Compairing 5 sets of Jazz cymbals

Here you can see and hear me plaing 5 different sets of Jazz cymbals.
Each one consists of 2 Ride cymbals and a pair of hihats and has been put together with a certain "theme" in mind.
First therealways is a recording of the cymbals seperately, and then I´m playing them along to a part of the song "The Al Trane", written by John Riley and taken from his book "the art of Bop drumming".
The recording has been done with two overheads and one bassdrum microphone and I´ve not used any effects or other sound treatement to capture the sounds of the cymbals as naturally as possible. Also all the levels (including the play alongs´) are exaxtly the same for each set of cymbals. Therefore you can not only compair their sounds, but also their volume. I´ve used the same sticks all the time and tried to play with the same intensity.
Hope you like it...

[@agguth7]

Finally someone who can play cymbals demoing cymbals. You'd think it would be more common but apparently not. You made all of those cymbals sound good. Each one. That sound lab prototype was beautiful. Thanks for this.

[@Big_C_4205]

I hate the ones where they are like “oh I’m gonna play the bell more than anything” like dude I hate the bell

[@nram3930]

1."The Quiet Set": Playing alone - 0:14 With a backing track - 0:54 2."The Modern Ks": Playing alone - 3:15 With a backing Track - 4:07 3."The Old Ks": Playing alone - 6:30 With a backing track - 7:13 4."The Motian Set": Playing alone - 9:32 With a backing Track - 10:20 5."The Dark Set": Plating alone - 12:40 With a backing track - 13:21

[@nram3930]

The modern Ks were my personal favorite, I really dig the renaissance 22 ride, and that prototype has a great sort of trashy vibe - not to mention that I am a fan of dry dirty hats. The Hollow Block Stamp 20 ride on the Motian set was really nice as well. Great playing and feel as well.

[@renatopestana9526]

@@nram3930 That prototype actually sounds a lot like Bill Stewart's dry complex rides, love it

[@christophecoste8471]

this is insanely good ....the concept, your playing. thank you mate👍

[@alexulrich2393]

Really helpful comparison, and nice drumming! 🥁 Hard to pick my favorite, but I think the Quiet Set paired together really well.

[@powbobs]

Quiet set sounds great. Hard to find those hats though. I have the 22” K Con REN on the right. A 20” K Con medium thin low on the left. And 14” A Avedis hi hats. I love it. I sometimes use a 20” light flat ride on the left.

[@chinatype]

Beautiful playing 😊. I have the 20” left side ride such a great cymbal and compliments the other. Just about to take delivery of a 22” K Constantinople Renaissance

[@ben100976]

Really nice demo. Loves the pairing you’ve done. Great work. Thanks !

[@drumcoachnyc]

The 18" old Stamp sounds AMAZING!

[@christophevignals7867]

thank you, one of the best video I have seen on cymbals... very Nice research …the sound of the K ns is magnificent !

[@BrendrumJones]

Great video, lovely playing too, thanks for that

[@cookq]

Enjoyed the playing and the presentation. Great drummer w/ great time and chops. And these cymbal sets all sound good and provide a tonal palette from wet to dry. What everyone tunes in for is the vintage, unobtanium stuff. The third set - old k's with johan hats. Most of the rest of the stuff is in a store somewhere. But everybody's chasing THAT tone. You have two KILLER vintage cymbals but they are totally different. The 18 OS is darkly bright and crisp without a lot of wash, and the 22 NS with the rivets is holy grail jazz ride sound with good medium bright attack and just a hint of trash followed by the rivet wash reverb. They are both amazing, but I'm not sure the 18 complements the 22 like it would some other rides in your collection. Don't get me wrong, the 18 might be the best, most valuable cymbal in your collection. It probably is. Your Zildjian 20 hollow block stamp from set 4 and your 18 OS from set 3 would be interesting to swap between sets and compare. Some amazing cymbals throughout. Congrats mate

[@StefanVanroy-zq2tm]

Thx for expressing 'articulation'. Don.t ever given up you.re great as a univdrummer

[@yarpyarp85]

Dude awesome playing!!!

