Comparing $10,000 to $250 3D printers using Fiverr!

As a finale to my series on creating miniatures on Fiverr we are comparing 3D printed miniatures who are made on $10.000 3D Printers to my home printer Phrozen Sonic Mini that was $250 at purchase. Here's a 3D print Fiverr link: bit.ly/3dtay6b
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Painting miniatures for your warhammer & d&d games. Age of sigmar and warhammer 40k. Space Marines, Space Wolves, Stormcast Eternals, beastclaw raiders, ogor mawtribes, cities of sigmar, chaos space marines, painting scale models, miniature busts! How to paint NMM. How to paint warhammer, how to paint d&D figures.

[@3DPrintedTabletop]

Really great video, Emil! I think it's important to remember that these are masters for busts - and things like layer lines really matter here vs. a monster mini for my home D&D game, that I'm perfectly fine having some visible layer lines if it means it gets tabletop ready faster. Even then - we're getting pretty close, and with hand placed supports and orientation to minimize those kinds of layer lines, I'm super excited for the future. Looking forward to your experience with the Sonic 4K, too. Big hug man!

[@adog6495]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGPPgWCMeZarapo around 1:53 Sam use a product to get ride of the mold lines so this could be useful

[@ScarletwingRuri]

Phrozen sonic mini has 4k version now.... And its incredible cheap. As far as I printed miniature there is not obvious printing line at all.

[@JohnnyZenith]

I'm the only person in the world who doesn't paint the printed models. I prefer the plain grey.

[@CalaTec]

Just bought the Elegoo Saturn as my first printer, and I'm sure the results for what it costed are insane. I waited so long to have larger volume, high resolution 3D printers available. Never even considered 3D printers until now. Also very affordable. No need to pay for 10K 3D printers figures! :D

[@shamanfryd]

Like the detail on this and how hyped you yourself even are, you might want to consider cutting a deal with this guy. Like "I will buy you another one of these printers for you to use all you want as long as when I place an order with you, you prioritize having mine made on it". You could do a whole series on 3d printed models that you paint. Just crazy things you would never see being mass produced. Doing a series on that you would probably make your money back on the videos alone. Hell you could even sell them after you are done to make a couple bucks back.

[@Boodmaster21]

when your shirt has more printlines than the minis, you know that technology has really evolved

[@taxirobot7219]

Except for shirt making technology

[@Darkhorse77777]

Hahahajajajaj a

[@bunnyfreakz]

3D printer used cost $50k.

[@Simple_Drake]

Ay I got the same one, big up H&M

[@bidujador]

I have the same shirt

[@geronimo8159]

At first I thought the prints themselves were 10,000 $ and I was confused...

[@PowerScissor]

Ah yes...every video title on KZbin is purposely misleading these days.

[@phisit8813]

You're not the only one. [ Click Bait ]

[@SoWe1]

that's intentional, clickbait

[@FalguniDasShuvo]

And gets another dislike just because of this. No thanks for wasting my time!

[@ColoqueNombreAqui]

Clickbaiting, a classic

[@davidp886]

I've tinkered with a Anycubic Photon for a couple years now and I think if you adjusted your cheap printer to the lowest layer height, slightly higher cure time, and also used a gray or other really opaque resin you would get better results. It would take forever, but I don't think you're giving it the best chance it has.

[@FunbobbyJ]

I was going to say the same thing. The expensive printer prints are obviously amazing, but I think the top quality settings on Emil's printer might be closer to it than the ones in this video. It definitely would take a long time, but not as long as waiting for something that might just get lost in shipping, lol. A video comparing different printer settings would be interesting!

[@DimensionMachine]

@@FunbobbyJ Agreed. A photon on the thinnest layer thickness and with grey resin can definitely do better than that especially if some care is taken in choosing part orientation correctly. ((a $189 USD printer as of today!) Still not as good as the 10k printer, but as you said he may not have given his little printer the best chance it had to shine.

[@admiralbees1690]

I agree. In fact I think its the post processing that has really made the difference as opposed to the actual print quality. Still working on my post processing game, I can get amazing results but its very labour intensive.

