Tana and Sidar Pump Spells an Tokens vs Athreos, Niv Mizzet, Damia

[@EliPye35]

Sweet deck. With your love of Boros I'm surprised we haven't seen more Boros wedge and shard decks: Mardu / Naya / Jesaki. Many more Boros & Bros synergies and styles to explore.

[@CommanderReplay]

Yeah Ive played surprisingly little Mardu and Naya. I am currently working on a Jeskai sunforger list. I think part of it is that I'm not great at building 3 color decks...too many options, hard to focus in on the things I really want. My deck building has improved pretty dramatically over the past year, so I hope to visit Naya a bunch more in 2019.

[@Zenith8924]

I really enjoyed your Tana/Sidar deck! Would you happen to have a deck list?

[@CommanderReplay]

Ouch, I will try to look for that one. Theres a chance it may be lost to time...Ill see what i can do.

[@Zenith8924]

@@CommanderReplay No problem if you can't find it :) I just started building mine so I came across your video. You gave me some ideas already though so thanks.

[@suhasmuthineni8153]

Wonder where they got that Shadowborn Apostle Deck. :)

[@CommanderReplay]

Where?!

[@Bear7747]

Yeah, the deck is from the command zone. But the deck sucks. All you need to do to shut the whole deck down is to kill one apostle before they tutor, or pay 3 life one time when they sacrifice them. The shadowborn apostles deck will then proceed to doing absolutely nothing while playing draw go and hoping to draw their next shadowborn apostle, for the next 3 or so turns.

[@cabal.]

Apostles decks are very old, and the athreos version is the most used in edh i believe.

[@CommanderReplay]

Ohhhh I see. There is probably a way to make them work, which is with a crap ton of card draw. But I don't usually see people running enough, so like you said kill 1 and the whole thing falls apart.

[@emdub9679]

This reminds me of the Tana/Bruse Tarl deck I mentioned, currently building it in paper.

[@RavebirdRock]

The reason the list i gave you had so many pump spells instead of cards like parallel lives or equipment like swords was to take advantage of Tanas trample, and Sidars psuedo unblockable. Tana is really good with equips and stuff when you pair her with Ravos, but sidar lets you play a mind game of "what do they have". Your list would probably be better with ravos or bruse

[@SuperKamiGuru5]

Honestly his list and love of equipment in general would make Tana/Bruse a perfect combination for him.

[@Lazarusgraves]

I had this very same idea in paper, except I had Bruse Tarl instead of Sidar to give Tana double strike for more tokens, and also I had it as an enchantress deck to pump up Tana, along with the enchantments that help tokens like intangible virtue, aura shards, and glare of subdual. It wasn't good so I scrapped it and made a regular enchantress with the Commander 2019 enchantment deck instead

[@lancer4224130]

Awesome!!!! Great close game. Nailbiter!

[@CommanderReplay]

Thanks! I wanted to put the dramatic music in at the end, but it was getting late and I had to go into work early this morning sad face. Fun game though!

[@yamael14]

Are you gonna play Meren or Titania?

[@fenixmeaney6170]

I never thought of adding pump spells All I had was mirror changeling

[@balefulstrix9610]

I ran that and craterhoof behemoth

[@RosieAndLowKi]

I've always been interested in Tana in a naya shell but instead of using bruse or sidar, use akiri. Just a nice voltron shell which will protect both commanders and make tokens to fight against edict affects. Like a weird mix between rith and uril

[@CommanderReplay]

Ohh nice that sounds like a sweet plan. I'm gonna write that one down for the future, if I have time ill see if I can play it.

[@RosieAndLowKi]

@@CommanderReplay I'm also glad you mentioned the cmc of the commanders being the same. The command zone said the same thing when they first came out. It can be a bit clunky

[@TheGamechair]

Really interested to see this deck list once you are done tinkering

[@CommanderReplay]

Not sure if Ill have time to to revisit. Ill post it when I get home from work. I think equipments in place of the pump spells, and more removal, should get you to a pretty good place. And maybe ascetism

[@thegoldgenji4834]

Question for you guys, can you have a partner commander by itself, or do you need both to play?

