Companions of The Cave - Yusuf | PART 1

[@asifsalu876]

Marshallah beautiful and amazing insight brother and some very interesting comments too the Quran is the truth no doubt keep up the good work may Allah swt make it easy for the students of knowledge and make us all people of the book

[@hotspring503]

Everybody translates "tevil" as "interpretation " . Even as a non arabic person , According to my reserach ," tevil" has nothing to do with "interpretation" it's the manifestation of a future event.( you kinda mentioned that) it was an eye-opener for me. Since then I'm checking everything I was told it's from Quran. Keep up the good work. More people need to work on this book untill it's truly unravelled.

[@negeto2460]

MashaAllah! This was mind blowing! The idea that Yusuf and Musa (pbut) were from the same era is incredible. I will have to rewatch this and relect further. May Allah bless you my brother.

[@solaqurana]

May Allah bless you brother. I am glad you enjoyed it! 'Ieesa in part 2

[@TrustingInTruth]

Salamun Alaykum brother. Super interesting connections between Yusuf, Musa, Harun, Maryam and Isa. Really makes one think about the true Quranic timeline vs the mainstream narrative. Cannot wait for the next video, God bless your efforts!

[@solaqurana]

Wa aleykum Salaamun, May God Bless you and guide us all. We are just scratching the surface :)

[@criticalthinker2760]

How can they be the same people. In Yousef’s story, he gets out of prison and becomes a king or high position and meets his father and his family at the end and tells him his dream from when he was a kid. The companions of the cave slept in the cave for hundreds of years

[@solaqurana]

Peace be upon you, I think the story we are generally told is based on assumptions from what we would call "Christian Apocrypha" like the "Seven Sleepers" story. For example, in Qur'an 18:25 it says that they REMAINED in their cave 300 years WHILE/AND they (the companions) increase 9 (extra individuals). So not only do we not see the Arabic root for sleeping (Nawm) anywhere in Chapter 18, but we also see that the 300 years doesn't even apply exclusively to the initial three companions, but a collective amount of time which is contributed partially by each of the 12 who spent time in The Kahf (3 + 9 = 12). That's why it says in Qur'an 18:22, not that none knows their number except a few, but rather none knows their WAITING PERIOD ('Iddat) except a few). Many features of Yusuf's story are given to us from The Bible, not The Qur'anic account: For example 12:4 doesn't show 11 stars in Yusuf's dream, it shows Eleven of a Kawkaban/Wandering Star (plural would be Kawaakib). Thus the evidence that he had eleven siblings is from the Bible not The Qur'an. -The Sun and The Moon are symbolically not Yusuf's parents, but rather Abawayhi (his two forefathers), meaning there was some way that Yusuf was able to meet his ancestors as a youth and they didn't age, (there are several possible explanations for this) we are told in The Qur'an that had Yunus remained in the Belly of The Hoot he would have remained there until a Day they are Dispatched. Ba'ath does not refer to awakening or resurrecting, but this word is used by Fir'aoun to gather his magicians to oppose Musa and Haroon. And Allah knows best.

[@erwinriadi3940]

Salam brother, There is an ayah that clearly mention that indeed they were *asleep* . The word used is not nawm but ruqud. See 36:52 for comparison. 🙏 Al-Kahf 18:18 وَتَحْسَبُهُمْ أَيْقَاظًا وَهُمْ رُقُودٌۚ وَنُقَلِّبُهُمْ ذَاتَ ٱلْيَمِينِ وَذَاتَ ٱلشِّمَالِۖ وَكَلْبُهُم بَٰسِطٌ ذِرَاعَيْهِ بِٱلْوَصِيدِۚ لَوِ ٱطَّلَعْتَ عَلَيْهِمْ لَوَلَّيْتَ مِنْهُمْ فِرَارًا وَلَمُلِئْتَ مِنْهُمْ رُعْبًا And you would think them awake, while they were *asleep* (رُقُودٌۚ). And We turned them to the right and to the left, while their dog stretched his forelegs at the entrance. If you had looked at them, you would have turned from them in flight and been filled by them with terror.

