Commercial Bad Boy vs Kubuta vs Hustler vs Stihl Gravely Grasshopper Scag ZTR Shootout

[@travisricks3436]

Kevin, I absolutely LOVE your lawnmower videos and hearing the word of God!! I bought a new Gravely ZT HD 60 back in March of 2024 and I absolutely LOVE IT!! It was my first Gravely purchase. I were closer to you I would definitely be doing business with you. You are a Godly man, and please continue to always keep it real. God is using you to get through to his people, through a zero turn lawn mower and that is 💯% AWESOME!!!

[@MegaFranceschini]

Amen to that. I notice.👍🙏

[@prostreetcamaro]

After 43 years in this business and owning most major brands we are sticking the the Velocity+ deck. Literally cut the hours on the same size machine in half because we dont need to double cut anything any more. The deck is EVERYTHING and the V+ is king in northern fescues.

[@happycamper5900]

The side by side comparison is exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for a great video and explanation.

[@CraigFrancis-kq7vi]

All I know is this place is where I’m buying my second mower 100%! I have a Renegade Diesel and this is the only place I will take it. Kevin and his team have been a blessing. I had a problem with a relay, called them and drove 2.5 hours and Chris was able to fix it on the spot and back to mowing we went. I understand that was based on the situation but man you can ask for a better group of employees. Love this place.

[@kgmowers]

@@CraigFrancis-kq7vi ty so much for this comment. You have no idea how much it means. Most of the time we see negative comments it’s a lot harder to take the time out to make a good comment. I’m gonna have to show the crew this they were hit hard with some upset and demanding customers last week, this will make up for some of that :).

[@PaulHopper-q8d]

We just bought a bad boy mower with a 72-inch deck . We have it for a long day on our acres. So far, it's has turned out to be extremely mower, great in every way as we use it. we will comment about what we find out about the good and bad about this mower: fuel use and ride over the long days.

[@kgmowers]

@@PaulHopper-q8d we highly recommend the 72” deck… a lot of people are terrified of them, but once you get one it changes the game. We have sold more 104s this year than all 16 years combined as a dealer as well

[@sheamartin33]

I just brought a bad boy maverick hd 60 inch and I just love it

[@kgmowers]

@@sheamartin33 congrats that’s one of our best sellers :)

[@watersracing747]

This last few minutes is why I now choose to purchase a new mower from you alone as soon as I can afford it

[@ScottyLo]

Love seeing and hearing the comparisons for all of these mowers. The transmissions are the key to longevity is what I’m hearing so thanks again for sharing your knowledge

[@kgmowers]

TY so much for the support and feedback. I will do my best to post more videos, I was cutting back due to people saying the sound wasnt good, or quality was lax, but Im just gonna do the best I can and get in atleast a 1 or 2 a week habit

[@coltonnewman8283]

I think I’m seeing a walker mower back there in the shop. Outta have one of them out there but the price is kinda high. They do cut really nice though and handle very nicely

[@kgmowers]

@@coltonnewman8283 nothing cuts better that a bagging walker. They are amazing!! Straight lines are super easy on those

[@royvillalobos5475]

Thanks for a great video. Helps a lot!

[@DWSF250]

Love how you are all about the LORD AND EVERYTHING YOU DO BROTHER🙏🙌🏼 🙏Thinking about a Mower deck for my 2022 1025H with a backhoe already on it 3rd function and grapple Beast of a unit. Also maybe a new Zero turn mower lol got 2 ruff acres to handle in FL 😎😎😎

[@kgmowers]

@@DWSF250 cool!! Just keep in mind the backhoe and mower deck cannot be on at the same time due the under frame of the back hoe being when the mower mounts.

[@GaryMorrisJr-pt9oh]

Amen brother. Thank you for the wise words at the end. That to me is worth more than what you’ve talked about in these mowers. God bless ya

[@kgmowers]

@@GaryMorrisJr-pt9oh thank you for supporting us :)

[@samuelhshoemaker5541]

I have a Kubota ZD221 and I have had zero problems with it . Diesel is the best way to go if you are a lawn care person. The fuel economy and power is a plus !

[@kgmowers]

@@samuelhshoemaker5541 yes you shouldn’t have much at all go wrong with a top of the line unit :)

[@stonycreek1000]

Amen Brother!

