Super Metroid/ALttP Combo Randomizer by Andy and Oatsngoats in

[@CraigKostelecky]

So I did the math. At 2:01:23 Andy decides not to check the big chest. At 2:04:11, he discovered the boots were necessary. It then took until 3:01:35 to find the boots. So if it would have taken 30 seconds to get the boots the first time, he would have saved 57 minutes and 54 seconds to get a new finish time of 2 hours, 18 minutes, and 28 seconds.

[@SwitcherooU]

It was a bad decision to not check in a randomizer showcase like this, and Oats knew it when he said "Glad you saved those frames..."

[@sedivh0]

It would've been a colossal loss for us as that one hour between the moments was full of entertainment.

[@hongmeiling8219]

Ahem. 22:52

[@gerald216]

​@hongmeiling8219 As a randomizer player I can safely say it's too true. I've had this exact thing happen in link to the past, ff4, and kh2 lol. That last item is always in a place you either thought you got everything or just don't want to get

[@FortunaDraken]

I love how the tracker clicked the boots icon a bunch of times as if to say WE HAVE THEM happily. A very good troll seed and a great run even despite that.

[@BRoyce69]

"good thing you seved those frames" after a 30 minute+ search is probs the most scarcastic clapback ive heard from this gdqx XD full savage, loved the run guys it was great

[@Miketopus.]

(Samus picks up Book of Mudora) "...The hell am I supposed to do with this?"

[@TheSavageBountyHunter]

hahhaha

[@pendularnuncius2618]

samus can't actually read, she picks up the book and just shrugs

[@shinysamurott613]

@@pendularnuncius2618 She can only read bird language

[@SilentHillJames]

@@shinysamurott613 So she only can read tweets?

[@OneTrueRat]

@@SilentHillJames That was good. Fuckin hell my sides hurt

[@GhoullyXX]

I love the irony of the Ice Rod being submerged in lava.

[@xdarrenx]

Also finding hi jump boots at prolly the highest mapped item location in the game. And not sure if ironic, but a donation by "the fallen one" after moldorm was lulz

[@diceLibrarian]

And the Fire Rod near water

[@hector-m-carrillo]

@@xdarrenx first one is ironic I'd expect high jump boots someplace high, means someone used them, so not ironic, just poetically unfortunate

[@Limayde]

These two have a really good dynamic between them.

[@FantymSyreuth]

i was gonna comment something very similar to that, haha. It'd be neat to see them both stream together again.

[@xvstar_]

You have decent videos, thanks. Not a lot of subs for what you make.

[@AdrianWoodUK]

2:01:06 - Andy talks about how messing up movement in Super Metroid can make you look like the "biggest idiot". In 40 seconds time, everyone will be giving him a round of applause. No-one knows that, in those 40 seconds, he's made a decision which will turn out to have cost them almost an hour by the end of the run. Man, I feel sorry for him; that was actually the right call when going for an out-and-out PB/WR attempt (of _course_ you pick the strategy that saves a few frames and hope RNG goes your way, that's standard), but will wind up being one of the go-to examples of when taking a safer strategy at the cost of a few frames makes more sense in an exhibition setting like this. Still, this is a great run to watch, the boots saga made for a lot of tense entertainment, and I'm going to be following both of them on Twitch!

[@pasu2k]

Having to 'waste' an hour looking for the boots was actually nice in showing off all the chest locations in ALTTP, so could be useful if any watcher decides to do the challenge themselves one day :)

[@perinia]

"So did you want to be a Metroid speedrunner or a Link to the Past speedrunner?" "Yes."

[@energysynergymatrix8145]

It's not both. it's YES!

[@SuzieB23]

Perinia r/InclusiveOr

[@bogusbounty5172]

Perinia oo

[@bogusbounty5172]

Spike333s has oplol

[@peterholich3649]

@@energysynergymatrix8145 guy opp

[@Lucidplays34]

Find someone who looks at you the way Andy looks at Oats

[@ssgoten8]

I feel like it goes both ways in this scenario

[@clintdavis1452]

I literally came here to say this lmao

[@RickySteels]

They’re so cramped, when they look at each other it’s like a foot away. So intimate lmao

[@LilZombieFooFoo]

Find somebody who laughs at your jokes the way Andy laughs at Oats's. Oats just slaughters him for three straight hours.

