Commander VS S6E3: Jarad vs Selvala vs Daretti vs Mishra [MTG]

It's getting competitive in Commander Land! What happens when four of the most-watched 100-card players on the planet stop being polite and start being real? Let's just say that parental discretion is advised!
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[@118bone]

Oh man the plot twist at the end

[@bruxonn12]

Idea for next time: Take a Scrabble game and put one tile of every letter in a bag except Q, X and Y. Each player takes 5 tiles out of the bag, and is only allowed to play cards that start with the mentioned letter, basic lands excluded.

[@hnjahnjah]

Damn this Justin Parnell! That sneaky infinite combo! D: At least he was honorable enough to let Stephen in 2nd place.

[@Dark-Pikachu1]

No Jeremy was more because he had nothing

[@luckyalli6392]

BAH GAWD, IT'S PARNELL! PARNELL WITH THE COMBO OUTTA NOWHERE!

[@BarbeChenue]

Excellent! You guys should do this more often, I find those to be the most entertaining videos. Piloting competitively and having showmanship at the same time is hard, kudos!

[@obeycelestia]

Don't care if it's not perfect, I love this stuff. I hope we get more! :D

[@obeycelestia]

Shoutouts to the Jeremy and Justin for researching deck choices (big ups to Razzilox and the other from the cEDH community who helped!)

[@luckyskin09]

priest of titania also gives one green for each elf in play (noell had some at start of game)

[@darkhyena85]

All slivers match! You got queen, legion, overlord and hivelord...would essentially equate to a hilarious group hug match

[@5splatman5]

knees weak, arms Darettii, There's vomit on Daretti already, Jon's Daretti. He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm Daretti To drop bombs. But he keeps on Daretti What he wrote down, The whole crowd goes Daretti, He opens his mouth, But Daretti won't come out. He's chokin', how? Everybody's joking now, The life's run out, Turn's up, over, pow!

[@duo317]

Thank you for Jared. I've been waiting for this one for so long!!!!

[@MrMlLKTRUCK]

At 56:11 Nev's Disc should not have been destroyed when he activated it. He has darksteel forge on the field!

[@justinkp]

It was caught and fixed.

[@HarryBuddhaPalm]

So many mistakes in EVERY game.

[@guilhermesilveira7770]

I really wanted to see the video, i really think you guys should do one of these per season, would be coll IMHO

[@B1gLupu]

As a person who plays a fair amount of Competitive EDH, the most interesting games happen when there are 2 fast combo deck mixed with a slower combo deck with one or more "staxy" decks. Mashing together 4 slow decks or 4 fast decks won't lead to any great games worth writing home about. so the variance is key here. Our subreddit, r/CompetitiveEDH is hosting it's Fifth "cEDH Open" Tournament(signup and info on the front page), and I personally would really be interested in seeing you play the same decks as in the final table, with a short breakdown how your games differed even with the same 400 cards. Last time it was brawl between Ruric Thar, Sidisi Brood Tyrant, Karador and Jeleva, and it was definitely worth seeing. Ruric Thar was a big upset, battling its way to the final four, and we had to re-evaluate our weaknesses after that. Sorry for any possible typos I might have missed, English doesn't come natural to me.

[@anosnd]

Heads up: Necrotic Ooze does not inherit the "Bury it when it's power is 7 or greater" text from Phyrexian Devourer. It only gains 'activated' abilities of creatures so you don't have to do all that responding to trigger nonsense. :) In any case, great game! When Parnell showed Survival and Ooze combo at the beginning i was like, "Ho boy. If noone has graveyard hate, i sure know how this one is ending." PSA: never let Phyrexian Devourer sit in the gy!

[@Tubbaflubba]

I actually thoroughly enjoyed this episode!

[@jacobdachauer4377]

ty for the video. I am really glad you don't do this often, but it is nice once and a while.

[@darkzero3]

Thanks for uploading this on my Birthday! I always enjoy y'all's videos!

[@adamtraas8344]

nev disk should stay out 59:30

[@justinkp]

Was caught and fixed

[@adamtraas8344]

Justin Postlewaite - nice havent had a chance to finish watching. i should have trusted you all.

[@MrBenCurley]

adam traas, I'm so glad jon pointed that out during the game

[@justinkp]

adam traas Well, I wouldn't necessarily say you should trust them - there were other mistakes that weren't caught - but playing with a different deck each week I understand and don't get mad like some people seem to. But it's usually good to watch the whole video before making these comments as they do catch some (Suarez caught this and Stephen mistakenly drawing and extra card).