[@rfasano18]

Great video! Currently looking for a mower for my father's property which is about 3 acres of grass total with a mix of open area and a fair amount of obstacles around the perimeter and along the driveway. Right now it takes 4hrs on a 44in cub cadet tractor mower and he has a cyclone rake tow behind for fall and spring clean up, so looking for a new zero turn to replace both of those and cut the time down. What is your opinion on the dump from seat powered bagger for the fastrak sdx? From what I can find it looks like Hustler is the only one with a dump from seat option as opposed to a 2 bag system in this range.

[@kgmowers]

@@rfasano18 I’ve only seen a pic of it. I haven’t sold one yet. Looks really good in the pictures though. We don’t sell a lot of baggers here

[@rfasano18]

@@kgmowers Thanks for the reply! In your opinion would the Fastrak SDX be a good fit for us or would you recommend something else?

[@kgmowers]

@@rfasano18 yes that would be an amazing choice :). You can hear it in my voice in the video that is my pick :)

[@andrewrickard7399]

Let’s say money was not a factor. What is the best cutting mower in the business? Wet grass, different kinds of grass, clover, whatever the case may be. What mower is leaving a clean, slick cut every time?

[@kgmowers]

@@andrewrickard7399 there is no such thing as perfect without swapping styles of blades, pitching the deck differently, etc. Scag turf tiger would be my top pick, 31hp efi dfi kawasaki would be huckleberry. Next best would be 900 front mount, or 400 series mid mount grasshopper with a kubota gas 3 cylinder engine. On grown up yards the 104 hustler has been the best I’ve used. I have a 2 acre yard, and most mowers are pretty pointless out there beside the 104. Hope this helps :). I will be honest though, personally I use a bad boy rogue due to the ride. Gator g6 blades make it cut really good.

[@andrewrickard7399]

Thanks, bro.

[@ShaneSalyers-y5u]

Awesome video. Kevin I love the videos you have produced. They are always informative and honest. But most of all I love hearing you share the WORD that God has put on your hart with the people watching your videos. Unfortunately I live in South West Ohio, so there is little chance I will ever be able to bring you Business. But Kevin I would love to purchase a Hat just like the one you are wearing in this video. Matthew on the one side. K&G in the front and Grasshopper on the other side. I am a huge Grasshopper guy my self and I would love to advertise for K&G by wearing that hat. Please let me know where to go to make that purchase. Love ya my brother in the Lord. Ps keep up the good work.

[@kgmowers]

@@ShaneSalyers-y5u yes sir. Can you shoot me a pm on our Facebook page or our website kgmowers. Send us name address phone number and we will get you fixed up. We sell the hats and the profit goes to our missions fund for 903 freedom mission :).

[@tommypavlovsky5925]

Do you have any experience with Spartan mowers and how they rate? Thanks for all the great advice.

[@PBoss0]

i HAVE A HUSTLER MINI Z WITH 19 KAW & 52 " DECK SUSPENSION FRONT WHEELS -- 250 HOURS -- MOW 1.5 ACRES. -- HOW DOES THIS COMPARE TO THE NEW HUSTLER FAST TRACK SDX?

[@kgmowers]

@@PBoss0 it doesn’t. The new fastraks are much better. They went above and beyond about 4 years ago.

[@JasPlun]

Badboy Maverick also offers the new Honda fuel injected engine option! That Gravely rattle issues would not bother me I always have hearing protection or earbuds in so I would not even hear it through the noise. I am a fan of Badboy had great luck with them. In the past my family who has a big commercial mowing business used Kubotas and they had lots of gearbox issues, bit that was 10 years ago I sure hope by now Kubota fixed those issues. Grasshopper is one of the top of the line mowers, but for the money Badboy all the way:P The Hustler is always a win for a mowing company they were always the fastest and easy to service can't go wrong with them either.

[@kgmowers]

@@JasPlun Honda pulled out a few years ago of the mower market. They may come back in in 2026 when the tariff lifts

[@JasPlun]

@@kgmowers I see I went back and the video I watched with the Honda was 2 years old. Honda was a damn good engine. I run GX-200 series on my spray rigs run them 12-14 hours a day and get years of service from them. Tough engines! I am just South of you about 80 miles and do work up there. I will stop in to your store soon and check out some equipment ty sir:P

[@kgmowers]

@@JasPlun come on we can fix you up. We have a big Stihl selection as well :).