[@kaijusenseii]

Damn you beat me to this comment by 5 years lmfao

[@samtoshner8002]

This run is so great to watch the second time, listening to their commentary, knowing how screwed they are without the boots

[@Platanov]

Now I'm imagining a buddy cop movie starring Link and Samus.

[@PoisonInc]

This should absolutely be in Smash Ultimates story mode.

[@danielgehring7437]

"Processing denotes the victim suffered hemmorhagic shock before being entirely exsanguinated. What do you make of the situation, partner?" "Chy-ah!"

[@MikuChanAnimations]

@@danielgehring7437 YES

[@hoodiesticks]

I imagine Samus acting like Gamora in Guardians of the Galaxy, while Link and Navi would be Groot and Rocket.

[@austins9795]

Link: “HA, HYAH, HEY-YA!” Samus: “The baby.”

[@NotAFakeName1]

I get 2 hours in and see Andy entering Ganons tower and there's an hour and ten minutes left on the run and I think "man something is about to go horribly wrong"

[@noobandfriends2420]

1:35:55 "All we need is the hook shot and we can beat the game." *sees we're not even half way through" -.-

[@undeadnightorc]

I'm impressed with Andy's extensive knowledge of SM and SM randos.

[@20DX00]

Highlight for this run: Super Boots/A Boots to the Past, this speedrun exists solely for the donation puns (Boots crisis starts at 2:03:47)

[@MaximumDraculaX]

And not resolved until almost an hour later. Amazing.

[@agenticex]

To add to the comment chain for any future viewers. The moment it all went wrong: 1:52:05 Karma then took the wheel for a good hour.

[@darkraiking680]

This is still hilarious to watch. The boots crisis.

[@swordsmancs]

46:18 “cuz you don’t wanna miss a location that have the thing you get stuck behind” Two hours later: skips boots

[@imei2006]

I’ve loved how much foreshadowing is in this run

[@Hirogawa]

Great concept. Great games. Great runners. Great speedrun. This exactly what an INCREDIBLE randomizer run should be.

[@GuenniKurti]

I love the chemistry between the two runners. Makes it so much more fun to watch.

[@PerfectDarkly]

This entire run could've been a whole hour faster, but instead it turned into karmic schadenfreude of the highest caliber. He passed up those stupid boots literally _minutes_ before running into the one thing he needed them for.

[@BigMcLargeChungus]

Pass by the chest(big one at the top) at 2:01:00 Needs the boots at 2:04:08

[@caesaria]

It's not really accurate to say he should have just taken that one quick sideline to that one chest, because it could have just as easily not been in that chest and he could have lost time instead. It could have been in any of all of the chests he checked; you have to allow time for diversions to many of those.

[@ReySilverskin]

The moment he passed up the Moon Pearl chest, I knew he was going to need whatever was in it.

[@WhatupitsTetra]

Only a year and a half late to say it, but hey We can't blame Andy too much afterall, missing the boots let us kill the animals. Gotta save those frames!

[@CheesieTubes]

Andy: Enters Ganon's Tower at about 2 hours without boots Me: "But there's like an hour left; how would tha-" Key: Is on the torch Welp

[@ruggedlemmings9163]

gg ez no re

[@GaussiArson]

@@fullmetal7984 unfortunately, saving frames caused the loss of even more frames

[@gabbyty7144]

i find 2:52:47 to be so hilarious in the middle of the whole boots crisis, andy going to the item screen and just deflating because he suddenly realizes no cane of somaria

[@gozob]

thanks I was trying to figure out what was going on lol

[@RavenheartIndustries]

2:17:28 I'm living for oats' sarcasm "I'm still looking for your stupid boots..." "well that opens the door for, nothing actually!"

[@lintecassidy206]

This run is also known as "mom says it's my turn on the emulator" any%

[@derekhackley3989]

more like "mom says it's my turn on the emulator" 100%

[@Alexander-nd5de]

@qaydrin Oh thats cool to know. but owning original game lets you to emulate anything you want so, have you neigh sayers‼‼

[@Jrez]

I'd just call it "mom says it's my turn%"

[@1313eable]

Except that it is not on an emulator. They are playing on a real, genuine SNES.

