Commencal META AM 29 2021 Suspension REVIEW vs 2020

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Trail POV

Trail POV

Күн бұрын

A mountain bike review of the second most requested bike on this channel: The Commencal Meta AM 29. This detailed analysis also compared the differences and similaries of the 2021 vs the previous 2020 version. Which one should you buy?
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Topics include:
anti-rise
anti-squat
leverage ratio
wheel path
chain growth
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@wolfranger1682
@wolfranger1682 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Yeah I have been thinking about how this Suspension performs, You should do the Grim Donut from Pink Bike that would be interested
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
The Grim is truly bonkers
@andrewrivera4029
@andrewrivera4029 3 жыл бұрын
I love tons of data I can’t understand, it’s like eating blindfolded! Lol
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting simile
@iankennethbicar9830
@iankennethbicar9830 3 жыл бұрын
lol I can actually realte to this. Now im pretty much full from watching almost all of the videos
@michaelsawatzky6052
@michaelsawatzky6052 3 жыл бұрын
This is the exact video I was looking for and low behold you just posted it. Amazing!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet 🤘
@kryptik8860
@kryptik8860 3 жыл бұрын
This has quickly become one of my favorite channels. It's super refreshing to see someone taking a detailed and objective look at things rather than just riding the hype train and relying on clickbait/hyperbolous reviews. Would you consider taking a look at niner's rip 9 rdo? Thanks for the awesome content! Cheers :)
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. It might be a bit before I do a video, but I have looked at the Niner over on Patreon if you're interested.
@kryptik8860
@kryptik8860 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV thanks for the timely response - I'll check it out when I get the chance!
@persistentconsistency
@persistentconsistency 6 ай бұрын
Haven't visited this channel since diving back into school and becoming super busy, but I sure hope you come back to bring us more!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 4 ай бұрын
Alas haven't been doing videos for ages now. But have been doing analyses over on Patreon if you're interested #shamelessplug
@sirtobey1337
@sirtobey1337 3 жыл бұрын
Look at the Privateer 161 or 141 please! Also, great video, once again
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestions
@benasquith26
@benasquith26 3 жыл бұрын
I second that
@esdubya
@esdubya 3 жыл бұрын
Nice work mate. Interesting and informative, keep it up 👍🏽.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@spuddo123
@spuddo123 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see an analysis of the We Are One Arrival, as people have said so many good things about it's 152mm of travel
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
If you're interested, I have a summary of it over on patreon.com/trailpov #shamelessplug
@BretMaverick
@BretMaverick 3 жыл бұрын
Just met your pops at the Bracky Bean! Love your content man 🙌🏼
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
That's cool. I'm guessing he was wearing his very distinctive shirt. Or how else did you recognize him?
@trevorfields5216
@trevorfields5216 Жыл бұрын
You should keep doing these videos! There is new and exciting suspension designs coming out all the time! Can you review the digit datum?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV Жыл бұрын
Hi Trevor. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I have continued to look at bikes over on Patreon if you're interested #shamelessplug
@unplannedadventure2289
@unplannedadventure2289 3 жыл бұрын
I've been riding my 2021 meta am seen November. I agree with you 100% I have no problem keeping up with lower travel bike climbing.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@angelicafigueroa9724
@angelicafigueroa9724 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have the 2020 and I now ride the 2021. Let me tell you, the change is HUGE, and for the better. The new bike feels much faster and planted, and is much more comfortable for pedaling.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Happy Trails!
@finroddd
@finroddd Жыл бұрын
Hi there - it is about the 2021 AM. It the rear suspension stiffens under braking or remain active? Thanks
@fergussandilands7757
@fergussandilands7757 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the video Could you please make a video on the new Nukeproof mega please. Keep up the great work!!!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input
@jdude9922
@jdude9922 6 ай бұрын
These videos need to come back. The one channel that actually gets straight to the numbers.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 6 ай бұрын
Haha. I've moved the channel over to Patreon as the videos took way too long and I couldn't do them and hold a full-time job anymore
@jdude9922
@jdude9922 6 ай бұрын
@TrailPOV I can respect that but I miss having someone that cut through all the marketing hype and personal opinions about bikes and just giving me the objective facts.
@kurtisk.2725
@kurtisk.2725 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, they really help me understand how to understand the suspension kinematic graphs. Thanks so much!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@mtbohana
@mtbohana 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this review. I have been waiting for it. I currently have a 2018 Meta AM, but my 2021 version is showing up in January. I Can't wait.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Hope you like it!