[@MrBenCurley]

Adam traas just made a comment while watching the video. He wasn't being disrespectful. He just saw an error and mentioned it.Justin Postlewaite​

[@justryangeorge]

22:00 Justin you have a colorless and two green floating. you forgot to count all elves on the battlefield.

[@KieranDunleavy]

I'm glad you guys did this to demonstrate 'competitive EDH', but you summed it up appropriately with lamentations that it wasn't fun for most players. Jeremy also put a finger on the most important affect of this play style when he pointed out that banter and conversation were drastically reduced. That is the primary reason I watch you guys, so I hope this 'experiment' is now over.

[@TheAlexanderkl]

Justin had a win on T3. Bayou + Sol Ring play survival. One colorless floating. Tap scorned villager for G, titania for GGG (Jeremy's elves count too!), and OGTomb for B. Use 4 green to Cycle mind slicer to triskelion, triskelion to phyrexian devourer, devourer to necrotic ooze, ooze to whatever you want (preferably dryad arbor to save CMC), Use the Black and colorless you have left to dance of the dead ooze. Attempt to win. If you have 120 CMC left in your deck, GG. if not, you kill 2 people and leave the last guy low.

[@bryceknoch413]

I'm such a huge fan of the show, I got to meet Stephan and Justin at the Richmond open this past weekend for my birthday and I totally felt like a fan-boy

[@noahvessar3318]

Honestly this is probably my favorite theme. Every time I watch themes that are super restrictive or Justin plays an extremely underpowered deck it feels like there's a lot of salt. This felt like everyone did their best.

[@dbzdragon7155]

Stephen Green you are a man after my own heart. I am so happy to see Mishra played. Keep up the good work.

[@dbzdragon7155]

50:40 No Stephen why you had the combo.

[@dbzdragon7155]

thanks Jon

[@21526]

very nice game did not see the random win coming, when I saw that you guys were doing a competitive match I looked at the video length and new that there was gonna be a winter orb or mld stall. also the dinosaur animations on the side were funny

[@phatdistraction]

so at 56:13 nevinyrrals disk is supposed to stay in play because it's indescribable from darksteel forge so it's a repeatable 1 mana board wipe

[@misdablugaming7137]

56:30 Stephen, Nevinyrral's disk would not go to the graveyard, it is a destroy effect and it is currently indestructible thanks to Darksteel forge.

[@misdablugaming7137]

Lol didn't know someone else would call it out, my bad

[@kelm102]

When you said it would be competitive commander, I didn't realize how similar it would be to what I experience at FNMs. I guess it finally put it into perspective how competitive my decks usually are. I have to deal with Mana Drains, an Armageddon, Medomai with Time Walk effects, Rest in Peace / Helm of Obedience, etc. Thanks for the videos. Jeremy, I love playing Elfball, and I've tried just about each strategy you can come up with. How did you like playing Selvala? I've heard she's decent, and I'm thinking of turning my Karametra into GW Selvala at first, then trying out mono-G. Playing GB Rhys the Exiled right now, although it should probably be Jarad.

[@arthurbellon9446]

Just loved this episode, and I hope you do more of competitive EDH for us, please! But guys watchout for Sthephen when he's manipulating artifacts! He commited a mistake that no one noticed hahahah! He drew a card as he played his artifact land when Vealken Archmage was on the field, but the Archmage's abbility only triggers when you cast an artifact spell. Artifact lands aren't spells.

[@francescogulisano2917]

If there is one thing you guys should have learned by now it is that Justin is most dangerous when he seems to have nothing

[@ashnuker44]

An interesting video would be all of you guys playing the same commander but with different deck set ups. I can't give any examples off the top of my head, but it would be neat to see all of your personal differences in deckbuilding. As per usual well done and keep up the good work.

[@midn8588]

Phyrexian Devourer was ruled to have the "bury" ability to be ONLY a triggered ability. So you can make ooze as large as you want, and you won't have to worry about it killing itself with the trigger.

[@Nitecrawlr16]

Ya know, I know that commander is a casual format, but I really enjoyed this video as a person who straddles the line between competitive and casual magic. I think it would be nice if maybe once a season they have like one competitive match. Its interesting to see all the sneaky combos and hard grinds.