[@franks.8189]

Great idea ,great playing and great cymbals . Too bad I can't hear them very well because of the music volume

[@margovallen]

Just received a K Ride.. and a K Custom Left Side Ride. Both sound great.

[@metothemoon1227]

Just perfect 👏 Thanks for this. ;)

[@ariwibowom1984]

I have a 20" light cons, love the buttery sound. I have also a 19" sabian hh crash that have a similar but clearer tone compare to the cons.

[@Vromopoutanos01]

great playing!

[@DevaPermanaDrums]

Beautiful video... what Vater sticks are you using?

[@khm5369]

BeBop 550s

[@rogerferronato6876]

The 1° end 4° sets... ... wonderfol ...

[@DiamondLifer]

That 22’ K Con Renaissance is it. ❤️

[@m47t41]

beautiful

[@aristotle5698]

Would you recommend the K Dark medium as a good bebop ride? I like all of them but I’m favoring that one in particular, in this instance especially, scenarios can change so I’m wondering if it’ll fit all the scenarios

[@lofilukelukoala8121]

smoooooooooooooooooooooth

[@luiszuluaga6575]

Nice touch!

[@hawkrider88]

Wonderful...thanks!

[@elfurrohetero3518]

My favourit set was the old Ks and the new Ks

[@Limbic1000]

Great 👌 thank youuu

[@benslooking4coolstuff]

I love that K con 22" Renny ride. just add some 14" new beat hi hat

[@ikepapalua]

I sold my 22" Sound Creation Dark Ride in the early 90s. What an idiot

[@val_val_]

The 22" K Ns is just perfect. How heavy is it? Do you want to sell it?

[@13THEMAS]

That was awesome! May I ask what what is the snare here?

[@khm5369]

That´s a 14x6,5 Ludwig Hammered Bronze

[@patrickwoods2583]

The first group sounded the best, at least for those songs.

[@_jsse]

what type of drum set is that? love the setup

[@jazzdrumguy5044]

Oh, that old 22" K!

[@ahsyiam]

waiting for your upload!!

[@HardbatProductions]

I'm not usually a fan of A's, but that hollow block is sweet.

[@gustavoestevam5263]

Quiet set

[@brodmitkase]

Nice playing. What is the tune?

[@phenylmusic]

god damn k con light is so buttery i will nibble my fingers off

[@ahchzamariza8039]

What type of drums sticks do you have

[@ben_co8558]

Vater BeBop 550 hickory

[@ahchzamariza8039]

Vater BeBop 550 hickory

[@ben_co8558]

@@ahchzamariza8039 indeed

[@Twoholesofman]

I like the Modern Ks the best.

[@ddxdxdxdx]

did you know there is no cymbal emoji available, while there IS a trumpet emoji 🎺

[@QuickestQuickChop]

Which is bullshit

[@readwritejazz3483]

Awesome video! What's the weight on the 20" hollow block? Is it for sale?

[@מתתטאובה]

Which snare is this?

[@boomerguy9935]

The volume of the music overpowered the sound of the cymbals. It was hard for me to compare them.

[@simaojoseph]

Motian, like in Paul Motian?

[@daviewavie112]

Did you ever find out what motian means?

[@richandglorious]

@@daviewavie112 yep, paul motian

[@ddxdxdxdx]

did you know cymbals are called 'bekkens' in Dutch 🇳🇱

[@xbeast666]

Why does that 20k custom sounds like it sizzles, is it just me

[@khm5369]

Might be because the k custom left side ride comes with 3 factory installed rivets ;)

[@drumyogi9281]

Does Zildjian still make cymbals with rivets?

[@TheOssia]

@@khm5369 - What are the sizes of those 4 drums? (Heads & shell depth). And, what sticks are those? Thanks!

[@russellesimonetta9071]

Uhh I,ve always preferred A,s for even Jazz. The K types are very washy but A,s are shimmer.