[@ammaralim1931]

You are doing great work! I have been looking for the truth myself and it’s really amazing that we are both following a similar approach and finding similar patterns- I’d love to collaborate! Keep it up brother.

[@solaqurana]

Thank you, brother, you can reach me on discord ibnnuh

[@sonabarnes6670]

Phew, subahanallah! This is deep! 😲 Need to listen to it again and do loads of research. I suspected that Yusuf had something to do with Pharaoh Akhenaten, the Pharaoh of the Exodus, Jesus, Isa, Yeshua, Yeshu, but listening to this clip leaves me flabbergasted. I am scared to think in case I get it right!!! You too seem hesitant to spit it out. I wonder if there are more people thinking along the same lines? 🤔 Moreover, Joseph's dream about sun, moon and star bowing to him sounds so much like today's perverted Abraham accords uniting on the unholy trinity of the Judeo-Christian-Islsmic (⭐☀️🌙 ) Zionist Messiah alliance, which Abraham clearly rejected as false deities!

[@ybce]

السلام عليكم I came across this video and was very interested since I'm currently memorizing surat Yusuf and also reading the tafseer around this Surah. I highly recommend you read a translated tafseer book for this chapter specifically that explains a lot of the assumptions you're making. I would also not try to make connections based on similar translated words as Arabic as we know is a very complex language and the same words can have different meanings. The word رب does not have be religious in nature for example as arabs can use رب العائلة to mean head of the family. The two men in prison with Yusuf are servants to the king, one of them was the ساقي (one who provides drink) and the other was the baker and they were both accused of poisoning the kings food so they were both sent to prison. Yusufs interpretation of their dreams confirmed that one of them poisoned the bread (the baker) and he would be killed for his actions so how can he survive and become one of the people of the cave. Another issue is using the fact that both Khidr and Yusuf were taught by god is not enough to make a connection that they are the same person. For example, in surat Yusuf verse 67 talking about Jacob, Yusuf's father: وَلَمَّا دَخَلُوا۟ مِنْ حَيْثُ أَمَرَهُمْ أَبُوهُم مَّا كَانَ يُغْنِى عَنْهُم مِّنَ ٱللَّهِ مِن شَىْءٍ إِلَّا حَاجَةً فِى نَفْسِ يَعْقُوبَ قَضَىٰهَا ۚ وَإِنَّهُۥ لَذُو عِلْمٍ لِّمَا عَلَّمْنَـٰهُ وَلَـٰكِنَّ أَكْثَرَ ٱلنَّاسِ لَا يَعْلَمُونَ Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran: Then when they entered as their father had instructed them, this did not help them against ˹the Will of˺ Allah whatsoever. It was just a desire in Jacob’s heart which he satisfied. He was truly blessed with ˹great˺ knowledge because of what We had taught him, but most people have no knowledge. So here it clearly states that Jacob was also given Knowledge by god as well. Another example is Musa عليه السلام in Al Qasas verse 14: Al-Qasas - Verse 14 وَلَمَّا بَلَغَ أَشُدَّهُۥ وَٱسْتَوَىٰٓ ءَاتَيْنَـٰهُ حُكْمًا وَعِلْمًا ۚ وَكَذَٰلِكَ نَجْزِى ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran: And when he reached full strength and maturity, We gave him wisdom and knowledge. This is how We reward the good-doers. So again another place in Quran where a prophet was given knowledge and wisdom and also this verse is very very similar to verse 22 in Surat Yusuf: وَلَمَّا بَلَغَ أَشُدَّهُۥٓ ءَاتَيْنَـٰهُ حُكْمًا وَعِلْمًا ۚ وَكَذَٰلِكَ نَجْزِى ٱلْمُحْسِنِينَ Dr. Mustafa Khattab, The Clear Quran: And when he reached maturity, We gave him wisdom and knowledge. This is how We reward the good-doers. So this idea of granting knowlege is not exclusive to Yusuf (and Khidr). Lastly, around the use of the word ملك (king) vs فرعون (Pharoah) in the time of Yusuf, it is widely accepted in tafseer that at the time of Yusuf, a people called The Hyksos were ruling Egypt and the head of those people was called King vs Pharoah. The Pharaohs and The Hyksos had a war and the Pharohs prevailed and ensalved بني اسرائيل because they had fought alongside the Hyksos against the Pharohs. Musa عليه السلام was then sent to فرعون to call him to Allah and free بني اسرائيل from enslavement. There's more I can write about here and I can come back and provide more links to sources I've used but these tafseer of the chapter are widely accepted at this time in the books of Tafseer. Of course it is our duty to do تدبر but at the same time we have to use the work of more knowledgeable people that have come before us and done a lot of the work and who are also more knowledgeable in the Arabic language. Thank you for your work and your channel and I hope this is seen as a discussion point vs an attack on you or your channel. جزاك الله خير