[@cloaking764]

You could just play one... There is just hardly ever a reason to only play one since you can usually find another commander with a similar or more focused effect in that color pairing

[@CommanderReplay]

Yes you are allowed to do that, but as others point out there just so much benefit in having a second body and more colors to work with. Makes mana bases a bit harder, especially 4 color. But yes you could just use 1 partner if you wanted to.

[@Menosh]

@@CommanderReplay If I'm not mistaken, some color pairings have multiple partners in it as well. If you wanted, you could just play partners with matching colors.

[@jjcc8379]

@@Menosh Yep, Boros partners are a thing for instance :) Moustachio man and Rope ninja

[@hughjass5494]

If you really want to play just one, it's still worth it to build the deck as you would have with just the one, then take the worst nonland card out of the 99, and choose literally any partner to sit in the zone anyway - even if the deck can't cast it - merely because a 98 card deck is (slightly) better than a 99 card deck. Or, put another way, 'Partner X' is strictly worse than 'Partner X + Partner Y'. I can't think of a single compelling reason to run just one partner.

[@admanios]

I feel like you could have gotten more use out of Purphoros. This is the kind of deck that would thrive on his second ability, since Kondo effectively gives your small creatures unblockable, and you could probably have taken out any of the opponents with a few pumps. But I know that it's difficult sometimes to remember that Purphoros even HAS a second ability...

[@CommanderReplay]

I did glance at it at one point. Just went back and looked, could have killed Damia on turn 9 if we activated it 3 times. Blah.

[@JMT2K]

I made a similar deck but made Bruse Tarl the partner in place of sidar and ive enjoyed that interaction more

[@Zawhomafu]

Would love to see the new niv mizzet in action. Never been interested in the color pair but he seems very interesting

[@CommanderReplay]

Will try to work it in when I can.

[@theblaqknight]

I run this deck in paper and just go all in on finding boots or some other hexproof effect, then pump spells for the win. I only ever ran it with some friends so not sure how it would do at the lgs but it's a good deck. Anyways, great video.

[@CommanderReplay]

Yeah some hexproof would have helped out a ton in this one. It could be solid with some work. Maybe not the best deck ever, but very reasonable, especially if you can dodge the removal.

[@SuperKamiGuru5]

I have a Sidar/Tana deck that so far has done very well. If you're interested I can share it!

[@CommanderReplay]

Sure post it up :) My list needs work.

[@rvteam]

Yeah dude I would be interested in seeing it also

[@SuperKamiGuru5]

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/army-of-the-minis/?cb=1542744521 :)

[@SuperKamiGuru5]

@@CommanderReplay Another user recommended having Bruse instead of Sidar and I would have to agree that you would probably like him more.

[@hughjass5494]

@@SuperKamiGuru5 Bruse is for being explosive, Sidar is for consistency; they serve vastly different functions. I prefer Sidar, but I leaned in to the small size of the creatures with my build (Ensnaring Bridge, Dusk//Dawn, Meekstone, Citywide Bust, etc). The "Voltrana" strat is probably way better with Bruse, but in that case, Ishai is a way better partner for Bruse than Tana is. That's why I took pains to avoid making a Tana voltron deck; It's an entirely different strat than tokens. Still running Huatli, Might of the Masses, Craterhoof, and (soon) Sublime Archangel, though. Some things just bring too much value.

[@balefulstrix9610]

Aye, partners! Are you considering your big dudes with lifelink deck?

[@CommanderReplay]

I really want to. That seems like a real ME deck. Probably wont have time until the new year, but I do have some real big plans for 2019.

[@balefulstrix9610]

@@CommanderReplay well i look forward to seeing what you've got

[@themoviewatcher]

Still waiting for that red &/or white legendary with damage can't be prevented...that'd be awesome

[@martinpowell2748]

I like running blinding angel in this deck and other combat damage affects.

[@CommanderReplay]

That would have been very helpful right here. Id like to revist Samut at some point for Naya combat stuff, lots of potential there.

[@martinpowell2748]

@@CommanderReplay I also like caustic Wasps and dawning Purist for getting rid of enchantments or artifacts when they hit opponent

[@martinpowell2748]

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/naya-small-2/?cb=1542809789 this is the deck made on mtgo with them it gone very well for me

[@jordanppepper2280]

Sublime Archangel could do a lot of work in this deck.

[@CommanderReplay]

Ooo yeah that could be interesting. Will need to check that one out.