[@kenneths_]

I wish there was a way to sub just to this series :)

[@swiftcubone1199]

You guys should do something where you guys take your favorite from all the commander sets. Like 1 of you does Meren, another does Nekusar, another Fryealise (spelling?), or whatever. Just like using the basic commander decks. I think it would be a kind of cool comparison between the sets.

[@godwrath1744]

I really appreciate the fact that you guys wanna bring everytime new fresh contents to your videos. You are awesome!

[@akutaatsu8675]

YEAHHH JUSTIN WITH THE RKO OUTTA NOWHERE, Good job justin you got it, deserve that W so hard.

[@halophilicnc6473]

Out of curiosity, what mulligan rule do you use ordinarily? My primary group uses the Draw 10, keep the 7 best and it's cut down on mulligan time significantly.

[@rynedavis390]

An interesting idea you should try doing sometime is everyone building a deck based around relentless rats. The card allows a deck to have any number of them in it and it gets +1/+1 for each other card named relentless rats on the field so you would be buffing each other as you play more. You each could build different decks based on the idea and just have a set number of relentless rats required in each deck. It would be interesting to see how different your decks our based on who is was building it with a set amount of the cards being the same.

[@thomaswlange]

17:00 is when I realized they weren't messing around

[@matthugenberg8869]

Omg that diretti list is an almost carbon copy of someone's list in my playgroup! He scrapped it after the new Mulligan rule though. And yes, that deck was still no fun to play against. Haha. This is my favorite thing to watch. :)

[@maxedney4254]

Love the competitive game, I like that it's not all the time like you guys say, great video.

[@mattiabenedetti3859]

I REALLY loved this episode. Keep up the good work. Jonathan, you are absolutely the best

[@qarsiseer]

Mistake detected around the 30 minute mark, drawing a card with Vedalken Archmage by playing Vault of Whispers? Casting lands confirmed.

[@codymontgomery2465]

best video of commander vs ever you guys should be more competitive more often

[@Duranous1]

The director is awesome and Suarez is dastardly. Wildfire, so back breaking, love it.

[@Bcdeano]

Thank you guys for making this. cEDH is always fun to watch. Pretty sure someone must have pointed it out, but Disc doesn't blow up due to forge. Also, wondering why Justin didn't grab Reanimate with his one land open. he could have gotten baleful force and drowned the other guys in card advantage, regardless of no lands. Plus 7/7.... Edit: just watched the end. That's why. Fantastic game

[@michaelatbarnett]

Hey guys. Always love the content, but can't say I loved this one. Some people are big cEDH fans, and that's fair, but I'm hoping this is more sparse than a common thing. It just feels wrong in a format designed to be casual and personal; at least to me. You guys certainly made it as fun as possible, but hoping we get back to some more casual play next week. If you happen to see this, Jeremy, I'm curious if you've ended up building Yidris as a deck yet? I know cascade is your thing, so hopefully if you have we can see him from you one day.

[@Zarundar]

Really cool to see some competitive CMDR. It's not why most ppl play the format, but it can still be fun and intricate!

[@clelvis225]

37:51 I would have reached across the table, ripped up Suarez's Winter Orb then slap him in the face and challenge him to a duel

[@jonathansuarez3259]

clelvis225 Challenge Accepted!

[@BarbeChenue]

Winter Orb deserves more love. Stax-nation sends their regards!

[@snowcoveredplainswalker442]

If it's an open challenge, I'll bring my Jaya Ballard oppressive control list, should be fun.

[@KoiPondDreams]

Mono Red stax is SO much fun to play.. with. not against lol

[@hyperam4594]

anybody else cringe when suarez only upped daretti by one

[@diercioferreira4377]

Dont forget Justin not counting Jeremy's elfs when tapping priestess of titania.

[@keithgoduti5853]

I cringed when Deretti didn't die from the Might of Old Krosa pumped elf and then the Aetherium Sculptor

[@vazhkatsi]

fixed about 5 minutes in

[@brocpage4204]

he catches it around 26:30

[@alexweil7296]

yeah..

[@jonathanmarshall280]

You guys should all use a two color angel. One of you can use Bruna, the light of alabaster ; one could use sigarda (whichever one you want) ; one of the boros angels (also whichever you choose) ; and one could use Selena, dark angel.

[@sandman423]

This was fun, but I felt bad for Jeremy because he just had to watch. Don't believe me just watch. Keep up the great work guys. This was fun. I would like to see Selvala again.