[@solaqurana]

Salaam, Thank you for sharing

[@GEO-SonOfman]

So Khidr is Yusuf? (Loving it all btw) Allah guide us and increase us in hidayah.

[@solaqurana]

As far as I can muster :)

[@zzeed]

One more thing, brother.. "nahnu naqussu alaika", three words aligned only twice in the Qur'an: 12:3 and 18:13. Also: (qaala, qailun-minhum) one speaker among them in 12:10 and 18:19 And the last but not least: this is the discourse (hadith), 18:6 (early in al-Kahf) and 12:111 (ending of chapter Yusuf)

[@solaqurana]

I appreciate that thank you brother

[@salihtaysi]

Salaamun 3alaykum. Same sort of ‘coincidences’ as when both the ‘she-camel’ from story of Salih and Zakariyya’s wife are the only two things to have “3aaqar” (عقر) done to them, you start asking how they are related

[@solaqurana]

Waleykum Salaamun, I'm glad you noticed that. Clearly whatever happened to the poor woman was devastating. Zekeriyya would never have assaulted his wife in that way. Which makes me wonder if she was in a previous marriage, on that she prayed to Allah to save her from? We will be setting the scene for this notion in Part 2

[@salihtaysi]

@@solaqurana you'll also love what stories the word 'ghulaam' (ghayn-lam-meem) connects. Love your research brother! May Allah keep blessing us with this deep truthful knowledge!

[@solaqurana]

@@salihtaysi I'm glad you looked at that brother - I will have to address the most likely intepretation of the Events of Yusuf Al-Khidhr's Story: The Safina (Ship), The Ghulaam (Lad), and The Jidaar (Wall). So far The Ghulaam has presented me with a possible reconciliation of the puzzle, the other two need further investigation.

[@usafkathrada7845]

Salaamun Alaikum. Good exposition but why do u use Khidr as the Quraan never uses that name

[@solaqurana]

Salaamun Aleykum, I want people to know who it is I am talking about.

[@two_stones]

What website are you using to analyze arabic texts?

[@solaqurana]

corpus.quran.com www.livingarabic.com www.wiktionary.org google translate www.almaany.com

[@two_stones]

@@solaqurana thank you.

[@usafkathrada7845]

Salaamun Alaikum. Where do you find the name of Khidr from as there is no mention of name

[@solaqurana]

Wa Aleykum Salaamun In the video I mention that Khidhr is name that has been added in there - its not mentioned in The Qur'an, but the person they call Khidhr is most likely Yusuf when you compare the vocabularly used in chapters 12 and 18 for the stories of Yusuf, Companions of The Kahf, and Musa and "Khidhr"

[@kaiquecrisostomo846]

