COMMON FAULTS IN PUTTING // Going through the common mistakes with Dr. Paul Hurrion

Today, Ian and Dr. Paul Hurrion, the creator of the Quintic Ball Roll System. Go through some of the most common mistakes they see people make with putting.
The Quintic Ball Roll Systems provide irreplaceable data on how the golf ball reacts after impact. Using high speed cameras and taking images, the information provided is invaluable when custom fitting a putter or practicing the putting stroke.
Dr. Paul Hurrion has used all this data to see some of the tendencies of the average golfer and today Ian learns quickly what exactly is working for and against average golfers tendencies.
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Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
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[@dancranflicks]

Last two putting videos have been great timing. I had a putter fitting using lvl 1 Quintic between the two uploads and have learned a lot about my putting stroke. My narrow stance + upright posture contributes to me hitting it low on the face. I also apply about 25-40 hook spin consistently, but the launch and forward spin numbers were great with my current gamer. Ended up not buying a new putter immediately, but know much more about my stroke to guide my future purchase.

[@JAG1651]

I qualified with the EGTF with Paul many moons ago, and he was always a very science based guy, but also always an excellent guy to listen to. He had a great calm manner. Top bloke!

[@JimAMorrison65]

One issue that commonly see, but have never heard anyone speak to and that is proper alignment. Almost exclusively i see everyone taking a stance where the feet are planted parallel to the line that is intended. In my opinion, it is necessary to have the shoulders parallel to the line intended. In very many cases depending on a persons phsique, the natural shoulder position is not parallel with feet positioning, in my case i have a left leg slightly shorter than my right leg causing a rotation through my core leading to very closed shoulders. Without correcting by opening my stance, i need to manipulate my body to get a neutral putting arc. In my case i found myself pulling my left knee back through the stroke to square the shoulders at impact. This was not an inconsequential effect, i would estimate it at about 10 degrees. I diagnosed this problem (and shown it to others to their amazement) by lining my feet on a tiled floor, closing my eyes and then rocking my shoulders naturally, and after a few rocks, then opening my eyes again to see the path that the putter was taking. I would be interested to see how many people find this issue, and how they will change feet position to get a square shoulder action through the ball. Bluebells are Blue😂

[@zacharymilos392]

Paul - "mimic these putting faults." Ian - *still holes every putt*

[@jacobmccain8082]

I struggled a lot with my putter the past few months. I've always been a solid putter so it was infuriating. Finally got the loft/lie checked and it had 6* of loft on it. Fixed that and boom back to putting well again.

[@saturdayshanks3753]

So it got bent weaker somehow? Or you got a new putter that was weaker lofted than your old one? I’m confused lol

[@jacobmccain8082]

Nah I've had it for about 3 years just a combo of time/leaning on it/throwing bag in trunk etc. I noticed I could see the toe side of face when I set up It felt square in my hands but I could still see it.

[@zap0311]

Gotta love Ian trying to putt incorrectly and still holing every one! 🔥

[@joeldunkley5759]

He is putting on a flat grid with the straightest putt imagible

[@Huntgolfride]

@@joeldunkley5759 Ive been fitted at this exact studio at TXG. It looks easy, but its not. You find out pretty quick how many variables will cause a miss.

[@joeldunkley5759]

@@Huntgolfride I do understand how many things can cause a player to miss I think the best feed back is the club face and delivery of it . Thats why I feel outside on a sloping green is better

[@Huntgolfride]

@@joeldunkley5759 better for what? I’m order to isolate the stroke you need to eliminate every variable you can and then it exposes the stroke. I was hitting what I felt like where perfect putts but had a massive hook spin issue and missing left like it had break! Then I had to deal with loft causing so many bounces post impact that it would miss. You really almost can’t make that putt sometimes if the loft, lie, face angle, arc and how they relate aren’t in a good place. It’s eye opening. Your right about club face in relation to the line is the best indicator of making the putt but that’s only short putts. As the ball travels farther away, if there are other issues they come into play. I would recommend a fitting on this system to everyone.

[@joeldunkley5759]

@@Huntgolfride I know everyone has a different putting stroke and techniques an I don't disagree that everyone one should get fit on some kind of system . For example with I find putting one if the easiest part of the game I avg 25 putts a round and I have only been fit once and it was outside , then I started having trouble about a year ago I switched hands and got better somehow but was never fit for my lefthanded putter

[@k2enneth2]

Beautiful analysis!

[@rp6163]

SO good! More Ian & Dr Paul. Limited Series !?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Thanks Ronnie!!! The channel needs you back!!

[@sgfiction4278]

I was fitted 7 years ago for a Scotty Cameron and it was great at the time for my stroke. Six months ago, I went to see a putting coach who adapted the putter to be longer (help with back pains and stance) and he reduced loft after a Capto analysis. Putting has improved overall and working on it more over the winter. I was guilty of overlooking putting in favour of long game. ShotScope data analysis proved just how wrong I was!

[@HarryLivestream]

Guys - thank you again for the video! This time a bit too "hard to understand tech talk". What if you consider making the same scenarios with posture faults, ball position faults, arc variations - what is causing what e.g.? Very interesting - thank you

[@cliffordbuttermore2883]

Question on the launch, how much of that can be attributed to static loft? I understand that dynamic loft is more important, but with almost every manufacturer offering 3.5° exclusively, it seems the static loft may be a major contributing factor into poor launch conditions?

[@ToddParker]

I use a 2021 odyssey two ball with stroke lab shaft. Is there a video to explain optimal set up and use of this specific putter? I did not get fitted, I don't have access to putter fitting locally. So I want to engineer putter fitting in reverse if that makes sense. The idea of matching my stroke to this putter...

[@ProjectHum]

i noticed i have a lot of toe strikes when putting, i use a mallet...any tips? is it all club path?

[@QuinticConsultancy]

Do you address the ball in the toe? If not, would suggest hands are dropping or weight going back into the heels during the stroke.

[@christopherfarrell3333]

You guys mention practicing with feed back, what are things/tools/ tech we can use to get feedback while practicing. Unfortunately, very few of us will ever have the chance to practice on Quintic.

[@rp6163]

Putting on a 3 foot ruler (see Gareth Raflewski putting ruler). Immediate feedback. Keep the ball on the ruler means face angle less than 0.5 degrees from perfection/square

[@QuinticConsultancy]

Mirrors, gates, ruler, spin balls.... not just the ball going in the hole or not.

[@thevisionaryelitist]

Great videos with the Doc. Ian, any recommendations for a top quality putter fitting using Quintic or Sam in the UK?

[@ianfrasergolf]

Jason @ Golf Principles

[@thevisionaryelitist]

@@ianfrasergolf cheers bud

[@Crusherbreen]

Just copy cam smith boys - if there is a current player with a doctorate it’s him…..🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

[@alrago1963]

I enjoy the science but I have to say the two of you going, "Hoo when you get 11..." "Oh yeah, 11. Phew.", without explaining what makes "11" bad is too much geekiness. It made me laugh how much you guys geek out over the tech.

[@joshlindquist834]

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