[@highaerials36]

This was great. Would love this style once per season, cool to see the group play in a different way.

[@Darks290]

This was as fun to watch as it is to play against the stacks player.....

[@keep7smiling]

Priest of Titania adds a mana for each elf ON THE BATTLEFIELD. So it does also count jeremys elfs!

[@andrewp979]

Love seeing competitive. Not so mentally taxing when you're a bit more familiar with the decks. Good job

[@TheReal_birbwizard]

more planar chaos and fun police decks by John and Stephen lol

[@phatbastard0alkaline]

OMG Suarez is playing stax

[@kingfuzzy2]

My favorite in cedh ( :

[@Iansanity1995]

I was happy to see the darksteel forge, disk combo. I use that combo a lot in my commander decks

[@CorianderPlays]

I liked the video a lot. But one thing I don't understand is why justin was waiting for Stephen to tap the disk. Couldn't he just do necromancy and the combo at literally any time and even if Stephen tapped it activate the devourers ability in response and then triskelion them to death anyway?

[@xionale6202]

Can you all play Sliver decks? it would be kind of fun having buffs from each player.

[@stie3228]

You guys should try commanders from Legends. Some of the legendaries in that set is surprisingly unqiue and versatile.

[@YourLocalSN1P3R]

they should do competitive edh more. it's more entertaining than just casual games.

[@qaws1106]

Really? There's only two ways it can go: either it ends by turn 3 and they have a video that is about 10 minutes, or it grinds for an hour where most of the guys do nothing while 1 guy plays solitaire. Neither of those sound remotely interesting to see every week.

[@Lecapitandeoutroespa]

Yeah nothing happened for like 95% of this video. I'd rather watch a game of magic where each player has a decent chance of winning.

[@pyro5845]

I agree Jaden, the more competitive decks are really interesting. To the people claiming nothing really happened, or it would go too quickly I say this. If someone combo's out turn 3, have them explain the combo then everyone shuffles up and tries again. If the game goes long and there is a lot of quiet thinking at the table, maybe in post have the guys pause the video and give a commentary as to the lines they are considering at the time?

[@YourLocalSN1P3R]

still I find it more fun to play three or four games rather than one long drawn out game. I'm at a hookah lounge playing derevi, breya, tasigur, and my own Arcum Dagsson. best games I've had in forever.

[@kelm102]

Personally, I felt like there were things going on throughout the whole time. Everyone was trying to establish a board state or come up with a game plan. It might not have been apparent, or come out right at that time, but I would like to think there was forethought going on throughout.

[@Aenima2011]

I think jeremy could have won on the third turn. Play Phyrexian Soulgorger draw a card, untap forrest, add 8 mana with selvala, play green suns for 4 searching Temur Sabertooth and bounce the soulgorger and replay it over and over and draw his deck.

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) I wouldn't have access to the amount of mana needed to bounce it over and over. There wasn't a way to untap Selvala at that point.

[@rasovidovic]

Yeah i was so happy to see Jeremy untap on t3 with Selvala not dying . He had a lot of lines of play. He could have played Groundbreaker and drawn a card. Float 6. Play Soulgorger, draw a card. Crop rotation for cradle or Nykthos. Float 6 again. And then depending on what he had drawn tutored with green sun for Quirion Ranger or Great Oak Guardian and keep going. But instead play elf and go ;( Sadly Jeremy's list doesn't play Regal Force to really go deep.

[@daleway5429]

Yeah I play a friendly version of selvala but I used to play the competitive version. It's a shame he didn't see the play with concordant crossroads in the deck he wins......

[@Aenima2011]

Yeah good point, my fault. But Radovan Vidović had a good point down their :D

[@Tumasch]

You are such a filthy combo player. Your playgroup must really love you.

[@GB-hi3op]

Can someone clarify, the 0 mana ability used at the end says put A +x/+x counter not put x +1+1 counters. Has this been faq'd or something?

[@BellBOYd128]

that was absolutely great. Justin!!!!!!!!

[@inferiusrex6416]

What dinosaur movie are u guys watching in silence. It looks like a must see.

[@TheMrBigShot96]

I think it would be cool to see you guys play your personal decks on here

[@GreyeHazel]

Vault of whispers wouldn't have drawn Stephen a card. Vedalken Archmage says you draw when you cast an artifact spell. I guess he's just used to "casting" his lands.