Salaamun 'alaikum! This one was hard to grasp I have to rewatch it. What do you think about Mary as the sister of Haroon? People say it some sort of title to avoid the supposed anachronism, I dont know, also Mary, Jesus, etc, never really interact with Moses and his people. I think "when We sent to them two, they denied them both, so We replenished them with the third. And they said: Truly, We are ones who are sent to you." 36:14 is talking about Moses, Haroom and the person from amoung Pharoh's people. "A believing man from Pharaoh’s people, who was hiding his faith, argued, “Will you kill a man ˹only˺ for saying: ‘My Lord is Allah,’ while he has in fact come to you with clear proofs from your Lord? If he is a liar, it will be to his own loss. But if he is truthful, then you will be afflicted with some of what he is threatening you with. Surely Allah does not guide whoever is a transgressor, a total liar." 40:28

[@solaqurana]

Wa 'Aleykum Salaamun, Maryam is the Sister of Musa who presented him to Fir'aoun's Wife, hence the two most renowned believing women in The Qur'an actually met each other. Musa is the son of 'Imran (Amram), father of Maryam. Musa is the maternal uncle of 'Isa (not Yeshua) as is Haroon. Maryam lived in Pharaohnic times. 36:14 definitely does echo this idea of the believing man from Surah 40, the question is who is that man? We know he is a believer from Fir'aoun's household/bloodline. Allah knows best. Yeah if you compare these verses its the same event just from two different angles - he runs from one end of The Madina to warn Moses to flee, then he runs back to his people and tells them to follow the messengers 28:20 36:20 this companion I think is the crucified one because he is told Enter Paradise hence they eventually ended up killing him (a prophet they succeeded in killing) 28:34 - Musa says to send Haroon his brother as a support That man in 36:14 could very well be Al-'Azeez because it says 'Azzazna (We strengthened) - Allah knows best. We know that Yusuf was one of the people called Al-'Azeez as well in Surah 12.

[@manndesfriedens5248]

Salamun alaykum, I think the reason why Allah in the Quran doesnt provide an exact timeline and genealogy (like in the Bible) is that either there is no such or it is completely irrelevant. As you have stated the prophets and mentioned characters in the Quran are archetypes, meaning they resemble and highlight concepts and aspects of our human psyche. From this perspective it makes absolutely sense that they are all subsumed in one entity (cave/kahf). I know this kind of approach is much too far from the literal text for the most believers of the Quran but currently it is the understanding that makes most sense to me, for it is not limiting Allahs message to a few people in a small region of the world.

[@solaqurana]

Yes this story is not limited to any ordinary place in the world like Ephesus or Jordan, it's the most significant place in the worlds.

[@mt000mp]

idk if يُصَلَّبُ really mean crucifixion , the use of the translated word doesn't make sense when you read some of the verse that contains صلب in it, 7:124 لَأُقَطِّعَنَّ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُم مِّنْ خِلَٰفٍ ثُمَّ لَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ أَجْمَعِينَ I will surely [Qat3a] your [Yad] and your [Rijal] of [Khilaf]. Then I will surely [Salaba] you all." If it really talks about "crucifixion" then how do you crucify someone that has their Hands / Arms and Feet / Legs cut off? that doesn't make any sense. 20:71 قَالَ ءَامَنتُمْ لَهُۥ قَبْلَ أَنْ ءَاذَنَ لَكُمْ إِنَّهُۥ لَكَبِيرُكُمُ ٱلَّذِى عَلَّمَكُمُ ٱلسِّحْرَ فَلَأُقَطِّعَنَّ أَيْدِيَكُمْ وَأَرْجُلَكُم مِّنْ خِلَٰفٍ وَلَأُصَلِّبَنَّكُمْ فِى جُذُوعِ ٱلنَّخْلِ وَلَتَعْلَمُنَّ أَيُّنَآ أَشَدُّ عَذَابًا وَأَبْقَىٰ He said, "You [Aman] (to) him before lest [Adhana] to you. Indeed, he (is) your [Kabir], that taught you the [Sihr]. So surely I will [Qat3a] your [Yad] and your [Rijal] of [Khilaf], and surely I will [Salaba] you in [Jidzu3i] (of) [Nakhl] and surely you will know which of us (is) more [Shadda] (in) [Adhaab] and [Abqa]." same problem with before but now look at the فِى جُذُوعِ ٱلنَّخْلِ part, they translated فِى as "on" , but as you and I know it means "In" , it should've use the word على if it refers to an activity that occurs on the surface. "in" refers to being enclosed within something, while "on" refers to being situated on a surface touching something else. now, How do you crucify someone in THE Jidzu3i (trunk) of Nakhl (palm) with their Hands / Arms and Feet / Legs cut off? its not a crucifixion anymore, its looneytoons. the sentence doesn't make any sense if we read both the arabic and the translation. maybe I'm wrong on how I should be reading this. but I read it as it is in arabic and in the translation. salamun alaykum.