[@Hezkezl]

@@1313eable using an SNES cartridge that lets them play an SD card where you copy ROM files to. It's not an emulator, but the game itself isn't real so it's essentially the same thing in the end.

[@oguzhangungor9117]

When they found the boots and Andy said "to save....the frames" I laughed so hard that I actually cried :D

[@ssgoten8]

This is one of the most legendary runs ever. Back again to watch it. Love their chemistry, it's so entertaining!

[@DreadZep]

Amazing how an old married couple plays games like this.

[@JohnJohnson-yi6jg]

wow this really looks like a game I'd have played in a dream as a kid, surreal

[@RyanRex]

These two are just as entertaining as Andy and Patty. Just wholesome folks having fun doing the thing they love and sharing it with the world. More please.

[@larhyperhair]

Alternate universe where the hero of time helps samus save the future by helping her find things she lost in the past, and in return she helps him save his timeline.

[@dingdongdirtbag]

Sounds like a plot similar to Endgame.

[@BlueMageDaisen]

All these people making boots jokes are just soleless

[@carpetclimber4027]

Watch your tongue. You need some heeling.

[@Nidrog]

That joke was about as bad as some wrestling heels good sir!

[@DarkTenka]

Nice one ... I got a real kick out of it.

[@nokkusuu]

these comments are laced with good puns. i'd add to it, but my tongue is tied

[@diceLibrarian]

Time to call on Nike, the victory goddess so that I can shoehorn TWO puns!

[@2WaterGuns]

Knowing the total time ahead of watching this allows you to feel the tension right before they realize they missed something important.

[@Dillo64]

The found the Ice Rod in a room of lava, and the Fire Rod in a room full of water.....

[@rashkavar]

It's called safe storage. You've seen what happened to the cave the ice rod was stored in for Vanilla LTTP, haven't you?

[@linkeffect82]

I LOVE the irony

[@DDadams0]

This is by far the most entertaining run I've ever seen from a GDQ event. Oats and Andy have an amazing comedic chemistry. I wish we could get another with them.

[@flatwoods_]

me too!

[@solidsnack4139]

When I first got introduced to randomizers, I wasn't that interested. But now I think they are really cool and interesting and this one is one of the most impressive. Great run, guys!

[@bradlywaldron4785]

Lol at 3:46. "Please Link... You must... Save the kingdom... Here's 20 dollars... I leave the kingdom in your hands."

[@svbguy]

Love all the speculation about the pedestal hype toward the end. Whenever it was long dead due to the red cane being on library which required the boots. So much fun it all is though to watch and love the combo rando.

[@woolybear]

These guys crack me up ... very entertaining run, and as always, great team behind the scene making this awesome event happen year after year!

[@henriknobinder7395]

I come back to this run once or twice every year, and every time, I find myself shouting, "ARE THOSE TWO *STILL* LOOKING FOR THOSE DAMN BOOTS?!"

[@QuocNguyen-bo1df]

"Don't you guys have boots?"

[@raddfoxx8179]

Love the dynamic between these guys and although I'm sure it was painful to get basically every single item BUT those dang boots, it made for the perfect bad luck entertainment. Now go take a nap tired boiz.

[@ScottIrving746]

Avoiding a chest to save a few frames in a RANDOMIZER is...just oof.

[@benvictim]

especially when each dungeon has 1 major item in it.

[@MattRose30000]

Yeah that's a gamble maybe worth in a race, but definitely not safe for marathon. Although it is a low probability for the big key to be boots or cane locked. 6/27 I believe?

[@wupme]

Yeah its a completely stupid move, especially since HE should know so much better. In a normal run i get it, but not in a randomizer. The few frames he might save don't matter there.

[@ali_p_q7920]

One does not simply try to save frames in a randomizer marathon.

[@EmberTheShark]

i mean they still finished under estimate, so its not a huge deal ^^ more run to watch

[@claxan]

Man...finding the boots was his "sole" purpose... At least at the end he chucks some converse-ation into this speedrun.

[@volsfootball638]

“I bet that guy TAS could”😂😂😂

[@CalebTibster]

@@scottrauch1261 He never seems to be on any leaderboards, though. Wonder why that is.