[@lestapp9582]

Thanks for the informative video. I have a 2013 Grasshopper 727K with T6 transmission. How does this transmission compare to the 4400 you mentioned in the video. Thank you.

[@kgmowers]

@@lestapp9582 no t6s are bomb!! They are custom made for grasshopper and are one of a kind 🙌🏽. You hit a home run

[@lestapp9582]

@@kgmowers thank you.

[@appstate1996]

Thank you for this comparison video. If was very helpful to me as I make my decision. I also want to thank you for sharing your testimony and the scripture. God Bless you brother

[@kgmowers]

@@appstate1996 what did you go with

[@waynecastleman1363]

I run a 24 hp Cub Cadet , fabricated deck , 54 cut , Kawasaki engine . About 20 acres a month and really enjoy the ride , the springer front helps a little bit but its not Cadillac smooth.

[@evansartin7630]

Hey @kgmowers I’m torn between the Fastrak SDX 54 and the Scag Patriot 52. Worried the Fastrak might be a little underpowered with 22HP. Is cut quality going to be much worse because of the smaller engine on the hustler. I’ve got about a 3 acre residential property to keep up with in south MS

[@kgmowers]

@@evansartin7630 man that’s a tough decision. I will tell you this, that hp difference you really aren’t gonna notice on those two. I would test drive both. The hustler has some edge that I like, and patriot has some features I like. Don’t forget you can pay $500 extra on the Fastrak and have a 6 year full parts and labor warranty on engine and mower through hustler 🤔

[@evansartin7630]

That is a good warranty on the Hustler. Do you prefer the 52 or 61 on the Patriot?

[@kgmowers]

@@evansartin7630 61 for sure with the bigger transmissions

[@rw3al]

Quick Question as Im a truck driver an have very little computer time. First off enjoyed this video very much. I have a Toro model # 21B-34M8711 54" in cut Timecutter mower and was wondering what transmission I am running and how durable it is, I have approx 2 acres an have only owned the mower for about 3 months. It was bought at Lowes in NC which I used my Military discount of $400 . Any help appreciated on the Transmission appreciated, Thank you and God Bless,,,,,Ricky Willis

[@kgmowers]

@@rw3al you should have ezt sealed transmissions I would guess. Very light for 2 acres. I would recommend stepping up to atleast 2800 serviceable when you have the funds :).

[@mrpips000]

Thanks for the video, it's going to help me decide on my new mower. My only complaint is the resolution of the video. 720 is too low these days. If you could, please record in 1080 or higher, of if you shot this in higher res, please upload it.

[@kgmowers]

@@mrpips000 oh goodness, I wouldn’t even know where to start. I used my iPhone 13 and just pushed record. What sucks is my phone over heated 3 times so I had to download all 3 videos to wonder share then link them together to post. I bought a very high dollar gimble, and a Sony bad to the bone camera, but even using the gimble it looks like I have Parkinson’s with that giant camera shaking around 🙈. One of these days we are going to start shooting waaaay better quality content. Hopefully for next season we have a media team and can start doing a lot of mission trip videos and advertising vids :). Thank you for sticking with us :).

[@henryclark5486]

Amen 🙏, thanks for sharing the word of God in your video 😊.

[@lunathewolf3346]

God Bless!

[@Lovinflyindrones2022]

This is my first time watching your chan̈n̈el and ill definitely be back. I appreciate you taking A stand for Jesus and telling everyone what they need to hear. Im a wayward Christian right now myself. I use to be in church every time the door was open basically now ive not been in several years. Im as miserable as miserable is. I ask anyone who reads this to pray for me and my family. I need to get back to the Lord Jesus Christ. Please 🙏 pray for me. I feel like im the walking Dead

[@kgmowers]