[@BloodyScythe666]

more of this please :O

[@CommanderReplay]

Hmmm we'll see. This was not one of my favorite decks. Just didnt feel cohesive.

[@viperion_nz]

Heya, I'm building a Tana deck at the moment as well but I'm using Ravos as the other partner - you still get access to white, but you add black and another anthem effect in the Command Zone is always good. You do lose the quasi-unblockable (flying or reach aren't that rare) from Sidar, but Ravos is pretty good for this sort of deck. What do you think?

[@Devin-oh7gr]

Viperion_NZ tymna the weaver same colors curves out offers card advantage and has a cEDH option if you want to go that route

[@tee918]

I love the FTV 20 gilded lotus

[@CommanderReplay]

It caught me off guard, I didn't realize those were on MTGO. Does look really nice though.

[@rvteam]

Also dude... please don't take offence But you are saying chasm wrong... it should be pronouced "kaz-em"... you can google it Still love the video... although I was getting triggered a little bit haha Much love

[@CommanderReplay]

I was worried about that! Words hard for Commander replay. I thought about clipping in the dictionary.com voice, but it was getting pretty late by the time I finished editing.

[@yamael14]

I've yet to see Assemble the legion do anything in a game of Magic...

[@CommanderReplay]

it really needs a long time to be effective. So disappointing. If its 4 mana, its probably very solid. Or if they started making these Boros enchantments trigger at the beginning of combat, because you can easily get more combats. It is reasonable at making sure you have blockers, but it never really wins the game on its own. Its great a bunch of creature board wipes where everything gets slowed down.

[@rorykitchen2727]

People should play glacial chasm more, it's pretty insane.

[@CommanderReplay]

Indeed, and they should also play insult injury to counter that glacial chasm. Its obviously best in a lands matters deck, but still in the later turns just laying it down for a turn or 2 until your ready to win can be really good. Works for gitrog pretty well.

[@melissamayernik2258]

Valium might of the masses and sigil of valor should be in there

[@MetalSnakeBoogy]

I'd rather play Bruce as my partner. Double Strike and Life Link on a token generator is a good thing.

[@bigblue2075]

In response to your poll on Patreon about Naya: tappedout.net/mtg-decks/naya-sun-forge/?cb=1542738044

[@CommanderReplay]

Sweet looking deck. Gruul Charm and Naya Charm add a lot of really nice utility to handle different situations. Right now it looks like Jeskai is going to win the poll, so I'm gonna have to dig in and see what I come up with for that, but Id like to visit a Naya sunforger list at some point. I too would go the Samut route, just such a good Naya commander.

[@CommanderReplay]

Oh also I wanted to make sure you were aware the somewhat recent rule change where the split cards are equal to their combined mana cost. So you wouldn't be able to sunforger the Response half of Response/Resurgence, and same would be true for prepare to fight.

[@bigblue2075]

@@CommanderReplay yeah, I knew about the ruling. Those split cards offer good options later in the game.

[@CommanderReplay]

Cool just wanted to make sure. Yeah they do offer nice utility. Ive toyed with running Response Resurgence at times. But I realize its uncommon that I would need to kill an attacker blocker at 5 or less. The thing you probably need to kill is a seedborn muse which isn't going to get anywhere near combat. The first strike on resurgence is very interesting, as it becomes so much harder for opponents to block profitably.

[@thisisgettingdum]

tappedout.net/mtg-decks/this-is-the-turn-that-never-ends-1/ You've seen how good extra combats are and I've pushed this deck list a couple of times. No one sees it coming.

[@ms6548]

I know how I’m saying chasm now to tilt my English major friends

[@CommanderReplay]

Sorry about that. I actually just don't know how to say that word. I knew that I was probably saying it wrong and it was going to the dictionary.com pronunciation but ran out of time last night.

[@ms6548]

never change

[@Eryomis]

*scoff* You fool, I don't lose to Damia, I AM THE DAMIA!

[@CommanderReplay]

Ponders, what do you do in the Damia mirror match?

[@Eryomis]

@@CommanderReplay [cannot compute] Please rephrase your question. But now that I think about it, I haven't played a Damia mirror match yet.

[@regular_ian]

chasm...

[@CommanderReplay]

Words hard.