@freekodry
@freekodry 3 жыл бұрын
January? I was informed mine comes April 21 :(
@mtbohana
@mtbohana 3 жыл бұрын
@@freekodry When did you order?
@freekodry
@freekodry 3 жыл бұрын
@@mtbohana a month ago, but I heard all the brands are having problems with getting components
@mtbohana
@mtbohana 3 жыл бұрын
@@freekodry I ordered 2 months ago. Maybe thats why I'm getting my bike in January. Meta AM Essential in Gun Metal.
@erpol9258
@erpol9258 3 жыл бұрын
Great vidéo as always . And a review of the propain tyee would be great. They have a really interesting design
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestion
@arthurphilibert9069
@arthurphilibert9069 3 жыл бұрын
Great vid
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@WesMacaulay
@WesMacaulay 3 жыл бұрын
I don't even give a rat's ass which bike you're reviewing. I just care there's a new TrailPOV analysis to watch. YEWWWWWW
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Haha :)
@JGD444
@JGD444 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! You read my mind!
@500whpSTI
@500whpSTI 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! It would be really awesome to see you cover the design of the canyon spectral some time.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@bettermountainrides
@bettermountainrides 3 жыл бұрын
This explains why the Meta AM 29 comes stock with the maximum volume spacers in the rear shock
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
That would make sense
@ChainBrothersMTB
@ChainBrothersMTB 3 жыл бұрын
And it’s still not enough!! I’m going to get my shock revalved and hope it’s enough...
@JamesRobertMTB
@JamesRobertMTB 3 жыл бұрын
29 is the way to go 💨
@lachlan_bakewell
@lachlan_bakewell 3 жыл бұрын
29 for winning races and 27 for having fun!
@calebsmith113
@calebsmith113 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking forward to this bike for a while great work man 👍
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@vladmarcu225
@vladmarcu225 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted this review so much, great video as always. Also wanted to say that I support the comments that suggest looking at the new privateer models. Also, the new Vitus range would be interesting to see imo
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input!
@ИгорьДемченко-о7ж
@ИгорьДемченко-о7ж 2 жыл бұрын
Thank God I found your channel! There are few places where you can find videos of the suspension kinematics! I would like to see something similar for COMMENCAL CLASH 2021-2022.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@1BastiSeba
@1BastiSeba 3 жыл бұрын
I bought a meta 2020 and a few weeks later they launch the 2021 version. I feel relief now knowing that the kinematics are similar. Thanks
@davidmihai2004
@davidmihai2004 3 жыл бұрын
The geometry is completely different and way more agressive, the geometry does like 75% of the difference and from my experience feels way better, you shouldn't compare them only by kinematics numbers and also by feel and geometry.👍
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
If you love your new bike then all good 🤘
@veggietables6974
@veggietables6974 3 жыл бұрын
I love your videos, thanks for all of the effort that you put in! I would be really interested to hear what you have to say about either Pole or Fracebike’s designs, I’m sure you would really help put some of their ideas into a digestible perspective!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Never even heard of Fracebike. Thanks for the compliment and suggestions
@eslampar
@eslampar 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! Please do the Norco Sight (29). I think they have taken a different approach to others. Cheers
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input!
@Nickporter17
@Nickporter17 3 жыл бұрын
There's a bunch of new bikes out. Please make some more of these incredible videos!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
I just gotta stop working 6 days/wk at my normal job so I finally have some time to put some more vids out.
@Nickporter17
@Nickporter17 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV ya that's rough
@kangandres
@kangandres 3 жыл бұрын
hello.. thank you for uploading new content
@bogdanbroasca9066
@bogdanbroasca9066 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats for this amazing content! A comparison between the different rear suspension regarding the number of pivots would be awesome! I'm referring to the differences at mobile or fixed linkage between the "chain stay" and "seat stay".
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@matthewdefer8215
@matthewdefer8215 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see the meta tr29 2022!! I have been ridding it all year and I’m blown away at how fun this bike is. 🙏 thanks
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@ridesafealways4929
@ridesafealways4929 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos man. Very informative. Can you please do an analysis of the GT Fury 2014-2018 Suspension Design with the IDRIVE and how and why it won several DH world cups with the Athertons and even went into Redbull Rampage with Kyle Strait in 2014 despite being a linear single pivot.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 11 ай бұрын
Alas I am no longer doing videos, but I am still analyzing bikes over on Patreon if you're interested. #shamelessplug
@MyErik001
@MyErik001 3 жыл бұрын
Try Mega 290 dude, excellent videos!!!!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@josediegoruizhuidobro1224
@josediegoruizhuidobro1224 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Mega 290!
