Commissioning A New NEW JERSEY, Your Questions Answered!

[@briancisco1176]

That's so cool the sub will take along reminders of the battleship, teak and silver!

[@Zeno149]

Definitely, it's such great idea that the helmsman of the sub will be on Battleship New Jersey's teak decking

[@PalleRasmussen]

I was thinking the same thing. Now imagine The Big E having survived, to pass along mementos to the new ones.

[@michealfeeney8920]

@@PalleRasmussen Unless you are thinking of CV 6, I see no reason why NavHerCom would not have kept suitable artifacts from Cvn 65 to provide for whatever the hull number of her successor will be, As it seems to be clear that Enterprise is the American equivalent of Brittan's 'Roll of Honor', Ships that are perpetually kept in commission.

[@christianvalentin5344]

One nice thing I’ve noticed is that all three Virginia class SSNs that have Iowa class names have the silhouette of their predecessor battleship on the ship’s patch/crest. We’ll have to wait to see what the new Wisconsin will do, as it’s going to be a Boomer. (SSBN)

[@Yaivenov]

Maybe something showing it going from the Mark 23 "Katie" shells to the Trident D5s? Not the first nuclear armed USS Wisconsin after all. 😊

[@TheR00ndar]

And Arizona also has a silhouette of the Arizona memorial on her crest.

[@christianvalentin5344]

@@Yaivenov yep. Neither her or Missouri fired all of their Tomahawks in the 1991 Gulf War. 28 is what I’ve read. I wonder what the 4 that weren’t fired were. 🤔 ☢️ Edit: and I totally forgot about that Katies!

[@jasonmccaulley1663]

USS Washington SSN-787 did the same thing but she has BB-56's silhouette and the USS Washington ACR-11's silhouette on her crest.

[@christianvalentin5344]

@@jasonmccaulley1663 Washington BB-56. ANOTHER ship mothballed on the wrong coast! Was looking on Wikipedia at the Virginias and it appears Indiana did the same.

[@rogergoodman8665]

In this day and age, if the U.S. Navy started recommissioning the Iowa class battleships, I would arm myself to the teeth as quickly as possible because it would mean "the war isn't going well" and the do-do is about to hit the fan.

[@airplanenut89]

Or alternatively we got bored and decided to show the world that not only are we better at building new equipment, we are also better at re-purposing old equipment in possibly the flex of the century.

[@pizzaivlife]

@@airplanenut89 And really good at annoying people trying to troubleshoot the steam plant lol

[@rathael1428]

Not necessarily. If a war broke out with China it would most likely involve a lot of island hopping. This is one reason to reactivate a BB or two.

[@joshuahudson2170]

@@rathael1428 Iowa's on the west coast though.

[@Worldwar1944]

@@joshuahudson2170No, it’s in the east coast in New Jersey. The west coast is like California.

[@rvrschrs64]

WWII submariners would think the cabins in the "new" New Jersey are huge! When working for Kentucky State Government I photographed the silver service for the USS Kentucky, from the same pre WWI period. It's on display in the military history museum in Frankfort, along with Arron Burr's pistol, used to kill Alexander Hamilton in New Jersey.

[@tankman7711]

That Silver Service, for USS Kentucky is beautiful!. The museums in Frankfort have some magnificent articles, also the cemetery in Frankfort not only has Daniel Boones grave but the grave of LT Presley N. O'Bannon ,USMC (Deceased). LT O'Bannon was the first person to raise the U.S Flag over enemy soil ....a place called....Tripoli. He and his Horse Marines were from Marine Detachment, USS CONSTITUTION.

[@michaellemire7158]

Great use of the teak.

[@1zaj34]

In case the battleship got reactivated, the most fitting name would be "USS Curator". After all, she would be sailing around picking things to add to her ever growing collection of EFKATs (Entities Formerly Known As Targets).

[@henrycarlson7514]

Good 1 .

[@christopherpapelino889]

That, is metal as fuck, my good sir.

[@Destructificial]

Are there any plans for the submarine to come up the river and visit? A family portrait would be really cool!

