Comparing the Civic Type R with the Focus RS, WRX STI and Golf R!

[@jackbradford7283]

gonna have to change your name to civictyperfan now

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Name change is coming soon but it won't be that! haha

[@synchronicity333]

subaruwrxfan lmao

[@rad636]

subaruwrxfan mustanggtfan ?

[@ttv.snakez1x402]

Subarutypewrx5.0fan

[@ttv.snakez1x402]

Lmao it's funny cuz I been watching his vids for a year but just noticed I wasn't subscribed

[@cimmaranmanak1491]

I never was a Honda fan. But I purchased a 07 TL Type-S manual and it made me believe you don't need a RWD or AWD car to have a great handling sports feel. I can see why the Civic Type R may be the most engaging drivers car out of all of them. Especially being the lightest of them all with special Honda racing tech.

[@rad636]

Clicked so fast I broke my mouse

[@crish8365]

Here's a crazy idea for most people in the comments section... test drive them all before forming an opinion and bashing others' opinions and the cars.. great video, good to hear an opinion after driving all four.

[@TheRossdlf]

Cris H ya cause we're gunna go out and drive them all... fucking goof

[@markg7213]

TheRossdlf isn't that what people are suppose to do? Compare cars to see which one they prefer? If you're in the market for one of these cars, you'd be crazy not to test drive them, granted they let you. The only reason one wouldn't do so is if they have their mind set on one specific car :)

[@TheRossdlf]

dude no one's gunna drive them all before writing a comment "people in the comment section... test drive them all before forming an opinion" like anyone's gunna do that XD

[@UltimaRSfan]

Darek M if you want dealers to stop calling you just tell them that you lost your job and your going through a divorce. i had one dealer that wouldn't stop calling me after telling them i didn't have a job, so i told them i would buy their car if they got me a job. never heard from them since. ☺

[@TheRossdlf]

got dam the comment section is thick.

[@MXTT2001]

Man I'm gonna miss your current into of "heywassupeverybody, Subaru-erxmdmdkdkf-fan here". It's iconic!

[@MattMaranMotoring]

It won't change too much :)

[@johnss2k434]

Thanks for the honest comparison. The type r seems like a blast to drive, especially on the track. Too many people are so quick to call it a rice car. These are all boy racer cars, who cares. They are fun!

[@markg7213]

John's S2K I agree! People are quick to judge this car because it's a HONDA. If the RS looked ridiculous people would be saying it's because it's suppose to be aggressive and bold! The type R's styling is a little dramatic but I'd buy the car in a heartbeat. You can't go wrong with either of the other cars though

[@Londonbridge978]

Golf R hands down. Best interior, huge aftermarket support, AWD, a simple tune and few bolt on mods can achieve 400HP/400TQ and it doesn't look like spaceship.

[@rkalla]

thank you for having the Integrity to jump immediately to your conclusion for the viewers that only wanted it, and then at all the supporting information afterwards. In this day and age of everyone fighting for our attention via ads or games or movies it's so frustrating in these KZbin videos when it's obvious that someone's trying to drag you along for both the time viewed stat in KZbin as well as the adview money. Really appreciate you taking that more upfront tact

[@FreeUpDaHerb91]

I love how you just get to the point right away and don't drag on for 15 min before you tell us what your favourite car is.... subscribing because of your honesty.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thanks, I try not to put people through that BS on my channel. I appreciate your sub!

[@hmongsunglass8981]

I like the type R more too cause it's brand spanking new. Pretty sure if they all come out at the same it's a whole different conversation.

[@jasongorman1274]

I've haven't driven any of these, but I think the Type R would get my overall vote too. It seems to be the best all around daily driver. I am anxious to see the next gen WRX/STI though.

[@ViktorNig]

it's sad how the evo x is slowly getting forgotten...

[@Ranchy9876]

Viktor Step right ! I agree it should still be in the conversations id argue it's the best out of the 4

[@MattMaranMotoring]

WRX STI handles about as good as Evo X already, now Civic Type R does too, and they all don't have bare-bones interiors from 10 years ago like the Evo does. It's a shame, but it's just not competitive anymore unless you don't care about a decent interior at all.