@@Lovinflyindrones2022 I found nothing in church. 24 years of calling myself a Christian when I had no idea of what that meant. It wasn’t until I started turning off the tv and asking hard questions to God like “there has to be more to life than this”. “What did you make me for?” “Is there something wrong with religion?” The craziest one was when I finally asked God “Hey, I suppose I have everything I need since I have You…. Is there anything that You would like me to do?” That night I had a dream of other countries, He told me to get a passport. People thought I had lost my mind and went nuts. Here we are 23 nations later, and just put in my first offer on a business, home, and land in a third world nation :). My craziest prayer was when I asked Him to send me to the places no one wants to go to, and the people no one wants to help. I’m telling you brother, as He started stripping all the junk off of me, and as He is starting to fill me with His dreams and visions, it looks much different than your typical “church” view. Any question I have for a man I tend to get a much better answer going straight to Him then being led by Him. He taught me how to fight the spirits of depression, loneliness, suicide, greed, selfishness, addictions, etc. He taught me how to speak to them. I know it may sound unrealistic and u reachable now, I’m telling you 10 years ago with a kimber to my head pulling the trigger blowing my head off after watching my wife walk into the arms of my best friend and salesman, watching him take over my home, my wife, my kids, everything I had worked hard for most of my life. That’s when I finally started realizing my whole life was pointless and nothing I did had any meaning whatsoever. That’s when Jesus slipped in and so gently started showing me if I didn’t want my life anymore, maybe He could take it and make it into something He wanted it to be. I was so willing to submit to Him after the realization life was all garbage, and as a sinner I was already dead just waiting for the end to come quickly. Dead man walking. I will tell you my life of adventure just began at 36 years old when I “gave Him my life”. 2 years of crazy deliverance, then He started sending me out. Now my life is wild. Here in a few months I will get to share a crazy huge change He has brought to us and how He is flipping our lives upside down :). I will be praying for you brother, the reason you felt led to comment was waaay bigger than you and me both. This is about a relationship with your living Creator and what He can do with a surrendered vessel. If you’ll allow Him He can cast out devils through you, heal through you, disciple nations through you, and change the world through you if you’ll simply allow Him :) Offer Him your life as a living sacrifice, fully give it to Him and go ahead and let Him have what He bought and paid for. Then pick up your cross and follow Him. It won’t look like any church you have been to, it’s gonna be wild, crazy, scary, and amazing all at the same time :)

[@Lovinflyindrones2022]

@kgmowers wow I'm blown away here you taking the time to quickly respond to my situation. I REALLY APPRECIATE MORE THAN YOU WILL EVER KNOW BROTHER YOU MADE ME REALIZE SOMETHING THAT I ALREADY KNEW BUT THROUGH MY DEEP DEEP DARK DEPRESSION I HAD BASICALLY FORGOTTEN. THANKS AGAIN FOR THE GREAT WORDS OF ENCOURAGEMENT THROUGH THE LORD JESUS. YOU ARE RIGHT MY LIFE RIGHT IS WORTHLESS NO JOY PEACE ANYTHING WITHOUT HIM. I FEEL LIKE IM JUST SLOWLY SLIPPING AWAY PHYSICALLY AND MORE IMPORTANT SPIRITUALLY. PEASE PRAY THAT I CAN AND WILL GIVE MY LIFE TOTALLY 100 MILLION PERCENT TO HIM SO I CAN HAVE SOME PURPOSE IN LIFE. IM NOT WORTH A PLUG KNICKLE RIGHT NOW I WANT AND FEEL THE HOLY SPIRIT TRYING TO DRAW ME BACK TO HIM I THINK I WAS LEAD TO YOUR CHANNEL I REALLY DO. THANKS AGAIN BROTHER FOR TAKING YOUR PRECIOUS TIME TO HSLP ENCOURAGE A WORTHLESS PIECE OF CRAPTHAT I AM NOW. THANKS AGAIN IT REALLY MEANS A LOT

[@pozmarciv]

Thank you for the video, what are your thoughts on the regular Maverick? And why does the ZT elite have more horsepower than the Maverick?

[@kgmowers]

@@pozmarciv the zt has a much lighter grade engine. The maverick waaay better grade of an engine

[@pozmarciv]

So that being said, what do you think about the Maverick?( Not the HD ) thank you

[@kgmowers]

@@pozmarciv maverick is our best selling mower. By far the best bang for your buck in the industry. Suspension, 3200 transmissions, then Kawasaki fs engine Briggs cxi or kohler confidant like the $10k kubota, Stihl, or patriot in this video, and 3200s like the Proturn zx, the patriot 52 and the stihl in this video. Then 7 Guage deck, huge front forks, 10mph like all these other mower, all for around $7k. Yes definitely a heavy contender. The maverick causes a lot of people that were only gonna spend 5k or 6k drop $7k because of the tremendous value on the mower.