[@Doctors_TARDIS]

Making "Battleship New Jersey" her proper name would make a lot more sense than "Old New Jersey"

[@charlesmaurer6214]

Old or Loud New Jersey would work because the sub is the silent service.

[@robertf3479]

"USS Battleship New Jersey" would be my first choice, "USS New Jersey II" might be a second choice, recognizing that BB-62 is the second ship to carry the name with the submarine continuing simply as "USS New Jersey" with no bloody "I," "II" or "III." (Tip of my salt stained dixiecup hat to Captain Scott's appearance in "Relics," ST-TNG.)

[@kilianortmann9979]

Official name: "Battleship New Jersey receives operating support from the New Jersey Department of state, a number of businesses and private individuals" /s

[@charlesmaurer6214]

@@robertf3479 Loved that episode but it did set up an error for Generations in that timeline. That comment about Kirk getting her out of the mothballs doesn't work if he thought Kirk died on the B (for that matter the B would be the old girl at that point and not old yet)

[@stevewindisch7400]

Yes that is by far the best answer. Painted at the stern, "BB New Jersey" works fine. There is still the unique ship designation numbers, so there really is no worries of confusion by the Postal Service or GSA / supplies. Lol I can imagine the look on the sub's Officer of the Day when a truck pulls up at the pier with a load of 5" shells ;) Even USS Cod couldn't use 5"/38 shells, their five inch 25 caliber deck gun uses a different shell (and of course modern subs don't have deck guns).

[@nigelterry9299]

Gods bless her and all who sail in her.

[@VKiera]

I know the first Battleship Texas (1895), was renamed the USS San Marcos to free up the name for BB-35. Sometimes, the older ship's name changes to allow the newer ship to get the name.

[@davidbriggs7365]

This is true. Between WWI and WW2, the Navy planned to build the Lexington Class Battle Cruisers, one of which was going to be Constitution, with the old sailing ship being renamed Old Constitution. Of the six planned Lexington Class Battle Cruisers, two, Lexington and Saratoga, were converted into Aircraft Carriers, and the rest were scrapped on the slipways.

[@davidty2006]

Think Town class Hms Belfast was renamed to Hms Belfast 1938 (launch year) to free up the name for a new city class frigate.

[@mountdeaneer]

Similarly, all of the Pennsylvania-class armored cruisers were originally named for states, then renamed later after cities to free the states' names for battleships. Ryan mentioned Maryland/Frederick. Other examples are West Virginia/Huntington, Pennsylvania/Pittsburgh, etc.

[@jllucci]

Strange choice seeing that in the time period San Marcos would have been a very tiny town.. 🤔 I could see San Antonio, Nacogdoches, Austin, Corpus Christi, or Houston.

[@talis84]

Not a question, but a suggestion for the teak wood... NJ state silhouette Christmas tree ordainments.

[@scrapperstacker8629]

Great video. I am glad the Navy’s newest Submarine will be getting pieces from the old New Jersey to honor her legacy.

[@rossreed9974]

Fantastic that Teak from the Black Dragon was given to the new Boat, wishing all who will be serving on her the very best!

[@jimcombs6760]

God Bless the USS NEW JERSEY and all who sail on/in her.

[@R.J._Lewis]

Seems like it would be very easy to tack a roman numeral 2 on the back of the name and just have the submarine become USS New Jersey II. But as Ryan Szimanski (curator for Battleship New Jersey Museum and Memorial) has said many times before, never let anything get in the way of tradition.

[@phillyphakename1255]

Never let progress stand in the way of tradition, but what's more traditional than Roman numerals?

