya, Etherium Shaper (S5E6), Meren of Clan Nel Toth (2015 Special), Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath (2014 Special) and Derevi Empyrial Tactician (1v1 EDH 2013). We can finally figure out which is the best of them all!

[@NJBaars]

Alexander Gabriel If you go by the precons out-of-the-box, I can tell you, the difference in power level is staggering. You could use own brews though.

[@OBBOYS]

MTG Kaylesh if they used home brews, Derevi would dominate and would make the matches hard to watch. Meren and Breya would be competitive, however Obby would be way underpowered:(

[@DanRocal39]

i've watched all the commander vs videos and this was by far the best season since mcdarby left, great show great decks fewer mistakes and decent level of gameplay without dipping into broken and unfun things. grats

[@DoreoC]

Thanks so much for playing with Kynaios! :D

[@shawnperkins1338]

that was a interesting take on Zur. I loved this game.

[@frankieh]

I am literally 15 minutes in and I am in love with the Doge cards.

[@limeshredder]

Thank you so much Jeremy! Finally a good old fashioned simic deck!

[@skinbad1]

I gotta say it. The past 2 episodes have been the best in quite some time. Keep up the good work guys!!!! Oh and Justin, the opposite of yes is definitely no :P

[@skirracorvusjt]

thank you Stephen Green I'm now building isamaru!

[@ethansouza5457]

Great season guys, keep it up! Next season can you each do a tribal deck playing you're favorite tribe.

[@Mostimpressiveindeed]

Jon's deck this week is probably my favorite from this season.

[@ginganu1234]

Great season thanks for the content guys! would love to see more Jund commander decks Primarily, Kresh or Adun Oakenshield.

[@pirateshaman]

hey this is my fav part of the versus series , you should do this commander every week :D/ok sry the season is over i get it now, can;t wait for the next season too i would like to see more flavour fun decks like having decks that are all cards from a single plane , or decks that start from the character story for example Zur the Enchanter wanter to have eternal life so he isolated from the world in search of it , that kind of stuff

[@alexanderbernau3241]

Would love to see more games in the same vein as your horde special. That was really awesome.

[@sofer2230]

The doge pictures had me in stitches for five minutes

[@noahmorris8677]

Love you guys. Keep making great content. Long live Jonathan, lord of luxury.

[@Repaurcas]

Well that game would have gone totally differently if Jeremy would play a lovely card called bane of progress

[@DarkPikachuYTV]

I can’t remember does that get encouragements

[@TheReal_birbwizard]

@@DarkPikachuYTV artifacts and enchantments.

[@TundraWolfe]

Damn, the power level in this episode was way off the charts. I'm not sure if it's any higher than some of the other games but there were some absolutely insane combos going on here. These decks were brutal and amazing.

[@wizkida981015]

Now that partner commander actually exists (thought you guys totally invented it), I'd love to see an all partner commander vs. game next season using only the precon partners to see what combinations you guys think of.

[@ajayslife6604]

I'm so excited!!! I haven't watched it yet cause class is about to start!! You guys are amazing!!

[@werewolf8994]

I was really rooting for Stephen this Ep! but glad to see Jon come out ahead.

[@mikebaugus1408]

Dude ill buy a signed mat from you! ;)

[@OmnivorousTree]

Perkyx Congratulations

[@justryangeorge]

Perkyx congrats lucky person

[@melvinwessel]

Congratulations ^^

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) Make sure to send us a message on here so we can get your contact info to send you the prizes :)

[@SlayerSnow]

That infinite combo with Brago, Strionic Resonator, Sol ring and Venser that Jon didn't use :P

[@joshbaker9111]

Maybe he wanted to beat him fairly?

[@SventFulgur]

Josh Baker Technically it's still fair because it's within the rules of Magic but it's much less interactive

[@jacobdachauer4377]

They stay away from infinite combos in this, and I love watching so much more because they do not use infinite combos.

[@BobertJoe]

They were talking about it at the time and it was pretty clear that nobody at the table understood the interaction at all.

[@mitchholden6686]

Yep none of them understood the interaction

[@rolfkaniini3071]

I am currently building a Doge deck and I was delighted to find this video!

[@Dr0ctober]

wow what a season! love the show guys! next season could we see Justin play an Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch deck!

[@sjwarhammer4039]

Wow, seems like every season just flies by! It's a layup to put the fifteen partners into the Random Theme next season and I hope you guys do it.

[@warrantofficerschrodinger5624]

may I recommend Alara commanders? Sharuum or Sen Triplets, Rafiq or Jenara, Sedris or Thraximundar, Mayael or Uril, Kresh or Karrthus ?