[@nipunagunarathne4882]

more than layer lines it's about aliasing rings, but that's affected directly by resolution, so the Sonic Mini 4K running at 20-30u layer height should be able to match those pro grade printers res wise. (should also be noted that the old Sonic Mini has relatively low resolution at ~80um pixel size, while the Photon is 47um. The selling point of the old sonic mini over other MSLA printers in the same price bracket was print speed, not resolution) BUT one of the biggest factors which make a difference between those printers and these cheap MSLA printers is the forces involved in printing. On our MSLA printers like the photon, Mini 4K etc, there's quite a lot of force in the peel action, which can affect the printability of delicate stem-like features and leave lines at parts where the print transitions suddenly from small surface area to large, especially if the print has thin walls, and make it necessary to use a high support density which translates to more noticeable pockmarks. To avoid these artifacts, the pro grade printers use better peeling mechanisms, or employ designs which don't need peeling (top-down printers) So with good tuning and experience, you'll be able to match the quality of those printers with a mini 4k for just about all prints that don't need low peel forces, ie- you won't be able to tell the difference with minis, ie- there's no point in using those printers for masters for minis, 90% of the time, because their advantages come in elsewhere (like precision and material properties for engineering/medical parts)

[@zona_i3d]

Definitely agree

[@htennek1]

I'd expect a HELL of a lot better quality for something 40 times the price. _Especially_ when you consider that once you paint it those minute lines disappear.

[@tando6266]

Fun Fact: A $10,000 printer is still in the hobby category. Professional starts at 50k for the printer, with 100k being sort of the standard. As a fellow dad, I admire how you find the time for these things. Keep it going.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Its professional grade printer, its not about the price. There are industrial printers that cost A LOT more though, but they have a different purpose ;)

[@tando6266]

@@SquidmarMiniatures I think its perspective. If you have a $250 printer 10k looks professional grade, but if you have access to 500k printers a 10k printer is junk you try stuff that might break the printer in. In that respect we are both correct.

[@jaanikaapa6925]

@@tando6266 You're right. I used to work in the industry. While the high and highest end enthusiasr/hobby systems can deliver pro-level product, the real professional printer products are just insane. However, the human skill in supports, slicing and post processing is the key to professional level product.

[@UnvarnishedTarnished]

@@tando6266 Couldn't have said it better myself. I work in the dental implant industry and we use 3d printing for temp models for placement, we have some that are in the 30k range and it's night and day from my photon but we were looking at others in the 100k range that were insane and we're indeed night & day from the 30k one.

[@Schelome]

@@tando6266 I would make the argument that the 10k dollar machines are professional, but not industrial. It is the kind of thing (like Emil said) that a jeweller or someone else might have and use as a part of their work, but not what a company who's main thing is 3D printing would use.

[@mrfrupo]

You can def print just about just as good on a 250 anycubic photon. In your photos it looks like you aren't using any antialiasing and you could make the layer height much smaller. I can't see layer lines like that on anything that I print on my anycubic photon.

[@EricsHobbyWorkshop]

Why does your shirt have a picture of my parents fighting on it? 😂

[@Miscast]

lmao

[@plaidpvcpipe3792]

@@Miscast rofl

[@CeePhour]

:D

[@mynamo12]

Huh?

[@pheonixsmokey3773]

Am I dumb cus I don’t get it

[@scottlambert6305]

It's amazing how many people comment, then watch the video, then don't edit their comment! lol. Solid video man, always look forward to the content you produce.

[@22freedom33]

This is very informative, thanks for the work putting this together

[@WillReynolds88]

I would love to have seen how the phrozen sonic mini 4K compared since the resolution should be closer again. Its clear that there is a difference in quality between yours and the more expensive machines, but I don't think it will be long before low cost 3D printers are comparable to plastic minis!

[@freedom_aint_free]

All those very expensive printers do suffer greatly from a "diminishing return law", as they are 10x more expensive and definitely not 10x better.