[@timcormier9528]

"In Him" 🧡🧡💯💯

[@musicgroopie1]

I grew up on a geared riding mower. Put it in gear and go and not unreliable issues like hydros have. Do you carry any geared mowers. I'm down the road in Mt.Pleasant. I'm also considering a 4035 tractor.

[@kgmowers]

No sorry I didnt even know you could get the old school gear mowers anymore. The 4035 is a beast of a tractor, its crazy to toss a round bale with that small of a tractor. I will do a new tractor video as soon as our 48hp and 55hp hit the lot. Last I heard just waiting on the new fancy seats to come in....

[@dougkubash8673]

Enjoyed the video! We all sin!!

[@bladengutz2042]

I got a buddy that bought a lightly used badboy it’s in the shop for the 2nd time 1000 transmission went out straight junk I bought a stihl and love it

[@kgmowers]

@@bladengutz2042 the transmissions are the same on a stihl mower as well. They both use hydrogears. I’ve seen more transmissions failing this year than I would like to admit with all brands.

[@bladengutz2042]

@@kgmowers I got a 3 year warranty and I think I have the zt5400 trannys I understand they are supposed to be pretty good

[@watersracing747]

Brother I needed this

[@Zeroturnlawncare]

Great video. Got a scag liberty love it

[@jcsgarage8052]

Love this type of video every year

[@kgmowers]

@@jcsgarage8052 I will try better :).

[@mudpuddle8805]

How come no Ferris in the review? I love my Ferris. Good engine, good suspension, tough as nails and never breaks. I was planning on upgrading to a diesel powered Ferris next, but thought I would look at what else is available.

[@kgmowers]

@@mudpuddle8805 if you’ll look closely you will notice the Ferris. It is white though 🤔

[@mudpuddle8805]

@@kgmowers Thanks for the response! Great review. Which white mower are you referring to? I have quickly reviewed the vid and the only rig that is I see that is like a ferris is the Stihl...

[@kgmowers]

@@mudpuddle8805 yes sir. If you’ll look closely you will see it’s a stihl. I don’t know exactly, but I think stihl bought Ferris and they are building the stihl line exactly like the Ferris (like big dog and hustler). Ferris doesn’t have a market around me, they kinda priced theirself out for most of the farmers in our area. There are quite a few other mowers that offer suspension for a much lower price point, that edge just doesn’t justify the huge price separation. What is cool is you can find some really good values on 2023 Stihls as the initial launch wasn’t what they expected and they have machines still out in the market. You can find some bargains. The 500 series in the video is a $10k to $12k mower, and you can grab one here for $8500 to $9500. I ended up with 6 leftover.

[@BrandonM24-kn3wj]

Which mower cuts the best in the morning with a heavy dew on ?

[@kgmowers]

There are still alot of factors, what size deck, blades, etc. believe it our not i had the best luck with a 44" deck gravely on a compact pro it was a beast. The Dixon Black Bear was also as amazing.... If i had to pick a normal mower I would lean on the scag 52 velocity deck. On the 61" I think the VX4 hustler is a little better... I mowed many yards in pouring down rain on my 2007 Bad Boy Lightning 52"... I did see clumping, but nothing like I did on Exmark, or Grasshopper back then...

[@corypiette9421]

No hate to any other brand but grasshopper the best

[@kgmowers]

@@corypiette9421 we really do see less issues with them and even ones 30 years old are still kicking

[@christiannorris7673]

I have a 2017 toro titan 2000hd. What's your honest opinion on them? And what would be a step up upgrade?

[@kgmowers]

@@christiannorris7673 you have a 3100 machine. Anything with bigger transmissions will be an upgrade. 3200’s will feel like a whole different machine to you. How many acres are you mowing?

[@christiannorris7673]

@kgmowers I mow about 3 acres. But not consistently depending on if we get rain.

[@kgmowers]

@@christiannorris7673 ok I would highly recommend a 3200 or bigger. The bigger you get the happier you’ll be over the years :).