[@alexkeyser7322]

Warrant Officer Schrödinger I agree, i'd love to see sedris

[@RaijinTheThunder]

yessss I want to see someone assemble the Uril-tron!

[@limeshredder]

Warrant Officer Schrödinger that would be amazing. Needs to happen

[@7MukuroRealm]

Problem is, a lot of those have such a high threshold of power/aren't fun that the game would be really short or numbingly painful to sit through.

[@thuggishcone1392]

Uril is super super overpowered if it gets going. I dont reccomend it for these guys. (Saying this as a Uril Commander player)

[@Terrestrialist]

I'd like to see more Tribal stuff (if possible) :) Love the content! Keep the fun stuff coming!

[@jstrobel5857]

Hey all! I would love to see one of you play somewhat of a voltron attacking theme with the commander Vorosh, the Hunter! I'm sure Jeremy would love to play yet another blue, black, and green deck ;) I can see the Villainous Wealth terrors coming back again lol

[@NotetoSelf9292]

Lol, I love you guys and thank you for all your hard work and fun games, but this was soooo bad. How was the Zur player not hated out from the get-go? That was hard to watch. Still, I can't wait for more videos.

[@moehsenpai8855]

I would love to see all theme deck. Like the chairs and Doge decks. Would be pretty cool to see everyone work to build very specific decks.

[@__4016]

Really good season and a heck of a finish to it. Idea for a future theme. Taking 2 random of the partner generals and attempting to make decks with whatever happens with the 2 generals seems fun.

[@apanapane]

Love the channel, though this was not the most interesting of matches. But hig quality production none the less, and the banter was cheerful as always. Did however appreciate seing Doge in play!

[@higglywiggly2857]

Another amazing season guys keep up the good work. For a future commander one of you guys should use Animar, Soul of Elements.

[@lostnationtheatermasterele5591]

I don't blame Gonti, I blame Stephen for not focusing on one player at a time with Doge. =P In all seriousness though, fantastic season. Keep it up!

[@jasonc3249]

Just starting the video but Zur and Momir are two of my favorite commanders :D Very happy lol

[@Seraphael]

I would really love to see the thought process behind some whacky decks like the chairs deck or the left handed deck. Some kind of behind the scenes deck tech.

[@Kinson007]

Hey guys at Commander VS, I've been toying around with the notion of making a Superfriends deck for a long time, and with the release of Commander 2016, seeing Atraxa makes me want to use her as my General. I'd be very interested to see how an Atraxa Superfriends deck plays out, or even 4 Superfriend decks with different Generals to see the variety of options available (instead of just the proliferate at EoT).

[@justryangeorge]

damn that was intense. Stephen Verde, don't worry, next check i should be buying my green mat and the new proliferate general. :) #chestsache

[@jordanclemens5834]

Please do a Heaven vs Hell episode! Either tribal Angels or tribal Demons with one of you playing Gisela, Blade of Goldnight. She is my first and current commander and I would love to see her in that command zone. And check out the combo between her and Ajani Steadfast. Kaalia of the Vast would be a great commander too. Keep up the good work guys!

[@dennisbradford7216]

Strionic Resonator actually does go infinite with Brago and a Sol Ring. Strionic Resonator copies Brago's ability while it's on the stack, the copy resolves, you bounce Resonator + Sol Ring, and then copy the original ability again, rinse and repeat. That original ability won't ever do anything, because the objects it targeted get lost, but you do get to copy it as many times as you want.

[@CodenameFuyuki]

at 1:51:30 ish. Yes Stephen that does work. strionic resonator plus any 2 mana rock (aka Sol ring that he has on the battlefield) goes infinite. trigger goes on stack, copy trigger, blink and untap Sol ring, venser, and resonator with copy of trigger, get venser etb and untap Sol ring and resonator. the original trigger is still on the stack, allowing you to copy it again with resonator. repeat until the board is gone. and it doesn't KILL everyone, so Jon wins with no loss of points. although I'm assuming that you all missed that, so more magic was had. which I'm ok with. but yes, Jon should win at the moment you let him untap with brago and resonator.

[@TheAlexanderkl]

That Brago trigger around 1:50 would have just bounced everyone's land off the table and exiled every non-land permanent via stronic resonator, mana rocks, venser, and grasp of fate. NBD.

[@lirangorgon]

Here is something I want to see: each of you playes a commander that is actually a pair of characters, like Pia and Kiran, Tibor and Lumia, Mina and Denn etc.