[@exetone]

@@CalebTibster ive heard rumours that he uses "tools" or something. Im not sure what that means but he might be cheating? Or just using a controller with macros or something

[@bradreinier3792]

Turned it into 100% run just for the kicks

[@skynes]

I enjoyed this run infinitely more because of how trolly the seed was, the puns of donators, and the banter between Andy and Oatsngoats.

[@Kyle0073able]

The reaction by Andy seeing the GT big key on the pillar was priceless...I laughed so hard.

[@darkraiking680]

“The Boots are going to be here, I have faith.” Technically you got the geographical location down, just not the right dimension.

[@trceb]

This duo is low-key some of the funniest commentary I’ve seen in speed running. Wish we could have heard the audience laughing.

[@redpyre]

Seeing Samus and Link collect each others items is so strange. It's like something I would have dreamt up when I was 11.

[@whitemageserenia]

@2:41:09 perfect timing XD "Here's 20$" as a red rupee (20-rupee) falls from the heavens xD

[@BlueLily342]

This is probably my favorite speed run ever the chemistry between the two runners and the combination of the game makes it something I come back too often

[@Manzanahh]

these guys are one of the more funnier deadpan duos

[@sarysa]

SMZ in a nutshell. *Runner:* I have a 17/22 chance of everything going well. *_One hour later..._*

[@spacehunternebulanm7003]

These guys are like professional Game Grumps.

[@swift_sam]

This run was a lot of fun, despite the long search for the boots.

[@Stitastic]

two games, one of which I am very good at, the other I am decent at. amalgamated into something that I'm not sure should exist

[@Max-tq5fs]

very charismatic players, great run

[@Aldenfenris]

"If we decide 'we should skip this' it will probably be a good item" self fulfilled prophecy

[@helloofthebeach]

I can't believe nobody went with "Bootsngoots"

[@michaelzborowskyii4668]

Good one

[@Ringbearer79]

10:00 the foreshadowing....

[@MultiWicht]

Ringbearer79 yes! The expectation of early-ish boots when seeing the cane in library. And than the GT troll. Perfect.

[@ruggedlemmings9163]

@@michelvanderlinden8363 The sad part is that Andy is very possibly the best LTTP Randomizer player in the circuit. The fact that he's only one of like, 3 people that can pull off the "hover" trick is testament to this. There's a few other VERY great LTTP Randomizer players that are in the LTTP Randomizer tournaments...but Andy is always a large favorite. That he'd miss those boots really is an actual shame. :P

[@Wakeofchaos25]

And 22:56

[@scottrauch1261]

@@ruggedlemmings9163 everybody makes mistakes, and sometimes those mistakes lead to crazy fun hijinks. . . For everyone but andy.

[@FFXfever]

This is a cool as hell hack. Imagine being able to play both game simultaneously. That will be super sick.

[@Thorn773]

Man, this run sure had Andy seeing RED ...I'll show myself out

[@pastek957]

They go along so well, it's even more fun to watch than each individal speedrunner

[@stephblackcat]

I wonder how fun it would be if they tied missiles to arrows, power-bombs to zelda-bombs and the healthbars to eachother. :P

[@xcynicalreasonsx]

Andy and oats both seem like genuine good guys. I like this.

[@mattparsons946]

Ok, I’m going to actually mark my stupid calendar tonight so I stop missing these by... like... days. Can’t wait to watch this; thanks so much for posting these, GDQ!

[@kkadz]

I think that i watch this once every 2 months. This group is hilarious.

[@housebrosgaming]

This took me many nights to watch, but it was so worth it. Very entertaining, nice job peeps

[@killerkueen]

Im sad there isn't any more Andy + Oatsngoats content. They are such a dynamic duo. I know nothing about speed running but I could watch these guys and their chemistry all day.

[@deathrider365]

55:25realls shows how chill these guys are

[@bldem4ster103]

55:20 Literally burst out in laughter in this moment.

[@TBLIVIN]

Best run I've seen in a while. I'll have to keep my eye out for these guys from now on

[@Juliett-A]

I love the SM/ALttP randomizer. Seeing it speedrun is even crazier. Keep up the hard work you guys! :)

[@lucasm.thomas5976]

Absolutely love the SM/ALTTP Combo Randomizer - have watched several runs and races of it. A race at a future GDQ event would be hype!