[@drewh22]

The people who buy evo's don't give a fuck about interiors...

[@hunny27]

Mitsubishi should have made evo xi

[@stephencain3467]

idk ive driven both and i still say the evo handles better expecially in the steering department but the sti has a better shifter the evo interior really isnt that bad if you can get over all the cheap plastic everywhere

[@350z33hr]

I think he got it wrong on STI reliability. The advancement of engine tuning makes an engine reliable. A lot of people that fix up STI's that blow on them, are exceeding the potential of an engine's internal. My shit is reliable, tuned, on E85. Only problems I've had is clutch slippage (too much tq), and leaking radiator. That's regular upkeep for an '08 STI model

[@stevenmendez7447]

Really great video! Love how you've taken the time to do this comparison, which is not something a lot of other KZbinrs have done. Also love how you don't care what others say, which is how it should be. Keep up the great content & can't wait to find out what the new name will be.

[@sarar2109]

This is the video i've been waiting all my life for!

[@armadeadon]

After listening to your thorough reviews, selecting a vehicle is a no-brainer!

[@marcusgallagher1723]

I just bought the 2018 wrx and I love it. I say just buy what you like. You really can't go wrong with any of these.

[@TailsAndTurbos]

I had a 2011 STI and loved that car to death, it was my dream car. Sadly it came to a tragic end and I miss it everyday. That being said it was quite reliable and had few of mods on it. From after market N1 exhaust and catted DP, a 44mm Tial WG that vented to air, and a few other things here and there it lasted well into 90k+ miles. That being said... the EJ engine has gotten way to long in the tooth and I wish Subaru would finally bring the JDM engine to the states. If they did I would happily compare it to the Type R for which we ordered. Now, for the record, I am fan of Subaru, Honda, and Mitsubishi (in that order). The EvoX is now gone, and with Subaru lacking behind in many areas and their new STI looking more like a sedated sedan, with a small boot, an ok rear seat leg room (we do alot of trips with friends), and horrible gas mileage (seriously if your getting 24 mpg in 2017), the Type R just hit every check box. I am glad Honda is back in the game and I cant wait to see what comes out of Subaru in the future to combat it.

[@SavagexRaccoon]

man im so glad you made this vid im looking into getting one of these next year

[@cmosleytsx]

if you delete the spoiler your remove a performance aspect to the fact that the type r hunkers down in corners the wings is not just flashy but functional it provides that downforce need when entering and exiting corners

[@GETUPANDGO]

Even though I love Honda, I think Ford has a win with the RS

[@SloanZurnToto]

Matt, I couldn't have said it better myself. I owned an RS for 9 months and had to sell it because the ride quality was sooooo horrible. The RS beats the crap out of you every time you drive it, and what's the point of owning a car when you get no enjoyment from it? I test drove the Type R and was pleasantly surprised at how comfortable the ride quality was in comfort mode, but the car still felt sporty and really fun to drive. The Type R even in +R mode did not beat the crap out of you like the Focus RS did in normal mode. Plus the engines in the RS are blowing themselves up on a weekly basis. Plan on purchasing a 2019 Sonic Grey Type R in the new year when they go on sale in Canada.

[@cybercityoedo808]

Did you get it? How you like it? I recently got my 19 Championship White... I didn't sell my STI yet but the Type R is making me fall in love. Only reason I am still dailying my STI is that I want to keep my Type R looking nice with the miles low and away from all the craziness in the world.

[@dallasmellsop5488]

"a 15 year old engine that blows up the moment you modify it, isn't the most impressive thing" that cracked me up, idk why 😂

[@michaeldeadwyler4034]

maintenance price for type r will be cheaper than the rest.

[@superawsomeprankshow]

When he said civic type R is his favorite I could hear Obi One faintly is the distance "you were my brother subaruwrxfan! You were supposed to bring balance to the ricers not join them!"

[@cybercityoedo808]

😂😂😂😂

[@christianserrano7344]

Because I hate dealing with problems constantly with its reliability issues with my golf. Im leaning toward the type R, similar to subaruwrxfan

[@kez850]

I used to have an 08 Si, and that thing with its LSD and some snow tires was the best car I've ever driven in the snow. To be honest I'd prefer it over my jeep rubicon I have now. Unless I'm driving out in the wilderness of course. I'm guessing the new Type R will yield similar results!