[@rwboa22]

​@@phillyphakename1255 there was such a precedence that may have happened in 1963: Naval aviator and astronaut Alan Shepard wanted NASA to fly a seventh manned Mercury-Atlas mission (MA-10) with him at the controls, and unlike Gordon Cooper's flight, which was 22 orbits, Shepard, who was Cooper's backup, wanted to surpass that duration (minimum of 25 orbits). As Shepard's Mercury capsule on his 15-minute suborbital flight (Mercury-Redstone 3) back in 1961 was known as "Freedom 7", he named his Mercury capsule for the cancelled Mercury-Atlas mission "Freedom 7-II" (yes, Roman numerals were added). That spacecraft, the only unflown Mercury capsule configured for manned spaceflight, is on display at NASM's Udvar-Hazy Center in Virginia (where Shepard lived during Project Mercury, as with all of the Mercury Seven astronauts, before NASA moved the manned space program from Langley Research Center to Houston in 1963).

[@zoopercoolguy]

That would still be confusing in a situation where both vessels could be operating in the same theater. The prefix "old" was attached to the sailing ships because they weren't likely to sail in combat. Whereas the armored cruisers were renamed because they were still in active service.

[@ronniereams5334]

Tradition dictates that subs have names of fishes or other sea creatures. I wonder how Navy got so off track.

[@jllucci]

@@ronniereams5334 Appeaseing states paying for expensive ships

[@sportclay1]

You forgot to mention that this sub is the first fast attack submarine with a coed crew. My friends daughter is one of the female officers in the crew. A class of '21 USNA Grad. Go Sarah!!

[@kevmornj]

Go Sarah! Our daughter Rian is a JO on Virginia, SSN-774. New Jersey is the first SSN with coed enlisted crew. Women Officers have sailed for some time now. Rian reports that half of her Wardroom are women. We had tickets for the Commissioning, but sadly had to miss it. We watched the video and saw it was a great day. Fair Winds and Following Seas! Go Sarah! Go Rian!,

[@gerald5344]

Great use of the teak -- planks for the plank owners! I bought a hunk of this teak from the Museum Store a short while ago. My plan is to cut it into scales for making a few wooden-handled knives.

[@dennisfariello4852]

USS Battleship New Jersey!

[@Coyote5005]

Love the idea for the crew on the sub to be standing on the deck from the battleship.

[@hisaddle]

So cool to see active duty sailors aboard the ship.

[@craigabbott5937]

THANKS RYAN FOR ALL YOU DO 80S CREW MEMBER

[@davidbriggs7365]

Interesting piece of trivia that has yet to be mentioned on your channel..There have been three ships named New Jersey within the US Navy, of which TWO were both members of the Virginia Class! The original Battleships New Jersey (BB16) was ALSO a member of the Virginia Class.

[@alexandermarken7639]

This is so awesome, the Plank owners of SSN New Jersey will be so proud of the connection.

[@CrowDawg11]

Literally owning pieces of planks of the old New Jersey.

[@RealChrisB119]

I got a chance to see Pennsylvania's silver service up close at the state museum. Absolutely gorgeous!

[@Jams27]

Hope to see you there tomorrow Ryan and crew!

[@mshafer2006]

When they did build the new Constitution they should have referred to the "Old Constitution" as her nickname of just Old Ironsides instead. Would have been more fitting. Also if BB-62 was to be reactivated by the Navy then she should be called the "new New Jersey" as she would have to be renewed completely to be service and war ready. Making her a new Iowa Class battleship.

[@whatever8282828]

Could've named the new ship "New Ironsides"!

[@Orinslayer]

Old constitution sounds like it's a frail old lady 😂

[@zoopercoolguy]

@@whatever8282828 Ironically, there was a USS New Ironsides which was named in honor of USS Constitution. As Constitution was still in commission at the time, the newer ship was named after Constitution's nickname of Ironsides. Fitting, since New Ironsides was one of the first ironclads in the Navy. That tradition provides another precedent. If the battleship is reactivated, the submarine could be renamed USS Black Dragon.

[@paulrasmussen8953]

Or grand new jersey

[@henrycarlson7514]

So Wise , Thank You

[@johnpublic5169]

Yep, they did that with USS Arkansas BM-7, one of the last Monitors built. She was renamed Ozark and used as a sub tender as I recall.