[@n.henzler50]

Liran Yaniv and one player who puts way too much into making Brothers Yamazaki happen in EDH just for the bragging rights.

[@starlingnorthcott1681]

Justin's venser's journal made me think that you should do a book themed deck

[@revengedealer]

Another fantastic season :D

[@theshadowftw3433]

Powered up 4C commander decks would be pretty neat next season. Great season as always! #cheststache

[@charlesstover6913]

Justin, if your general gets Grasp of Fate'd, you can move it to the Command Zone and still get it back when Grasp of Fate leaves the battlefield. Recall that the Command Zone is a replacement effect for spells, such that Grasp of Fate, when targeting generals, now reads: "When Grasp of Fate enters the battlefield, for each opponent, move up to one target nonland permanent that player controls to the Command Zone until Grasp of Fate leaves the battlefield." Thus, when Grasp of Fate is removed from the battlefield, your general returns from the Command Zone to the battlefield, so long as you have no cast it from the Command Zone since it was placed there. This is in contrast to spells like Detention Sphere, Oblivion Ring, and Journey to Nowhere, which, after the replacement effect, still say to only return cards that have been exiled to the battlefield, as opposed to those moved to the Command Zone.

[@Indy94445]

What episode did Stephen Green manipulate Justin into a play on his turn, only to immediately betray him the turn after? If I remember correctly Justin was on tilt and basically had blinders on for Stephen for the rest of the game.

[@DCAMM720]

Lol I like how if you look at Isamaru's EDHREC page there was a spike in activity right after this video came out.

[@FunnyGuysFTW]

I haven't seen you guys play omnath, locus of mana (my favorite commander.) Love to see you play her.

[@Fury64]

That zur deck looks amazing I might have to try building it.

[@Brandonyoungblood]

Hi guys, love the show. My favorite recent episode was the horde. Have you ever done a double headed giant episode? I think it would be fun to see who each pair would choose as commanders and how they would play together. Any thoughts?

[@Milohenry13]

Nice Suarez! Way to step into the winner's circle!

[@malkavian6275]

The starcitygames commander games feels depressing like watching the office but you know it's real

[@Smythe417]

I think it would be interesting if in addition to color identity for deck construction rule that you also use the commanders cmc as a restriction. for example Stephen greens isamura cmc=1 so all non land cards in the deck must have a cmc=1. I believe this could be both fun and challenging for deck construction and play

[@alexandermacdonald8475]

Something a bit out there I'd like to see, Spellshaper EDH. maybe not Jaya as we've seen that. But from Alexi, Greel, Magata (urgh), Jolrael, Latulla. having generals that really do have abilities that feel iconic to their colours... Justin on Greel haha

[@thu4167]

Great editing

[@ultiplayer1]

@1:49:12 Jon tapped Dust Bowl and Island to cast Venser. Then untapped the lands. Then put Venser back into play.

[@locus0fmana]

Hey how did John Astral Slide 2 creatures out with Decree of Silence?Astral slide only lets you flicker one creature per trigger right?

[@andrejbanit373]

Great game guys ;)

[@drakas_w5206]

Next season would love to see the chaos deck again slightly different though with Vial Smasher the Fierce as the commander. Let the randomness commence!

[@Mythyk612]

Should do an episode where every card in the deck has a specific letter in it. Like every card has an "m" or an "a". Also agree with planechase episode that many have mentioned.

[@SephirothASTAROTH]

#TeamGreen TeamDOGE Goddammit stephen, i wanted you to lay a deck like this so damn long, then i saw the duration of the video and knew that the #GreenNation took a lost in this one.

[@tejsaini2955]

even if you bounce the fog creature, wouldnt the etb effect of fogging still prevent the damage that turn?

[@theluckiestt-shirt3596]

Subbed, liked, and now commented. The TRIFECTA!

[@limeshredder]

The Luckiest T-Shirt illuminati confirmed

[@lilnani5]

Let's talk about how Jon had an infinite combo on the table and slow rolled

[@rossanderson6859]

I would like to see a game where each player makes a terrible, troll, or just plain weird deck. Then those decks are distributed randomly to the players. The key here would be fun interactions.

[@Kestral287]

That's basically the Randomonium weeks?

[@rossanderson6859]

I don't know what that is.

[@Kestral287]

Twice a season they have episodes labeled "???? vs ???? vs ???? vs ????". When that happens, each of them makes two decks and they get distributed at random. Very often they're silly concepts like the infamous Chair Deck.