[@f2991speed]

kez850 i have an '07 and I can verify that fact 👍🏼

[@ethan12313]

kez850 yep my 99' civic Hatch is the best car I've ever driven in the snow that wasn't AWD. like a subie. I live in Ottawa, Ontario so lots of snow several months a year.

[@cinnygames]

I have an '07 DX. While lacking the K20, it was an absolute breeze to handle in the major snow dump my city got last winter. I'd never driven in snow until this past winter.

[@thedragonreborn7444]

I drive an 07 Si all year and I think its acceptable in the snow with snow tires but not great. Maybe because my previous car was an awd Subaru. I also had an old Toyota Tercel that was great in the snow compared to the Si. Fyi, the way the LSD functions in the Si basically makes it useless during slippery conditions. The differential just acts like an open differential in the snow.

[@Bebopin-69]

That would change if you drove an STI in the snow, nothing beats that under 60000$

[@markb1511]

Why does everyone think the K20C1 motor is new, it's been around for 4 years now

[@cybercityoedo808]

It simply feels and performs newer for the following: direct injection, no lag, pulls hard in every gear from low rpm to redline... Makes the Civic capable of spinning the tires even in 3rd gear, they actually possibly underrated the power levels from the factory. I recently bought a 19 Type R and loving it, it is superior to my STI in everyway except for off the line and rain/snow traction.

[@techsavvy12]

I definitely agree with the Type R. I'm just skeptical about buying another Honda. I had a 2014 Honda Civic with a stick and it gave me problems in the 2 years I owned it. Not sure if I would buy another Honda again.

[@phijef89]

wrxfan ? You know you're pretty brutal about the Sti bro. It's a badass machine I can't believe you talk about it the way you do. wow

[@JohnSmith-nd9js]

phijef89 I agree. Not sure where he gets his info from, but I know alot of people around here who have modified their STi with no issues. Now the engine design is OLD and Subaru deserves a lashing for not having a successor by now. Interesting how people criticize the STi's engine, but all these cars with "newer" engines have pretty much the same performance as the STi with its 14 year old engine design.

[@AERoVALKYRiE]

I own a 2017 STI, of course the STI is my favorite. I really like the Civic Type-R look though.

[@staker17]

Golf R is the best overall package, hands down. More sophisticated then the rest.

[@JD0509]

Golf R would be the best choice. It is simple, luxurious, refined and good mileage,which I could use daily.

[@zorpio6469]

civic type R engines are literally bullet proof, mine has over 130k miles and i hurt it every single day for over 2 years now and it still drives like new

[@Tigerex966]

which one is the fastest on that famous german track? prices comparably equipped. mpg. 1/4 mile. 1/4 mile speed. ride quality. aftermarket support. seats. interior quality. resale. 0-60 (no computer controlled lauch here but the driver. top speed and the big two availability-real price and insurance cost.

[@07acanoia]

I'd love to see the RS vs a Type R around a track or a good b-road. I own a new MK3 RS and I can't praise the car enough. The handling characteristics of the Focus RS is very impressive. Get an RS Matt.

[@tommieboi707]

hey wrxfan. check out car and drivers review of the car. 0-60 in 4.9 sec. 1/4 mile in 13.5@108 mph!!!! 1.02 g on skidpad. the type r is truly amazing. they dont question the claimed 7:43 nur time with those types of stats. oh and braking from 70 in 143ft!!! thats super car league.

[@GuilleSanchez.answers]

Type-Rfan, it's Ok. Don't worry about what people would say, like when you said that you wouldn't like an STI as a daily driver. However, coming from a WRXfan from prior generations your transformation is magnificent. Soon you are going to be enjoying the Prius V, because it's big and quiet. It's called aging well and fast.

[@danielmexicanpride]

Thanks for saying which one you liked right away and not make us watch the whole video to see which one you like even though I still watched the whole video! 👌🏼

[@TheJarat]

golf r type r rs sti

[@colt45magnus]

I get why you put the STI in the mix, for the price point really... but I think a more fair comparison in the Subaru lineup would be the '15+ WRX. I know it may not come with as much HP/TQ off the shelf as the other guys, but the engine really is so good. It's more up to date and reliable than the old EJ's and it's plenty capable of keeping up with the rest of these guys.