[@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant]

I think that describes the "elite" top teir of EVERYTHING. I would be hard pressed to think of any area that did not apply...

[@beerenmusli8220]

Well, of course. They produce the best 3D prints possible, ergo they are the most expensive

[@heinz8233]

@@beerenmusli8220 He meant that they are desproportionately expensive for what they deliver, compared to cheaper choices. Which is true, but that applies to many many fields. When you work in anything industry related you notice it right away. Past a certain point a very small gain in precision costs thousands and thousands of dollars.

[@beerenmusli8220]

@@heinz8233 I am aware. How is that contradictory to what I said?

[@heinz8233]

@@beerenmusli8220 What you said is not contradictory, just not very relevant. The thing is not that they are the most expensive (which as you say is obvious since usually better=more expensive), but that they are *disproportionately* expensive.

[@xManzi]

That first print just has a wrong orientation... People just forget that it is made up of flat layers... Also, no data on layer hight and so on... But of course proffesional printer would be a lot better

[@sulecen]

Agreed I'd really like to know what layer height Squidmar is printing at on his Phrozen

[@L3ttuc3]

Yeah he could really come a lot closer even at home to the professional print. Just takes a bit of time. Thank God most people don't have the time, patience or confidence to sit and really figure out how to run printers or there would really be no non-industrial market for 3d printing services. The $400 resin printers come so frighteningly close to the $8k printers (though they are definitely worth the price) that it's just not funny. The quality gap is pretty small which is reassuring.

[@nordinvandenbulk6882]

I guess he printed at 0.05mm layer height. I print 28mm mini’s (from the biggest tabletop company) and i use 0.02 for hard edge models and sometimes 0.01 for mini’s. I use the anycubic photon and have 0 vissible layer lines!

[@L3ttuc3]

@@nordinvandenbulk6882 same story here. Oriented properly and at .02 I get no lines on the photon. It handles even really busy minis very well if you setup the print properly.

[@sulecen]

Same here, I usually print at .02 as well and layer lines are a non issue

[@BlackringIII]

Why does the necromancer look like jazza?😂

[@angrypug9841]

What is your layer height? I use .03mm on the mars. Which can go as small as .015mm and that's just the standard mars. Alot of these expensive printers can be dethroned with a cheaper one. Just need to be better about supports. And higher quality resins

[@chuck-n-debtaylor7553]

I’m even more excited to paint the Orc. /mini-me Orc!

[@bigh9320]

Your vids helped me a lot when I was starting out.

[@Yan0monkey]

That orc came out just WOW

[@BullyBait88]

I cannot wait for your models to show up, they are going to be so fun to paint

[@AFAndersen]

Something must be wrong with my eyes, because I see printing lines on everything, including your shirt!

[@lordshadow3822]

You have to film yourself painting them as I'm super excited to see it.

[@demonic2174]

I love that Ork print! Great vid as always.

[@israelmartinez4097]

Thats Crazy I have a photon and I dont have crazy lines like that. Might wanna dial that printer of yours in.

[@Presbiter]

@@GPOLICE if a resin printer starts getting worn out, a bunch of various issues might arise. But visible layer lines is not one of them for sure.

[@yashy2x]

"This one is huge! " 6:00 Not sure what he was referring too there were many huge things on screen🤣

[@MedicMatt6891]

Bro, insane I wish I had an extra 200-400 bucks to spend! Love the stuff squidmar!

[@Silvananthus]

I appreciated seeing this. Thanks for posting this!

[@onikuy]

Thanks to all your video my Avatar in a MMORPG is now a 1/6 Figurine.

[@J0hnnyTheKid]

Thanks for dropping the Knowledge.

[@rudevectors8018]

Just to point out, the advertised 5 micron is only for the Z axis, it’s 25 for XY.

[@leviathanu099]

thats not how resin printers work. just saying

[@MurderHoboRPG]

WOOOOWWW I love this video. I wish I had a 10k printer it would sure come in handy with my KS.

