Company Invokes Maritime Law to Pay to Float Ship Stuck | NBC4 Washington

The Ever Forward has been stuck in the Chesapeake Bay for almost three weeks, and after two failed attempts to float the container ship, the U.S. Coast Guard announced a new plan. News4’s Mark Segraves reports the shipping company is invoking a maritime law to pay to float the ship.
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[@kxd2591]

Wait a minute. The driver missed the turn, hit the ditch, and now the passengers are responsible for part of the wrecker charge? Something in the law needs to change.

[@mrwonderful2142]

That new set of butt plugs is gonna cost you 🤣

[@tira2145]

It's not really a law, part of the shipping contract.

[@patmcbride9853]

Now everyone knows that Evergreen is the LAST shipper to hire.

[@sallyjane2746]

What crap. The shipping should pay that bill. They missed the turn

[@bradobbink6564]

Better have more C W to make the water deeper around the ocean.

[@BonMache123]

Customers should counter sue in a court of law. You made a huge error in judgment, but the customer is responsible. No way.

[@fgbtv3803]

maritime law baby! you can thank the 1500's for that!

[@tira2145]

The shipers signed a contract. Why shouldn't they enforce it?

[@kentershackle1329]

WHO is that YOU?. The Port Pilot ? The Master... the Cook?.🤣

[@michaelf.2449]

@@tira2145 yeah most people don't know the law is basically the opposite of any other civilized profession. If they fuck up it's your problem and if everything goes fine they get paid sounds like a great job to be in because nothing is ever your problem.

[@kenosabi]

Not how maritime law works which supercedes the kind of law your referencing.

[@billr1129]

Get someone else , ( the customer), to pay for their incompetence. We need to see Full disclosure on why how, etc.

[@tira2145]

Read the shipping contract.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

Evergreen has become the Swift Trucking of the waterways

[@richardbause2453]

Swift: Sure Wished I'd Finished Training.

[@tira2145]

Swift really isn't a bad company, just so many trucks. Always going to have bad publicity.

[@richardbause2453]

@@tira2145 😁😄😁😄🙃

[@Acewilder15]

Evergreen again? They are the ones that plugged up the Suez last year. Great company!

[@lelandmckeevertheadventure768]

They are the ones who got the ship stuck they need to pay the cost not the customers

[@13aearnhardt]

These shipping companies made 4 billion dollars in profit in just the first quarter of 2021 alone. Ocean rates quadrupled in less than 15 months. These companies have plenty of money to oay for that cargo ship to be free. The small business owners shouldn't have to share any of the expense at all who have product on that boat.

[@kenosabi]

Not how maritime law works buddy.

[@yupieatcrayons5331]

Wow… Thats just… Dirty. Their incompetence but its the customers fault? Insane

[@inmate666]

Must be good money to be made by running a ship to ground. What are the odds of having 2 of your ships run aground?

[@jamesweir2943]

right? in a year. somebody had to work at being that incompetent.

[@yupieatcrayons5331]

Agreed

[@5thribroarn304]

Yeah, that could be so easily either "written off" on an Insurance Company which in turn will just raise their insurance premiums for Consumers or by making their Customers pay. Where's the responsibility? Believe me, they've figured out how to abuse the Systems of the World and to have the People pay, Never themselves. One should have a Full Traceable Audit of Disaster Relief Tax Funds also in a Natural Disaster as that's been a huge Scam for decades as well. Think California.

[@ericwsmith7722]

If ships like this did not make money,,, there would not be any of them. 22,000 containers X what about $3000.usd,s per...66 million a trip ? ..maybe $100,000 in fuel a day, $25,000 in payroll pd. Not a bad busniess,,,,,, as long as the ship is moving!

[@chevy358ci]

Odd they are both owned by killary Clinton.

[@eddyhall9806]

Lock them up! Lock them ALL up!

[@terryembler9362]

Class action lawsuit against the shipping company for missing the turn and getting stuck

[@Arational]

MV Ever Stuck

[@ricksadler797]

I think shipping customers may start using a more competent service providers

[@tomthumb8346]

Countersue with a detention fee for delay in cargo. I doubt this will go far. This was the incompetence of the pilot and captain. The same captain who got stuck in the Suez Canal. Maybe his career should be over.

[@trainmaster0217]

So I have to be responsible for the person that didn't know how to steer the ship safely and run aground? What a bunch of BS. Does he get off "scott free"?