[@mikesaporitojr3313]

On the commission date of the Sub New Jersey I say to the crew good luck fair seas and following winds to you and your ship and here’s to being the stealthyiest of the USS New Jersey ever

[@billwit7878]

They them will be a beautiful submarine

[@chi7891]

What parts of the battleship were the new submarine clue most interested in? Engineering? Guns? CIC?

[@s.porter8646]

We had the WWII cruiser Tucson silver on the 770, also CGN 36, we had BB CALI silver, decommed some went to the SSN

[@andywindes4968]

Do like they did with the first USS Texas when BB-35 was built and they renamed the first one USS San Marcos. Rename her for a New Jersey city or landmark or some other site.

[@Johndoe-jd]

You could rename her the USS Camden or USS Ryan Szimanski

[@TheConvertable50]

USS Hoboken

[@David-jl1pk]

Hello from Canada 🇨🇦

[@RalphReagan]

USS Patterson, of course.

[@willardpatterson706]

I second that! Mostly because it’s my last name lol.

[@AC_WILDCARD]

In the late 80s early 90s a few items from USS Oklahoma's silver set was on board the attack sub USS Oklahoma City, one particular item was the cigar box. I think some other items were as well. The silver set is in the care of the OHS and state of Oklahoma. When SSN 802 is commissioned I hope some of the silver set is brought onboard.

[@Russojap2]

Very interesting!

[@divarachelenvy]

thanks Ryan...

[@Philobiblion]

Brilliant, as usual. I like it.

[@wheelsee]

Wild that the small but important state of Maryland had 3 ships at once with Maryland related names

[@phillyphakename1255]

I have trouble thinking the Navy would call it by a city name. What would they even choose? USS Suburban NYC? USS Suburban Philadelphia?

[@johnsimko5461]

my brother dr. gene simko .Monmouth univ..and captain Joe azzolina brought the battleship back from Bremerton ..they would have been so proud to see another ship named after our great state..

[@anthonycordovano2438]

Rumor has it that Adm Rickover was asked what he thought about submarines not being named after fish. His response was that "fish don't vote". I personally feel that each submarine should possess a fish's name in addition to the city/state/politician name. This would certainly alleviate the issue of having two active ships with the same name. Ie. USS New Jersey / (insert fish name) SSN796. Ryan, you've said before that the Navy doesn't let progress get in the way of tradition, apparently in naming submarines they did. There are plenty of WWII submarines, that, to quote The History Guy, "Deserve to be Remembered"

[@adamwarren1104]

Here's a question that the Navy probably could answer fairly quickly, are there any crewmembers on SSN796 whose father's or Grandfathers served in BB62?? Great series Ryan, well done to all Adam UK

[@DadWil]

Seems simple enough to me to differentiate between the two USS New Jersey SSN-796 Battleship New Jersey BB-62

[@philb5593]

USS Black Dragon or USS Big J would be fitting alternatives

[@jmjones7897]

USS Old Jersey!

[@daleeasternbrat816]

For some reason I always think of the note from the Engineering Officer who last decommissioned Battleship New Jersey to the Future Engineering Officer: "Congratulations! This Ship Is Awesome!" In the Unlikely event that having Two ships named New Jersey becomes a thing and is an issue, the name USS Battleship New Jersey has a nice ring to it, think so? Thanks! The extraordinary care, attention to detail and skill of the people who care for this extraordinary historic artifact that is also a Working piece of machinery that has relevance to national defense. "Congratulations! This Ship Is Awesome!"

[@PalleRasmussen]

This is awesome. But imagine if The Big E was still around, passing mementos to the newer versions.

[@erbmiller]

I think if bb-62 gets reactivated and renamed they should use USS Camden as a nod to her current homeport.

[@major__kong]

You do know that Camden and Gary, IN, used to trade spots for murder capital of the US, don't you?

[@josephpadula2283]

Originally we had East Jersey and West Jersey before the revolution so we can go back to that !

[@danielmkubacki]

How cool!