[@Miniocalypse]

Great video as always, was good to see the difference in machines.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Thx mate

[@JeffinTD]

Like most things, cost rises exponentially at tolerances decrease. It will be interesting to see what printers (home, and pro) look like in 5 or 10 years.

[@badluckbutterfly]

8:16 "i can't see printing post work" uh i can see a bunch of support nubs and pits on the shoulder blade

[@andrewpratt4247]

I would be furious if I payed those prices for some of these.

[@corelockout6293]

No kidding, those support nubs were all over the model. At first I thought, maybe he's not mentioning the support nubs because they should be on every print and were probably taken care of by the first guy. Then he goes and says, "I don't see ANY support nubs" and I just can't anymore.

[@stefan_HEX]

Without having seen the full video yet. I cant think of any printer beating the Solus. I hope I am right.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Its really a close call i must say, the Asiga is crazy good - i'm impressed by both.

[@adog6495]

@@SquidmarMiniatures kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGPPgWCMeZarapo hay this video may help with the mold lines around 1:53 he starts to talk about a product that should get ride of mold lines you may want to check it out

[@oscarreyes4511]

I get the same quality with my Phrozen Transform. It doesn't have to be a $7k or $10k printer

[@scaletownmodels]

Very interesting. Once you've been doing your own prints for awhile then this is the next question. What gains do I get from the higher quality machines when the quality from a cheap resin printer is already amazing. Especially when you compare them to your filament printer and realize how far this tech has come in such a short time. What the next 20 years will bring.

[@archemides1517]

higher quailty machines give you just that a machine that will be a workhorse it will rarely run into issues and can keep on chugging for days but for a lot of hobbyist myself included paying 2-5k for a machine that will offer very little difference in print quality is just not worth it.

[@everydaynerd934]

Geckopainter is an incredibly awesome person! I've actually talked to him way before I saw this video, so it took me a minute to wonder why that name sounded so familiar!

[@3DJapan]

4:42 What layer height did you print at? If I print at .01mm I can't see any layer lines.

[@ikarus007]

4:56 he got the printing lines as well but maybe he used some kind of smoothing (maybe acetone) that works pretty fine

[@ianhpete]

yeah, i saw printlines on nearly every mini. I dont see the point of buying such an expensive printer for minis when you can fix most of the problems the cheap one has quite easy.

[@Robstrap]

@@ianhpete Just buy a resin printer and you wont have any lines at all

[@yu-mingchang2256]

Please try sonic mini 4k, I just got one 2 weeks ago and it's phenomenal! Guess that you can get very close result with high quality resin.

[@TheTwizteddrake]

I just really enjoy printing, would love to print one of these for you see if I could match their quality

[@nimblegoat]

I'm predicting a $500 machine in 5 years will best these . Better optics , resolution , better software ( possibly someone will throw neural AI at it ) - better resin , better control of all parameters etc - You can buy a photo printer that will best for $500 than will beat older tech. Projectors , tracking telescopes , quadcopters . Saying that for throwing some minis on a table - the ones we are printing are fine - given the viewing distance and light source . however the top ones will print more textures , maybe even print real looking eyes with arteries and translucency - print epi-dermal layers - print hard and soft features etc - print internal working bone structures and ligaments- that will allow models to be reposed in a far more natural way

[@tehSlushie]

That necromancer looks awesome, hope it becomes available in the future :)

[@3DJapan]

3:05 Interested to see how this turned out since I also have the Sonic Mini and currently I have a Sonic Mini 4K in to review.

[@Austin1990]

I appreciate you sharing g all of this. $200 for a print on a $10,000 printer. You would need to buy 50 prints before you would have been better off buying the printer yourself, and that is excluding resin cost, which is not negligible. Very impressed. Quite economical.

[@CeresOutpost]

Cool video! I'd like to see you do this again with a 4K+ Mono resin printer. I have an Epax E10 coming in a couple of weeks. I intend to upgrade it to the 5K screen after I've used it at 4K for a while.

[@dashw]

just found your channel and it's really interesting before-200k gang

[@johnnybgoodeish]

I'd really love to see 3D printed miniatures of some of the characters in the great movie "Alita Battle Angel"! :)

[@dresheraton9276]

Yeah that would be epic, the models would be extremely detailed.