[@tira2145]

Yes. Isn't the union rule's great.

[@sreed7637]

Didn't thry just have problems with this same company last year in the suez canal?? People need to stop shipping on this co.psmy evergreen. They are incompetent....

[@stephenboroody3049]

Harbor Pilot was on board. It’s totally his fault for this vessel be outside the channel in shallow water. Pilots Association should be sued for the damages and pilot should be fired! The costs for the salvage is tremendous

[@rearspeaker6364]

Pilot was Yogi Bear and Boo Boo!!

[@allanc3655]

WOW...another person that does not know what they are talking about.

[@rocketraccoon1976]

The harbor pilot ran it aground?!? Daaaaaammm! Who is he, Mr. Magoo?

[@allanc3655]

@@rocketraccoon1976 Harbor Pilots have no control of the ship. They just tell the captain and or helmsman where to go.If the person does not hear or understand they will f**k up, and not be the pilot fault unless he tries to take the helm (never seen nor heard of one doing so) People also do not understand that a ship reacts diff in shallow water than it does off shore. And the ship was sitting high because it had no ballast water in it's tanks till it got offshore Stephen Boroody knows not what he is talking about. Was he there....did he know what the currents and wind were doing?

[@dennisfliegel7588]

So let me get this straight if I hire somebody and they screw up I'm responsible how does this make any sense It's Your Ship it's your captain it's your responsibility

[@josephjackman3252]

Maritime law never benefits anyone except the shipping companies. I think there’s still a limit if you get killed and it’s only like $10k

[@dennisfliegel7588]

@@josephjackman3252 wow they don't put much value on life do they

[@josephjackman3252]

@@dennisfliegel7588 these laws haven’t been changed since they were written pre Titanic

[@rootrot100]

Don’t they use river boat pilots to navigate through the Chesapeake?

[@enjoylife1176]

Yes, it had a vessel pilot onboard...

[@marklowe330]

Yes but the captain still has control and the final say in what's happening.

[@allanc3655]

Pilots just tell the helmsman where to go. They do not take control of the ship. If the helmsman does not understand what the pilot is telling him things like this will happen

[@chuck2200]

lol...the captain of the vessel fails, and the customers pay the price ? comedy

[@t.d.bowman9585]

Why should cargo owners pay for it. They didn't run the ship aground. So if the pizza delivery driver get into an accident on the way to your house, does that mean that the person getting the delivery has to pay for the tow truck and emergency crews? If Evergreen doesn't have the proper insurance to cover their lack of professionalism, then they should be shut down.

[@steveobrien4141]

A quick google ---when the Ever given ran aground in the suez canal , General average cost shippers 42.5% of their shipment value.

[@ShadowTiburon]

When a driver of an automobile has an accident and it is their fault ...they are held responsible. Does the same NOT apply here. Or is it still under investigation.?

[@jasonbabila6006]

Why do we the consumers have to pay, it’s the shipping company who should pay 100%, that’s two groundings of Evergreen container ships within 6 months of each other.

[@peterhewitt2252]

yep ....greedy...bigger ship more profit ? No ..too big for the captains !!!

[@5thribroarn304]

@@peterhewitt2252 These Super Cargo Container Ships actually were conceptualized to Run Regular Ships/their Crews and their Owners Out of Business. No Joke.

[@5thribroarn304]

@Jason, I believe their mishaps happened the same month of March, but 1 year apart. I think.

[@jasonbabila6006]

@@5thribroarn304 I lost track of time when the Ever Given got stuck in the Suez Canal.

[@5thribroarn304]

@@jasonbabila6006 I feel as though I've been in a time warp or twilight zone experience rather heavily for over a decade, probably going on 2 of them, lol. I do believe that time is flying by much faster than it used to.

[@OhioPalmTrees]

LMAO what do ya know nobody showed up to pick up their orders 🤣

[@michaelrains2268]

Shipping Chantals in a shallow bay for huge vessels are marked for a reason. Where was the captain, pilot , ships, helmsman!

[@rearspeaker6364]

Definity not on the bridge!!!

[@michaelmullins1290]

They need to get the folks from Suez canal to help get another ship loose. Can't remember how long that one took.

[@rearspeaker6364]

just leave it there!! it's out of the way and a eyesore to gibson island.

[@MR.73]

Took 6 days even though that ship was much bigger than this one And the Suiz canal authority has already offered to help

[@5thribroarn304]

Great Reporting!! Thanks!!