[@solaqurana]

Wa 'Aleykum Salaamun You may be right, the only thing is that this is what is claimed what they did to Jesus and hence the word is convenient for the time being. There is no mention of any amputation, it just says cutting as the hands of the women of Al-'Azeez' wife - no one would say they cut OFF their hands, but simply wounded them. We can apply the same wounding to the verses regarding this barbaric torture mechanism attributed to Jesus as well. Definitely the palm tree attribution is problematic as you pointed out - the real story has more depth to it

[@mt000mp]

@@solaqurana the word قَطَّعَ still has to do with embodying a shifting act. its an abrupt full swift of action. the act of amputating and severing is still true and valid. 12:31 فَلَمَّا سَمِعَتْ بِمَكْرِهِنَّ أَرْسَلَتْ إِلَيْهِنَّ وَأَعْتَدَتْ لَهُنَّ مُتَّكَـًٔا وَءَاتَتْ كُلَّ وَٰحِدَةٍ مِّنْهُنَّ سِكِّينًا وَقَالَتِ ٱخْرُجْ عَلَيْهِنَّ فَلَمَّا رَأَيْنَهُۥٓ أَكْبَرْنَهُۥ وَقَطَّعْنَ أَيْدِيَهُنَّ وَقُلْنَ حَٰشَ لِلَّهِ مَا هَٰذَا بَشَرًا إِنْ هَٰذَآ إِلَّا مَلَكٌ كَرِيمٌ So when {fem} heard of their [Makr], {fem} sent for them and prepared for them a [Taka'a] and gave each one of them a [sikkin] and said, "Come out before them." Then when they saw him they [Akbar] him, and [Qat3a] their [Yad], they said, "[Hhasha] Allah, not (is) this a [Bashar] not (is) this but an [Malak] [Karîm]." 12:50 وَقَالَ ٱلْمَلِكُ ٱئْتُونِى بِهِۦ فَلَمَّا جَآءَهُ ٱلرَّسُولُ قَالَ ٱرْجِعْ إِلَىٰ رَبِّكَ فَسْـَٔلْهُ مَا بَالُ ٱلنِّسْوَةِ ٱلَّٰتِى قَطَّعْنَ أَيْدِيَهُنَّ إِنَّ رَبِّى بِكَيْدِهِنَّ عَلِيمٌ And said the [Malik], "Bring to me him." But when came to him the [Rasul], he said, "Return to your lord, and ask him what case (of) the [naswat] who [Qat3a] their [Yad]. Indeed, my Lord of their plot (is) All-Knower." yusuf is not living in an anime where females are wounding their hands because of his features. most humans have shame and self control in front of strangers. maybe Yusuf became [Malik] and now faces threats and deception from others around him. and these people are Annulling from their acts. so قَطَّعَ is to Annul , Abate , Sever or Amputate. Allah knows best.

[@solaqurana]

@@mt000mp I appreciate the reply - I was only saying that the women didn't amputate their hands - that is harder to believe than some crazy people wounding themselves with knives. We have a history as a species with self-mutilation - for worship of false deities like Ba'al - and even today there are countless examples of wounding limbs like the Shi'a sect around Muharram (tatbir).