[@thenumber1bobo]

Matt. You drove the RS probably before the seats broke in. Mine are endlessly comfortable now, and it only took my a couple days of driving to car to find the right seating position. I really think you needed more time to adjust it to your liking. It is possible to find.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Yeah that's possible. I only had the afternoon to drive it. Wish Ford would give me one as a press car but they haven't yet.

[@maltlickey]

I own a Focus RS, and while I certainly didn't buy the car for its interior, it's really not as tragic as everyone makes out.

[@poolplexer]

Says the guy who bought a Focus RS and regrets it!

[@Fitforacting]

Frank Mauri what are your thoughts on it now after owning it for a year or more?

[@deangillard5241]

I have a Civic Type R but I also have alot of respect for the Focus. They are a serious car and when you boil it down, they are only separated by a couple of degrees. The RS is a great car. Enjoy the ride!

[@deangillard5241]

@mike b My opinion too, but I'm biased toward Honda. Great engineering and reliability.

[@Cubanqbola]

The only problem is with type r there is no mods yet for the car so we dont know how the car is gonna handle under high boost and the dealers putting the price way up

[@aarms]

What about the egregious dealer markup and lack of availability of the type r, why wouldn't you mention that in between your ample praise of the new Honda?

[@dallasmellsop5488]

I always return to Matt Maran for a well understood, smart, well explained conclusion/ veiw of every car

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Thank you, I really appreciate that!

[@ZephyrCorsa]

Spoiler delete on the Type R!? That wing is actually functional and makes downforce, Honda didn't just add it for style.

[@Autowill]

Honda should have an option for a wing less Civic Type R. I think Gunmetal wheel color would be a good option as well.

[@TheChakita44]

I wouldn't be mad if they increased the HP in the STi (who would?) but I wish they still did a hatch. I have respect for all cars mentioned, I personally have a '17 STi and absolutely love the hell out of it (even though its a sedan lol). personal favorite subie 5-door '14 hawkeye!

[@RobMotive]

I have the Civic Hatch Sport (6-speed). I wonder how it compares??

[@WatsonDimanche]

My daily driver is a 2016 GTI and I love it.. probably will get the Golf R in a couple more years or an S4

[@staraang21]

I know it's not quite the same class but for a car with reasonable storage and similar price range why not consider a BMW 228i? It offers a similar 0-60 time and is RWD. Plus it's more luxurious and doesn't have all the crazy styling enhancements. I feel like a lot of these non-luxury cars have shot up in price that it doesn't make much sense to buy them anymore. I would love a Golf R given it's more subdued appearance but I just don't feel like spending $40k+ on a Golf.

[@InfoumusMOBB]

For me 1. Golf R 2. Type R 3. Sti 4. Rs P.s i own a 16 Sti.....lol

[@FreshlyBaked13]

My past few cars were a 07 fg2 si, a stage 2 widebody wrx hatch, and now a Golf R. I've yet to see a type r but as for the others mentioned in the video in my opinion no interior comes close to the refinement and overall feel of the Golf R. It was one of the main reasons I went for it at this time last year, especially with the Apple Carplay and really nice bolstered leather POWER seats. Having owned a couple of hondas, the overall quality just like with Subaru does not match a German car, its not even close in my opinion. Eventually the seats will wear, the plastics will scuff easy, and the cheap honda paint will chip like they all do because at the end of the day its just a honda. Obviously where it ranks supreme and as the video said what some people will only care about is the motor and handling, but for near 40k I need more than that. Plus every car in this comparison handles great. Having owned jap cars for over 10 years and having been in numerous loaded infinitys owned by my mom when I was a kid that cheaper quality and overall feel has been my experience with them all, and dont get me started with the rattles. The Golf R is on another level in this regard and as soon as you sit in one you will recognize that. I'm sure the type r feels similar, but I'll take the leather over bright red cloth personally. I laugh at people who try to mention the focus rs though, when I had a rental focus the dash and trim was nearly the exact same as in the Rs. People are paying over 40k for that? No thank you, and I know the golf r is like a gti but again its German quality so I really do feel as if I got my moneys worth instead of feeling like I'm driving a rental car. Anyways, having said that, while extremely quick the Golf R is a snoozefest to drive, I miss the drama of my turboback tomei exhaust on my wrx. But, unless I can get a Type R for msrp I think I may get another Golf R this time with dsg, flash it, and blow the doors off almost everything on the road. I would never buy a focus and I've pretty much given up on Subaru with their wrxs that look like Camry inspired boats, I want an updated widebody hatch with a new mod friendly motor.