[@Thurokiir1]

Awesome games! Lot of cool tech I haven't seen!

[@ankhi3585]

Was that "One million years BC" playing in silence?

[@Nathar45]

I enjoy these competitive style games. I like the other ones you do, but occasionally including this style of game is fun to me.

[@Nathar45]

...and for the next competitive game (make a note): Mizzix!

[@db3dbms]

Has Phyrexian Devourer been changed to be X +1/+1 counters? Or is it still +X/+X counters? Because Triskellion only cares about +1/+1 counters. Edit: It has been changed to X +1/+1 counters. So that does work.

[@BellBOYd128]

is the movie shown in Silence, "The Freaks"?

[@TaliesonTegwas]

Why did John wheel away his top? did I miss something there?

[@eternalphobia2]

Watching Justin go off in slow motion was absolutely hilarious

[@MithDragon]

I was shocked not to see Leovold.

[@GeorgeCilley]

I know you said that these guys have never played these decks before, but Nev's Disk has been around for like 100 years and it's never said sacrifice.

[@Guyu]

Please do more of these!

[@simonandersen7942]

34:46 Shouldn't Daretti go to 1, and the to dead on Stephens attack?

[@c0ym0nty]

nicely done! i've been wondering about that Mana Crypt

[@h2_]

You guys usually do a "returning champions"/"redemption attempt" type theme where you reuse an old deck of your own. How about an "I-can-do-that-better" theme deck, where you rebuild/modify a deck that an opponent got 3rd-4th place with in the past.

[@MestHoop]

Yes it's up! Looking forward to watching it after this terrible report T_T Especially when #TeamParnell is playing Jarad!! I guess #BlackManaMatters after all! Show them the power of swamps Justin! #ParnellBlue Edit: Man, this was a great game though. I definitely agree that it would get samey after a while, but more competitive videos are definitely fun every now and then. Director did a great job livening up the video during searches as well!

[@MestHoop]

Awww man... And here I was cheering at the Priest of Titania (one of my favorite cards from back in high school) and Justin completely misses the mana from all the elves on Jeremy's side of the board :(

[@Grotedeboer]

around 30 min daretti should have gone from 4 to 1 instead of 2?

[@bryanclem4819]

how could you miss the disk going into the graveyard with darksteel forge in play

[@HugSeal42]

Jon really needs to learn about loyalty. Tickiing up 1 when it is a +2 ability. And taking away 2 when a 3/3 attacks him, leving him at 2. Which causes daretti to survive rather than die when stephen attacks. Mistakes happens, I realize that. But there are so many beginner mistakes that sway the game considerably and that takes away a lot of the enjoyment from watching it :S

[@MrCoresyn]

Would love to see some Tariel action if you guys get a chance

[@lookoutitsadragon]

The disk didn't matter, you can win with the ooze even if disk is untapped, since you can always respond to the disk by activating the ability again.

[@TheNotshauna]

Man Stephen missing that Mycosynth Lattice play each turn completely crushed my spirits. He had the win multiple times and just didn't use it.

[@heltoupee]

30:05 - Despite how much he wants to, Stephen cannot cast lands, and therefore does not draw off of Vedalken Archmage.

[@ShakaWakala]

Loved this game! Great ending too!

[@slick_rickgaming1102]

Hopefully we see more planechase shenanigans in the coming weeks

[@mmogeek1]

'Grind them into no-fun powder' made me laugh quite a bit ;p

[@cullenkelley4828]

Umm at 56:16 he had a combo: Disk is not destroyed when forge is out just letting ya know.....

[@Spheal777]

unless I'm mistaken mono red has had a victory with zada hedron grinder in the battle for zendikar episode

[@700NitroXpress]

Need to do a week with tribal decks, so far I think they've only done dragon tribal, back in Dragons of Tarkir.

[@deathgrip0]

The next time they do something like this, I'd really enjoy it if they did a banned commander video using one of the five banned commanders. It would be a harder video to do, but it would be similar to the way this one worked.

[@themuffindragon]

I think this was cool to see, maybe once a season or once every two seasons would be a good number. For me the problem with competitive EDH is that most decks have lots of tutors and are trying to be as consistent as possible which is sort of against the spirit of the format imo. Seeing a deck played once is fine because you dont feel that redundancy

[@wngillel3]

Is there anyway to remove the glare?