@morgancook4128
@morgancook4128 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 10k, loving the content and keep up the good work, should try get the specs of the Pinkbike Grim donut!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@billblake4029
@billblake4029 3 жыл бұрын
Fabulous work as usual Sir.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@scottaw
@scottaw 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, really like the details covered here. With the new StumpJumper suspension ditching the Horst Link, one idea for a video would be to compare the suspension design/behaviors of the old vs. new StumpJumpers.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@unitedtoshred7210
@unitedtoshred7210 3 жыл бұрын
Yay thank you! You might've not seen but I requested this bike . Cheers
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
No problem 👍
@_gtkoko
@_gtkoko 3 жыл бұрын
Great content! Would be great to see a split pivot/abp review, to all the words around their claims on active suspension while breaking.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Both suspensions are definately on my radar.
@emteehillshawaii
@emteehillshawaii 3 жыл бұрын
Great content 🤙
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@surreyistambay565
@surreyistambay565 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the subs!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@holiyo3923
@holiyo3923 3 жыл бұрын
Great channel and explanations. You should do one about GT's I-drive and AOS. Please!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@holiyo3923
@holiyo3923 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV It is an unique platform loved by many. AOS is very underrated.
@fonzo9405
@fonzo9405 3 жыл бұрын
you should make a video on esker's orion design by Dave Weagle. Awesome video as always. love your channel and content. Keep it up!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input. I ended up looking at this suspension design for a Patreon member. Very interesting which some distinct differences especially when it comes to wheel path.
@czlenson888
@czlenson888 Ай бұрын
Is there any chance you will continue these analyses? I would love to hear what you have to say about the new suspension on the Commencal Meta V5.
@monarch8188
@monarch8188 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video about suspension like NS Soda / Transition Bottlerocket This is bikes for freeride, and I'm pretty interesting in this type of suspension!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestions
@nomadtrails
@nomadtrails 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome content, would love to see the TR version of the Meta!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@theshortestcharles6886
@theshortestcharles6886 3 жыл бұрын
How would one calculate anti-rise and anti-squat values for a 6-bar suspension such as the DW6 system on Atherton Bikes? That particular system uses a layout similar to a Horst-link, but the lower bar is connected to the front triangle by two short, counter-rotating links instead of a fixed pivot. I'd assume one would treat it as a 4-bar system, with the lower link extending from the pivot near the axle to the instant center of the short links (so the lower bar would change throughout the travel), but I'm not sure if that's correct.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't actually taken a look too closely at this platform, but I now am intrigued....
@theshortestcharles6886
@theshortestcharles6886 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV I think my assumption was correct, according to this article: pinkbike.com/news/pinkbike-poll-whats-your-favourite-suspension-system.html . I was unaware of this particular system until recently, but it seems very interesting. Atherton doesn't publish any kinematics as far as I'm aware, so maybe you could do a video on this in the future? The Orion system (also by Dave Weagle, of course) on the Esker bikes also seems interesting, but those are both fairly boutique and would be more for fun than for helping potential buyers.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
@@theshortestcharles6886 Thanks for the link. I have actually looked at the Orion system for one of my Patreons and it definitely does have some advantages especially when it comes to wheelpath
@andrewfara71
@andrewfara71 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent analysis! I would like to see an analysis on Ghost Riot 2021!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@BikeBrosLaUnion
@BikeBrosLaUnion 3 жыл бұрын
Cool Reviews! 😎👍
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! 👍
@patrickmeador8855
@patrickmeador8855 3 жыл бұрын
You should do a video comparing the Canyon Torque to the YT Capra 27.5.
@flexmtb
@flexmtb Жыл бұрын
Appreciate all the work that goes into your videos! Would love to see you cover Niner's CVA suspension like on the Rip 9 RDO or WFO. I ride a Rip 9 and I have to say that Niner's suspension is possibly the most advanced and unique in the industry. Would be great to get your analysis on it. Thanks!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input. I have taken a look at the Niner over on my patreon page if you're interested #shamelessplug
@flexmtb
@flexmtb Жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV Makes sense. Thanks.
@flexmtb
@flexmtb Жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV Oh, no more videos though? Just a PDF? Ok. Would be nice if you continued the videos on the Patreon page.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV Жыл бұрын
@@flexmtb Unfortunately the video's take 40+ hours to animate so decided it's better to do PDFs so you all can get the data and I can put out more content consistently.