[@RedHotBagel]

Interesting to see the differences. Please do post the follow up on the Phrozen 4k! :) What might also be interesting is to give someone that is a home printing specialist like Greg (3d printing pro) a shot a producing the best possible results. No offense intended: But some of your prints looked a bit rough and I think there are better results to be had at home. Thanks Emil!

[@rustumlaattoe]

Yup i reckon a sequel video where other people that use cheaper printers had a go to the best of their ability and see who got the best results.

[@johnbiggscr]

What I would like to see is both the home printed and fiverr printed models painted up the exact same way to see what they look like.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Yeah that would be optimal, but also I can't spend 120h one a video haha😉

[@NightRunner417]

That $250 printer is really holding it's own for being so cheap. I probably need one. That Solus though, omg that thing is brutal. The detail is frickin amazing. Thanks for the video, always good to see what I wish I could do but what I *can* actually do if I want to throw the money at it. :-)

[@Holztransistor]

The resin makes a big difference. The industrial blend resin usually has a very low shrinkage (0.5% range). So the fit of the model parts will be very good. Details too. Try the new 4K resin from Phrozen, it's really higher quality resin.

[@MurderHoboRPG]

your minis look amazebawls.

[@XKNAR]

I NEEEEEEEED that Orc!!!

[@masonhales]

those printing lines look cool, like a finger print

[@LandofMert76]

Looking back, that orc turned out as the best design. Fantastic. Seems you get what you pay for for sure. they do look quite small as far as busts go. I"m used to 1/6th 1/7th scale

[@yu-ger-bloob-highway3521]

You could easily sand yours with very fine paper, a rotary tool etc to get your quality close to the expensive ones.I would say the quality is actually already decently comparable

[@DOCWHOK9]

Why didnt you try treating your prints with heat/vapoured smoothing? And TBH, Your prints were 9.5/10 anyways.

[@gary-sx1sb]

Add pigment to your resin. It helps stop light bleeding. Giving you much cleaner edges. Add pigment, spread on baking paper and cure. Hold up to light if still see through add more.

[@russellmaxwell755]

Now to do a follow up video with the new 4k printers that are coming out.

[@RetroToonsOfficial]

Your Content Are Awesome i Mean I like It

[@MurderHoboRPG]

your shirt was printed on an fdm printer. i can see the layerlines hahahahaaha ;) cheers man

[@MrGufalo]

Great content!

[@batyrenko]

It's inresteting to try to print the same models on Prusa i3 mk3s plus. I'm going to buy one later. I'll do the same test once I get it.

[@aidanmagill6769]

Has anybody in the entire history of KZbin actually clicked on a banner link? I'm watching this video because I chose to, why would I leap to another video just mere moments in to the one I intended to watch?

[@badfelix007]

"I waited 6 month" two mins in the video "if I had more time I could reprint it" XD

[@harout66]

Do you think using the same resin would be better way to compare them?

[@MrElliptific]

There is even much better than this. I saw recently, at a factory, a color printer. It basically reproduces smoothly an object with photo quality details in color! It just blew me away.

[@dooley9621]

My Bene 4 mono prints to his quality also, the 4k makes a difference in the fine details I reckon.

[@katier9725]

TBH you won't even see most of these details once the miniatures are printed, so a follow-up video of these miniatures cleaned up, greenstuffed to even out flaws, and painted to a high standard would be the real decision maker here.