[@alexandersprunt9448]

Two questions: 1. My understanding is that New Jersey was chosen over the other Iowas for reactivation during Vietnam because she was in the best material condition. Presumably this was also the reason she was the first to be reactivated in the 1980's. Recognizing that it is very unlikely, if the Navy chose to reactivate a battleship now, which one would be first? 2. During World War II, I don't believe the main battery had any part in defending the ship against air attack. What did the main battery crews do when the ship was under air attack? Did they man their usual stations, but just have to sit there?

[@danielleeming1027]

IIRC didn't the Yamato class battleships have AA shells

[@elijahwerner6130]

Aside from the silver, are there any surviving artifacts from the first New Jersey? Since we are coming into the third generation of New Jerseys that would make it the grandship New Jersey.

[@SomeRandomHuman717]

The first "museumy" display you see while on the main (green) tour route is the "3 New Jerseys" room, a compartment with history and artifacts from BB-16 as well as from of course BB-62 and SSN-796 (the new sub). I don't think there are any pieces of the ship BB-16 itself as artifacts, but there are items like unforms, pictures, invitations to social events held on BB-16, a replica of BB-16's ships bell, etc.

[@Chvywolf89]

In this specific case, if BB-62 were ever recommissioned, the Navy could always call BB-62 South Jersey, and SSN-796 North Jersey.

[@kingbrunswick7374]

if it would be called up the name USS Old Jersey has a nice sound to it

[@cavalierliberty6838]

I vote we call the sub NEW New Jersey.

[@mathewburgos5897]

When will the next Iowa class battleship go into dry dock? Are they all up to date on their maintenance?

[@alanstevens1296]

As someone who is familiar with the state -- South Jersey or North Jersey

[@dragonsystems5973]

The battleship isn't getting reactivated, period

[@sr7312]

Which Iowa class would be first up for reactivation?

[@MayaPosch]

To be fair, with the current crisis in Navy construction and failures like the litoral fighting ships, there is a non-zero chance that BB-62 and her sisters may see more action, all depending on whether this crisis can be resolved before geopolitics decide to go strongly sideways (again). At least BB-62 just had her drydocking done, so reactivating should be a snap :)

[@HongyaMa]

Traditions to carry on

[@stanislavkostarnov2157]

was there ever a submarine specifically tied to Battleship NJ?

[@alphax4785]

When you said 'surviving silver' does that mean some pieces have been lost or destroyed or do you think you have the full set accounted for but not 100% certainty and are just covering your bases?

[@MK0272]

I suspect that by the time the US was desperate enough to reactivate the Iowa class New Jersey, there would no longer BE a Virginia class New Jersey.

[@scottcooper4391]

You are talking at least a year (more likely MUCH longer) before the battleship could be made ready for recommissioning. Just getting training pipelines for the new crew would take 6 months to setup. Nevermind updating CIC / electronic warfare, building new 16 inch shells, 5inch / 38 shells, updating radars and communications.

[@sibhuskyguy]

Are they going to use the chalices for special ceremonies or events or they're just for show at this point?

[@SnowmanTF2]

Granted Arizona and Oklahoma are not set to be given to submarines till block V in a few years, and have not been in use since the BBs last using their names sunk in WW2.

[@thegardenofeatin5965]

Kind of feels icky naming a submarine the USS Arizona, no?

[@ericmkendall1]

Alpha New Jersey and Omega New Jersey.

[@winstonsmith2885]

Are there reprints available of the painting in the frame at 5:41 with BB-16, BB-62 and SSN-796? Because I want one.

[@canthony722]

“NEWer Jersey”!!

[@bigsarge2085]

Name her Wyoming, our home state!

[@niobraraterminalrailroad2709]

There is already a Wyoming I believe.

[@bigsarge2085]

@@niobraraterminalrailroad2709 SSBN 742. I was just making a plug for the 'ol home state amyway. 😄

[@rodpettet2819]

'The New Jersey' surely.

[@joshuahudson2170]

There were two Kersarges active at the same time in WWII.