[@pr0jectSkyneT]

I don't know how "reliable" the Honda Type R is when there have been reviewers that had engine issues on their tests. Check out the Carwow and Driveopolis review for example. Another KZbin reviewer (forgot the name) had issues with the hood shaking above 130mph.

[@petercho4939]

appreciate this review! All those who don't agree with any of his comments on the video, you should drive all 4 cars before you say this or that one sucks.

[@ahmadhadi1250]

My opinion is #1.golf r #2.focus rs #3. Type r #4. Wrx sti. Type r lacks awd which I think it needs

[@grantkahale8933]

SubaruWRXfan would you buy the civic type R to replace the Mustang?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

No, for the same money I have 435hp, rear wheel drive tail happy antics and a great V8 sound. Best choice for what I want.

[@2003lightning1]

Just out of curiosity, when did you last drive the RS? Might be a more fair comparison if you drove them back to back. Although the interior stuff hasn't changed. I'd really like to drive a type R. I'm sure it's a great car. I don't necessarily think any of these cars are "better" than the other. Each of them has features that make them unique from the others, and they are all good.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

I drove the RS about a year ago. The RS isn't bad, none of these cars are, in fact they're all pretty awesome, but in tough competition like this, nit picking is all that's left.

[@brandonhauser1009]

Well said subaruwrxfan some people like more of a stiff ride and some people like more of a comfort ride. Personally I like more of a stiff feel because it feels more sporty I think. If the type r was awd I think it would sell so easy but being fwd it would be harder. I would have to go my fav is focus Rs and to mod the rs would be a beast.

[@giovannifigueroa6307]

it be better if you give track times, drag times, and comparison in handling and features they offer. your view can be bias but statistics tell a lot about a car

[@647killa]

Good points, although I have to say, the Type R (IMHO) is the worst looking of the bunch. My pick would be a 3 door GTI 6 speed with the sports package. You can't beat VW/Audi products for cheap horsepower and those DSG boxes really open up to 80% of the buying market who want a stupid fast compact without a clutch. The STI isn't much of a looker, but the harsh ride is really unnecessary and the my brother has already experienced the 'ringland' failure (makes my E39 timing chain guides look less of a problem). The RS is amazing, and isn't too bad of a ride, also you don't have to have the hardcore Recaro seat option. The RS ticks most of the boxes for me, but the interior is something you have to get used to. My picks would be 1. Focus RS 2. Golf R (6MT), 3. STI and 4. Type R. All wonderful cars, but the Golf R is a monster when tuned within APR. reliability would be an issue with all of these cars at some point, honestly !

[@j.a.g.8689]

I would choose the Golf R, the Sti is amazing but everyone has one, The Type R is amazing but to flashy , and the focus's brakes tend to spontaneously combust.

[@OwenGTA]

Fuck yeah Golf R

[@khfjvc4632]

J.A.G. haha bullshit

[@j.a.g.8689]

no, go look on motor trends video, On there video the Focus's brakes caught on fire. Also it up their brakes ten to catch fire. there also are a few other reason why i wouldnt want it.

[@OwenGTA]

Here's a reason; it's a Ford.

[@jleg3ndary725]

J.A.G. funny you mention that. I own a modded 17 Civic Hatchback Sport and a RS came showing off and poof! Front brakes started flaming up 😂. I had no idea this was a known issue for the Focus RS.