[@NoHemlockForMe]

This video inspired me to print D&D figures on my FormLabs Form 2 using high temperature resin (what I have in it). High temp resin from FormLabs is VERY expensive, but it's a also a high resolution resin. Since the Form 2 is SLA, not DLP, the resolution is substantially higher, but also substantially slower. I believe that the results I produced by printing at 0.025mm layer height produced much better results than what I saw in this video. I have access to a Form 3L as well, and I'm tempted to try printing these on there as well since it's supposed to be much better than the Form 2. I didn't say all this to be competitive, it's more that, for what you paid, you can often buy a Form 2 used online these days for less than what you paid for those prints and you may want to consider doing so ... and I recommend using FormLabs Gray Pro resin which I think you'd love :) p.s. I have no connection to FormLabs

[@VoicelessScream]

Always good to see your videos and I really enjoy your Fiverr series. I must admit I'm a bit puzzled by the result of your own prints though. I just got a Phrozen Sonic Mini, same like yours, last week and have been printing since. Using Elegoo Water washable grey (white at first, what a terrible mistake) a notoriously challenging resin to work with that isn't know to produce particularly good prints and within a couple prints, I was able to dial in my settings to a point where I... don't see print lines of artifacts - at all. Point in case, I have to look under a (crappy) microscope to evaluate print quality using the Amerlab test model. Detail sharpness is not perfect but pretty close to and that's at 0,05. 0,03 further adds to the sharpness. To be honest, I consider those prints extremely close to GW levels and that's with 'bad' resin, the cheapest printer on the market and little to no skill :)

[@adog6495]

I remember a channel called node did a video making an alien gun from 3d printing and Sam used a thing to melt the surface of the print to smooth it and melt away the printing lines so you may what to check it out squid

[@SaitoGray]

It work only with ABS plastic, not with resin. Resin printer are precise enough, the print line he got is his fault, it's printed with too much layers high and wrong orientation.

[@adog6495]

@@SaitoGray thank you for the information

[@dragnardrake8633]

I'm likely to be buying one of those 250 resin printers I already have a filament one, but it doesn't do detail that I wanted for small things.

[@davidr1037]

Crushing the Spanish in Total War: Empire while watching your vid👍👍

[@preddes6522]

The 4k phrozen is 35um and I assume the one they have is 25um so there's still a little bit for LCD dlp printers to go but they're goddamn close.

[@bencoomer2000]

Have a 4k coming. That once I figure the thing out, prints will probably be closer to the pro stuff than the cheaper stuff (and honestly, even the cheaper stuff isn't bad) is really exciting.

[@luketfer]

@@bencoomer2000 The main thing being if you're just using them for tabletop miniatures, most people are going to be looking at them from several feet away. I doubt you'd notice layer lines once they were painted up and slapped down for playing D&D.

[@darkyhex]

13:42 little part of the hair is broken to the left of the expensive printer print, pretty sure he knows.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Broke in shipping :)

[@BlackringIII]

@@SquidmarMiniatures 😢

[@DollyOmegaX]

@@SquidmarMiniatures Yeah but for 10 grand it should have been packed so that there was no way it would break.

[@ciarfah]

@@DollyOmegaX it didn't cost 10 grand

[@zymetheuy]

Great to see the difference between the two type of printer, one thing is you can get a much better quality with your 250$ printer Emil, you just need to spend a bit more time figuring how to dial the setting :) i'm also really curious about the post-process of those guys with those expensive printer, i wonder how much step they have to do in cleaning for this kind of result.

[@BrotherExperimentus]

Emil, your videos are the best. Entertaining and informative. I have a question for you though. As you have 3D printers of your own, one of which appears to be an Elegoo Mars (Pro??) I was wondering if you have any opinion/review of such resin printers particularly the Elegoo Mars vs Anycubic Photon as my wife and I are looking into what would be the best one to start with. We have a (as yet to be used) PLA printer but want to get a resin printer as well. You were my first thought for a truthful opinion. Any help would be appreciated.

[@SuperBunshichi]

Did you ever try re-printing the figures with the Photon 4k mini? I would appreciate an updated comparison if you did.

[@SketchingGreyhound]

This is quite interesting from a technological standpoint... and now I need my own 3d printer... 😩 well done! 😤

[@markushavers2283]

I am actualy printing on a "MAKE3D" 3D printer that costs 29.000 € with a carbon infused nylon filament that comes around 250 € per 800 cm². And there is carbon fiber inlays between the layers, too.