[@RogerWKnight]

USS Washington, ACR-11, became USS Seattle when BB 47 was started. BB 47 was canceled and sunk as a gunnery target. Later on, BB 56 was built and won the Battle of Savo Island by sinking the IJN Kirishima and the IJN Ayanami. This confirms that a ship named after a state can be renamed after a city within that state when a new ship is given that state's name. The USS Washington, SSN-787 has silhouettes of BB 56 and ACR-11.

[@w.michaelfagan6127]

Where is ACR 11 on SSN 787’s patch? I se the outline of BB56, and the 1814 Ship of the Line USS Washington, but not ACR 11.

[@michalsoukup1021]

I think the best idea for reactivated Iowa class name, if that happen, would be USS Montana.

[@wesdog8975]

Somebody is a fan of "The Last Starfighter"

[@bfullwood48]

🗽🇺🇸🌎 USS NEW JERSEY .

[@eriksax9489]

Truly "plank owners"

[@charlesmaurer6214]

Normally I hear Keel Plate owners for builders and first crew but it works, just don't make them walk it.

[@robthebank11]

Was it that the sub commander said something along the lines of "more members of my crew have done legacy tours than i have crew members" since theres only around 130-140 crew members on the Virginia class subs?

[@bfullwood48]

🗽🇺🇸🌎 💙💙💙USS BB-62 BATTLESHIP NEW JERSEY . WE DO HAVE TWO BATTLESHIPS & OUR SUBMARINES NEW JERSEY .💙💙💙💙💙💙💙💙

[@bobbenson6825]

Are there any videos of the tours for the new sub's sailors? Sorry if I've missed anything, but I'd love to hear some of their reactions and maybe interactions with the old salts from the battleship who may have been there during the tours.

[@mikemyshka1472]

I have seen other ships have what your planning done for them too. The Religious Lay Leaders maybe able to use those for religious services on the new ship in accordance with US Navy regulations of their faiths, well done.

[@timbowden1680]

Ahh, the good 'ol USS Hoboken.

[@VenusUrsa]

The battleship would keep it's name and I'd call the sub U-Jersey

[@tsuaririndoku]

Would love to see subs having the name of a fish once again. Imagine USS Tuna

[@robertthornton1171]

What about USS Arizona SSN-803?

[@patrickreid3408]

Is the subs brass as well polished?

[@DJARTiQ]

In the case of a reactivation, just take the Star Trek route, New Jersey - A and New Jersey - B. When another one comes around, it can be the New Jersey - C, and then some cranky old engineer can come on and say the want to see the original bridge of the New Jersey, no bloody A, B, C, or D lol

[@dpenn89]

🎵I never wanted to change the world I'm just looking for a New New Jersey🎵

[@davelewandoski4292]

USS Black Dragon

[@skcstevenson]

Hey Ryan, did you all make name plates for the plankowners of the New New Jersey out of the teakwood?

[@kpolenz9772]

I'm going to bet -if the new Navy still plays it- that there are going to be several versions of Cribbage boards.

[@glorioustigereye]

Soon a new USS Iowa and USS Barb will begin construction. Pray for all the enemy trains out there, they are going to need it.

[@jimgates2518]

Not very likely Battleship New Jersey will be reactivated, I'd support having 2 New Jerseys in the fight.... almost everybody can tell the difference between submarines & battleships. :-)

[@ristoalanko9281]

The helmsman of the submarine standing on the deck teak of the old battleship... that's tradition in its finest! But the name "USS Old New Jersey" doesn't sound good.

[@SomeRandomHuman717]

It's a shame that the Navy couldn't have delayed Commissioning Week one more week once they determined that the original date of April 6, 2024 would have to be pushed back. That way the submarine's Commissioning events and the BB-62 Veteran's Reunion on-board ship, scheduled for September 18-21, 2024, could mesh.

[@mikesaporitojr3313]

Wait is there a USS Camden?

[@marcneef795]

I think the adjectives in "Old New Jersey" would cancel each other out and the ship would just be called "Jersey"

[@nitromyke]

Since the nuclear sub will never be a museum, the silver is just like a long term loan, and shoud get back when it will end it's service with the navy! And if BB62 is to be reactivated before that ; USS Black Dragon would be crazy cool !!