@joelzp5733
@joelzp5733 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to help out
@iangeles38
@iangeles38 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad I opted out of a coil shock. The commencal guys talked me out of it.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice
@clydechai1720
@clydechai1720 6 ай бұрын
Commencal clash next pls
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 6 ай бұрын
I've reviewed the 2023 Commencal Clash over on patreon if you're interested #shamelessplug
@lumpy-ball-1237
@lumpy-ball-1237 3 жыл бұрын
Hey can you please do another skiing video at cypress I loved that video and I heard the conditions there are pretty good lately also I love ur vids
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
COVID and Cypress skiing is difficult due to the booking system and very long lineups :( But glad you enjoyed the video
@lumpy-ball-1237
@lumpy-ball-1237 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV I went yesterday and if you go to lifts like sky chair and ravens ridge the lines take about 5 minutes especially if you go and a week day
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
@@lumpy-ball-1237 Nice. I'd love to fit in a weekday ski. This thing called work seems to get in the way :P
@mondrider994
@mondrider994 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Pleease make a video about Mondraker Superfoxy
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@riddioughp
@riddioughp Жыл бұрын
Where have you gone, we need to see more reviews on KZbin
@riddioughp
@riddioughp Жыл бұрын
Even if there just summary’s
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV Жыл бұрын
I've headed over the Patreon entirely with many many more reviews. Mostly because I had to take up a full-time job during Covid.
@brigno6999
@brigno6999 3 жыл бұрын
Can you breakdown the 2021 trek slash?? Loving the videos, keep them up
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestion
@cooperwinter852
@cooperwinter852 3 жыл бұрын
When can you do the canyon strive cf
@zzcn
@zzcn 3 жыл бұрын
finally "see" what these anti- mean. great
@dimitrithomas
@dimitrithomas 3 жыл бұрын
I love these videos! Can you do the Propain Tyee?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
I ended up taking a peek at the Tyee over on my Patreon page patreon.com/trailpov
@avenpace
@avenpace 3 жыл бұрын
Very good and informative video - Thank you. Could You please do the Nukeproof Mega 2021, and how does it compare to the old 2020 frame model please - Thanks in advance. Liked, and subscribed, regards
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@joeidoni
@joeidoni 3 жыл бұрын
I would be very excited to see an analysis of the Jamis 3VO suspension.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion!
@sonic703ify
@sonic703ify 3 жыл бұрын
What about Mondraker Zero Suspension? As the „inventor“ of modern Geos and excellent results in all disciplines - it would be super interesting to see if their system has any special secret sauce to it 😎 Especially the newest aluminium Superfoxy 29 received good feedback from community and tests/reviews! As it is slightly more progressive than the original Foxy 29! Best regards, you‘re awesome!!!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestion 😀
@maxlaguda4232
@maxlaguda4232 3 жыл бұрын
Hey there again! I’ve got libreCAD and am wondering how you figure out the leverage ratio and the shocks progressiveness, is there a formula...because I’m wanting to calculate the wheel rate of a bike so I can analyse it and understand its performance! Thanks 😊 great vid too, always interesting and informative!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Well that would just put me out of a job if everyone knew how to do it ;)
@excusegenerator2098
@excusegenerator2098 3 жыл бұрын
Max I feel you man! TrailPOV if you aint gonna take on suggestions for bikes in the comments section, at least let the man know how to do it himself. You got real fans here, don’t let ‘em down
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
@@excusegenerator2098 If you plot the motion of all the pivots and the calculate the incremental movement of the wheel vs the shock through the travel you can easily calculate LR. As for progressiveness, that is based on the slope of the LR line.
@ChezzyDirt
@ChezzyDirt 3 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how many people run coil on the META TR & 29. I would love to see a writeup on the Revel Rascal, do you have someplace to vote on this? Thanks for your effort, love watching these!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
While I haven't looked at the Rascal, I have looked at the Revel Rail which I'd imagine has a similar suspension philosophy
@ChezzyDirt
@ChezzyDirt 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV oh cool, somehow i missed that. Thank you, just watched it 👍 love my CBF Rascal, works incredibly well.