[@solaqurana]

@@mt000mp kzbin.info/www/bejne/eICcYqqNhZmBp8ksi=mvMbmzYqKX8f3DTF this video explains it in english subtitles

[@mt000mp]

@@solaqurana these stupid shia practices are done voluntarily, but in this case [in 12:31], no one ever reacts with 'excitement' after **accidentally** cutting ones hand whilst seeing a [Malak]. maybe you could argue that the pain receptors in her brain are soo slow that she 'forgot' to react in pain. but somehow she's fast enough to react with awe and excitement. lol

[@usafkathrada7845]

Al ajal Minas shaytaan. Yes I apologize for that I acted in haste and commented before listening to your whole discourse. I do accept your hypothesis based on other verses which link up what you are trying to imply as when Al Ilah took the covenant from the prophets they were to assist one another and Al Ilah tells us that Muhummed was also present when all took the covenant. Then we read that those that fight in the cause of Al Ilah are not dead but alive and we can perceive it not. So yes prophets help one another. How we don't know as yet. 'Iesa never completed his mission as requested of him. Did he come and assist Muhummed to complete it as Musa did to reveal the true message of the Torah. Await your conclusions in these discussions inshaAl Ilah

[@kamolegamberdiev7793]

This is a big mistake. In Quran Allah calls The King who ruled over the country at the time of Prophet Yusuf alayhissalom. At the time of Prophet Musa alayhissalom Allah calls the ruler The Firaun. There was a long time between the two prophets. People did not change what they call their ruler in a year or month.

[@solaqurana]

We make a lot of assumptions because we have been taught a story since children that plays no relevance in our world. Al-Malik is described in Yusuf's time as a RABB (Lord), and this "lord" is served wine? There has to be more to the story. What is the problem with the same person (Fir'aoun Al-Malik) having two different names or titles - we already see two different spellings of Ibraheem, the names Ahmad and Muhammad, etc. This is not to identify 100% as The Malik being Fir'aoun (it could be Fir'aoun's father), this is just a simple explanation with the information we have at the moment. Ideas shift with this line of work with more evidence - but narrowing down the Truth is a destructive process - you have leave all of your preconceived assumptions at the door. If you examine the main themes in the story of Prophet Daniel in the Bible you will see that this is a copy of the 70-year captivity of Bani Israil in Egypt by Fir'aoun but in Persia (70 years Babylonian captivity) and Daniel (who's got the gift of prophecy and locked in a dungeon like Yusuf) tells the King (Al-Malik) of Babylon the future of his dominion and the King ends up eating grass like a cow in the field (echoing the famine of Yusuf for Egypt in The Quran). We also see that Haman in an official in Babylon in the Bible, yet in the Quran he is clearly Firaoun's advisor in Egypt. Is Babylon Egypt? Haman wants to slaughter the Israelites in Babylon of The Bible just like Firaoun, Haman, Qaroon slaughter the sons of Bani Israil in The Quran. Is Misr in The Quran even Egypt? We have some serious work to do to understand what is going on. Fir'aoun is the one who orders Crucifixion and we have an attempted crucifixion of 'Isa, son of Maryam, sister of Musa - the current timelines we have are complete distortions of The Truth. If you watch the video, you will find that there is a lot of confidence to suggest Yusuf is "Khidhr" and his companions of the Prison are among the companions of The Cave, who met Musa in the flesh.

[@kamolegamberdiev7793]

@@solaqurana Brother, even if what you are saying is true, what does it have to do with the hidaya? We have Allah's clear and easy to comprehend ayats in the Quran to be followed for hidaya. Why dive into these issues?

[@solaqurana]

@@kamolegamberdiev7793 How can you have hidaya without knowledge? We need to be of those of certainty not assumptions. Allah's speech is definitive, not random, not poetry, every word is profound and all-encompassing, intentional, complete. Your understanding must reflect these facts. This is not a book of prayers and middle eastern history exclusively.

[@kamolegamberdiev7793]

@@solaqurana What does knowing Yusuf alauhissalom to be the Knowladgable Companion of Musa alayhissalom give to me as a believer?