[@chuckray5543]

I wanted to give you crap about being click bait-y, but then I saw the opening and this is info I actually need. I am looking i to buying prints and need to know this. lol

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

lol, its easy being angry before seeing the whole picture right ;)

[@chuckray5543]

@@SquidmarMiniatures Ok. Angry is a strong word. More like a friendly ribbing. :]

[@goaway1885]

Im pretty sure the expensive ones would still have some layers line post print and they just did the alcohol chamber thing to smooth it out.

[@martinlyhagen6166]

I looked at a $700,000 printer from Germany. I asked for the price and he told me they ranged from a VW Golf to a House.... :) Insanely detailed prints and made for the medical industri.

[@MikeTheGamer77]

get higher dpi printer. Also adjust your layer heights. You'll notice an immediate difference in your prints from before.

[@Ainar86]

Interesting. I've recently started buying prints from a local service as I wanted to get my hands on some of the Artisan Guild sculpts and was positively surprised by the quality. I thought they were using one of the cheaper printers and that maybe I could get one somewhere down the line if I want more minis but now I think they must have a real pro model.

[@MrJcTTK]

Nah just get a mars pro 2 and learn how to calibrate it properly and you will be golden. Its really not hard to get amazing prints without layer lines.

[@highrider9168]

Still amazes me that the idea of 3d printing was literally staring everyone in the face at every arcade with a claw machine.

[@phoenixamaranth]

3d printing has been around almost as long as any cnc technology. The difference and why the rise of it in popularity has been cheap materials like electronics.

[@highrider9168]

@@phoenixamaranth agreed.

[@CrovanBlaze]

Great stuff! Did you get Josh Brolin's likeness rights for that necromancer? 😂

[@djetronakanorte]

Great vid mate I've been looking into this myself as I'm not getting my 3d printer till April next year so been looking into a higher class of print as I want a few sculpts doing from file I have for the new marvel game like carnige and iorn spider etc so the Link will be very helpful mate :)

[@KeithApplegarth]

What do you do with all the miniatures you have painted? Also the problems with the Necromancer prints could probably be resolved with better supports and tuning the printer for the resin....

[@Adrunkopossem]

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[@bryal7811]

Not a single dwarf print! What a shame, they were the best out of all the concept art

[@4time2waste]

What do you mean when you say "improve your skills in 3D printing"? I have never 3D printed, so not sure what it involves. Is it improving the CAD, materials used, post printing touch ups or do you mean something completely different? Great video, thanks!

[@poetazzo80]

3d printer have a tons of setting and each one of them can potentially make a difference in the final result. It's not like pressing a single button ;)

[@DianosAbael]

Professional printers have different qualities but mostly a professional printer 😉 With adeguate knowledge and good resins you could match the same result on a home printer.. For diminishing returns laws you can easily guess..

[@fhuber7507]

You might be surprised by the results using the Ender 3 and CR10 series FDM printers. I get accused of using SLA, because I have found the settings to get really good results. Often better than the "make" by the STL designer when I print designs from Thingiverse.

[@sirseriously]

If the title wasn't so deceiving I would probably have subscribed.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

Ok

[@tsainamishobbies9946]

I like my mini 4k. It's super nice and crisp

[@emiel1976ep]

As you paint them all, can you then still see the difference between the expensive and the 250 dollar printer?

[@tawesssoabbox]

Yes, heck without going over the surface painting them can make the issue worse as the layer lines and newton rings becomes more pronounced. Now you could go over the surface with some polishing compound but that would also soften any sharp edges.

[@alwaysconfused7664]

What’s a good size to print.? I like those sizes you received

[@andreasdesigns]

I have wanted a 3D printer for a long time but seeing the printing lines make me wonder if it's worth it. Someone pointed out that for their gaming purposes for smaller minis the less expensive printers are fine. Also, someone mentioned the settings could be adjusted to help eliminate or lessen the printing lines. For those of us who are more interested in minis for our games, it would be nice to have a comparison of different printers.

[@SquidmarMiniatures]

The new epax and sonic mini 4k can be super smooth with anti aliasing. It does make it slightly less detailed but still insanely good