[@TheSquirrelbeast]

You could try Commander Clash in the MtGoldfish channel. I watch both, this series is more competitive (point system and no budget restrictions), while at the other channel it's more casual and laidback (usually sticking to 20 ticks mtgo budget restrictions)

[@Kestral287]

Until somebody on Clash slams a Stasis or goes infinite. :P Don't get me wrong, I love both, but the Clash decks have a massive variance.

[@TheDarkHumour]

saw that zur was being played, no surprise at all it won. broke af

[@DustyDunies]

Love the show

[@TheBunnyDestroyer]

HOARD!! DO IT! Either the werewolf hoard or the vanilla zombie hoard. It's super fun and You guys should do it.

[@Kestral287]

Check the Halloween episode

[@ShakaWakala]

Suarez missed a really cool play in his 1:52:21 turn. He could have attacked with Brago, and with the ability trigger on the stack, he could have used sol ring + strionic resonator to copy Brago's ability. With the copy, he could have targeted strionic resonator, Brago, and Venser. When it resolves, both Brago and Sol Ring come in untapped, and Venser bounces any targetable permanent back to Justin, Jeremy or Stephen hands. The original Brago trigger is still on the stack, so you do the same thing again. And again. And again... Until the opponents have no non-targetable permanents in play, including lands. It's cool because even though usually is a concede for the enemies, he could choose the order in which they die (he is just going to attack over the next turns in whatever order he wants), so he has control of where the points go. There really isn't anything the others can do... They don't have permanents... Brago+2 mana rock+strionic resonator is very cool!

[@rdbaron102]

I thought last weeks video was great, this one was amazing! {Stands up and claps}

[@MestHoop]

No Sidisi for Justin = no justice! Still #TeamParnell #ParnellBlue #BlackManaMatters #WHEREISTHEBLACKMANAJUSTIN though

[@MestHoop]

Man, this season was sweet though. Great ending to a great season! Can't wait for season 6! Back to rehab for 3 or 4 weeks :(

[@aaronorbik2375]

Jeremy, that Terastadon. You could have saved them all.

[@emppusipilainen7187]

Ok thx i just did not notice the "you may spend mana as though it were mana of Any type to cast it" part of the card

[@Level99Chickens]

You guys ever consider launching a separate channel for these? I love em, but there's no way in hell I'm subscribing with all the other videos SCG puts out.

[@Zendrig]

You can subscribe to the "Commander vs series" playlist. Search for it and click "+".

[@ylekaikyle]

Great game!

[@matttownsend8406]

I know it’s an old video but strionic resonator does work with brago. You exile mana rocks and strionic resonator with the copied trigger and then when they come back untapped copy the trigger again, infinite combo. Also there was comment about Jon cheating, cycling is not casting a spell so he was fine, the only spell he cast was Venser.

[@clelvis225]

all doges go to heaven LOL

[@jerzysikorski4846]

Final Frontier ! Greetings guys !

[@roberthouse7904]

Not sure if someone mentioned it already but councils judgement if everyone picks a different target, since they are all tied then they all get exiled

[@BadGamers2024]

the meletis lovers 28:50 seem like a decent general after seeing it play

[@Masaru_kun]

:12 in and im already laughing and hitting that thumbs up

[@reymarkable]

that gonti was luxious!

[@DrCliche]

Great show lads, makes me thankful in general ye stay away from control heavy decks!

[@boktor666]

Hey guys, really enjoyed watching this match! I was just rewatching this, but I noticed Jeremy is missing a bunch of experience counter triggers at 1:21:45, when he ended his turn, such missed value man :(

[@EvanPlaysPc]

Would justin have a bunch more health off of vensers journal ,or did i miss something?

[@marciosilva7562]

Best commander versus in my opinion.

[@bAd12cheZ]

play a Riku deck, but all creatures need the clone ability the point of the deck is to copy your Faerie Artisans as many times as possible and a mirror gallery will assure you having multiple creatures for each creature an opponent plays necessary cards: Unexpected Results, Tempt with Reflections, Permeating Mass, Mirror Mockery, and Saheeli's Artistry

[@whiled_payne4324]

i think there should be a secret santa special, where the four get assigned another one randomly and create a deck that that person would like. so no duds (stephen green im looking at you)

[@alecvigil4144]

anyone notice john suarez won the game at around 1:55:00? brago plus rocks plus strionic resonator is infinite flicker and with venser he just bounces all opponents permanents. c-c-c-combooooo

[@Ophicel]

Did Jon decide not to blink with Brago around 1:56:00 or did he just forget?