[@kurikihiraga7201]

I love patty, "Where's your hover God now!?!" 2:49:39

[@soulcollector_sr388]

I love this! 2 of my favorite games ever & randomized. This is the best!

[@steveblock3882]

these two have a come a long way in terms of being comfortable with themselves infront of a crowd since 2017.

[@Harpy-with-Legs]

This is probably the coolest speed run I’ve ever seen

[@Kaoss134]

Kelpsey sittin' back there just chillin'

[@knightshousegames]

They're like the speedrun version of Conan O'Brian and Andy Richter.

[@profile1251]

Those secret levels in Super Metroid almost looked like Zelda III

[@GenderlessFurry_They-Them]

It's the "Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell" of video games

[@frozenaorta]

2:04:10 Me: "Well, that sucks. Guess all they need to do is just to find those boots, though. Shouldn't take too long." *checks video length...hour and a half left...* Me: "Hahaha!"

[@Knighti86]

Those two runners got such an amazing synergie.. its even more entertaing to listen to the commentary of both then watching the game.. :D

[@Bylga]

Andy playing Super Metroid vs Oatsngoats playing a Link to the past race.

[@RespectThePep]

37:37 “I didn’t need to grab those but they looked so shiny” *grabs 10 arrows* “did those also look shiny?” i love both of these runners and their chemistry with each other

[@sebastiansimon7557]

I really expected Andy to find Grapple Beam, opening up Shaktool and finding boots there.

[@ThAlEdison]

He got the gauntlet, mushroom, and shovel fairly early. I guess it's a speed thing, but he could've checked the witches house, Zora's domain, and the flute spot.

[@Stony2103]

Witch hut and flute spot are quite out-of-the-way locations, both with just one item. Most rando players delay them until they are sure there has to be something (because they ran out of options). Flute spot can usually be combined with Ol' Stumpy and Cave 45 (the cave to the lower left of entrance to Ol' Stumpy), which makes it seen more regularly. However, due to Andy not finding mirror before near finish, it just wasn't worth it I guess. Witch's hut has the disadvantage that you can do a small glitch, where you can abuse the bat giving you half magic with your mushroom, which makes some runners only wanna do hut after magic bat. Zora's Domain, however, is a preference thing. Most rando players agree on not going there early due to it being so out of the way (even for four items, counting those in fairy fountain). The general consensus is that you should only go there if you're either a. out of options, or b. able to check more stuff on the way (e.g. by swimming to Hobo -> taking the warp point or by mirroring from catfish).

[@fourswords77]

@@Milktube Well what is it then

[@Stony2103]

@@Milktube Then that decision was made very recently, because every rando-runner I've seen (Sakura/Andy/ the commentating guys of the speed tournaments) still refers to it as that.

[@WriggleNB]

I come back to this run every so often, since I love anything that's a co-op randomizer, even more so if it's a crossworld rando.

[@TitanMorsche]

I love their communication. For soneone who doesnt run or watch runs it sounds like a different csgo. Super missles on xbox, gravity on A long.

[@BarbeqdBrwniez]

Man this is great, I'd love to see a Super Metroid // Castlevania SotN randomizer, the TRUE Metroidvania!

[@Shmandalf]

Really great run! Liked the runners a lot and the commentary was great! Looking forward to seeing you guys next year.

[@neoanimefreak_7606]

Interesting thing, if there were a Super Metroid/Metroid Fusion combo, by not saving the animals at the end of Super Metroid, you doom yourself in Fusion.

[@gamesdonequick]

Runner introduction starts at 0:10. Run starts at 0:25.

[@patrickhanlon932]

and they finally find the boots at 3:01:30

[@bigdumpy1986]

They never introduced the couch haha

[@orsonzedd]

what is the seed?

[@thealmanancy9020]

now I wanna play metroid prime 2 and pick up items for wind waker

[@thatnerdcalledzanni3957]

I would really love to see this randomizer with 100% of the items for both games at a GDQ. Seems like would be long and insane, but the good type of good and insane run.

[@BigBoct]

2:04:11 that happening, with this audience...the single most PERFECT "rando gonna rando" moment in history.