[@rickybuhl3176]

I'd argue that GA shouldn't cover the incompetence of those navigating the ship. This wasn't an accident or 'act of God' but incorrect operation of the vessel. If they let this slide then any company can use the cheapest and worst staff/incompetent captains and then just get the customers top pay for the clean-up.

[@harlandmcnall2579]

There must have been something they wanted to get off the ship before it hit the docks that was worth more than grounding the ship

[@tomlee7651]

Kinda B.S. they keep grounding their ships, everyone else has to pay for it.

[@ssg8663]

How does this work. They made the mistake. Shouldn't they be fully responsible instead of cargo customers?

[@charleswieand4445]

Looks to me like I use salvage rights to declare my new country

[@WASTEOFTIMESTUDIOS]

That's okay, there's Maersk, Mediterranean, CMA, Cosco, Hapag-Lloyd, ONE, Wan Hai, 3,056 ships among them, I'm sure loads from 200 could be scattered among that.

[@Davidrixmusic]

Sal!!!! You made the news! HA! Great job buddy!

[@KarasCyborg]

Wait a minute, host said captain "Missed a turn". Sounds like operator error to me, not shipper error. Shippers should't be penalized. Looks like Evergreen is just outfitting itself with some incompetent Captains. I think Musk should write a boat AI to float these ships. Can you add salt to the water to make it float, or some of those ballons to bring a sunk ship to the surface? How about offloading some of the cargo to make it lighter? Giant hot air ballons to provide some lift?

[@peanutbutter2597]

Makes no sense to me ?? Just as much labor to remove containers ??

[@mommakitty3870]

its been long enough..if they cant get it free on their (Evergreen) pocketbook...then we should be able to say..."its mine"

[@rearspeaker6364]

state of md. takes over!!

[@marklowe330]

I don't think if fair to charge the customer for your ineptness. Not like this is their first fuck up.

[@Lancaster7]

Before shipping investigate evergreen and any parent company and do not ship with them.

[@mtpocketswoodenickle2637]

Hubert Howe Bancroft wrote over a century ago warning us about the Chinese pirates.

[@Lswisdom77]

that's too funny, I can't believe he said that. They already paid for shipping, now you want them to pay cause you can't drive. How about you choose the RIGHT person for the job, for ONCE in your ... lives.

[@user-dr2pg8fk2i]

"We f&#ked up and our customers are going to pay"

[@kenosabi]

I don't know what yall aren't getting here but maritime law is very different from the kind of law you all seem to think will solve the problem. That's not how this works. It's not how any of this works.

[@robrommens660]

Call in the experts, like for the Ever Given in the Suez canal

[@glenntoon4407]

So the captain fucks up again , but now the customer has to pay for his mistakes, well this company is finished now. I'll put my containers on another vessel thanks

[@charleswieand4445]

Maybe any ship names that start with EVER need to send their captains back to boat rowing school

[@cherieboe37]

IT WAS RUN A GROUND ON PURPOSE...

[@jimmybritt9537]

If i run aground , got to call Seatow none of my passenger's have to pay one penny 😉👍👍🇺🇸

[@handyman8764]

The Ever Forward has been renamed the Never Forward.

[@jamesg2239]

Hmm, Evergreen.....same shipping company as the Suez incident. Possible pattern here?

[@steveobrien4141]

Nobody will ship with them again . It's not the customers fault that you use cheap crew---Blame the pilot if you wish, but the cheap captain is responsible.

[@johnmehaffey9953]

This outfit needs to lose it’s right to trade but make sure the ships are impounded before they try and hide behind a flag of convenience

[@vijayajitkumar1]

come on guys such a simple task and you could not get out . a simple jet of water underneath and pull with tugs on one side towards the depth

[@jimpokorny4598]

Bring another ship and transfer the cargo off then put it on the spare one.

[@jimsmith1946]

No No No let the shipping company pay for it

[@IamCaleum]

They aren't getting the Forward out till the highest tide between the 16th to 18th.

[@Lswisdom77]

the people who ordered these things are NOT responsible for YOUR MISTAKES, You very Smart a.. yt people

[@richardcranium5839]

bull crap. its in united states waters not international waters. that close to shore the state may have something to say about it too.

[@SomeDumUsrName]

Wow! That's one fk'd up law!