@mr1982davies
@mr1982davies 3 жыл бұрын
I run a coil on mine but a progressive coil the meta am loves it it’s awesome
@ctmusic1
@ctmusic1 3 жыл бұрын
Could you do a video on pull shocks (fox dyad, equalizer 3)? It probably won't be the most popular topic for you, but it will be super geeky, which I think you do better than anyone. I own a Cannondale Trigger with the fox dyad rt2, and the rear suspension feels so different, but the performance is absolutely amazing.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. Definately going back a couple of years when pull shocks were the hot topic
@worschtsemmelracing9545
@worschtsemmelracing9545 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome linkage review. Could you do a review about single (high) pivot downhill bikes (Commencal, Norco) Why is this design that successful?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. You could take a look at my review of the Forbidden Druid that has some characteristics of the DH bikes you mention, but shorter travel
@TommyStenberg
@TommyStenberg 3 жыл бұрын
Very nicely produced videos! Where do you get all the measurements for the moving parts of the bike to do your calculations?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I try to get all my data from Cad drawings that I simulate linkage movements and then calculate the various params using a giant excel spreadsheet.
@texicanessianmountainbiker3004
@texicanessianmountainbiker3004 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make an analysis on the Propane Hugene?
@shaunf836
@shaunf836 2 жыл бұрын
Howdy Matt, what software do you use to create the graphics as well as the graphs? I’m hoping to break into the industry and have been studying suspension designs for a few years… been drawing and measuring on paper!! Thanks!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
The Adobe Creative Suite. Good luck
@benediktterhart6166
@benediktterhart6166 3 жыл бұрын
mondraker foxy/superfoxy could be very interresting
@Tibiscuit_OW2
@Tibiscuit_OW2 2 жыл бұрын
Which Software do you use? Are you using Linkagex3? Thanks ! Love your content ! I discover a new passion there added to that of riding the bikes !
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
Using my own spreadsheet for the calculations and Adobe suite for the animations
@Tibiscuit_OW2
@Tibiscuit_OW2 2 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV Okay, insane job, thanks !
@Cg-fh5re
@Cg-fh5re 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice channel. I would love to see the new Propain tyee and Hugene versions and their p10 version of a vpp
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestion. You could always join me over on Patreon to see the Tyee #shamelessplug
@liwx
@liwx 3 жыл бұрын
great vid ! could you pls do a comparison on commencal clash 2020/2021 ?
@fhz956
@fhz956 3 жыл бұрын
Hello! You made a great video! I love it!! Can you do a video on KTM Prowler next time? I like this Austrian brand mountain bike so much, but I can't find its reviews on the Internet...
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestion. I know KTM for their motorbikes, not their MTBs.
@fhz956
@fhz956 3 жыл бұрын
Oh... Thanks for your reply!! I like KTM's mountain bikes very much, although they seem to be very obscure, few people are riding them... KTM prowler is my bike now, I wish someone could analyze this beautiful guy... I don't know whether the car is good or not
@fhz956
@fhz956 3 жыл бұрын
Do you know "KTM prowler"? It looks so handsome. May I ask you to do a video of it? This is "KTM Prowler.www.flidistribution.co.uk/2020-ktm-prowler-sonic-1
@makeitrandom3067
@makeitrandom3067 2 жыл бұрын
yow nice content very informative... btw can you also include KHS enduro bike thanks.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@brandonstefan3845
@brandonstefan3845 3 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a suspension review for the propain spindrift or tyee.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion. Data for the Tyee and more is currently available on my Patreon page if you're interested. #shamelessplug
@roymorales3654
@roymorales3654 3 жыл бұрын
great video you can make a video of the marin alpine trail 8 vs alpine trail xr ?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@micaelpereira953
@micaelpereira953 3 жыл бұрын
Nice analisys once more! Are you thinking analising Propain Tyee or Canyon Spectral?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Its very possible one of those might be next
@tomphan6438
@tomphan6438 3 жыл бұрын
Could you review the Orbea Oiz?
@rickybonn
@rickybonn 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed. Great visuals and explainations. I would love to see an analysis of the Banshee Rune v3. I just went from a Reign which you've assessed to this and I can't believe how different it feels (better). All manufacturers your their own benefits but I wonder if the numbers support this...or is it just placebo. Thanks!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment. Glad you like the content!
@HannyDart
@HannyDart 3 жыл бұрын
Great informative video as always! Are you taking the geometry-data directly from the pictures by counting pixels?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
As much as possible I take the geometry data from 2D CAD diagrams of the bike. Alternatively I use a photo along with geometry data from shock length and chainstay length to account for the perspective effect cause by the camera that elongates the far corners of a bike photo
@HannyDart
@HannyDart 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV Where do you finde the 2D CAD diagrams of all those bikes? Im an engineering student and so far i was doing measurements of my bike by taking pictures from as far away as possible and then taking the crankarm or shock length as scale for counting pixels...