[@BertShackleford]

Bottom line: If you want something with more class and sophistication then go with the Golf R. If you prefer high-strung (and gaudy-imho) get the Civic Type R. Want to stay domestic then Focus RS. The STI, well it's so outdated that I don't know why you'd want a current version. That one has me stumped. This is quite a perplexing conundrum, especially if you favor one manufacturer over another. Personally, I say 'None of the Above'. No self-respecting successful person will take you seriously if you drive any of these though. The Golf R is your best bet if you must choose. Side note - I have not driven any of these _current_ models so my opinion is merely subjective. Lastly, the majority of Golf R owners I see and meet out here are in their 40's. That says something right there.. Keep up the good work my friends.

[@srees304]

Just FYI on space in the Golf...I take my double bass with me in my Golf GTI. No sweat.

[@ZephyrCorsa]

Either way the Type R is the fastest on track or a canyon road. It's only slower than the others from a dig but from about a 30 roll it only loses to the Focus RS. The Type R Nürburgring time is 7:43 and the Focus RS did 8:06

[@stevecuahuizo792]

I've always been a Honda fan but the looks have changed very very much over the years. I own a GTI and plan on the getting the new Golf R. the golf r just feels more mature and the civic looks to high school days for me. Honda added to much rice to this civic type r . but we all have our own taste and get whatever floats your boat

[@INumba1Stunna]

This was a pretty good comparison. If I was buying one, I would not know what to get honestly. But the Golf R would be my last choice, it does seem like the boring one out of the bunch. Unless my main focus was straight line speed. VW tuning is crazy good. Some fast Golf R's out here. I think I'd choose between the Type R & STi. 3rd place) Focus RS, 4th) Golf R. The styling on both are exciting to me. Those Type R seats are looking perfect tho, looks tempting. The Subaru engines blowing up so often might make me not go that route. But the soundd is just heaven, I'd love to drive around with a Subaru rumble daily. I'd need to hear the Type R with some exhausts before I made that purchase. :) One again great Type R review, and nice comparison vid.

[@devildriveride6278]

why are we all of a sudden comparing a FWD car to other AWD cars? Does that help you downplay the R?

[@MrRailroader03]

Yeah my vote is still the Golf R and I'm not even a VW fan, but I just really like the overall package.

[@MrRailroader03]

See I think the rear of that Civic type R is so atrocious and cheap looking. Oh well, they'll make plenty of whatever our preference is :)

[@SonOfTamriel]

totally agree Chris, i'm old, so you wouldn't see me in anything but the R lol.

[@SonOfTamriel]

Golf R ^ :D

[@panamera53]

+Chris Jacks The Golf R makes big power gains on cheap mods too 😄😄😄😄

[@RodrinBird]

Finally, someone does a comparison with the competition. Great review!

[@andrewjackson7835]

For me 1. Type-R 2. STI 3. RS 4. R

[@mindzeye270]

Andrew Jackson I saw a pinto beat an sti. I'd say you can make most any car fast for the same price. #respect

[@michaelwagner7916]

After I get my 1 of 2700 sold in NA 2003 Acura CL Type-S 6 - speed touched up i will send you pictures and see if you want to review it.

[@joseeduardo4327]

he said a reason he liked it was for the type r's reliability. you can't say that on a 2017 model.

[@jerrybillings3039]

*How can one properly compare a FWD car, to three AWD cars? Especially if you're talking about a Golf R with a DSG..*

[@ChandlerSchroeder]

Golf R is the best bang for buck. Solid choice.

[@micahgunnell]

Type R is one of the few "Fail Wheel Drive" vehicles I would actually consider owning...Except...It's a little too garishly designed for my taste. Maybe if I was 10 years younger. The WRX/STI have just the right amount of immaturity for me, but I think I'll wait for that new engine and platform in a few years.

[@badger4361]

What torpedo's the Focus RS for me is Fords Recaro seats. They CRUSH my ribcage so I can't breathe. This is nothing to do with being fat as I have a low body fat percentage, I'm just stocky and there is no fat at the ribcage/midriff bolster area. (My hips and thighs are fine) With a jacket on I can't breathe properly in Ford Recaro seats. I bought an ST3 and had to take it back after 2 days, it was that bad. I drove a Megane RS CUP with Recaro seats which were fine weirdly and that's supposed to be more hardcore. I'd be interested to try the seats in the Type-R, as I love Hondas, if not I'd have a Megane RS with low milage for half the money of these. Honestly whoever designed the Focus Recaro seats needs to be done in the wrong'un by an enraged mountain gorilla, please make your bolsters adjustable.