[@RodSurber]

Thank you for your message in God !

[@Jjason601]

I’ll get grasshopper

[@kgmowers]

@@Jjason601 congrats you can’t go wrong with the brown. I have one crew they buy the 335b. Like clockwork between 2500 and 2800 hours the engine will give up. We rebuild it for him if we can or replace the engine, and 2500 hours later he retires the machine and scraps it out. Over the years he has tried other models of grasshoppers, gravely, bad boy, spartan, even a few other brands. He gave up and said it’s 335 from now on.

[@Jjason601]

@@kgmowers I runn exmark now I’m thinking about switching to John Deere or Ferris, only thing Ferris is like a hour in half from me I’m in Mississippi I’ll have to drive over to Louisiana if anything goes s wrong and John is ten minutes from me next to Walmart

[@kgmowers]

@@Jjason601 I would go with the dealer that seems like they care about you the most. A good dealer is worth it even if they are an hour away.

[@jonathancarver1547]

Subscribed!

[@kgmowers]

@@jonathancarver1547 thank you so much :)

[@patrickvillegas3885]

Do you sell versa trac ?

[@kgmowers]

@@patrickvillegas3885 we can. Pm me on Facebook Kevin l Kelley or our website kgmowers.com and let me know which one your wanting

[@dudepaintball02]

Scag is the best. Does not break down. Made in the USA. Quality materials. Best steel (made in America). Best wiring. Very comfortable. Do the maintenance and it will last a lifetime. O get a Kawasaki engine

[@morejelloplease]

Not true

[@morejelloplease]

When I say not true, I mean it's not 100% made in USA. All the bearings made in China and failed after 100 hours. I'm still bitter after having 4 new scags with issues. My hustler sdx has the worst cut so dealer bought it back. This day and age they will all have issues, so pick whatever color and engine/hydro combo you like lol.

[@shanepipkin4041]

ill stick with my deere it eats my ferris up

[@altondavis7109]

Is the Stihl as hard to start as their hand held equipment. LOL

[@kgmowers]

haha no.... the trick is to hear the blub blub sound. Most of the time one pull on choke, then take choke off and fire. It will come natural once you start hearing it. if you pull that rope one extra time after the blub blub sound you will foul the plug. Take plug out, burn it with lighter, then put it back she will fire off choke. Or just wait 30 minutes or so..... I have started selling Echo, and I noticed they arent as "choke touchy"

[@altondavis7109]

@@kgmowers We are buying a property with 5 acres to mow. I had almost made my mind up to go with Kubota Z422. Luckily I saw this video and another about the FS engine, now I'm between the Scag Patriot and Bad Boy rebel and leaning more to Bad Boy

[@kgmowers]

@@altondavis7109 the z700 used to be around 10k. It looks like it’s up to 12k to 13k now. Its my favorite kubota, but there are a ton of options under 10k from Other brands that are built the same or better.

[@kgmowers]

@@altondavis7109 it’s hard not to get the Rebel when looking at others in that price range. It’s a beast. It really compares to the tiger cat, but then you have a $3k higher price

[@JohnSchulte-cj4zg]

Where ar the honda engines

[@kgmowers]

@@JohnSchulte-cj4zg they pulled out of the mower world a few years ago. They may go back in when the tariffs lift in 2026

[@dbarr8261]

We were born dead because of Adam. Only by what Christ did. Paid for our sins that we were brought to life. Christ did what we could never do. He was the perfect sacrifice. Repent and believe the Gospel and you will be saved. God bless your channel.

[@BillHill-w7y]

That fastrak is not good on hills ….

[@kgmowers]

@@BillHill-w7y do you have the big bite tires and one of the newer models? They do really good for us. The grasshopper has a heavier butt and the bar treads do a hair better, but the new hustlers are slung low and wide and do really good on the over passes and stuff here.

[@BillHill-w7y]

@@kgmowers I called them no bite tires, but yes . All they did was spin and tear grass .

[@kgmowers]

@@BillHill-w7y add a little weight on the rear frame and then step up to a more aggressive tire it should help wonders for ya.

[@BillHill-w7y]

@@kgmowers sold it and got a tiger cat … much better . Just hated the$$$ part of it