@alberthfebry2487
@alberthfebry2487 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful bike 🤩
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@DiagMTBchannel
@DiagMTBchannel 3 жыл бұрын
Is such huge anti-rise value really a good idea? Doesn't that create unbalance with the fork that has 0 anti-rise (unless you have a linkage fork but you dont see many of these...), my personnal experience with both high anti-rise (meta v3) and more active rear suspension (trek slash) is you can brake harder and retain more control with the later.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
The anti-rise makes up for a lack of anti-dive in the fork a little bit by squatting down under rear braking helping keep the bike level. A low anti-rise can make for better traction by not firming up suspension as much as long as you pull your weight back sufficiently to counteract the weight transfer forward. If you don't weight back then the weight will move forward and actually lower the traction of the rear wheel
@SuperSTEIN24
@SuperSTEIN24 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a norco sight vs transition sentinel. Super similar bikes by the numbers!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input
@taylorfamily2010
@taylorfamily2010 2 жыл бұрын
Great video..I'd be interested to see you do a review on the new 2022 canyon spectral mullet and explain why they choose a coil shock vs the rest of the spectral line up has air shock.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input
@eastcoastcruisin4071
@eastcoastcruisin4071 3 жыл бұрын
Super awesome just got one of these and put a coil on it despite the numbers I really like it.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Nice. Enjoy!
@eastcoastcruisin4071
@eastcoastcruisin4071 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV Could you do a Kona Hei Hei next it's a single pivot down country bike that incorporates flex stays into the design I think that could be super interesting from an engineering perspective.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
@@eastcoastcruisin4071 Flex stays are such a difficult thing to model. One can estimate this middle of a link as a pivot, but ultimately one would need some simulation software to show how a beam will actually bend along it's entire length
@eastcoastcruisin4071
@eastcoastcruisin4071 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrailPOV makes perfect sense, Kona assumes that it flexes 5mm cause of how the shock is setup the stroke would only give 5mm of travel but it is marketed as a 120mm front and rear trail bike.
@morethanbikes
@morethanbikes 3 жыл бұрын
Very cool. Thank you! Can you take a dive into the 3VO Suspension system currently used by Jamis Bikes on the Portal 29" and Hardline 27.5" Thanks!! Keep up the great reviews!!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestions
@MyKwoon
@MyKwoon 3 жыл бұрын
How a Canfield Riot camparision? yes, I know you have reviewed a Revel bike with also a CBF suspension design.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
While it's not at the top of my mind, its good to know there is interest in it.
@sammatthews4625
@sammatthews4625 2 жыл бұрын
do you think decreasing chainring size to a 30t or even a 28t would have a significantly negative effect on the suspension and or brake jack given its slight rear axle path?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 2 жыл бұрын
Based on the math, the different between those two chainring sizes is negligible
@scottkenny797
@scottkenny797 3 жыл бұрын
Love the vids, great work 👍 could we get a nukeproof mega analysis? Thanks!
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the compliment and suggestion
@dominikgrbac1764
@dominikgrbac1764 3 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on explaining a LTS suspension design on the 2021 GT Force. Love your videos.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the input.
@user-xv5tx9gy2z
@user-xv5tx9gy2z 10 ай бұрын
Please come back and make more videos
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 10 ай бұрын
I wish I had way more time to do this but life is keeping me very busy. Feel free to join me over on Patreon if you want to geek out #shamelessplug
@snowwhere2
@snowwhere2 3 жыл бұрын
Could you add the Deviate Highlander to your list of future videos please. Many thanks
@cristobaldulantodiaz3558
@cristobaldulantodiaz3558 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I have this bike and was thinking about puttig a coil shock, but at the end you said it wouldn't be ypur first choice. Wich one do you think is better?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
An air shock will provide better bottom our support
@jakobhammerer3508
@jakobhammerer3508 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing Video!!! I was wondering if you have any sugesstions for good literature to write an scientific work about the physiks of the rear suspension of mountainbikes. Thanks
@iliyadavoodipour258
@iliyadavoodipour258 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! It will be very appreciated if you would make a video abou the new cube stereo 170 soon.
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion
@isaiassv
@isaiassv 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I congratulate you on the video. I like your way of explaining. Would it be possible to compare the geometry of the Polygon Siskiu N9 bicycle?
@TrailPOV
@TrailPOV 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the suggestion and compliment
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