[@themusiclab2621]

Again? wtf

[@CocoaBeachLiving]

Evergreen can't be liking this 'publicity'.

[@paidinfullthelabel5698]

So they are destroy the environment when there ships get stuck and tell people they can’t get there stuck ships if it involves destroy the environment

[@krystiansieminski8060]

Haw so the people who have containers on that ship are responsible for someone making a mistake like missing the turn? the average cut law apply when GOD is at work- like bad weather, but missing a turn, the crew is responsible.....the shipping company pays. This is BS.TH

[@jeffpoteau4357]

They need another ship of the same size get a running start in the channel with rope attached to the stern and give it a pull.

[@MarloSoBalJr]

And break the hull to high heaven?... I know it's April Fool's Day but c'mon

[@jimkennedy2708]

Call Matts offroad recovery, might take both o/r rigs, but my money is on them!

[@richardbause2453]

As they say; size does matter. Sir Isaac Nutons law of physics. A boat 🚢 of about the same tonnage pulling with any other tugs that they can come up with. You don't send a 70 ton Wrecker to fish 🐟 a Smart car 🚗 out of a ditch.

[@Z3ai3d]

Wow so interested

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

Never Green

[@dboyette42]

Highway Robbery, because you can stay in your lane. Learn to Drive

[@BonMache123]

General Average. Hmmm

[@bigbob1699]

Remember that RORO car transporter? Slice and dice may be the way out .

[@MrAeronca100]

What you get with a captain and crew from the Third world

[@MCMUSICH]

How does this happen? The have radar and shit right?

[@rearspeaker6364]

partying in the dining room!!

[@brandonkibel8322]

Responsibility found onto the Harbor pilot and the captain of the ship Captain of the ship is ultimate responsible for all cargo Therefore there should not be any extra costs handed down to the customer This is not This is not a good practice The company should man up and pay their own get to get their stuff out The extra caution not be passed on to the customer who pleased to have their cargo s*** from point a to point B That is a just round noble unreparable is all practice

[@michaelhannan8305]

Why not use a large ship that is coming into Baltimore Port, to help tow the Ever Forward, back into the channel. Stern to stern, back towards Charm City.

[@allanc3655]

How are they going to tie up? And what is going to keep them from swinging into the shallows (and what about windage) Tugs have as much useful power as they do. and are more moveable, and can move in skinny water

[@tira2145]

I going to use my dodge ram to pull it out.

[@teresajansen8083]

Thats a real cheek if they who own the ship pass the buck . Its time to stop the building of these boats when this is the second time these oversize ships have caused massive problems . Boyckot these two ships .Who wil pay extra if its costs more than the contents of the container .🤮🤮🤢

[@flowrob6861]

means she's Screwed $$$$$$

[@michaelreszke3804]

Sounds like a smart politician wrote that law. Not. What if same happened on a cargo plain that crashes? Or truck?

[@Peorhum]

When are governments going to realize these big ships should never be made? They are a disaster waiting to happen.

[@tira2145]

Fine, just quit buying products from overseas. Problem solved.

[@Peorhum]

@@tira2145 or return to smaller more manageable sized ships.... what a super stupid comment on your part. Life isn't black and white, there is a middle ground.

[@tira2145]

@@Peorhum yeah because little ships never have problems. You must have gone to a government school.

[@tira2145]

@@Peorhum haven't you heard of the Edmund Fitzgerald?

[@Peorhum]

@@tira2145 Ships have been grounding and sinking since ships/boats were 1st made. That said these new Panama max sized ships have been having more problems with groundings at least so far compared to smaller ships, it is only a matter of time before one of these monsters sink. The idea is to learn from accidents and change designs or procedures to prevent them repeating. So you work for the ship owner or are you one of those libertarians that just hate government?

[@mondo_stunts27]

At least you had the expert talk on it but your news site sucks

[@danratsnapnames]

FYI everyone, EVERGREEN is a Taiwanese owned company. so there you go.

[@JMAC-rs6ey]

The United States coast guard has been in contact with me I am on standby. I AM MASTER ENGINEER AND SALVAGE EXPERT NICK SLOANE CAPE TOWN SOUTH AFRICA 🇿🇦

[@teresajansen8083]

Thats a real cheek if they who own the ship pass the buck . Its time to stop the building of these boats when this is the second time these oversize ships have caused massive problems . Boyckot these two ships .Who wil pay extra if its costs more than the contents of the container .🤮🤮🤢