[@ethanjohnson93]

For me: 1. Type R - fwd is so good you don't need awd and interior is arguably the best. 2. STI - for no reason honestly... the body is the worst style we've seen yet and the engine is old and the tech is old but the car is just badass. 3. Golf R - a lot of car packed into the smallest package with premium feel. 4. Focus RS - the interior is HORRIBLE, I hate the bulky plastic and cheap materials, looks just like a 2012 base fiesta interior... but the rest of the car is awesome.

[@Britman78]

Can you do this again once you drive the 2018 Golf R with the design refresh and interior upgrades?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

The interior upgrades will probably give it the best interior of the bunch but it'll still drive the same and that's really the main thing that isn't as exciting as the competitors.

[@suprriotturtlejr8453]

I've been waiting for this.

[@frieddayfriday]

sad the the CTR costs $59k here. but will still test drive one when it comes out. got my STi premium for $53k though, so yeah it sucks to buy cars here.

[@jhrk4279]

1. WRX (Fuck the STI) 2. Type R 3. Golf 4. RS

[@Greendile]

Are you doing the streetspeed717 shout out or not

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Possibly!

[@SandeepSingh-js1zt]

subaruwrxfan you should! channel's would grow working with a bunch of different youtubers!

[@jbdoingjbstuff]

hes a tool. and not nearly the same caliber of a car reviewer

[@csi2448]

Joshua Burkard I wouldn't even consider Streetspeed a car reviewer. His video are more along the lines of TJ Hunt's than Subaruwrxfan's.

[@calthomas2316]

Hey Matt, having driven all of them, how would you rank them in terms of straightline performance (once moving, not from a stop)?

[@MattMaranMotoring]

Focus RS, WRX STI, then Civic Type R tied with Golf R. Not based on numbers, just by how they felt.

[@Electricalwav]

new drinking game. Everytime he says "apple car play" take a shot.

[@phijef89]

let's put the same tires on all four cars and let's see which one wins around the track.

[@Nards_1997]

type R needs an AWD option, and the styling is way over the top. RS is very cool, but the interior sucks and is overpriced. WRX STI is perfect. VW Golf R is pretty quick but looks girly.

[@kimaniharris7922]

Nick they're supposed to be releasing one in the future.

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

Wasn't that just yesterday we asked you for this video? Damn you are fast.

[@raf8474]

People are charging up to 30k over MSRP for Type R. You have to go off of what you can actually get the car's for when you want to compare pricing.

[@MattMaranMotoring]

You can get these for 35k, just find a non-greedy dealer, there's plenty of them.

[@zacharycromlish7337]

For Autocross, I'd pick the STI. The chassis is literally unbeatable for autocross.

[@youhavethisnametoo]

are you aware there is a 15k to 20k markup on the civic type R?

[@blooddrunk1432]

Would like to see a race between GTI Mk7 stage 2 vs the new Type R .

[@gs98999]

C&D just released a ctr test: 0-60: 4.9s 1/4 mile: 13.5@108 Fastest 5-60mph Trap is much higher than any of these other cars!

[@mfmf100]

Can't go wrong. I find it frustrating that the euro R is still better than ours, wish VW would cut that out. Good review.

[@krocialblack]

The Volkswagon fanboyism is strong here...

[@Otaner142]

For me 1) STI 2) the rest ....

[@SIRICKO]

LMFAO

[@jimtech362]

I will pick the sti if they refresh the engine. 22mpg avg for a 4 cylinder sounds stupid in 2017.

[@BroMan360Bro]

Golf R looks like a rental car

[@mindzeye270]

Bob Belcher there all cheesey looking. The only reason people like them is because they are fast as hell factory. But you could buy a car that looks better an throw all that money on suspention forged pistons, cams, supercharger and looks and build a better car.

[@coopsnz1]

In Australia focus rs ' wrx sti , type r are same price 50.990 aud